So earlier this day i went to a shop and found the HTC 8X there, i couldnt resist playing with it, so i tested everything possible on it, but found not major, but rather irritating performance hickups. They especialy happened when I started doing some fast scrolling in the home screen and found that the faster i was scrolling the bigger the lag was, especialy when moving to the app drawer, and the bouncy efect when overscrolling. Also when i scrolled really slow in the messages for example, the text didnt go up and down fluid but rather stutered a little, is this only happening on HTC 8X or all WP8 devices? Thank you for answering.
Definitely NOT happening on my Lumia 920. This thing is a freakin rocket!
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Definitely not happening on my AT&T 8X. No such issues at all.
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Definitely NOT happening on my Lumia 920. This thing is a freakin rocket!
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Nope my 810 is good to go
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My Lumia 920 is really smooth. The only time it hiccups is on the lockscreen if I have an app running in the background (MetroRadio tends to do this). I think it's because MetroRadio is a WP7 app and hasn't been updated for WP8 yet.
My htc .8x has no lag issues!
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So earlier this day i went to a shop and found the HTC 8X there, i couldnt resist playing with it, so i tested everything possible on it, but found not major, but rather irritating performance hickups. They especialy happened when I started doing some fast scrolling in the home screen and found that the faster i was scrolling the bigger the lag was, especialy when moving to the app drawer, and the bouncy efect when overscrolling. Also when i scrolled really slow in the messages for example, the text didnt go up and down fluid but rather stutered a little, is this only happening on HTC 8X or all WP8 devices? Thank you for answering.
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App drawer, huh? I think you may have picked up a one X.
^ lol, so true.
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I think you just had a bad model. My HTC 8x (black) is smooth as butter. Only thing I noticed with Beats Audio is that it "lagged" a bit the first time on playback after I chucked the device full of new apps and music, but that was only for a day. I think it was busy caching or something - but no lag or hiccups anywere now.
Hey,
I think I noticed a same lag issue, maybe the thread starter also had a WP before because I think WP 7.x did some scrolling smoother ... For me it only happens when I scroll with my finger put down. There seems to be way too much going on cpu wise when I scroll up and down. As soon as I lift my finger the Lumia 920 turns into a rocket again.
I tried to do a comparison video with my own 920 and my old 800 (which I gave to my girlfriend ^^). The video cannot quite show what the issue is but it is hard to describe it anyways. I still think the thread starter is right and this issue maybe should be reported to MSFT.
Scrolling on Lumia 800:
Scrolling on Lumia 920:
(Just ignore the sound)
bye, Smirny
ok I finally figured out how to reproduce the issue clearly. It seems that scrolling within legacy WP7 apps is not affected by this. So you can try this out for yourself.
1. Go to your homescreen and scroll around a bit while leaving your finger ON the screen.
2. Go to any legacy app and do the same scrolling behaviour. There is a difference between the smoothness of the two!
I recommend for example "Photocasa Galery" because it tries to immitate the homescreen tiles, so you can compare the two even better. (http://www.windowsphone.com/en-us/store/app/photocasa-gallery/4f2eedf9-09c2-4baa-8ec5-160f0ca5f542)
bye, Smirny
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I think I finally found a solution:
Go to your ease of access settings and check whether the magnifier is enabled. I enabled it just for fun, but since I disabled it again this phone is very very smooth again! Hope it also works for you =)
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Has anyone noticed this? Wherever there's something to scroll, web pages, menus etc., the motion is sort of stuttering as long as you keep your finger on the screen. When you release your finger and "throw" the page, it goes smooth. This makes me think that it's not a graphic performance issue, but it's more like if the resolution of the capacitive touch screen was lower than the actual display. I hope I'm wrong and it's software related...
Software related, doesn't always do this.
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On second thought I am not sure, sometimes it does this really badly and other times it is completely smooth. If we didn't have full resolution touch you would notice it on a multi touch test app.
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I think I have found the cause.
Cpu scaling!
Lock setcpu to 1 ghz and it is much smoother.
What is happening is the cpu speed keeps throttling and jumping back to full speed causing problems
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Actually...still unsure...ideas anyone?
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"Problems" with CPU speed jumping up and down? Those are not problems but a design decision (jury is still out on whether the implementation is done right) to save energy.
Of course you can crank everything up to the max and never put peripherals or the CPU to sleep, but please don't start complaining when your battery runs flat before the day is done.
They set the ramp down cpu speed timer far too short. This can be modded in a kernel anyway.
Using a multi touch test we have at minimum 600x300 touch resolution, way more then enough to have lag free scrolling.
There's an acer android phone out with only about 32x 24 touch resolution. They manage
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I don't think it's related. I'm experiencing this even with the cpu locked in performance mode. On the other hand, using a multitouch test app, I was able to move a pointer pixel by pixel at what seemed to be the screen's full resolution, so touch res is not the cause.
It's quite annoying cause even if you want to launch a fast scroll of, say, your contact list, you get that initial ugly small stutter... when browsing the internet this ruins the experience even more, since you are likely to keep your fingertip on the screen more.
Dunno about you guys but uninstalling Gesture Search by Google fixed it for me.
Never had that on my phone...
Bump... am I the only one bothered by this?
Am I?...
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Am I?...
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Could be, I had a HTC HD2 and it suffered from that problem alot. numerous videos have been posted on youtube because of it as well.
One possible way of minimizing the problem is to electrically discharge your screen, by putting an electric conductor, such as metal on it to remove and negative/postive ions still hanging around. Read that up somewhere and it somewhat helped my HD2.
Personally i have only experienced once on my Sgs and have not been able to replicate it since.
If you have big fingers that could also be a problem as the touch sensor can't decide on where to locate your finger...
Thank you for your answer! The electrical conductor you mentioned should go somewhere to discharge though... I can't walk around with a ground wire hanging from my phone all the time Plus, I really believe it's software. I know it always goes there but... iPhones have similar technology but they always scroll smooth. maybe it's interpolation we're missing here.
Btw I have particularly small hands!
Discharging it only has to be done only when the problem seems to be worsening. just try not to place your entire thumb on it but rather use the tips of yours fingers, that way it doesnt jerk.
I have to say this problem is pretty consistent, hence not worsening (or improving) whatsoever in any circumstances. It's just not fluid, ah my Touch HD used to be, but that was because of poor GPU (driver); we know that can't possibly be the case here, and as a matter of fact, regardless of load, stuff in the background etc, it's there all the time.
But as soon as you release the fingertip, the "inertial" part of the scrolling just goes as smooth as possible.
So I'd dismiss the electrostatic explanation, it seems like it was a non-interpolated low touch resolution... except that it's not...
Hi Folks, I have noticed the same problem running eclair 2.1 with Ryan's one click lag fix applied (the lag fix did speed it up quite a bit too!). It seems to do it after coming out of 'sleep' mode i.e when I wake it up from blank 'screen saver'. After a few scrolls or taps it starts to smoothen out a bit, but still not as I would like it to be.... Just my observations and sorry I can't offer up any Solutions... Any word if 2.2 update will make things better? Also, does anyone know when the update will hit Australia?
Welcome to android world, iphone users.
The world where not everything is super-smooth.
Actually it might be related to smoothing of touch input. Btw my scrolling is quite ok, but I come from Sybian world, world of lag.
xan said:
Welcome to android world, iphone users.
The world where not everything is super-smooth.
Actually it might be related to smoothing of touch input. Btw my scrolling is quite ok, but I come from Sybian world, world of lag.
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'smoothing of touch input'? could you please expand on this?
BTW - I Never owned an iFone, and don't really go for it's comunistic ways... (although some people take comfort in it! )
Hm, touchscreen sends raw data to driver (noisy, with peaks) to driver. Driver cleans and interprets them.. (unless its done in TS firmware)
I think that more cleaning and smoothing at this stage would result in smother scrolling, but not-so-precise tracking (when drawing, etc).
I'm just speculating here, because I have no real knowledge about this.
OK... Although it seems like there is a delay in reloading to short term memory when coming out of hibernation? Would this sound like a place to start looking? if so, anyone have any ideas on how to manipulate this function?
Right now with all the new kenels with have manage to approach 60fps. But it will never be smooth enough if we dont get the stutter fix.
Before u begin and say that your phone does not have the stutter, well it does. The problem is at any window such has contact if u swipe u get a very smooth scrolling but if you hold your finger and scroll very slowly u will see microstutter and not a smooth scrolling.
Im not sure if this has been posted before and dont know if it might be the screen or actual Os
Im holding the zune hd & iphone. Both device does not suffer from this microstutter
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Strange I have no stutter using fresh 3.2 with stock kernel.
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Before u begin and say that your phone does not have the stutter, well it does.
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Strange I have no stutter using fresh 3.2 with stock kernel.
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Strange I do have stutter using fresh 3.2 with stock kernel.
And I agree with OP. I knew I wasn't the only one who noticed this. When flicking through homescreens on launcher pro (or even sense) the scrolling is completely smooth. When you hold your finger on the screen and move it, it stutters and makes very tiny jumps. It's not appealing. It's great we've been able to crack the 30fps limit despite HTC's unhelpful attitude. I think the next step would be to get rid of the stuttering.
I have the same exact issue and have noticed this from day one. It's quite annoying. I thought the fix for fps would stop it, but I was wrong. I've tried to ignore it, but such a thing cannot be ignored by my eyes. It's noticeable every time and more annoying each time.
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I have been bothered by this since day one also. its the only negative thing a colleague of mine (blackberry user) has to say when he compares iphone to evo. its there wether you notice or not
When "slowly" dragging my finger to change screens I see that initial stutter but I'm not seeing the "jumping." Or is it that initial stutter?
Usually flicking through the screens as fast as my finger can go and it looks smooth as a babies .... bowel movement.
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When "slowly" dragging my finger to change screens I see that initial stutter but I'm not seeing the "jumping." Or is it that initial stutter?
Usually flicking through the screens as fast as my finger can go and it looks smooth as a babies .... bowel movement.
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it won't be noticeable until you have an iphone or zune hd, who ever saids that it's not there is because they have not notice it at all. i have use all fresh roms and still have it.
Go to a website or to contacts and swipe to scroll, you will see a very butter smooth scrolling. Have a iphone on hand and do the same, you'll that the smoothness is about the same. Now grab the screen with your finger and slowly without let in go of the finger scroll up or down. You'll see a microstutter which is very obvious when you compare it to a OS like iphone or Zune HD (and from video do not see it in wm7). Is very annoying. I have the iphone 4g next to me and can tell you that the scrolling between home screens are about the same smoothness wise (using launcher pro with king's kenel #8). But the microstutter is so obvious between devices that is to hard not to notice.
like i said, i'm not sure if this is due to the screen or what, i'll try it on my sister nexus but is good that could take a development look into this problem aswell.
Maybe a nova/epson difference. Because my nova does not stutter.
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Maybe a nova/epson difference. Because my nova does not stutter.
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Nova is what i have at the moment and this happens. running Evio, my friend with me right now has an epson running fresh and does it has well.
The people who claim they don't have it are simply not seeing it, but it's definitely there. It's on my brother's evo, mine, and my friends.
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Honestly have to say I forgot what the sense contacts evn look like..if even different from aosp cm6...but if memory serves it is slightly and I get a smooth scroll. Went to some image heavy sites and notices that pictures sorta pixelate a bit when slowly scrolling but text bodies and links scroll smooth when inching along. Using dolphin HD over stock if that counts for anything. Like I said I see a slight stutter on homescreens initially but it scrolls smooth and as said maybe the aosp isn't giving me issues. Not sure?
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Honestly have to say I forgot what the sense contacts evn look like..if even different from aosp cm6...but if memory serves it is slightly and I get a smooth scroll. Went to some image heavy sites and notices that pictures sorta pixelate a bit when slowly scrolling but text bodies and links scroll smooth when inching along. Using dolphin HD over stock if that counts for anything. Like I said I see a slight stutter on homescreens initially but it scrolls smooth and as said maybe the aosp isn't giving me issues. Not sure?
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i have tried CM6 and still there. It will always be smooth with any rom, even more with cm6, but this is something else. Is something with how the screen detects the scrolling touch while holding it.
like i said before, you'll not really notice it much until you see an iphone and compare both side by side. Then you'll see the problem i'm talking about.
as a previous iPhone user, this was the first thing I noticed when I got the phone. the scrolling just isn't as smooth.
build.prop edits for droid x:
To enable better scrolling speed through lists, I changed
windowsmgr.max_events_per_sec=55
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windowsmgr.max_events_per_sec=60
Scrolling through the app drawer and contacts and any lists really is now smoother
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=771232
Very cool hopefully fix is implemented in are customs fast
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build.prop edits for droid x:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=771232
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Awesome, dude. Thanks a lot. Just did exactly what the post said, so I'll be testing this.
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i dont know if this will work for the evo. i dont really notice a difference using cm6. perhaps others will have better luck.
It's only been about ten minutes since my last post but I don't see a HUGE difference. IMO this isn't worth doing. I wonder if this problem will ever be fixed. Oh well.
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I cant find that windowsmgr.max_events_per_sec=55 in my build.prop file
Just received my Desire HD last night. At first it appeared ok. After a few hours of usage, the ram gradually drops and drops and drops.
At first it's around 390 or 420 free ram. After playing about for a few hours, the ram drops well below 200.
Even after using an app to free ram, it will free some more ram but will quickly use it all again for nothing.
Aside from this it's VERY laggy, much worse than my current HTC HD2.
It lags like crazy through the menu, not smooth at all and sometimes takes a few seconds to open something/go through the menu, it's like it will suddenly freeze completely and will not respond until it finally decides to wake up and continue what it was doing.
Worst of all is the picture gallery!! There are only around 17 pictures, 5 of them I took on the camera and the other pictures are sample pictures that came with the phone.
Now, when opening the gallery, it takes quite a while to display the pictures.
The pictures range from 500kb to around 1mb which is tiny and when opening pics in full size and going through them, it really struggles and lags, sometimes evening freezing for a few seconds before going to the next pic.
This is really bad and is pissing me off. My current HTC HD2 FLIES through pics without a lag.
I have pics ranging from a few kb to 5, 6 and even 7 mb and it's silky smooth and zooming in/out is effortless.
That said, why is my htc desire hd so laggy and performs so poorly?
What can be done to solve my issues?
It could very well be an app causing this but I doubt it as the apps I have installed onto the phone have also been used on my previous HTC Hero and Samsung Galaxy S.
Now, the HTC Desire HD is higher spec than the 2 above android phones but performs poorly.
Could someone PLEASE try to help me fix the lagging issues?
Apps on phone should it help:
KK Boxing Game
Air Hockey Game
Classic Tetris Game
File Manager App
Barcode Scanner
Vizbattery App
Uninstaller App
Rockplayer App
Beautiful Widgets App
Barcode Scanner App
Best Keyboard App
Mixzing Media Player App
Thanks in advance everyone
Go to settings applicactions development and turn on USB debug will fix all your probs, it is to do with the /init process using almost 90% CPU seems to be a system process
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Also bluetooth on seems to make the phone lag after a bit as well.
You haven't ever read why you sholdn't use any task killer on an android system?
e. g.: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=826647
The usb debugging solves it but still takes me ages for pics to load up on screen and I am slightly angry with its performance still.
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Someone reported the barcode scanner is eating quite a lot of the system resources. I think it was here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=819266 but don't flog me if it's not there! Although the uselessness of the task killer is explained there as well.
Thanks all for your reply. Thanks to many of you the lagging issue has been solved! As many of you mentioned the problem was the usb debugging mode. It was disabled and was causing extreme lag/slowness in everything, it was unbearable. The phone is now super smooth, fast and responsive. Going through pictures now is fantastic and at least 5-10 times quicker than before. Menus are also a lot smoother. Now my htc desire hd is quicker than my htc hd2! Once again many thanks for your help everyone.
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Thanks all for your reply. Thanks to many of you the lagging issue has been solved! As many of you mentioned the problem was the usb debugging mode. It was disabled and was causing extreme lag/slowness in everything, it was unbearable. The phone is now super smooth, fast and responsive. Going through pictures now is fantastic and at least 5-10 times quicker than before. Menus are also a lot smoother. Now my htc desire hd is quicker than my htc hd2! Once again many thanks for your help everyone.
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Music to my ears
Hi, first post here!
I was just wondering if anybody else has noticed a little bit of stuttering/lack of smoothness when doing certain things? For example, scrolling down Facebook is not smooth at all for me, Twitter is a lot better but still isn't perfectly smooth! I also notice a bit of stuttering in games such as Temple Run. Also when I go to the menu and scroll right, the first time it stutters a bit, but then will be perfectly smooth after that!
I'm unsure whether this is just the phone, or there is a problem with mine/something slowing it down? I might have just not noticed it when I first got the phone, but I am sure everything was perfectly smooth before.
I would say, yes... but you said "not smooth at all". Is this even after it has loaded pictures, posts, statuses, etc? Maybe a video of this in action or something could help out.
For now, I'm going to say yes, I have noticed stuttering. It is slight and it occurs because the phone and apps are not perfect.
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DecTaylor said:
Hi, first post here!
I was just wondering if anybody else has noticed a little bit of stuttering/lack of smoothness when doing certain things? For example, scrolling down Facebook is not smooth at all for me, Twitter is a lot better but still isn't perfectly smooth! I also notice a bit of stuttering in games such as Temple Run. Also when I go to the menu and scroll right, the first time it stutters a bit, but then will be perfectly smooth after that!
I'm unsure whether this is just the phone, or there is a problem with mine/something slowing it down? I might have just not noticed it when I first got the phone, but I am sure everything was perfectly smooth before.
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Ok, but please: Do not blame your phone for the badliest-programmed-app-on-the-whole-planet-ever, named Facebook.
Really mate... These are app issues and have nothing at all to so with the phone.
I titanium bu to freez the Facebook app. It uses memory and battery 24/7..I use the tabr app for fb and twitter.
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Problems with badly coded apps rather than the phone itself.
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Really mate... These are app issues and have nothing at all to so with the phone.
I titanium bu to freez the Facebook app. It uses memory and battery 24/7..
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Could these apps be effected the rest of the phone though? Like I said the menus can stutter sometimes, where they didn't before, and also scrolling down in everything single app has definitely lost the smoothness it had!
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Could these apps be effected the rest of the phone though? Like I said the menus can stutter sometimes, where they didn't before, and also scrolling down in everything single app has definitely lost the smoothness it had!
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I sometimes face this micro stuttering too on entering app center for the first time, entering and swiping the second time after the screen turned off doesn't stutter.
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Hey I just got my g2. Incredible phone, there is a learning curve however. I'm not quite used to the dimensions and button the back, but I have only been using it for a couple days so I'll give it t some time. The screen and camera are the best I've ever seen(not counting the nokia1020).
The biggest issue for me right now is performance. Switching in and out of apps and navigating apps is pretty choppy. Had this been 3 years ago the speed would be great but I'm comparing it to my galaxy s4 and iPhone 5 side by side and the scrolling on some web pages and apps is frustratingly slow. I was wondering if anyone is seeing the same kind of performance?
No, my phone is flying. No lags whatsoever. I would try a master reset and see if that helps.
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No, my phone is flying. No lags whatsoever. I would try a master reset and see if that helps.
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Same here, fastest Android phone I ever dealt with. Experience is better then N4, just with a load of junk... Cyanogenmod for us will make it better!
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Same here, fastest Android phone I ever dealt with. Experience is better then N4, just with a load of junk... Cyanogenmod for us will make it better!
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Since your coming from anexus 4, which was my favorite android phone besides the camera. How are you doing with the size difference? I have larger than average size hands and I have to bounce the phone around in my hand to reach things I need to press at the top of the screen. Never had that problem with the nexus or my gs4.
I'm coming from a N4 too (I'll get the phone the G2 this week) I'll miss vanilla, but the battery life, camera, and larger screen will MORE than make up for that with the G2.
do me a favor and try youtube, asphalt 8, riptide gp, etc etc. (heavy 3d games) everything is choppy for me but the choppiness is rhythmic for some odd reason
First off, what launcher are you using? I think alot of people that get lagged that are caused by a poorly written app, and assume its the phones fault. Only good way to tell will be factory reset, and run it that way a bit. All good then add ur apps back one at a time, testing it between apps, and that will pinpoint which app is the issue...
I've been getting some random gitter/lag with the ui as well, just tested in antutu got 30,000 then a second time got 26,000. Isn't the g2 supposed to get like 35k?
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Just so I could make a statement based on fact I downloaded Riptide GP 2 to see if I got any lag or stuttering, I played 2 races with no lag or slowdown. Then I went into the graphic settings but everything was already maxed out by default, I ended up playing for 20 more minutes and its a very fun game lol. So yep it just went thru the game like butter the way you would expect it to..