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Needing convinced to keep my GS2..

Hey folks
I've noticed myself being pulled in more and more by getting an iPhone. Having previously owned a Touch Diamond (WinMo), Xperia X10 and mini then a GS1 and finally this phone, I've owned throughout all this change an iPod touch and also an iPad for the best part.
What I've found is the Apple products seem more... complete. The user experience is significantly more seemless.
Please don't turn this into an "I hate apple so keep the Gs2" thread cause truthfully I hate Apple as a company but what they produce is actually very good.
So, having rooted the phone and flashing custom ROMs, can someone advise tthings I could do to this thing to make it a bit more user friendly? I've had MIUI on it and when it works 100% ill have it on but until then, to prevent me sswapping this for an i4 can you guys advise on mods etc that might make the gs2 experience a bit better?
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why should we bother? Get an iPhone. see who cares.
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I had IPhone for 3 years. Great device. No way could I leave this for it again.
If iPhone5 is 4'3" screen, 1.5 dual core processor, accelerated browser, as easy to jailbreak as this is to root, I'd consider it.

I kind of have to agree with the above poster. Why should we convince you? You are supposed to know what you like and want, not the other way around.

Problem
I really think this should not be a problem

Okay, well scrap this post. Sorry for trying to ask a question that, regardless of what anyone says, a lot of people wanted to ask. Cheers.
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A lot of people want to ask how to make SGS2 Ui more user friendly? I consider it to be one of the most user friendly user interfaces there are. The only one even more user friendly is HTC Sense UI.
It uses the same type of movement as the Iphone does, holding a button a few seconds etc. I love it.
I find the Iphone to be annoying and to closed for it to be comfortable, unless you jailbreak it. Which has been getting harder and harder to do lately. The Iphone 5 is coming soon and there is a large change it will take several weeks before even a small jailbreak is available for that one.
As far as I am aware, the Iphone also lacks Customization, like flashing new firmware or roms etc.
But in the end its just a matter of personal preference and nothing we say can change that. You are the one that needs to feel happy with a phone, if you are not happy with SGS2, then switch to what phone you think will make you happy.

Above post was what I was looking for. Thanks bud
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If I was going to move to the iPhone I'd wait till the iPhone 5 came out.
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yetep said:
Hey folks
I've noticed myself being pulled in more and more by getting an iPhone. Having previously owned a Touch Diamond (WinMo), Xperia X10 and mini then a GS1 and finally this phone, I've owned throughout all this change an iPod touch and also an iPad for the best part.
What I've found is the Apple products seem more... complete. The user experience is significantly more seemless.
Please don't turn this into an "I hate apple so keep the Gs2" thread cause truthfully I hate Apple as a company but what they produce is actually very good.
So, having rooted the phone and flashing custom ROMs, can someone advise tthings I could do to this thing to make it a bit more user friendly? I've had MIUI on it and when it works 100% ill have it on but until then, to prevent me sswapping this for an i4 can you guys advise on mods etc that might make the gs2 experience a bit better?
Regards
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I dont know why you would need convincing from anyone else to keep something that does not meet your expectations or your needs, if you can return the S2 then do so now and get the Iphone and be happy there, its not about what phone you have its about how you area able to use it at its full potential w/o relying on anything else.

I would be happy to give your S2 the loving home it deserves...

yetep said:
Hey folks
I've noticed myself being pulled in more and more by getting an iPhone. Having previously owned a Touch Diamond (WinMo), Xperia X10 and mini then a GS1 and finally this phone, I've owned throughout all this change an iPod touch and also an iPad for the best part.
What I've found is the Apple products seem more... complete. The user experience is significantly more seemless.
Please don't turn this into an "I hate apple so keep the Gs2" thread cause truthfully I hate Apple as a company but what they produce is actually very good.
So, having rooted the phone and flashing custom ROMs, can someone advise tthings I could do to this thing to make it a bit more user friendly? I've had MIUI on it and when it works 100% ill have it on but until then, to prevent me sswapping this for an i4 can you guys advise on mods etc that might make the gs2 experience a bit better?
Regards
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Here is my way to convince you, if you can find a way to Jailbreak iPhone5 with out Comex help or any other 3rd Party help. Just do it yourself than Leeching off Comex. Yea I will say go for it.
If NOT, drop your SGS2 in to the Atlantic Ocean depth to the Abyss, that you can never get it again. Now you got a choice to get iPhone5. Selling it off eBay or Craigslist DO NOT COUNT!!
Or just Love your current SGS2 to the best you can, and ditch the Steve Job Ghetto iPhone5 good bye. Since Ghetto Steve Job left the floor...maybe due to health or something personal who know, Human Made NEWs are all Entertainment to people ears and eyes!!

Indeed, With Comex gone jailbreaking the Iphone 5 (you know they hired him to prevent the jailbreaks on upcoming versions) is going to be a lot harder. In such a case samsungs open approach is much and much better. Thats why i love Android

I had a 3g and a Iphone 4. Never been happier than I am right now with sgs2. I like to tinker with phone and change roms every day. Can't do that with Iphone. Love the screen on this phone, love the speed, very easy to work with. Sgs2 is the best phone on the planet right now in my opinion.
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Seriously??? who cares?? get what you want and then use it. then i figure useless threads like this will die off.

If you mind not having a microSD Slot, great features, flexibility, if you prefer to only scroll icons on a single estate, if you don't like super amoled, you move to iphone
BTW, what the heck do you bring such stupid questions to such a forum. You should know what you want, then seek solutions to what you have in the respective. Forums
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Iphone screen is just too small now its irrelevant. Anything less than 4" screen is so 2010.
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I think you should write down all you can think about the pros and cons of both phones, and weigh what is most important to you. That will put your mind to peace once and for all. For me, the much lighter weight, far less radiation and greater flexibility (e.g. drag & drop rather than itunes) far outweigh any other smartphones.
I don't get the smooth and seamless aspect that I keep hearing about though. I've tried the ipad and have an ipod nano...the devices have limited features and are underwhelming. Perhaps you've read about many "issues" with the SGSII and the need for tweaks to make it perform more smoothly. I do suspect users of android phones--who have done the necessary research--are probably perfectionists in the first place, who scrutinise everything that they own and enjoy the ability to customise the phone to their needs.

Again, above poster. Thank you
Gonna keep hold of it for now, spend ssome time at work tonight figuring out some tweeks etc and go from there.
Those that have been extremely unhelpful, why don't you just not reply?
Anyways, can a mod please lock this thread? Don't see the need for further flaming. Again, the helpful ones, thank you.
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Get an iphone and be a slave of sysstem.
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Before I say goodbye to the iphone 4 and welcome to the S3..

I am seriously on the verge of bying an any network S3 here in the UK. Just before I make the jump can I ask if :-
1) Is there an app like lockinfo for JB iphones that acts like a today screen, listing all your upcoming appointments, missed calls, messages etc from the lock screen? I am happy to JB the andriod if I can do this.
2) Is there an app that works, to record telephone calls both ways without the beep.
3) I have already had huge responses over the volume hack, thanks everyone.
If I can the the 3, then I will take the jump.
All the best
Mik
London - UK

Yes but best to root for answer phone.
1. Executive assistant for lock screen info
2. Total recall s2 s3 for auto records
Ps swapped iphone 4s for s3 and love it,
Had to buy SwiftKey though for keypad!
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Android can do all that and more. The most valid reason to switch from iPhone is that... it simple sucks more than tim cook on a Saturday night.
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Honestly you should stick to the iPhone. If it does everything you need and has all the apps that you use why bother switching? If it's for faster performance or bigger screen wait for the iPhone 5.

I think you should stick with the iPhone 5.
Your thread is plain dumb.
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mbeaumont said:
I am seriously on the verge of bying an any network S3 here in the UK. Just before I make the jump can I ask if :-
1) Is there an app like lockinfo for JB iphones that acts like a today screen, listing all your upcoming appointments, missed calls, messages etc from the lock screen? I am happy to JB the andriod if I can do this.
2) Is there an app that works, to record telephone calls both ways without the beep.
3) I have already had huge responses over the volume hack, thanks everyone.
If I can the the 3, then I will take the jump.
All the best
Mik
London - UK
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Before all that you have to learn the android terminology , JB here means jelly bean not jail break
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Lol
Good one. :thumbup:
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Yeah I noticed most iPhone users are too dumb to ever learn and love android. iOS is perfect for idiots and grandmas to use. So... I say stick with your icrap last thing we need is to convince another iPhone user to switch.
I tried switching a few iPhone idiots over and I've given up. They always complain how it's so hard to use and blame me for talking them into it, not my fault that using iOS for so long has killed off most of their brain cells.

Thanks everyone
Can I thank everyone for their input, even to those who thought my topic was a dumb. I want a new phone and bored with apple so no dis-respect, I have taken onboard everything said and decided to give the S3 a try. I have the option of returning it so I have nothing to loose and everything to gain.
I thought the JB term was hilarious, of course its jelly bean...
Thanks all
Mik

Don't believe the iSheep hype that IOS has more Apps than Android because Android can do anything iPhone can plus anything else you could ever wish, and the only reason IOS has more Apps is all the junk on the App Store that's never even been downloaded once.

Sigh. This thread really goes to show how disappointingly immature some Android users are.
Good to see you're thick skinned enough to ignore it.
I mean really... somebody about to switch from iOS to Android and a couple of idiots just want to post abuse?
You're what's wrong with every community. Stop trying to bully people.
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mbeaumont said:
Can I thank everyone for their input, even to those who thought my topic was a dumb. I want a new phone and bored with apple so no dis-respect, I have taken onboard everything said and decided to give the S3 a try. I have the option of returning it so I have nothing to loose and everything to gain.
I thought the JB term was hilarious, of course its jelly bean...
Thanks all
Mik
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I traded iPhone 4s for SGS3 and I like it much more. There arent limits like you cant set mp3 for a ring tone or alarm tone etc. Stock SGS3 is more open and adjustable than jailbroken iOS. You can find executive assistant for lockscreen info in Google Play, also there are many apps for call recording..
Here on XDA you will find a lot of helpful infos, so it will be easier to get used on android
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Hiker42 said:
Sigh. This thread really goes to show how disappointingly immature some Android users are.
Good to see you're thick skinned enough to ignore it.
I mean really... somebody about to switch to from iOS to Android and a couple of idiots just want to post abuse?
You're what's wrong with every community. Stop trying to bully people.
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+1
All types of people no matter what forum you go act like idiots, I mean come on the mans asking for help are you guys that immature that you have to abuse him instead of Helping him? He had the brains to ignore you all and still give it a shot..
Everyone wants to try something different just try your best to help. And if you do not have anything good to say just ignore it. Your all making the Android community look like it's full of douche bags seriously help or ignore them..
Android has all the things you mentioned mate you can get apps for everything you mentioned i hope you give it a try and hopefully you like it..

True, there are fanboys everywhere and its disgusting. But @ OP, you just figured out the matrix, your free now and know the truth! I'm pretty sure whatever you can do on a jail broken iPhone, you can do it on an android phone ( maybe even without root ) so try the S3 and keep it if you like it, if not you can always, return it. Good luck
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Hi Mbeaumont.....Let me share with you my personal experience....I use to have an IPhone 4....and was quite happy with it, till I realized that whenever I want to explore more the OS and make the best out of it....was a real nightmare, no way to play with the system even Jailbroken, the limits are there and the Break of the Jail was only a shadow door to endless issues and tricky sophistications....I'm not blaming Apple for doing that.....I do have all the Apple MacBook serie......but to me if you are an explorer and want to learn more about any device you buy the choice specifically in the mobile market is very obvious.
Since I have bought the S3 back in July......what an amazing experience it is.....this phone and especially this Android OS is a piece of art that will make every single day of your life for passionate people like me.
Finally I quote John Keating in the famous "Dead Poets Society" movie........"There's a time for daring and there's a time for caution, and a wise man understands which is called for."

Hiker42 said:
Sigh. This thread really goes to show how disappointingly immature some Android users are.
Good to see you're thick skinned enough to ignore it.
I mean really... somebody about to switch from iOS to Android and a couple of idiots just want to post abuse?
You're what's wrong with every community. Stop trying to bully people.
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I agree. Being polite costs nothing.

I made the same switch you did, and would not go back. My mother is now happy with the iphone 4 i gifted her, and I won't be leaving android anytime soon. But it's true that the app market is less appetizing on android atm, even if this is changing with time, and the change is speeding up. Yesterday handled the iphone a bit, looked like a kid's toy to me, even if i recon being happy using it all these years. Also the gs3 is HUGE compared to it and takes a little time totake a good grip on.

Geordie Lad said:
Don't believe the iSheep hype that IOS has more Apps than Android because Android can do anything iPhone can plus anything else you could ever wish, and the only reason IOS has more Apps is all the junk on the App Store that's never even been downloaded once.
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kinda agree with thissss
IMO , Android is the best
and SGS3 is the best
though this is my first android phone :silly:

barondebxl said:
Before all that you have to learn the android terminology , JB here means jelly bean not jail break
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LOL..
and not Justin Bieber
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GalaxyS3 was in another level.
To compare with Iphone need GalaxyS1 and not S3.
Enviado de uma GalaxyaS3 far far away

Well, I Love HTC, but...

While this is "kind of" an HTC fanboy post, I would like others opinions... I love the ONE (The reason I'm posting here), but HTC has fallen behing when it comes to dev support and all together ingenuity (no "But... boomsound" please). I Hate Samsung as an HTC fanboy, but they have been consistent with their products, and that conveys a certain feeling of comfort with a product... A superior screen, and sound, does that really make it better? I want honest opinions (I understand that is very unlikely). Come on people of XDA, everybody wants to buy a superior product...
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jthein1989 said:
While this is "kind of" an HTC fanboy post, I would like others opinions... I love the ONE (The reason I'm posting here), but HTC has fallen behing when it comes to dev support and all together ingenuity (no "But... boomsound" please). I Hate Samsung as an HTC fanboy, but they have been consistent with their products, and that conveys a certain feeling of comfort with a product... A superior screen, and sound, does that really make it better? I want honest opinions (I understand that is very unlikely). Come on people of XDA, everybody wants to buy a superior product...
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I always try to go for galaxy phone but every time I saw their new phone screen I give up.
I really do not know why people like galaxy screen which is not bright at all, hard to read text, only when play video maybe it is good.

No disrespect as it's of course a matter of opinion.
But I think I have to take the opposite side when it comes to ingenuity. I think HTC has done pretty good this year.
Complete Aluminium design - Complete first in smartphone design
Front facing stereo speakers - No one has yet to do with these generations of Smartphones
4MP camera ultrapixel or whatever (it's a trade off for detail/low light but it still counts as ingenuity as HTC is breaking away from everyone else and being original)
Blink Feed/Sense 5- while it's not a complete new idea it is something we haven't seen implemented on Android in this way. A permanent social feed.
And the Zoe capturing video and picture at the same time may be gimmicky, but still showing ingenuity
I'd love to hear why you think opposite though :thumbup:
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jthein1989 said:
While this is "kind of" an HTC fanboy post, I would like others opinions... I love the ONE (The reason I'm posting here), but HTC has fallen behing when it comes to dev support and all together ingenuity (no "But... boomsound" please). I Hate Samsung as an HTC fanboy, but they have been consistent with their products, and that conveys a certain feeling of comfort with a product... A superior screen, and sound, does that really make it better? I want honest opinions (I understand that is very unlikely). Come on people of XDA, everybody wants to buy a superior product...
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The S4 is only going to make sense for exactly two reasons, and that will be microSD and removable battery. Snapdragon means development will be much easier, and S-OFF will happen faster. I can break it down point by point and explain with the engineer's perspective why HTC is doing the right thing to make the best product, even if it doesn't sound as impressive.

You are thinking about picking the Galaxy S4S over the HTC One?

Turb0wned said:
You are thinking about picking the Galaxy S4S over the HTC One?
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You mean Galaxy S3S?
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NiCk.JaY said:
You mean Galaxy S3S?
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You're a champion Nick!
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I see where you're coming from OP, HTC really lags sometimes when releasing kernel source versus Samsung
Personally, I'm a die-hard Sense man. I love it. Yet, my next will be Samsung because the super easy rooting and no need to do any "wire" tricks and all this risky stuff to root that comes with an HTC device now is a PITA. I mean Samsung comes with an unlocked bootloader versus locked HTC bootloader and also nand-locked. Makes it difficult to choose, but I'd rather go with greater dev support and higher chances of gaining root and gaining root safely.
And this has nothing to do with ingenuity. HTC is doing some nice things as notsointeresting pointed out, but the other things theyre doing is really making them dig their own grave, at least from the way i see it. I mean, the whole reason Android has gained so much ground on Apple and actually surpassed it was mainly because of the whole "open source" thing that lead to the creation of a huge developer / contributor community. Yet companies like Motorola, LG, and HTC make it really difficult to take advantage of these community-contributed material by locking their devices' bootloaders and generally making it difficult to root. In light of this, its no surprise that Samsung is so popular now

I'm seriously thinking about getting the HTC one, I am so done with Samsung and their plastic phones. My only concern with the HTC one is the non removable battery. Let me be more specific, I absolutely love rooting and flashing custom Roms on my phones. In the past when my phone would freeze and there was no other option, I would just pull the battery and presto, however, with a non removable battery what are we supposed to do if the phone freezes up on us... What are our options???
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dmarco said:
I'm seriously thinking about getting the HTC one, I am so done with Samsung and their plastic phones. My only concern with the HTC one is the non removable battery. Let me be more specific, I absolutely love rooting and flashing custom Roms on my phones. In the past when my phone would freeze and there was no other option, I would just pull the battery and presto, however, with a non removable battery what are we supposed to do if the phone freezes up on us... What are our options???
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Throw it against a wall with a good case on? Lol idk, this was one of the things keeping me from getting the evo lte was it? Or whichever one had the nonremovable sdcard / battery

dmarco said:
I'm seriously thinking about getting the HTC one, I am so done with Samsung and their plastic phones. My only concern with the HTC one is the non removable battery. Let me be more specific, I absolutely love rooting and flashing custom Roms on my phones. In the past when my phone would freeze and there was no other option, I would just pull the battery and presto, however, with a non removable battery what are we supposed to do if the phone freezes up on us... What are our options???
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Press and hold power for about 10 seconds and that simulates a battery pull.
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eg1122 said:
Press and hold power for about 10 seconds and that simulates a battery pull.
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Shut up!!! It's that easy?? Omg, sorry for sounding like such a noob, it's just that the HTC one will be my first phone with a non removable battery. I had no idea that's all you had to do. Thanks, can't wait to get my one now
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You know what I thought about how easy it is to root and flash roms on Samsung devices and how slightly more difficult it is to root etc htc. But then I thought could I own another plastic phone and every time the answer was "NO I couldn't" even if it was easier to root.

Easy rooting is invalid with this device. You guys have not been in the dev section? There is a superroot where it roots your device at boot with just a file and a click.
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dmarco said:
Shut up!!! It's that easy?? Omg, sorry for sounding like such a noob, it's just that the HTC one will be my first phone with a non removable battery. I had no idea that's all you had to do. Thanks, can't wait to get my one now
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You do realise it's the same with Samsung phones as well? Just holding power button is much easier than removing your phone from its case, taking off back cover, Battery pull, replace cover, replace case....
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Seriously people saying Samsung is easier to root and HTC is worse at software development support, YOU GUYS MUST NEVER OWN BOTH OF THEM! ( p.s I have hox and s2 )
Odin is pratically the dumbest software to flash an OTA or root kernel or recovery. ( Okay not dumb but hard to use ) and Samsung OTA namings are the worst. With all the alphabets naming you need to search and search again for your desired version. Whereas HTC is so easy by looking at the numbers only. And updating an OTA only requires you to fastboot flash a stock recovery then run the OTA.exe then its done.
Besides, HTC always provide bootloader unlock on htcdev.com ( yes One is already available ). And its easy as 1,2,3 which I see no points for people always complaining about it. Although no S-Off really make something a lot more difficult on HOX, ( flashing kernel is a pain, yes ) but seeing how Snapdragon processors usually have problem to achieve a S-Off this is not a big issue too.
After living one year with non removable SD n battery I actually get used to it. With non-removable battery you won't have to pull ur precious battery cover apart to restart a phone freezes at flashing ROMs ( admit it you hate to take apart your phone, my heart just aches when taking apart battery cover of S2 or incredible S ) and with non-removable SD you always clean it up so less defragmentation occurs.
I may sound biased but this is truly from someone who has experienced them both. Hope it helps.

I didn't mean "ingenuity". That's my fault. They are trying new things. The problem with doing that, is as soon as they make a niche in the market (think OG EVO), they change the concept...
I like that they are trying to be the first to do this or that, but they don't need to change every aspect of there device design with each new device... I mean, really?
I think most will agree with me on this, take the stereo sound out and fill that space with LI-PO... I would much rather the device last a little longer, than hear my phone ring 2 houses away.
And everybody claims that the screen is the number one thing about a smartphone, bullcrap. Software is, and if you can develop easier on one device than you can another, developers are probably gonna swing toward that device...
HTC needs to realise that "flagship" phones, with all their tech and wonder, are going to sell to the dev community (aside from the ONE uppers (pun intended)). But all they do is drive a wedge with there ridiculous locks and late source code releases.
Apple made it to where it is today because simplicity, people want simple devices (including devs). They are still at the top (albeit, as a fashion statement, rather than a phone now that Steve Jobs can influence the tech)... Numbers don't lie, they are the only constant in this universe, the only truly universal language.
Open-source is a brilliant idea, but when we can't use it on a device, it's basically a hard to use iPhone (locked-down), and nobody wants a device that they can neither work easily, nor change it to make it better... Which is the reason Samsung sells more devices, and has a HUGE dev following. The same reason they don't bother with a new fully aluminum chassis, because it sold before, it will again. If it is not broke, don't try to fix it.
I have my opinion, others have their opinions, I don't mind them, I just voice mine.
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And everybody claims that the screen is the number one thing about a smartphone, bullcrap. Software is, and if you can develop easier on one phone that you can another, developers are probably gonna swing toward that phone...
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Developers make apps for every phone. Android = Android. You can tout software features from the brands all you want, but most people here on XDA use their own launcher and their own apps for any phone. Software is the number one thing, but all Android 4.1 and above devices are all running the exact same software in my book.
Don't get me wrong, I want to play with BlinkFeed and all, but at the end of the day I will probably go back to Zeam launcher, exDialer, GoogleVoice for texting, and the official FaceBook app... the exact same software I would use on any Android phone old or new.
EDIT: PreHome for task-switcher, MX Player for video, etc, etc, etc. The one thing I haven't found a good 3rd-party solution for is the camera app, so for that, I am excited to try this new Zoe thing (I thought of that idea 5 years ago... why take pictures when you can take 2-sec video and then make the best picture from it later).

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Developers make apps for every phone. Android = Android. You can tout software features from the brands all you want, but most people here on XDA use their own launcher and their own apps for any phone. Software is the number one thing, but all Android 4.1 and above devices are all running the exact same software in my book.
Don't get me wrong, I want to play with BlinkFeed and all, but at the end of the day I will probably go back to Zeam launcher, exDialer, GoogleVoice for texting, and the official FaceBook app... the exact same software I would use on any Android phone old or new.
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I agree with that, I'm a sense man myself. Thank you for your opinion.
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Samsung - inspired by nature.

You know how Samsung say they're inspired by nature? One thing's rather peculiar. I don't recall nature being bloated, ugly and sluggish. Or maybe they specifically mean stink bugs, ticks, weeds, etc.. Rather peculiar, don't you think?
'Tis a funny world we live in.

Theshawty said:
You know how Samsung say they're inspired by nature? One thing's rather peculiar. I don't recall nature being bloated, ugly and sluggish. Or maybe they specifically mean stink bugs, ticks, weeds, etc.. Rather peculiar, don't you think?
'Tis a funny world we live in.
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Inspired by what comes out of a cows ar*e I think... ill never buy a samsung again I know that much
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This is the first and the last samsung phone, from now on i'm going with nexus.

My first Samsung phone, OEM wise. I had a Gnex before. This is, however, my very last Samsung device. EVER. I will never buy another Faildung device again. Deciding which phone will be my bext is hard, though, because I'm considering either the Xperia Z, HTC One or the next Nexus. Maybe not the HTC after all because I don't feel like messing with locked down bootloaders (unless they're nexii because it's a simple fastboot command to lock/unlock at your will)

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My first Samsung phone, OEM wise. I had a Gnex before. This is, however, my very last Samsung device. EVER. I will never buy another Faildung device again. Deciding which phone will be my bext is hard, though, because I'm considering either the Xperia Z, HTC One or the next Nexus. Maybe not the HTC after all because I don't feel like messing with locked down bootloaders (unless they're nexii because it's a simple fastboot command to lock/unlock at your will)
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Yeah htc's are a bit*h man a mate of mine has a xperia z its a very very nice phone in my opinion
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Theshawty said:
........ Rather peculiar, don't you think?
'Tis a funny world we live in.
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Theshawty said:
My first Samsung phone, OEM wise. I had a Gnex before. This is, however, my very last Samsung device. EVER. I will never buy another Faildung device again. Deciding which phone will be my bext is hard, though, because I'm considering either the Xperia Z, HTC One or the next Nexus. Maybe not the HTC after all because I don't feel like messing with locked down bootloaders (unless they're nexii because it's a simple fastboot command to lock/unlock at your will)
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Don't forget this site if you want an xperia z
http://unlockbootloader.sonymobile.com/
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i agree to you guys..
samsung is crap. will never buy samsung again, NEVER.
you will only have problems with samsung, like the SDS.
Go with Iphone (no im not iphone fan or something, never owned one but friends got.)or with Nexus.
Software > Hardware

saprer said:
i agree to you guys..
samsung is crap. will never buy samsung again, NEVER.
you will only have problems with samsung, like the SDS.
Go with Iphone (no im not iphone fan or something, never owned one but friends got.)or with Nexus.
Software > Hardware
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"Software > Hardware"
Clearly not the case with iPhones, ^^

Inspired by nature, yeah right.
Two words: dog poo.
Its natural
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The Inspired by Nature thing was a huge marketing fail in my view.

Where is Glebun.. Waiting for him.. Shawty beware...
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Where is Glebun.. Waiting for him.. Shawty beware...
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Haha got the jaws theme tune in my head now
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I'm quite happy with my samsung. Had the S II before this S III and I guess I like the multitude of roms available. Sure, Samsung needs to get their Exynos sources out in the wild but even without them AOSP, Cyanogenmod and AOKP aren't that bad. Used those type of Roms for a while and never thought I would flash a Samsung based rom again... Until a few weeks ago. You could say there's alot of bloatware in the stock rom and you're absolutely right. On the other hand, some bloat is really "useful". For me personally I really like showing photos and videos directly on my TV without having to open a third party DLNA app. I like how easy it is to root and unroot everything back to stock. I like my external SD card, removable battery. I like how their phones feel in my hand. My girlfriend has an Xperia S and although I kinda like the design, it just doesn't feel right in the hand nor are the menu and back button easy to touch. I think the S4 with a Snapdragon or Exynos with sources will be the perfect phone. Gonna hold on to my S III for the time being or till I have one of my impulsive buying sprees.

Personally, I don't really "get" the Nature bit. Bit of a Marketing thing, differentiation and all that USP stuff.
I'm actually quite happy with the S3. I've a later one, mind. I've never had any funny reboots whatever firmware I used, never had any marks or cracks and the battery life on a Stock or Stock based ROM is rather good.
My primary likes are:
Good sound, great FM radio (I use this a lot due to a serious walking regime - I'm probably of a similar age to one of you other guys). The call quality and general signal sensitivity (GPS/FM/Cell/WiFi/BT) are really good. The notification LED is a real boon too - not having to wake the phone to see missed activity or see something come in during a meeting is fantastic.
The screen is truly oleophobic AND scratch-resistant - I hate screen protectors - they're hard to fit properly and look sh1t quickly.
They hold their value well if looked after cosmetically.
In a word then it is reliable - and eminently modifiable.
The things I dislike are:
The screen is just not bright enough outside even without direct sunlight. Hopelessly dim. This is the biggy for me - walking whilst outside and trying to read anything is just a joke.
The Samsung software is cobbled together, and feels so. Fortunately I remove most of it, but the core is still there... and their non-open source approach and lack of engagement with their development community is a "shame".
A soft gel case is a necessity or you will drop it. I never have. Touch wood.
The accessories supplied are 2nd rate. Belies the cost of the phone.
Replacing the screen and digitizer as a unit (the only real way to do it) is f.expensive (I did a mate's - £150)
I would buy another Samsung, I had the SGS2 and that was good for its time too. My wife's 2 yo Omnia 7 is also reliable and she has had no issues with that either. My eldest daughter's Xperia S has started losing pixels. My youngest daughter's HTC ONE S is totally stock and has randomly rebooted from new for no obvious reason. And this is the 4th Amazon BNIB replacement. It looks like crap too after a few weeks as the black finish is brittle.
Problem is, what else is there?
S4 - unknown quantity (might not have an FM Radio, might be Snapdragon or not), £600 and being an early adopter means beta tester.
HTC ONE - even if you can get hold of one, too early to tell if they are reliable or durable and the modding potential is not great.
Nexus 4 - No FM radio and LG not the world's best phone designer
Sony Z - good but odd in the hand and screen dim - massive development potential though thanks to Sony.
LG Optimus G - not readily available, too expensive, no FM radio and no development community and Billy Bland.
Note 2 - get real. S3 on acid with a silly stick, has its own identity crisis.
I would like the OPPO Find 5 - but not available and may not have an FM Radio or LED notification. Or development potential. I have an OPPO Blu-Ray player that is utterly fantastic. For those that remember, like a Nakamichi tape deck style quality.

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Where is Glebun.. Waiting for him.. Shawty beware...
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right here! Where was I? Right.. This kind of stuff should be in the General thread, that's what it's for

Glebun said:
right here! Where was I? Right.. This kind of stuff should be in the General thread, that's what it's for
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Well! You won't get an argument from me..
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Glebun said:
right here! Where was I? Right.. This kind of stuff should be in the General thread, that's what it's for
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Better late than never

Glebun said:
right here! Where was I? Right.. This kind of stuff should be in the General thread, that's what it's for
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With the current discussions going on in the general thread (eels, lube, etc.) I don't think many dare entering, or even stay after they've entered so I thought I'd liven the place up a bit.

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Better late than never
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Your location reminds me of my favorite Orbital song!

[Q] Nexus 4... worth it?

Hi,
I'm a big Samsung fan, i've had the S1, S2 and currently own the S3..at the moment i'm running cyanogenmod 10.1 and after a few initial misgivings about it's lack of features compared to a sammy touchwiz rom ... i'm really starting to like the aosp feel and look..
Now after a year of owning the S3 i'm getting a bit restless and feel like a change.. the nexus 4 is the phone that's intriguing me most. So I have a really simple question, is it a sensible move to the 4 from the S3.
Carl.

Yes only if non removable battery or SD card is not a problem which I personally don't mind and the camera won't to better but around the same and no lte then I'd say go for it , it does give you a bang for your buck especially with development I use P.A which is awesome
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The main pros of the Nexus 4 that I keep listing anytime I tell people about it are the following:
1. Price. $350 is pretty much half the price of any other competitor to the Nexus 4
2. Pure Android, updated directly from Google. As soon as a new version of Android is released, it's on the Nexus. Google develops Android FOR this device.
3. Design. Glass front and back, it's a solid phone. Looks sleek.
Now, newly-released phones do have slightly better hardware. But we're getting to the point of diminishing returns. We're packing so much hardware into these devices, you'll hard-pressed to find software that actually makes use of it. I think the only debate you should be having is buy the Nexus 4 now, or wait until the next Nexus comes out, possible during the holidays. That isn't to say this phone won't still be a solid phone then, but I can understand if some people wait to buy updated versions.
To answer your question: yes. It is definitely worth it. At $350, it's fiscally irresponsible NOT to buy a Nexus 4. Right now I'm paying $30/mo for a tablet plan on AT&T with 3gb of data. Having weird and crazy options like that don't seem to happen with other phones. I feel like the Nexus 4 is YOUR phone, not 80% your phone, 20% the manufacturer's.
Spoiler alert: I might be a little biased, but c'mon. It's a sweet phone.

No, don't buy a N4. You obviously can't be bothered to research and figure out if this phone is worth it or not. You definitely aren't going to do any other research when you attempt to Root, Rom, and Mod......Buy a different phone and clutter their forums.:silly:

Definitely get the phone. It's worth every penny. Root it and put Franco kernel and you're good for the entire day.
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Before I read everyone else's post I want to say I came from the gs3 had gs2. I would do it again in a heart beat. However it's not a super huge upgrade like it was from gs1 to gs2 or even gs2 to gs3. The software is where I enjoyed the phone the most.
I loved my screen on my gs2 and gs3 on this I wasn't impressed until I got used to it. Now I feel samsung screens have to much pop in the colors
Hope this made sense
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is the phone worth it, hell yeah for 350$ you can't get better. Is it worth it for you? You'll have to answer that question yourself.

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No, don't buy a N4. You obviously can't be bothered to research and figure out if this phone is worth it or not. You definitely aren't going to do any other research when you attempt to Root, Rom, and Mod......Buy a different phone and clutter their forums.:silly:
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Assholes like you are why XDA has a bad reputation with newcomers. People come here FOR research, prick.

Go for it and join in all the fun on XDA! Cool

tweaked said:
Says the guy with one thanks.....
I called no one names But you, on the other hand broke XDA rules. Reported.
/waaaaa
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Lol dat butthurt

Well the guy is trying to get perspective from people who actually own the device and use it day to day which is much different than reading any review from someone who might be biased in one way or another.
Maybe the op could have used a different subject or maybe asked what everyone thinks of the phone from actual owners.
Just something to consider before jumping to conclusions
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Not in love with the Nexus 4. Have had it since January when it replaced my SGS2 (T989). I really appreciated not having to search for the least buggy ROM, as the stock was nice but at this point I'm dissatisfied with the Camera, which seems to produce mostly mediocre pictures (sadly, and since my other devices and cameras produce better ones, I'm afraid it's not (usually) operator error); the screen, whose color palate I don't love and whose auto-brightness is chronically dim (which can of course be mostly remedied by not using auto-brightness, though wish I could), and lastly the touch sensitivity, which I may try to adress now—I understand there are fixes. Nevertheless, I'm gonna see what T-Mobile will sell me a SGS4 for...

tweaked said:
No, don't buy a N4. You obviously can't be bothered to research and figure out if this phone is worth it or not. You definitely aren't going to do any other research when you attempt to Root, Rom, and Mod......Buy a different phone and clutter their forums.:silly:
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Perhaps next time if you've got nothing constructive to say, you should just refrain from posting...

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tweaked said:
No, don't buy a N4. You obviously can't be bothered to research and figure out if this phone is worth it or not. You definitely aren't going to do any other research when you attempt to Root, Rom, and Mod......Buy a different phone and clutter their forums.:silly:
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Cheers for the help.. i've read dozens of reviews, spec lists and browsed many forums to get a decent idea of the phone, I thought i'd ask people who may have previously had the Galaxy line of phones and XDA seemed a logical place to do so..
I've been a registered member of this site for probably 2 years and never created a thread before, simply because of the very hostile and condescending attitude of some of the members and BINGO, you did yourself proud mate..
Carl.

N4 is awesome bro get one.i never regretted not buying a note2
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Why make a thread about is it worth it? :thumbdown::thumbdown:
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