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[req] port usb host mode from nexus s

http://sven.killig.de/android/N1/2.2/usb_host
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=694427
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=885837
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=709135

here are some more resources from the vega for poops and giggles
http://android.modaco.com/content/a...-tun-ext4-slab-noop-wifi-ntfs-host-slave-0-7/
https://github.com/buglabs/android-froyo-kernel
http://code.google.com/p/adqmisc/source/browse/#svn/trunk/msm-hsusb
https://github.com/buglabs/android-froyo-kernel/blob/master/Documentation/applying-patches.txt

What else are you gonna plug in besides a keyboard, if I may ask.
cd's or tapes?

schnowdapowda said:
What else are you gonna plug in besides a keyboard, if I may ask.
cd's or tapes?
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Isn't it obvious?
Battlebots!
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the epic has a keyboard
this is purely for battlebots and the usb missile launcher
seriously...the main purpose i think everyone would use this for is usb hard drives
beyond that...it becomes involved driver development
but i'm sure there are plenty of people who would love to have audio/video interfaces for external pro equipment or something
how about connecting directly to a modem via usb
another big one in my mind would be printers
i'd love to be able to print updated materials at a job site easily
i know this is just a doorway to a megaload of driver development
but i'm sure there is much already done for other android devices supporting this feature already that could easily be ported

Wondering if there is a hardware issue....does the chip support usb host mode?

sorry if i'm reviving a dead thread, but i too am highly interested in this. i would really like being able to use usb flash drives, maybe connect a camera, or even more complex devices like optical drives or external hard drives. granted, a lot of that is software-side, but i don't see why it wouldn't be possible to mount the drive(s) as another usb device like the onboard microsd slot.
input? comments? anything?

Honestly speaking, USB Storage is probably the only benefit the common user could get out of this, since the drivers are generic.
Printers would require CUPS, which isn't easy to configure. Someone would have to make an APP. Not to mention there's an App on Amazon today that lets you print.
Webcams can be finicky, and may require more hands-on terminal manipulation.

i wasn't really thinking of webcams, i was thinking more along the lines of using my epic to edit/upload the videos i take with my flip minoHD. thanks for the quick reply!

Putting usb hub inside the TF

If you've ever opened up the TF, you'd very quickly realized that there's a lot of unused room in there. I found a 64gb flash drive from walmart for about $60 a piece. Got 3 of these. That gives me almost 200 GB.
I've been doodling with the idea of putting a usb hub inside the TF and then solder these flash drives onto it. Making room for the whole setup is no problem. Like I said, there's a lot of unused space in there. The problem is I don't know how to connect a usb hub inside there for the tablet to recognize it. Any idea guys?

goodintentions said:
If you've ever opened up the TF, you'd very quickly realized that there's a lot of unused room in there. I found a 64gb flash drive from walmart for about $60 a piece. Got 3 of these. That gives me almost 200 GB.
I've been dooling with the idea of putting a usb hub inside the TF and then solder these flash drives onto it. Making room for the whole setup is no problem. Like I said, there's a lot of unused space in there. The problem is I don't know how to connect a usb hub inside there for the tablet to recognize it. Any idea guys?
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i have a similar project in the works. i just wonder if we have a limit as to what size (storage) usb drive we use i want to try a usb powered 1tb hard drive...the possibilities would be endless.
one other idea i have no clue of how and if possible. but you know the EXT.(as internal) SD mod, what if we could find a way to do that with the usb storage.think of 1tb of storage("internally")!!!!!!

kevhuff said:
i have a similar project in the works. i just wonder if we have a limit as to what size (storage) usb drive we use i want to try a usb powered 1tb hard drive...the possibilities would be endless.
one other idea i have no clue of how and if possible. but you know the EXT.(as internal) SD mod, what if we could find a way to do that with the usb storage.think of 1tb of storage("internally")!!!!!!
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I've already done what you're talking about. I've already put 500gb, 750gb, and 1T HDD into the docking station while keeping the batteries.
What I'm talking about is putting flash drives inside the TF itself, not the dock.

yeh but im taking the dock apart and putting it inside like you are saying inside the tab that would better i think you idea is better.
i think both in conjunction would be insane!

kevhuff said:
yeh but im taking the dock apart and putting it inside like you are saying inside the tab that would better i think you idea is better.
i think both in conjunction would be insane!
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http://www.androidauthority.com/talented-modder-crams-500gb-hard-drive-into-asus-transformer-25981/

Love the dock mod but the images isnt working in the thread
But getting the TF to recognize the usb hub should be that complicated.
You'd probably need the usb host adapter (or make one yourself, if possible, idk).
Then it should just be a matter of soldering the adapter to the correct pins on the docking connector.
You might need a switch of some sort to tell the TF when to be host and when to be slave.
I dont own the usb host adapter myself yet, so Im not sure how the TF acts with the adapter connected.
Maybe its still possible to charge and sync even though the adapter is connected.

Goodintentions your the man you beat me to it ill post some pics when I get myne done

kevhuff said:
Goodintentions your the man you beat me to it ill post some pics when I get myne done
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OMG, you're going to be like apple aren't you? You're going to get a pattent for it and then you're going to sue me...

you couldnt pay me enough to be anything like Crapple not a fan of the mainstream overated Os's/products

kevhuff said:
you couldnt pay me enough to be anything like Crapple not a fan of the mainstream overated Os's/products
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Haha, we'll see.
I've figured out a way to solder in a usb board and connect a hub to it to add those 128gb flash drives. After spending all night going through the plans, I'm abandoning the thought of putting it into the TF itself. I'll be putting those flash drives into the keyboard dock, though. Solid state drives are certainly much better than the spin discs. Let's see, 128gb x 4 = 512gb of flash drive space... won't suck up my battery much and aren't prone to damage due to movement like the HDD.
Stay tuned for the result!

goodintentions said:
Haha, we'll see.
I've figured out a way to solder in a usb board and connect a hub to it to add those 128gb flash drives. After spending all night going through the plans, I'm abandoning the thought of putting it into the TF itself. I'll be putting those flash drives into the keyboard dock, though. Solid state drives are certainly much better than the spin discs. Let's see, 128gb x 4 = 512gb of flash drive space... won't suck up my battery much and aren't prone to damage due to movement like the HDD.
Stay tuned for the result!
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Man, you have balls modding out your dock like that I was impressed with your first dock mod of sticking that 500GB hard drive in it. Did you ever go back to that idea with doubling the battery life in the dock? I recall following that thread reading your updates and you got to a point where you said screw it.

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Man, you have balls modding out your dock like that I was impressed with your first dock mod of sticking that 500GB hard drive in it. Did you ever go back to that idea with doubling the battery life in the dock? I recall following that thread reading your updates and you got to a point where you said screw it.
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Without people like me who like to push things to their limits, we'd still be writing with hammer and chisel on stone.

There's 2 questions that come to mind.
1) Will any of the USB ports support a USB hub? I seem to remember there being some issues with this, but I honestly can't remember anymore...
2) Will you lose the use of 1 of the USB ports on the tablet?
I'm inclined to say that most likely 2 will happen, unless you're very VERY good at modifying the boards and don't mind cutting trace, possibly. If I knew I could afford another keyboard dock, I'd be doing this right now. Sadly, I can't. =/
EDIT:Well, in a quick check with my ****ty USB hub, it didn't like any of my USB sticks, then saw 1 of them but none of the files on it, then just kept showing that 1 stick no matter what I put in it. I'm rebooting, but I'm kinda thinking it doesn't like the USB hub I have, or doesnt' support them?
EDIT2: Seems that it only lets me see 1 USB drive at a time. No matter what I did (outside of using the port on the other side). I kinda think either my USB Hub isn't working well (works fine on my PC) with the TF, or it just doesn't support it for some reason. Or more to the point, it seems it only supports 1 USB disk drive per USB port on the dock. If I put 1 drive in each port I get USBdisk1 and USBdisk2. Perhaps it's an OS issue or a TF issue in some way as far as software? One would think you could get more than 1 USB disk on each port though.

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goodintentions said:
Without people like me who like to push things to their limits, we'd still be writing with hammer and chisel on stone.
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So true. And without Android...we would probably be using a single core under 1Ghz. I still remember people saying "why do you need that much power?" Then..."who needs dual cores"...now..."quad core? Forget about it!" Hahahaha

darkhawkff said:
There's 2 questions that come to mind.
1) Will any of the USB ports support a USB hub? I seem to remember there being some issues with this, but I honestly can't remember anymore...
2) Will you lose the use of 1 of the USB ports on the tablet?
I'm inclined to say that most likely 2 will happen, unless you're very VERY good at modifying the boards and don't mind cutting trace, possibly. If I knew I could afford another keyboard dock, I'd be doing this right now. Sadly, I can't. =/
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You really ought to read my hard mod thread. All of this has been discussed very thoroughly there. 2 Will happen. So what? There's 2 usb slots. Lose a usb slot to trade for 500gb storage space.
But that's why I put in a switch to turn on and off the hard drive. When the hard drive is off, the usb is usable.

goodintentions said:
You really ought to read my hard mod thread. All of this has been discussed very thoroughly there. 2 Will happen. So what? There's 2 usb slots. Lose a usb slot to trade for 500gb storage space.
But that's why I put in a switch to turn on and off the hard drive. When the hard drive is off, the usb is usable.
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I did read your thread...you probably don't remember me asking similar questions before
Honestly though, read the few edits I put above....I kinda think this won't work the way you want it to...seems to be some kind of strange software issue in regards to USBdisk's, for some reason.
EDIT:I guess it COULD work, if you could mount them somehow. I'm not sure how the addressing and such works, and honestly my linux knowledge isn't what it used to be. I guess what I'm saying is it could be done, I'm just not personally sure how in software. If you figure it out though, let me know. I'm sure I'd be interested.

Any chance you could reupload the images for your HDD mod?
Shame you abandoned the idea of putting the hub inside the TF, that wouldve been very interesting.

Nexus 7 Hardware mod to add storage

I was thinking about the Nexus 7 storage issue, what with not having a microSD slot and 16gb being the max, and I was wondering; would it be possible to compile android for the Nexus 7 onto a 64gb SD card, pry open the Nexus, and replace the one in it with the 64gb SD card slot with Android? I'm not into hardware modding, so I don't know if this is even possible, but if it is, I think it'd be great.
Also, yes, I know there's a microUSB slot and developers will add USB host support and all that, but I'm talking about the microSD slot, not microUSB.
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Unless I missed something, the memory inside the device is not a Micro SD slot. It's most likely memory soldered on to the mainboard.

Aaah... I see. Well, that's a shame... So definitely no way to do this then?

There's a few teardown pics over at iFixit. The flash is a surface - mount flash chip from Kingston, not an internal SD card slot or anything like that. If you had, like, supernatural skills with a soldering iron, maybe you could remove it and solder in Kingston 's 32GB eMMC chip and it might work? Most likely you'd destroy the tablet. I've been soldering for years and I wouldn't try it.
If sales are strong someone will probably make a case that provides storage on the USB port without an ugly dangling drive. Or you could just upload all your music to Google and stream it.

Not possible, I also don't think it's worth the hassle.... just forget about the Nexus 7 and go buy a tablet with more storage!

Got it, thanks. Well, good thing I use google music then, so it shouldn't be an issue. Thanks for the info!

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baldeagle76 said:
I was thinking about the Nexus 7 storage issue, what with not having a microSD slot and 16gb being the max, and I was wondering; would it be possible to compile android for the Nexus 7 onto a 64gb SD card, pry open the Nexus, and replace the one in it with the 64gb SD card slot with Android? I'm not into hardware modding, so I don't know if this is even possible, but if it is, I think it'd be great.
Also, yes, I know there's a microUSB slot and developers will add USB host support and all that, but I'm talking about the microSD slot, not microUSB.
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There is a way by using the usb host functionality. But "replacing" the existing flash isn't a practical option I believe..
I really can't afford screwing up my nexus (I haven't even received it yet!), but soldering a usb memory card reader chip to the usb connector would be an effective way of adding external storage with minimal to no drawbacks while possibly keeping it inside the case.
I really don't understand why google didn't include a slot.. I hope it wasn't a decision from the design department because if so they could avoid everyone being pissed at this.
If you don't want (and I am shure you don't) the hassle of picking up a soldering iron and cutting your nexus you can just buy an OTG usb cable and connect any external hardware/usb stick to the nexus 7.

serjts said:
I really don't understand why google didn't include a slot..
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From Google:
We got tired of seeing OEMs include many GB of internal storage for music, while users were still running out of space for apps and data. This approach lets us merge everything on one volume, which is way better.
– Dan Morrill, Android engineer at Google
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That said, it doesn't explain why they didn't add 16GB internal storage AND an SD slot.
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Seeing that the Nexus 7 is the Asus Memo ME370T, and the ME370T was reported as having an SD card, before the Nexus 7 took its place, it's likely that the SD slot solder pads are on the device somewhere. Perhaps J1? CON3 was likely for the rear facing camera the Nexus 7 lacks.

Google drive. $4.99 a month for 100gb. That's why they didn't include it. It's a really good deal though, and it works great. Plus, your HDD won't take a sudden crap after two years(like my 1tb Seagate drive did).
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jdyowa said:
Google drive [...] and it works great.
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Until you're on an international flight and don't have access to it, or didn't/couldn't download before you boarded....

Yeah, not everyone has a constant fast wireless connection to use in all situations.

There is a guy on eBay selling the first 80GB Nexus 7 he claims to have added a 64GB micro sd card to it....he doesnt show any pictures so do you think its just hanging off the bottom? Or is there a way to add it internally? eBay item # 140821188316

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Yeah, not everyone has a constant fast wireless connection to use in all situations.
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I use Google Drive and puush for minor backups, but I can't imagine using anywhere near 5GB of the free space I get, especially on my low-speed DSL connection :/

neverlift said:
There is a guy on eBay selling the first 80GB Nexus 7 he claims to have added a 64GB micro sd card to it....he doesnt show any pictures so do you think its just hanging off the bottom? Or is there a way to add it internally? eBay item # 140821188316
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Did you read the description...?
It is the 16GB model with a tiny little 64GB USB flash drive (brand name, probably Patriot). Handling time is 1 day if you dont want me to root and mod it. The 64GB flash drive however will not work with the device if it is not rooted, and will simply be bundled alongside.
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Don't even consider modifying the hardware. SMT is not for the casual hacker.
If USB storage does not work for you, and you really need more storage - the Nexus 7 is the wrong device for you.

Never add micro sdcard
I have ME370t schematic,
Real J1
In design schematic
it 's just debug connector !
No microSD card Interface
So we have no way to mod microsd card :crying::crying:

tuananh15986 said:
I have ME370t schematic,
Real J1
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In design schematic
it 's just debug connector !
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No microSD card Interface
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So we have no way to mod microsd card :crying::crying:
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Interesting. Shame about the SD pins not coming out to test points or pads. Debug UART on J1 is interesting though.
Do you have the rest of the schematic? If so, can you make it available?

Hey guise.
Not that this is an internal mod, but it's kinda close.
I took a sandisk cruzer fit, disassembled, removed the flash chip/pcb, and soldered a male microsub onto it, along with the OTG mod.
The small size makes it light, less likely to snag/snap, and ultra portable. Would fit in your wallet or perhaps in a nexus folio with some work.
I posted it on reddit r/nexus7 and the response was nil, even though I've seen people ask for solutions a million times there.
Anyways, pics. I can't post a link to imgur yet per forum rules since I'm a n00b - but I'll leave it up to your imagination how to complete this l i n k. Someone else can reply with the pics so they're in the thread, fine by me.
imgur dot com /a/iTsAU

Hey guys
I ordered the OTG cable for my N7 but i also explored the fact it's very possible to Solder a storage inside the device specially there's a lot a free room for it .
i added a screen shot from tear down on Ifix it.
what you need for this project:
N7
32 GB usb
motherboard cable type very slim connection
solder gun
Iron
Please don't do this if you not an expert in soldering its very tiny area
make sure to remove the speaker before you start
i added a screenshot on how the cable has to be soldered
all what needed is solder the cable to the storage card could be USB or SD but has its connector
and solder it to the micro USB input as per the picture.

*edit - pic shows up now, sorry
very cool marakji.
Personally I may use the extra space inside the nex to install an inductive charger/touchstone, since extra storage is something mostly useful when travelling. carrying the little microusb drive to store/playback that media is easy enough. But easier charging is useful every day.

OTG cable work with Nexus 10? What's a good one? Thx

Anyone have a link to a good cable? And will and USB flash drive work with it?
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darkstar765 said:
Anyone have a link to a good cable? And will and USB flash drive work with it?
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Would also like to know if you can use USB2GO with the nexus...

Any OTG cable will work.. don't pay $20 for a cable that is only worth $1.. unless you're buying like 5 or more in a pack.. Amazon got some good ones for like a dollar and they ship from the States
Also the kernel will have to support USB host for OTG to work.. not sure if the stock kernel does

So do external storages work, unrooted?

If you don't root you can get an app that lets you view,down load or stream video files or documents from stick drives or card readers.It does not allow you to write to the cards however.It works great for those things.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.homeysoft.nexususb.importer
There is a free version that only does photos.I suggest using it first to test and see how you like it.The above version is a $3 app so make sure the free one works before buying the other. jmo
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...iwiY29tLmhvbWV5c29mdC5uZXh1c3VzYi52aWV3ZXIiXQ..
If you need to write to a card you will have to be rooted and wait for them to iron out the multi-user problems with the 4.2 update before the stick-mount app will work again.It is broken at present but once working again will require root to mount the sd card so files can be transferred via a file explorer app to the sd card.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.stickmount

Does it have enough power for a usb hard disk?
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It seems that CIFS is also an issue with 4.2 ... Google must REALLY want us using Play to seemingly block the CRAP out of doing any R/W to external sources.
Of course it could just be a "side effect" of the new Google "security feature" that locks USB access to the process that spawned it.
I want to know how the Nexus Media app is getting away with it. Maybe it's because everything is IN the app - so the USB access continues to work.
I dunno ... all I DO know is that my Nexus 7 is staying on 4.1.2 until it's fixed.

Tried with the one I have from the galaxy s3 and it was not recognized. The sgs3 is rooted stock. When I plug it into the galaxy, it immediately sees the USB host connected
Edit- tried it with a USB mouse and it worked fine
Kevin

I would like to know more information about this matter too. I'm really new to otg stuff, but I do know that you need to be rooted un the nexus 7 for it to work fine.

I think it needs to be rooted to use USB OTG. i have a 2$ USB OTG working fine with my unrooted S3 but on the nexus 10 it won't regconize.

Just tested it with a 5 bucks OTG, so far:
Mouse razor naga: OK.
USB keyboard microsoft: OK.
Pendrive Kingston 4gb: nothing happens.
For me it's ok I just wanted to use it for the keyboard. No problem at all.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1994299

This is a good OTG cable. Works on anything that supports OTG. Lifetime warranty, good price, super fast shipping. I have a few and use them on all my devices.
http://www.amazon.com/Electronics-Micro-USB-OTG-Cable/dp/B005GGBYJ4
Enjoy! Happy Holidays all!!

+1 on that cable. Like the angle & not too short or long. Nice & sturdy.
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I'm looking for a OTG cable/adapter in the UK and wanted to whether mini USB OTG adapter will work with flash drives and external drives, or do I an micro USB OTG adapter? What's the difference?

Bought this one and it works but I wouldn't recommend it because the male end that goes into the Nexus10 is a little too long and creates a loose connection. I'm gonna order another type tonight.
Stickmount works great on my rooted nexus10.
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=300803544652

I have a otg cable that works fine on my S3 but I plug it into the nexus and I get nothing. The S3 auto detects the cable alone but nothing at all happens when I plug it into the nexus no matter what, if anything, is plugged into it. I just want to use it for mouse and keyboard.
Think I should buy another cable to try out or am I missing something?

A cheap OTG cable that came bundled with a $60 tablet my mom ordered works on my Nexus 10.
On an unrelated note, Samsung should of bundled a USB OTG cable.

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faulkton said:
I have a otg cable that works fine on my S3 but I plug it into the nexus and I get nothing. The S3 auto detects the cable alone but nothing at all happens when I plug it into the nexus no matter what, if anything, is plugged into it. I just want to use it for mouse and keyboard.
Think I should buy another cable to try out or am I missing something?
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Just install nexus importer on Google play. Nexus doesn't natively support usb otg like s3
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AspenMan said:
This is a good OTG cable. Works on anything that supports OTG. Lifetime warranty, good price, super fast shipping. I have a few and use them on all my devices.
http://www.amazon.com/Electronics-Micro-USB-OTG-Cable/dp/B005GGBYJ4
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DO NOT GET THIS ONE!
I have the same one and it completely blocks the headphone port which is right under the micro-usb port. The micro-usb plugs in with the flat part facing you / the screen so this one would obviously angle down and over the headphone port. Find one that is either straight or angles the other way.

Questions before buying N10

I'm going to get a Nexus 10 soon but first some questions.
- Does USB OTG work? I want to connect mice, keyboards, USB flash drives, and Xbox 360 controllers. Do all of those work?
- Overall impressions of the device? Recommend it?
- How bad is the app ecosystem? Do phone apps look really ugly on the tablet?
-How is battery?
-Is there a good stand, dock, or case that's recommended?
Please help me out. Thanks.

- Does USB OTG work? I want to connect mice, keyboards, USB flash drives, and Xbox 360 controllers. Do all of those work?
It works but you may need root for certain things although I don't think a mouse would work as it is a touch device.
- Overall impressions of the device? Recommend it?
Love it, far better than any Android tablet at the moment.
- How bad is the app ecosystem? Do phone apps look really ugly on the tablet?
A lot of apps have been improved and look better than before but not all, although I haven't found any apps that look horrendous.
-How is battery?
I find the battery is awesome, also a custom kernel/ROM can have a big impact on it.
-Is there a good stand, dock, or case that's recommended?
I use the poetic slimline case, there have been some issues with it not fitting properly but mine is fine, not sure about docks/stands

leeznon said:
I'm going to get a Nexus 10 soon but first some questions.
- Does USB OTG work? I want to connect mice, keyboards, USB flash drives, and Xbox 360 controllers. Do all of those work?
I use the usb otg cable and a four port usb hub. Keyboard and mouse are just plug and play. Which is the case for all the android devices I've owned. I've been rooted since the moment I bought it so I'm not sure if you need root for thumb drives.
- Overall impressions of the device? Recommend it?
I personally love the device. I had a Asus Tf101 before and this is a far better product.
- How bad is the app ecosystem? Do phone apps look really ugly on the tablet?
The apps are improving quite well and even the few non tablet apps that I use don't look horrible. Not sure if you can see the online play store in your location but if you can there is a tablet filter that can give you a better idea of the available apps.
-How is battery?
For the most part I use my at home after work. I find that it can easily last me three days.
-Is there a good stand, dock, or case that's recommended?
I have the iblason black faux leather case and the brown suede bear motion case off of Amazon. I'm finding now this i prefer the iblason which is about 18.00 on amazon.
Please help me out. Thanks.
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All said, except the case. There are plenty of options, I recommend you the moko.

- Does USB OTG work? I want to connect mice, keyboards, USB flash drives, and Xbox 360 controllers. Do all of those work?
Haven`t tried personally yet. My usb OTG is on the way
- Overall impressions of the device? Recommend it?
I personally recommend it, based on it`s specs, it`s still the best bang for the buck. But it also greatly depend on your needs from a tablet device.
- How bad is the app ecosystem? Do phone apps look really ugly on the tablet?
Given the high resolution screen, yes some app do look blurry or pixelated if not optimized for tablet. For me, i can live with it, we will get more and more tablet optimized apps for sure.
-How is battery?
Great battery life although below my expectations. It might be due to the device processing a high resolution panel.
-Is there a good stand, dock, or case that's recommended?
unfortunately no stand or dock at the moment from google. but the cases do make it stand. Just get a case that suit your needs.

Thanks for all the answers. Anyone else?

The stock unrooted firmware doesn't mount usb thumb drives when connected with OTG. The "Nexus Media Importer" app from the play store provides a smooth workaround for that, well worth the 3 or 4 USD I paid for it.

oysteivi said:
The stock unrooted firmware doesn't mount usb thumb drives when connected with OTG. The "Nexus Media Importer" app from the play store provides a smooth workaround for that, well worth the 3 or 4 USD I paid for it.
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Thanks for the heads up.
If I'm rooted, will work without needing the "Nexus Media Importer" app?

leeznon said:
I'm going to get a Nexus 10 soon but first some questions.
- Does USB OTG work? I want to connect mice, keyboards, USB flash drives, and Xbox 360 controllers. Do all of those work?
- Overall impressions of the device? Recommend it?
- How bad is the app ecosystem? Do phone apps look really ugly on the tablet?
-How is battery?
-Is there a good stand, dock, or case that's recommended?
Please help me out. Thanks.
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You may wish to consider an Asus TF700. For example, I have the integrated keyboard, an USB non-powered hub, a laser printer (hooked to the USB hub), Bluetooth speaker (powered by the hub), multiple USB hard storage devices (for moving large volumes of data such as movies between devices), a microhd 32 GB card (up to 128 GB possible), in addition to a regular SD card. Shortly I will add an USB ethernet adapter for additional speed when using it at my desk. All of this is with the stock configuration and is well integrated into the tablet experience. The TF700 may not be as fast as the Nexus 10- but I have found the speed very good with the optimal mix of apps. My impression is that the TF700 is a more versatile device if you need multiple storage/connectivity options ala a netbook and find the Android OS suitable for your needs.
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leeznon said:
Thanks for the heads up.
If I'm rooted, will work without needing the "Nexus Media Importer" app?
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When rooted, you can use the free StickMount app.
Some custom roms may mount USB sticks for you automatically, but I haven't experimented with this.

Dontvbe worried about software ... There are very inteligent developers outhere that work for this device . eventualy all the software problems will be resolved . be worried about the problematic hardware side and how to be able to return the product more faster process problems free .
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oysteivi said:
When rooted, you can use the free StickMount app.
Some custom roms may mount USB sticks for you automatically, but I haven't experimented with this.
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I had problems with Stickmount (can't recall what now). I've been using 'USB OTG Helper' which is a great app. As for how phone apps look: it's not that most of them look bad; they're just not optimized to take advantage of the extra screen real estate. But I'm finding more and more of my favorite apps have a separate tablet version, or install a tablet-optimized one if a tablet is detected.
I also recommend the Moko Slim-Fit leather case (Amazon). Very well made.
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ljg600 said:
You may wish to consider an Asus TF700. For example, I have the integrated keyboard, an USB non-powered hub, a laser printer (hooked to the USB hub), Bluetooth speaker (powered by the hub), multiple USB hard storage devices (for moving large volumes of data such as movies between devices), a microhd 32 GB card (up to 128 GB possible), in addition to a regular SD card. Shortly I will add an USB ethernet adapter for additional speed when using it at my desk. All of this is with the stock configuration and is well integrated into the tablet experience. The TF700 may not be as fast as the Nexus 10- but I have found the speed very good with the optimal mix of apps. My impression is that the TF700 is a more versatile device if you need multiple storage/connectivity options ala a netbook and find the Android OS suitable for your needs.
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The reason why I'm not considering the transformer is because it isn't running stock Android. And I'm not sure how the dev community is for it. Plus it's almost a year old and a new ones coming out soon, I don't know if I can wait.

leeznon said:
The reason why I'm not considering the transformer is because it isn't running stock Android. And I'm not sure how the dev community is for it. Plus it's almost a year old and a new ones coming out soon, I don't know if I can wait.
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The Asus Transformer series is comparatively minimalist with regards to Android customization versus other brands- though bloatware is an issue. There is quite a bit of 3rd party developer support. TF Android stock and custom updates have been prompt- though I am encouraged that Asus was cautious with 4.2. Of course, newer models will offer better performance- and where the need is not critical- it might be better to wait. Again, the hybrid market seems to be in rapid transition and the Transformer series is hardly the only option- for example, Windows 8 hybrids from Asus, Lenovo and others. I only made the suggestion because you focused on expandability- not a core strength of the Nexus 10. But the Nexus 10 has a lot of other strengths- though it to will probably have a faster replacement or hardware refresh soon...
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Thanks for the input, but I just ordered the N10.

Sorry for re-opening an old thread, but it seemed relevant to my situation.
Hi guys, finally decided to take the plunge and shell out for a Nexus 10. This will be my first tablet purchase, so naturally I want it to go as smoothly as possible.
Although a lot of what I've read from purchasers here seem to suggest it's anything but a smooth process with Google. I've terrified myself half to death with some of the stories here. I should probably also mention that I've never had to RMA any device before, but I'm almost fully committed to the fact that I'll have to with this, after all I've read about it.
So. What are the main problems are that people have experienced, which required RMAs and are they still present in the newer batches, seeing as it's almost 6mths old now?
I've looked around these forums for the past half week and found what I believe to be a fairly conclusive list and their possible resolutions. Is there anything else beyond this list I should be watching out for?
RMA for sure
- battery issues - less than 6hrs
- faulty usb/hdmi socket
- constant wifi drop
- speakers buzz
- no sound via hdmi
- crap stuck under screen
- loose to touch/clicky camera lens
- light bleeding (only RMA if excessive)
SOFTWARE UPDATE
- constant restarts with stock rom
BEARABLE WITH CASE
- creaky back cover
Also, is it easier to return to Google or Samsung should I need to RMA?
Thanks in advice for any advice guys.

Damn I'm lucky. Not one problem with my nexus 7 well the wife's now that I went and got a 10. And not a problem with my 10. And I picked my 10 up from a guy on craigslist for 375 for a 32gb.
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leeznon said:
Thanks for the input, but I just ordered the N10.
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You receive?
Can you tell me the first 3 characters of your serial number please? Trying to see if they are on third batch yet

SayWhat10 said:
You receive?
Can you tell me the first 3 characters of your serial number please? Trying to see if they are on third batch yet
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Well mine just arrived 20 minutes ago. So far none of the issues I've seen around these forums. No creaky back. No creaky camera lens. No crap under the screen. It's on charge at the moment, so I can't check the other things like light bleed etc.
Oh and for reference it's an R32D model if that helps anyone. I'm in the UK too, for anyone questioning if UK is getting new or old stock.

theta_sigma2 said:
Well mine just arrived 20 minutes ago. So far none of the issues I've seen around these forums. No creaky back. No creaky camera lens. No crap under the screen. It's on charge at the moment, so I can't check the other things like light bleed etc.
Oh and for reference it's an R32D model if that helps anyone. I'm in the UK too, for anyone questioning if UK is getting new or old stock.
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Thanks for info
Let us know if you have any reboot issues, and if so, check your surface flinger values