http://www.slashgear.com/novatel-ex...-verizon-4g-approval-next-stop-xoom-19153125/
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it would be nice if motorola used this modem card for the xoom as they had promised us a free 4G upgrade in the future(2013?).
I wonder when are 3G xoom owners finally gonna get fed up and file some class action suit against motorola for promising false accusations of 4G upgrades to everyone. they never said when they would do the free upgrades so technically it could be in the year 2020
Also, with verizon having the Thunderbolt phone and Droid Charge phone running 4G on their LTE network so far, why can't motorola use a similar 4G chip as those phones?
Given the amount of time 3G xoom owners have waited very patiently for our 4G upgrade and sdcard upgrade, I wish motorola would keep us more informed on what's going on
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it would be nice if motorola used this modem card for the xoom as they had promised us a free 4G upgrade in the future(2013?).
I wonder when are 3G xoom owners finally gonna get fed up and file some class action suit against motorola for promising false accusations of 4G upgrades to everyone. they never said when they would do the free upgrades so technically it could be in the year 2020
Also, with verizon having the Thunderbolt phone and Droid Charge phone running 4G on their LTE network so far, why can't motorola use a similar 4G chip as those phones?
Given the amount of time 3G xoom owners have waited very patiently for our 4G upgrade and sdcard upgrade, I wish motorola would keep us more informed on what's going on
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"Verizon had promised a free 4G update for the XOOM when it launched the 3G version of the slate earlier in the year. At the time, though, no 4G miniPCI modems certified for the LTE network were available"
Motorola has nothing to do with network.
Nope, the news I'm waiting for is that I can send my Xoom in for the upgrade. I'd rather wait longer for a good, tested chip then a rushed version of something else. This is a one-time upgrade I want them to get right.
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"Verizon had promised a free 4G update for the XOOM when it launched the 3G version of the slate earlier in the year. At the time, though, no 4G miniPCI modems certified for the LTE network were available"
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My question again, why can't they not use a similar card like that being used on the verizon thunderbolt or the droid charge? Is it that much different?
IT mean i would be able to use My USA xoom in Europa?
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One thing I'm worried about is the fact that the Bionic was reportedly delayed due to bad battery life relating to overheating.
Apparently the LTE card and Tegra 2 processor Didnt get along and were not playing nicely together.
In the case of the Bionic, the phone was reportedly scrapped until it can be retooled and redesigned to fix its issues.
In the case of the XOOM, who knows what they can/can't do or if the same Tegra 2/LTE problems exist but the delay we've already had isn't promising.
Considering that the XOOM is the only Tegra 2 Verizon device out there (the bionic was supposed to be the next) I don't think its a far stretch to say that the XOOM could be experiencing similar issues.
Thoughts?
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One thing I'm worried about is the facta that the Bionic was reportedly delayed due to bad battery life relating to overheating.
Apparently the LTE card and Tegra 2 processor Didnt get along and were not playing nicely together.
In the case of the Bionic, the phone was reportedly scrapped until it can be retooled and redesigned to fix its issues.
In the case of the XOOM, who knows what they can/can't do or if the same Tegra 2/LTE problems exist but the delay we've already had isn't promising.
Considering that the XOOM is the only Tegra 2 Verizon device out there (the bionic was supposed to be the next) I don't think its a far stretch to say that the XOOM could be experiencing similar issues.
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I don't think Ltd plays nice with anything. Used to own a thunderbolt. Speeds cool but did no good on a dead phone.
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gbenj said:
One thing I'm worried about is the fact that the Bionic was reportedly delayed due to bad battery life relating to overheating.
Apparently the LTE card and Tegra 2 processor Didnt get along and were not playing nicely together.
In the case of the Bionic, the phone was reportedly scrapped until it can be retooled and redesigned to fix its issues.
In the case of the XOOM, who knows what they can/can't do or if the same Tegra 2/LTE problems exist but the delay we've already had isn't promising.
Considering that the XOOM is the only Tegra 2 Verizon device out there (the bionic was supposed to be the next) I don't think its a far stretch to say that the XOOM could be experiencing similar issues.
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I thought the same thing when I heard the news about the Bionic. I'm still hoping this is an already resolved technical issue that's being fine tuned for imminent release. I'll be honest and say that I'm growing a bit impatient waiting for LTE and official SD Card support for this device. I know i'm an early adopter, but waiting months for promised functionality is not something I'm happy with right now, I travel weekly for my job and I could really use that 4G upgrade considering the poor connectivity at the area hotels.
I consider it a lesson learned and even though i'm mostly happy with my Xoom, it will be put up for sale by the summer while it still has value if Moto/VZW/Google doesn't deliver by then. I'll replace it with a wifi only tablet & a dedicated LTE modem, probably a more flexible config for my needs IMO.
This excerpt is particularly interesting...
"As well as LTE there’s quadband HSPA+..."
This could mean a AT&T / T-Mobile version might not be far behind? I already have my XOOM but wouldn't mind seeing the XOOM gain an even larger mindshare / foothold.
The furthest I'm willing to be patient with the update is if another tablet comes to Verizon with LTE.
After seeing some of the info about the Galaxy Tab 10.1 and some rumors that it'd be coming to Verizon, if that thing comes out with LTE before the XOOM gets upgraded, Verizon/MOTO would have some explaining to do.
Other than that scenario, I agree with the early adopter reasoning. I can't be too mad that its taking longer than expected, just a little disappointed.
Hmm i had the dell streak 7 on t-mobile 4g coverage area & the battery was dead in most cases in less than 3hrs even on wifi too..so i dont see the what the hold up is ..if t-mobile got it to work in that sorry excuse for a tablet (streak 7) then Verizon/motorola better step it up..it's bad to see other tablets coming out with working sd slots & some even 4g already & the xoom is still 2 steps behind !!!
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Hmm i had the dell streak 7 on t-mobile 4g coverage area & the battery was dead in most cases in less than 3hrs even on wifi too..so i dont see the what the hold up is ..if t-mobile got it to work in that sorry excuse for a tablet (streak 7) then Verizon/motorola better step it up..it's bad to see other tablets coming out with working sd slots & some even 4g already & the xoom is still 2 steps behind !!!
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T-Mobile's '4G' network runs on a 3rd generation network upgraded to '4G' speeds, it didn't require much in terms of hardware upgrades.
Verizon uses an entirely new spectrum and technology called LTE that is more of a 4G product.
Xoom Owners getting Fed up with Motorola
I guess some guy is taking Verizon to court in west LA over the Xoom and lack of LTE. Others on the Motorola customer support board are organizing to file complaints to the FTC about Verizon and Motorola.
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I guess some guy is taking Verizon to court in west LA over the Xoom and lack of LTE. Others on the Motorola customer support board are organizing to file complaints to the FTC about Verizon and Motorola.
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Link? I would like to get involved also... I am tired of the 4g promises, time for results.
My Xoom received the 4G upgrade last month. No 4G in this area, however, but the turnaround time for the upgrade was less than a week.
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My Xoom received the 4G upgrade last month. No 4G in this area, however, but the turnaround time for the upgrade was less than a week.
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Did you have to get a full wipe?
Got my 4g update as well and yes I got a full wipe, bone stock xoom back, good thing is I'm in Tampa and we have great 4g coverage, this thing hauls ass.
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How fast does the juice haul ass from the battery?
As fast as the hott air coming out of that liars mouth.
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As of 2 days ago i have never been so sure about wanting a new phone as i was the Droid X. Now there are rumors all over the internet that Verizon will launch its 4G network (aka LTE) on November 15th and have a couple of 4G devices on sale on black Friday. An on top of that the rumors are that they will sell the iphone in January on the 4G network. (not that ill choose the iphone over the Droid X).
I am just wondering, am I jumping the gun here with the Droid X? I am assuming whatever phone with launch with 4G is going to have to be kickass phones. I am also assuming that the Droid X will not be 4G compatible. I hate to pass up this beast and then its just rumors but for some reason i think there is some truth in these ones. Thoughts please
I would venture to guess that the Droid X will be 4G compatible...maybe?
LTE doesn't make that much of a difference to me. Take a look at 4G -- it just got switched on in a few more cities, bringing the number up to a paltry dozen or so (I think? Not quite sure). LTE might also be slow to roll out. Besides, it's a new technology, and it might eat battery like on the EVO.
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As of 2 days ago i have never been so sure about wanting a new phone as i was the Droid X. Now there are rumors all over the internet that Verizon will launch its 4G network (aka LTE) on November 15th and have a couple of 4G devices on sale on black Friday. An on top of that the rumors are that they will sell the iphone in January on the 4G network. (not that ill choose the iphone over the Droid X).
I am just wondering, am I jumping the gun here with the Droid X? I am assuming whatever phone with launch with 4G is going to have to be kickass phones. I am also assuming that the Droid X will not be 4G compatible. I hate to pass up this beast and then its just rumors but for some reason i think there is some truth in these ones. Thoughts please
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I am def rethinking... I don't know why though.... I mean 3g is pretty quick here for anything I would ever do ON MY PHONE... it's not like I am ripping torrents through this connection or something.....
I will probably pull the trigger and be happy as ever...
The question is what does 4G data cost? I assume there is a surcharge like Sprint? I can wait on 4G until there isn't a surcharge, unless it is nominal.
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The question is what does 4G data cost? I assume there is a surcharge like Sprint? I can wait on 4G until there isn't a surcharge, unless it is nominal.
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Sprint has a surcharge for 4g?? What the....
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Sprint has a surcharge for 4g?? What the....
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$10 extra if you want 4G
rolandroland said:
$10 extra if you want 4G
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Dang... I think I am just gonna get the X... I would bet big red charges then if others already are... Plus it will be a while I think before both the phone and coverage get to me...
Engadget review is up!
http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/01/motorola-droid-x-review/
Many sources at verizon claim 4g will launch in november with only mobile broadband devices (ie mifi laptop 4g) but devices/phones wont launch until q1 or q2 2010
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Many sources at verizon claim 4g will launch in november with only mobile broadband devices (ie mifi laptop 4g) but devices/phones wont launch until q1 or q2 2010
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Do you mean q1 q2 2011?
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Do you mean q1 q2 2011?
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Yes. From what I have heard around the watercooler, early 2011 for consumer devices..
Not to metion unless you are in one of those 25-30 markets you will not have it right away. And I can safely say I am currently not.
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The question is what does 4G data cost? I assume there is a surcharge like Sprint? I can wait on 4G until there isn't a surcharge, unless it is nominal.
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Well from what i read Verizon will not charge the extra $10 for 4G but will however used tiered data plans for its 4G phones like AT&T is doing. SO goodbye unlimited data plans. Doesnt make sense, the second they come out with the powerful devices that are basically mini laptops, hotspots and GPS in , they put a cap on the data for these data hundry devices. Just clearly shows again how money hungry they are. Like $30 a month from millions of customers is not enough.
That said, after thinking it through i will also get the doid X. 6 months is a long time to wait to see if rumors pan out. Plus this puppy is running on 1Ghz and will be plenty fast. I even saw is video today where i played video at 60fps. Iphone 4 can only do 30. The video was so so smooth.
I cant wait for July 15th!!!!
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I even saw is video today where i played video at 60fps. Iphone 4 can only do 30. The video was so so smooth.
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Where'd you hear that one from?
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Where'd you hear that one from?
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i saw it in a youtube video where i guy did all these test on the droid's speed. I tried to insert the link but it gives me a error. Just go to youtube and type in droid x benchmark test. Should be a clip where he compaires the droid x, evo and nexus i think
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Well from what i read Verizon will not charge the extra $10 for 4G but will however used tiered data plans for its 4G phones like AT&T is doing. SO goodbye unlimited data plans.
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Want to bet 4G phones wind up requiring the highest tier? Effectively charging for 4G. I just don't see VzW (and every other carrier) not taking advantage of early adopters.
No. Lets say it comes out in 6 months in "select areas". I can upgrade my phone one year from July 15th and more than likely LTE won't be in my area until mid to late 2011 or even 2012. Not worried one bit.
I can't see the lte footprint being useable for a couple years anyways. Dig the X, but think I'll b sticking with my Droid for a while.
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My omnia just broke last week (won't charge any batteries, i think the temp sensor is fried)
So I don't really have a choice but to upgrade to the X, it's the only phone i can do early because otherwise i have to wait till august. And this vx6700 is not very nice to me.
That being said i'm a little upset with the hdmi issue, that was one of my main reasons.
but just to talk about 4g i really doubt it will be much of a battery hog. because sprint basically is just reselling a wimax service (which i do get in my area around chicago) and it is fast but it's not worth using unless i'm on a laptop (because of the battery drain) and soon the unlimited will probably go away like the rest.
And if i'm not mistaken the sprint 4g (wimax) runs at about 2.5ghz? or so. Where I think verizion will incorporate this in there 4g.
http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5iMbsPSv2vatAVvbz_8n0xU3Mfvnw
While 700mhz doesn't provide much bandwidth, My guess there going to use that in tandem with eh EVDO (i think 900mhz ish?) that they currently have, kind of like an A/G router will use both the freq to increase throughput.
Call me stupid but i think having another antenna at a lower freq like that will use up less power then the sprint one at 2.5ghz, but i could be wrong.
http://gizmodo.com/#!5787170/atts-fake-4g-phones-may-actually-get-real-4g-soon
AT&T’s Fake 4G Phones May Actually Get Real 4G Soon
Brian Barrett — It's been well documented that AT&T's 4G phones aren't just slow—their upload speeds are often slower than its 3G network. So what happened to that extra G? Turns out it's not the network itself that's borked; it's the phones. AT&T has intentionally crippled the Motorola Atrix and HTC Inspire—the carrier's only fourth-gen network phones—by actively disabling the handsets' HSUPA capability. Gross. But there may be sweet relief coming soon.
AT&T says that they'll activate HSUPA in the Inspire and Atrix in April with a software update, according to Wired, and that the Samsung Infuse 4G will launch with HSUPA turned on. Why the delay at all? They're apparently performing "the testing and preparations necessary" for people to enjoy the HSUPA experience.
Just to reiterate: the Atrix and Inspire are presumably fully capable of achieving the 5.5+ Mbps speeds promised by HUSPA, but until AT&T flips that switch they're stuck with an embarrassing 300 Kbps upload speed. It's great that 4G may be fully functional soon! Both both phones have been advertised and sold since launch as 4G devices. And it's not like AT&T warns people in advance that their fancy new 4G handset may well be slower than their old one.
It's true that the definition of 4G is a moving target, essentially a slightly different fabrication told by each carrier. But being HSUPA-capable doesn't make a phone 4G if that HSUPA is disabled. You know what other devices are HSUPA-ready? The iPhone 4. iPad 2. And no one's slapping a 4G label on them.
When I buy a loaf of bread, I don't expect to see a lump of raw dough in the bag. And that's what AT&T's selling right now: "4G" phones that are half-baked, at best. [Wired]
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I'm glad bigger sites are covering this. To be honest I'm not mad we don't have 4g yet but at least give us full 3g for gods sake.
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I'm glad bigger sites are covering this. To be honest I'm not mad we don't have 4g yet but at least give us full 3g for gods sake.
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+1 Me too. Well, maybe I am a little "off put" by no 4g.
yeah, well the article is wrong in the end- iphone 4 is being touted as a 4G device.
I hear consumers (end users) bark 4G all the time when talking about thier iPhone- Where did they get this misinformation? AT&T...
I just hope the april update will bring some gingerbread goodness to this phone.
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yeah, well the article is wrong in the end- iphone 4 is being touted as a 4G device.
I hear consumers (end users) bark 4G all the time when talking about thier iPhone- Where did they get this misinformation? AT&T...
I just hope the april update will bring some gingerbread goodness to this phone.
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I think its all the people who don't know better thinking the Iphone 4G (4th generation) means its a 4G phone as in data 4G
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yeah, well the article is wrong in the end- iphone 4 is being touted as a 4G device.
I hear consumers (end users) bark 4G all the time when talking about thier iPhone- Where did they get this misinformation? AT&T...
I just hope the april update will bring some gingerbread goodness to this phone.
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No the people are just dumb, iphone 3g, iphone 3gs, iphone 4. see how they might call it the 4g, especially with all the 4g nonsense in commericals.. Iphone isn't the iphone 2g but people call it that.
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yeah, well the article is wrong in the end- iphone 4 is being touted as a 4G device.
I hear consumers (end users) bark 4G all the time when talking about thier iPhone- Where did they get this misinformation? AT&T...
I just hope the april update will bring some gingerbread goodness to this phone.
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the iPhone 4 has never been touted as a 4G device, ANYWHERE.
No.... it hasn't.... but the general public labels it as such. I was actually down at an AT&T store when i was getting my SIM switched in my Atrix, and someone was there looking at iPhones. They kept questioning about 4G and why the iPhone 4G wasn't a 4G phone. I wanted to say something to them, but i figured i'd let the sales rep handle it. Was even funnier when the customers said "Well i don't want to get a 3G phone and have 3G no longer work when 4G is available". She handled that one nicely too, saying that won't happen since 3G is what a 4G phone will fall back on when the 4G network isn't available.
edit: and i actually just posted this article in the main General topic for all phones since it also takes the Inspire into account.... didn't notice it was already posted here, too.
Galaxy s2 coming to Verizon soon supposedly.
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/06/08/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-headed-to-verizon-in-july/
EDIT: Not happening.
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It better. July is my Birthday and I'd be buying one on release day.
Still no word on LTE or not though
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Still no word on LTE or not though
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No LTE and no thanks. LTE and I'll be getting one.
I dont care, as long as it comes put.
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imnuts said:
No LTE and no thanks. LTE and I'll be getting one.
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This... SGSIII or bust.
or some other unreleased super phone
imnuts said:
No LTE and no thanks. LTE and I'll be getting one.
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Yeah likely same here
Looks like VZW is debunking the rumor of a July release
http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-rumored-possibly-july-launch-verizon
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Looks like VZW is debunking the rumor of a July release
http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-rumored-possibly-july-launch-verizon
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That sucks but also not surprising. Honestly I originally thought the SGS2 wouldn't drop for verizon till september. Then again I'm still content with this fasc as is, at 1.5ghz already, and in cm7 and I can wait
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Speaking of LTE I saw this article for 4G download speeds on Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3GPP_Long_Term_Evolution
When it said 100Mbps I honestly puked in excitement then I started thinking why aren't the phones showing these fast of speeds?
Because the frequency band they are using currently...lte technology benefits exponentially on wider frequencies...fastest they can get on 5ghz is around 25mbps
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Here is a link to the rumored leaked spec sheet.
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Samsung-Function_id5535
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The function is what i'm waiting for before I upgrade but I want them to do better on the price than they did on the Droid Charge
What motivates you guys to give money to either samsung or verizon after the the crap they've pulled with the fascinate?
Ill type it twice because your memory must be really short.
What motivates you guys to give money to either samsung or verizon after the the crap they've pulled with the fascinate?
I cannot wait to get the SGSII my locked down X is killing me. It'll be a great sitting next to my fascinate.
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What motivates you guys to give money to either samsung or verizon after the the crap they've pulled with the fascinate?
Ill type it twice because your memory must be really short.
What motivates you guys to give money to either samsung or verizon after the the crap they've pulled with the fascinate?
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Because a phone is a phone. If it does what it is supposed to do, why complain? We buy phones for what they do; whatever they'll be capable of later after updates is just a plus.
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Why stick with Verizon? Because they're still by far the best nationwide carrier. Let's compare:
Sprint: Good satisfaction ratings, reliable network, lower prices. But their coverage isn't perfect, and they have a 4G network that's already outdated.
T-Mobile: Generally good satisfaction ratings, low prices. But like Sprint, their coverage is sub-par. Fake 4G (HSPA+) network, and doesn't even plan to develop a real 4G network for a few years. Likely will soon be part of AT&T.
AT&T: Terrible satisfaction ratings; the only carrier that's actually getting worse. Unreliable network. Has begun work on an actual 4G network (despite advertising HSPA+ as 4G like T-Mobile), but it's not active anywhere yet. Oh, and if you want to talk about mistreating Android: did you know that until just last month they didn't allow sideloading of apps?
Verizon: Has the widest-ranging, most reliable network. Tops consumer satisfaction ratings year after year (though Sprint is catching up). Has the fastest and most advanced (in both technology and deployment) 4G network, by far. And believe it or not, Verizon actually tends to be a bit more customer-friendly than other carriers. For example: they were the first to prorate early termination fees, and while they will eventually have capped data plans they've also said they'll roll out shared family data plans, something nobody else has talked about.
The consumer satisfaction ratings I'm citing, by the way, are Consumer Reports' -- you could probably find them via some Googling.
What motivates you guys to give money to either samsung or verizon after the the crap they've pulled with the fascinate?
Ill type it twice because your memory must be really short.
What motivates you guys to give money to either samsung or verizon after the the crap they've pulled with the fascinate?
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Why?
1 look at our options. Inferior screens across the board. Singlecored great phones for now, but what about next year. Overall design, few other phones are as sleek.
2 community development. Other than the nexus series or og droid, what other phone has been this great for customizing. Yes I know the driver issues are crap, but have you ever seen a bricked sgs without physical damage?
3 verizon for much of the country is the only choice. I'm not happy about it but there are simply no other options for some. If I found out tmo worked in my area I would drop verizon today.
4 and last, it seems manufactures are learning. samsung donating a sgs2 to the cyan team might just might indicate a reversal in previous ways of thinking.
If nothing else, it comes back to what other choice is there. Name any other option and there is a list of cons to go with it.
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Because the frequency band they are using currently...lte technology benefits exponentially on wider frequencies...fastest they can get on 5ghz is around 25mbps
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Wrong! We've hit 57mbps. Reason why it'll be slower speeds is because it will be "real world" with multiple users as apposed to 1 user testing the max speeds. Also they are going to cap the data throughput.
I just about talked myself into ordering a GSM/HSPA GNote. Knowing that AT&T's 4G LTE was coming, but was probably months if not a year or 2 away from my area (USA, NY/NJ).
But just very recently I'm reading that AT&T unofficially "flipped the switch on" for LTE in some areas of New York City. Unfortunately the GNote's 4G won't be able to utilize LTE.
Yeah, I know 4G/HSPA+ is still decently fast...But a big part of the reason for me going GNote in the first place is for getting the latest and greatest. And with a radio that ain't going to be compatible with something that's already starting to come out, man that's just killing me!
So now I either wait for a Verizon version to hit the US shores (I'd rather NOT go with them!) or look at "skimping" back down to a smaller screen with the GNexus.
The LTE version of the Galaxy Nexus only works on Verizon. Honestly, I'd stick with the Galaxy Note until actually using LTE doesn't murder your battery or put you over a data cap.
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The at&t note is LTE
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There has been no information released to today that specifically indicates the Note will have LTE when/if it does comes to ATT. It has been seen at the FCC with the normal assortment of bands, but the only thing different was NOT the inclusion of LTE, rather a change in the model number (they added B) this could indicate as well that they took the physical button away as they did with the SG2.
No one but Sammy and ATT can say for sure that if/when the Note comes to the US that it will sport ATT's LTE network.
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The at&t note is LTE
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And I've got a bridge to sell you
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I work at Samsung in Austin and they are letting us try out the note for 6 Weeks. it has at&t logo at the top, 4 capacitive buttons at the bottom and all their bloatware. Usually they launch the products within a week of letting us test them.
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Sounds like bull to me. Why then is at&t seeing the note in their system as a tab. Humm
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I'm fairly positive it will be LTE.
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I work at Samsung in Austin and they are letting us try out the note for 6 Weeks. it has at&t logo at the top, 4 capacitive buttons at the bottom and all their bloatware. Usually they launch the products within a week of letting us test them.
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Have you been able to use it yet? Anyway that you can get a pic of just the front screen, or something showing ATT logo?
in for pics, this is great news for me, buuuut....i really wish the front face was blank. the samsung logo is annoying enough
If AT&T gets an LTE Note it will be Qualcomm, if people thought it felt slow in the Skyrocket... a screen with the Note's resolution will not be fun. I say hold off on LTE until gen 2 chipsets are out.
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I don't find the Skyrocket slow at all, much quicker than my brother's ATT GS2. Some of you just look for things to complain about.
Seeking. Did you ever find a time to get some pictures of that Samsung Note for AT&T? I am really looking forward to it coming to AT&T. My upgrade is due up shortly.
I believe that guy was lying, or got scared. He has removed both posts that he made in reference to the ATT version.
Since he disappeared and never showed a pic, here is another story confirming the Note is headed for AT&T with LTE and the Snapdragon processor, along with a picture of it with four soft buttons. However there's something taped to it, presumably covering up the AT&T logo.
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I just about talked myself into ordering a GSM/HSPA GNote. Knowing that AT&T's 4G LTE was coming, but was probably months if not a year or 2 away from my area (USA, NY/NJ).
But just very recently I'm reading that AT&T unofficially "flipped the switch on" for LTE in some areas of New York City. Unfortunately the GNote's 4G won't be able to utilize LTE.
Yeah, I know 4G/HSPA+ is still decently fast...But a big part of the reason for me going GNote in the first place is for getting the latest and greatest. And with a radio that ain't going to be compatible with something that's already starting to come out, man that's just killing me!
So now I either wait for a Verizon version to hit the US shores (I'd rather NOT go with them!) or look at "skimping" back down to a smaller screen with the GNexus.
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The Note LTE won't be the latest and greatest, it may actually be worse than the IshitPhone 4S.
The snapdragon processor is the ONLY SoC that works in LTE phones.
The snapdragon is laggy, inconsistant, and just not a good chipset.
Plus AT&T throttles you if you use too much data too fast, so no thank you. Good luck getting dev support too. The butchered snapdragon LTE **** Note will not be able to use our ROMs or Kernels.
The Galaxy Note LT**** is a no go for me.
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The Note LTE won't be the latest and greatest, it may actually be worse than the IshitPhone 4S.
The snapdragon processor is the ONLY SoC that works in LTE phones.
The snapdragon is laggy, inconsistant, and just not a good chipset.
Plus AT&T throttles you if you use too much data too fast, so no thank you. Good luck getting dev support too. The butchered snapdragon LTE **** Note will not be able to use our ROMs or Kernels.
The Galaxy Note LT**** is a no go for me. I am ****. And I talk a lot of ****. **** **** ****.
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Whats the matter with you? **** this **** that. No need to speak like that here.
BTW have you tried LTE? I have, on a Skyrocket and it is incredible. I may trade my Note in to get the AT&T one with LTE. side by side tests put the SKY TEN TIMES faster than the Note, and for some weird reason 2x as fast in non LTE and even wifi. I suspect they have made other changes to the radio that make it faster than what we have in the Note (but I cant prove this).
The only reason I wouldnt is the 4 capacitive buttons. Not that I dont like those (stops dirt getting caught there) but on this device, one handed, its far easier to hit the central button than the power button.
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Whats the matter with you? **** this **** that. No need to speak like that here.
BTW have you tried LTE? I have, on a Skyrocket and it is incredible. I may trade my Note in to get the AT&T one with LTE. side by side tests put the SKY TEN TIMES faster than the Note, and for some weird reason 2x as fast in non LTE and even wifi. I suspect they have made other changes to the radio that make it faster than what we have in the Note (but I cant prove this).
The only reason I wouldnt is the 4 capacitive buttons. Not that I dont like those (stops dirt getting caught there) but on this device, one handed, its far easier to hit the central button than the power button.
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Everyone created clever names for overrated and generally crappy phones. For example, your phone the "****rocket" or an iphone, the "I****".
On a phone you would never notice 30-50mb downstream speeds unless you are downloading a movie, etc.
The slight speed advantage you receive from LTE over the Note is cancelled out by the Snapdragon. It seems you ignored the main part of my post saying that the Snapdragon is a TERRIBLE SoC. On the ****rocket and the T-mo SGSII, UI lag is prevalent as well as laggy transitions, and unreliable game performance.
The quadrant scores on ANY app reveal the unsteadiness of the Snapdragon when compared to the OG At&t SGSII. Many people including myself have tried the Vivid and the ****rocket and have noticed visible lag when going thru day to day tasks. I went to my local corporate store and tried one on the release day, I asked the rep and he said the model was not defective and then I tried my buddy's ****rocket and it was just as laggy. He ended up buying my OG S2 from me.
Another thing that will stop me from buying any LTE phone besides the fact that they all have Snapdragon SoC's is the butchering done by At&t to ALL their devices but especially to LTE devices.
I owned an AT&T OG SGSII and we had a decent 10-12 well known developers with nice ROMs. Then I took a look at the Skyrocket forums a couple days ago and saw 1 well known dev and another dev asking for donations...
It will be the same with the LTE Note, except most likely worse. That is very unsettling especially since the LTE Note is most likely not shipping with ICS unless its release is in Q2 2012. Then all buyers will be stuck on Gingerbread till someone ports it.
But yup, have fun with those speeds, I doubt those internet speeds will help you much in day to day activites on your phone but okay... Have fun waiting a year for ICS!
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Now adays, att and the term **** go hand and hand. Sooner or later att will replace that word in meaning. Att has been moving to an iphone only serve. Att has been dead last with the newest android and windows offerings. It seems that att only caters to iphone users and is limiting bandwith to cater to the may iphone users. Until apple releases a 4g lte version of the iphone, thier lte network is not a priority.
Can't wait. Only an LTE Nexus on AT&T could make think twice about the Note.
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Now adays, att and the term **** go hand and hand. Sooner or later att will replace that word in meaning. Att has been moving to an iphone only serve. Att has been dead last with the newest android and windows offerings. It seems that att only caters to iphone users and is limiting bandwith to cater to the may iphone users. Until apple releases a 4g lte version of the iphone, thier lte network is not a priority.
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Exactly...
On my Note, when I hit 10gigs of data, I got throttled even though it was day 29 of my billing cycle.
But... On my Iphone I used like 20gigs a month and never got throttled.
As long as the "Apple Cheerleader Effect" lives on, No cell company will ever cater to Android users.
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What will the new evo 4g lte have spec wise? Also will 4g service be an extra charge? I just recently used a friends razor on verizon 4g network and its extremely fast, I was getting almost 2mb per second...I wonder how much coverage sprints 4glite will have and if it will be on par with verizon...since we really never had 4g on the first evo...
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What will the new evo 4g lte have spec wise? Also will 4g service be an extra charge? I just recently used a friends razor on verizon 4g network and its extremely fast, I was getting almost 2mb per second...I wonder how much coverage sprints 4glite will have and if it will be on par with verizon...since we really never had 4g on the first evo...
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specs: http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=3742
4g: the 4g will be the same $10 charge we pay for the current wimax 4g
Speed: no one knows how good the lte will be yet but it will almost definitely be above 2mbps since you can get about 5mbps on the current 4g and lte is much better.
Coverage: they just started rolling out lte so it will be a while before it covers anything near what verizon has. but if the rumors are true then we should have lte just about anywhere we have 3g at some point in the future
hope this answers your questions
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What will the new evo 4g lte have spec wise? Also will 4g service be an extra charge? I just recently used a friends razor on verizon 4g network and its extremely fast, I was getting almost 2mb per second...I wonder how much coverage sprints 4glite will have and if it will be on par with verizon...since we really never had 4g on the first evo...
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For specs http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_evo_4g_lte-4665.php visit here. In short, the screen on this phone has been voted by some, as the best on a smart phone yet; as well as the camera.
Id recommend on also do a comparison on 4g vs lte to see the true differences, but lte should bring a much faster network to us. In reality 2mb down is very slow for lte speeds, and in many areas it's common to get 15mb down or more.
Also, chances are that if you are not receiving 4g services currently, you will more than likely be one of the last ones to receive the lte service. LTE or not, this phone is definitely worth the upgrade on 3g alone.
Hope this helps you a bit.
Why is it def worth the upgrade for 3g alone? BTW I just started modding my evo 4g LoL maybe I should visit sprint & see how well the 4glite network is in my area...maybe wait til it goes full swing to 5mb like you said...also I just ordered exdended batteries 3 weeks ago!! lol
If you are still enjoying the EVO Og, and it is doing everything you need it to, there's nothing wrong with stick with it until more details emerge on the LTE network. For a lot of us, we've been flashing and modding since the phone first came out and it's time to move on.
A few big reasons to consider still switching over though are:
- Mod support - a large chunk of the top devs from OG Evo are making the switch, meaning, most of them will likely stop development on this phone.
- The battery life upgrade is going to make a huge difference, or at least we hope. Considering the fact that no one has one in hand yet, we don't have an accurate depiction of the actually battery life - but consider it safe to say that it will easily outlast the OG.
- Screen wise side-by-side it is night and day. Although OG screen isn't bad, a decent comparison is when you first made the switch from watching standard cable to hd (assuming you have).
- Processor is much, much, faster. This will allow for better game play, smooth transitions, and a better overall user experience.
I could literally write at least another 10 - 20 reasons on why to make the switch, but really no need. As I said, if you're still happy with the OG and don't feel the need to switch just yet, you likely will not miss out on much anyways.
Right I understand..Did they finally move the SD card location to the outside and not behind the damn battery...I hated that about the evo...When is the phone due to be out?
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If you are still enjoying the EVO Og, and it is doing everything you need it to, there's nothing wrong with stick with it until more details emerge on the LTE network. For a lot of us, we've been flashing and modding since the phone first came out and it's time to move on.
A few big reasons to consider still switching over though are:
- Mod support - a large chunk of the top devs from OG Evo are making the switch, meaning, most of them will likely stop development on this phone.
- The battery life upgrade is going to make a huge difference, or at least we hope. Considering the fact that no one has one in hand yet, we don't have an accurate depiction of the actually battery life - but consider it safe to say that it will easily outlast the OG.
- Screen wise side-by-side it is night and day. Although OG screen isn't bad, a decent comparison is when you first made the switch from watching standard cable to hd (assuming you have).
- Processor is much, much, faster. This will allow for better game play, smooth transitions, and a better overall user experience.
I could literally write at least another 10 - 20 reasons on why to make the switch, but really no need. As I said, if you're still happy with the OG and don't feel the need to switch just yet, you likely will not miss out on much anyways.
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Wondering how long I can keep it going. If it could rum ics like sense 1.0 it would hold it own. The devs are working hard. Hats off for the efforts. So funny I will run a rom with broken features when it is perfectly capable but yet we press forward for something better. Nothing wrong with that.
Come on little evo...
Come on devs...
And thank you for your hard work.
Next flash? OK...
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The speculation is that the phone will release on May 18th with pre-orders receiving them (possibly) early. And yes, the phone's micro-sd slot is no longer behind the battery, in fact, you will likely never see the battery ever unless you decide to take your's apart.
Yes. No need to worry. Get it. Now. It's in all our best interest. Do it.
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So we will not be able to upgrade the battery!? That sounds like a ****ty iphoney move...THat is one reason I hated the iphone among many others...But Im a power user & I have 3 spare batteries...I work offshore & my phone can only pull 1X so its constantly drawing massive amounts of power...I usually go thru 1 sprint 2600mah battery & about 50% of an anker 1700mah battery...2000mah is not going to cut it....
Also, will sprints lte network actually work & be widespread...I have fears of the lte network never even being available somewhat like the evo 4g...I never once got to use 4g on it...BTW verizon 4g is amazingly fast & very widespread, tested it out on a friends razor max
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So we will not be able to upgrade the battery!? That sounds like a ****ty iphoney move...THat is one reason I hated the iphone among many others...But Im a power user & I have 3 spare batteries...I work offshore & my phone can only pull 1X so its constantly drawing massive amounts of power...I usually go thru 1 sprint 2600mah battery & about 50% of an anker 1700mah battery...2000mah is not going to cut it....
Also, will sprints lte network actually work & be widespread...I have fears of the lte network never even being available somewhat like the evo 4g...I never once got to use 4g on it...BTW verizon 4g is amazingly fast & very widespread, tested it out on a friends razor max
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With Sense 4.0 and ICS in general, battery life should be amazing compared to our OG Evo. If I were you, wait a couple of months to see results of how battery life is from real world experience. People with the One X with the Quad core are reporting great battery life and their phones have a smaller battery (1800 mAh). The new Evo has a SoC, 28nm chip which will help wasting precious battery life and generate less heat, as well as its larger battery. Overall it seems to be a great phone with enough new quirks to help many upgrade from the OG for a better experience.
One thing that no one talks about is that at some point were expected to be able to ROAM on someones LTE network. (Most likely Verizon) We don't have that now because nobody is running WiMAX except Sprint. Good article about it on goodandevo.net
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Roam to verizons network?? How is that possible if EVO does not use SIM card...I thought to get on another carriers network you need their sim card...I almost jumped the gun due to the low price offered at wirefly..But after the promises of 4g on the first EVO never coming to light for me I Have decided to wait & see...My current evo does everything I need. Only gripe is the 4g that sprint promised which makes me think the same will happen with 4glite....Ive tried a razor max on verizons 4glte & it leaves sprint in the dust....Also, if the lte network is not up & working when the EVO lte is released & the evo lte has no working wimax then what network are you supposed to connect too? Sounds eerily similar to the EVO 4g launch
Verizon and Sprint phones, to the best of my knowledge stopped using SIM cards awhile ago. Sprint allows us to roam on Verizon when there's no Sprint coverage because Sprint signed a roaming agreement to use Verizon.
How were going to roam, I'm not 100% sure but I'm sure we will find out soon.
goodandevo.net/2012/03/here-is-sprints-future-lte-coverage-cap.html
Edit: this would be for the new EVO LTE, not the previous WiMAX versions. Just wanted to clarify.
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You won't be able to roam as sprints lte is at 1900mhz and Verizon is something totally different.
Should be a beast of a phone though. Lte is already live in a few cities and the LG viper lte is already out along with a Samsung lte phone.
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That's true but one can hope lol. But don't forget that Sprint is shutting down Nextels iDen network which will give us the 800 MHz frequency for better building penetration. At least we have that to look forward to in the future. I think Verizon is somewhere in the 700 MHz.
Maybe Sprint classifies some builder of LTE towers (sort of like ClearWire) are the future "roaming" areas that are the grey on the map from goodandevo.net?
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