Anyone else worrying about the web browsing experience? - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I've got a galaxy note running Samsung's leaked jb ROM. It's dam quick, and web browsing is enjoyable with the stock browser but no way near as fluid and quick with chrome.
Considering this I'm worried the n4 will be lumbered with a browser (chrome) that is already behind the stock android browser. Dolphin beta it's pretty quick but no flash.
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Stock "Internet" and "Browser" are around somewhere. AOSP browsers are easily installed if you don't like the Chrome browser.

I think flash player support being dropped from android is going to be a bigger concern than the browser IMO. Although the last flash player still works with JB, eventually something will changed in android firmware updates that breaks it.

Firefox ?

shure2 said:
I've got a galaxy note running Samsung's leaked jb ROM. It's dam quick, and web browsing is enjoyable with the stock browser but no way near as fluid and quick with chrome.
Considering this I'm worried the n4 will be lumbered with a browser (chrome) that is already behind the stock android browser. Dolphin beta it's pretty quick but no flash.
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It's very possible that Chrome is weak because you are running a leaked JB rom.
I've run Chrome on my EVO 3D (with CM9), Asus Transformer (CM9), HP TouchPad (CM9) and HTC One S (CM10) and it runs perfectly. Fluid. Quick. Feature filled.
Also, it is not behind the stock Android browser. Now Chrome IS the stock Android browser as far as Google is concerned.

I agree, on my Nexus 7, Chrome was very smooth. On any other device that hadn't an official ROM, it was crap.

Chrome sucks on every device including the nexus 7 I am sending this from. It is so laggy and not 60 fps by any means. I hear there is an update coming soon though to make it better.
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We can't be sure of anything until we get 4.2. Off topic: How long do you think they'll support the N7 with updates?

CJHolderUK said:
We can't be sure of anything until we get 4.2. Off topic: How long do you think they'll support the N7 with updates?
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As long as the hardware can handle it.
The Nexus S (512mb RAM, single core) has 4.1.1, so i reckon a long time!

theoneofgod said:
As long as the hardware can handle it.
The Nexus S (512mb RAM, single core) has 4.1.1, so i reckon a long time!
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No reason not too, after all how hard is it to update stock android? It doesn't have a skin or anything to update.

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Chrome browser available..in beta

www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2012/02/chrome-android/
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Only good with ICS.
baseballfanz said:
Only good with ICS.
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Yes i know but wanted ppl with the 4.0 port to try it out for us.. Also wanted ppl to know about it since we getting 4.0 soon.
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just downloaded it for my phone.. im getting force closes tho
mafo5000 said:
just downloaded it for my phone.. im getting force closes tho
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You running ICS on your phone?
Used it on OG Transformer with paulburton's ICS ROM. The browser is pretty smooth, and looks just like the pc chrome browser.
I don't have enough posts to link to the file, but it should be pretty easy to find the apk by now.
i tried it on Sensation
its pretty sweet
we need ICS for TF101 now!
Does Chrome for Android have all the same security and privacy issues that Chrome for desktop has?
If it does, i'm sticking with Opera.
Google and Adobe won't support flash for Chrome on Android
Which is either good or bad depending on you.
I use Flash for live video so I don't like this decision. It's a good option to have, you can always opt to not install it
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You running ICS on your phone?
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Im running cm9 on my Samsung captivate. Chrome force closes tho.
I've tried this on my G2 running ics and its great man really fast ans smooth
It looked really smooth on a Nexus.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uys0o1ZBDAs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d33zwNZG1Qg
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Im running cm9 on my Samsung captivate. Chrome force closes tho.
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Same thing happened to me. Try moving some apps to the sdcard, that worked for me.
Its slow when loading a link from an app. The chrome browser loads up instantly but doesn't start loading the page for a while.
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chewitard said:
Same thing happened to me. Try moving some apps to the sdcard, that worked for me.
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Running TeamHackSungs ICS build 15 on my cappy and its fine no fc's and smoooooth as butter
I love Chrome browser . I've being waiting for this since... well since Android 1st came out
But i'm going to wait for the official ICS for the TF101 before i try it.
I just hope that is not a RAM devourer app
Works great on my Rezound with 4.0.1! This browser is sweet! I would totally dump the stock browser for this anyday, but I kinda wished they kept the darker gray theme rather than going back to light gray..
The tabs sharing with the desktop Chrome is F-ing Awesome! Like what Chrome2Phone should have been all along!
No Flash in Chrome for now. Adobe say they won't support it but hopefully Google will adapt it later.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/02/08/flash_chrome/
Where be the tab stack? Do we lose that, another Tablet sacrifice?
Fairly stable for me. The only crash I had was with something like 7-8 tabs open (all XDA Prime forums, plus a few chrome blogs, LOL! I like it. A LOT! And typically I am hard to please, especially where browsers are concerned. There are way to many Android browsers out there that are acceptable, but not outstanding. Each has their own little tweaks and claim to fame, but under the hood they are ridiculousy similar. Let's see, I have had on my Prime, at one point or another:
Stock. - Works well. So well it bores me, LOL
ICS+ - A nice set of enhancements. I use it more than the stock webkit browser
Dolphin and Dolphin HD - I like, don't love it. A bit TOO slick, and some things frustrate me. It will be better when the HD catches up to the small screen version, I think
Opera Mini and Opera Mobile - What can I say. 2 solid browsers here. Mobile is a keeper. [
boat browser - Not imopressed, other than speed, it was buggy. removed.
Skyfire - I LOVED this one on my phone in early releases it was amazing. When Skyfire decided t charge me to see flash, I decided to cut them lose. Too many alternatives. It's not THAT great.
Firefox - a HUGE let down, but everyone expected magic here. Didn't materialize.
Maxthon. Very cool new browser.Jury still out on this one.
That's right off the top of my head.
Anyone know how to make the tab "Stack" appear in chrome, or is that only in the phone version, because we have the real estate to see the tabs. If so I am disappointed. That was chromes one big trick pony, and I was excited to try it. So far I can't see the button in top left to enable them, just a new tab button. Anyone?
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Only good with ICS.
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Just another reason Asus need to pull their finger out, and stop sitting on the ICS update.

New Firefox Beta worth trying

The new Firefox beta is quite impressive; it's way better than the crap they released to the play store and I thought I'd share. Enjoy.
http://nightly.mozilla.org/
Agreed, give it a try. It's pretty darned good.
Still really slow in comparison to Opera Mobile, and the Firefox rendering is flakey at times.
No real reason to use Firefox on Android right now when Opera is offering Opera Mobile.
CrazyPeter said:
Still really slow in comparison to Opera Mobile, and the Firefox rendering is flakey at times.
No real reason to use Firefox on Android right now when Opera is offering Opera Mobile.
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For me, Opera Mobile is actually slower than the latest Firefox nightly. With the bookmark sync, it's sweet, fast and useful. Scrolling is far smoother than the stock browser, too. It's pretty much what I've been waiting for Firefox to do. Quick controls aside (I will miss them), I think I can finally get away from the stock browser for a lot of things now.
this is much better then previous version. scrolling is pretty smooth. can't wait for final version
I'll give it a try simply for the fact that it is open source.
It's pretty good, although it's not available in the market/play. Download from mozilla http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/channel/
I've been using Dolphin browser on android for a few years, and this might be a replacement.
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Is there any way to get Firefox not to force mobile versions of websites even when you go to the normal site link? I don't see anything in the very limited settings.
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Is there any way to get Firefox not to force mobile versions of websites even when you go to the normal site link? I don't see anything in the very limited settings.
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The nightly has a setting to request the desktop site. It's not in the beta version.
FYI, there are a few versions: nightly, Aurora, beta, stable. Nightly is the bleeding tip of the sword, Aurora is the pre-beta, and so forth. You can have all versions installed seperately and they don't overwrite each other.
I downloaded a few, and these are the versin numbers I have now:
beta 14.0
aurora 15.0.a2
nightly 16.0a1
I'm sure it would help the devs out if you ran one of the non-stable versions and turned on the performance tracking.
I just noticed that the nightlies have their own link (see OP), and the more stable versions have a link (posted a few posts back)
It is slow and still isn't touch friendly. All the controls are at the top like a desktop application. The "tab" hack is pretty horrible.
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latest nightly now has appstore
just lou said:
Is there any way to get Firefox not to force mobile versions of websites even when you go to the normal site link? I don't see anything in the very limited settings.
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Update- there is an add on called phony that will spoof your browser headers. Seems to work OK.
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how do you get tablet ui to work?
CrazyPeter said:
Still really slow in comparison to Opera Mobile, and the Firefox rendering is flakey at times.
No real reason to use Firefox on Android right now when Opera is offering Opera Mobile.
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I have yet to see a browser on an android tablet establish the key 30fps stable...the stock browser is beset, with chrome a distant second, and dolphin behind it.
Firefox was by far the worst junk I've ever installed on my tablet. I sure hope they've made improvements, because honestly, I liked the tab management better than all the other browsers on offer.
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+1
Nightly is really nice.
Been having issues with Opera on the stock .24 rom.
Jamesyboy said:
I have yet to see a browser on an android tablet establish the key 30fps stable...the stock browser is beset, with chrome a distant second, and dolphin behind it.
Firefox was by far the worst junk I've ever installed on my tablet. I sure hope they've made improvements, because honestly, I liked the tab management better than all the other browsers on offer.
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just try the damn nightly

TF300 and Adobe Flash

Thinking of getting a 2nd ipad, oops tablet in the house
I have few questions:
- what Android does it come with out of the box (as of almost August 2012)?
- Can you install Flash on it?
- Will you be able to install Flash once it gets (if it gets) upgraded to Jellybean?
- Does Google Store have a dedicated tablet app section, i mean are there a lot of native 1280x800 apps or does the TF300 upscale or something?
Lastly what's the difference between TF300 and TF300TG? I see Hydro ROM has downloads for both...are there 2 tablet revisions or something?
Thanks!
The tf300 is wifi only
The tf300tg is wifi and 3g
You can install flash from the market.
And no there is no dedicated section in the marketplace for tablet apps.
Good luck with your purchase
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zerozoneice said:
Thinking of getting a 2nd ipad, oops tablet in the house
I have few questions:
- what Android does it come with out of the box (as of almost August 2012)?
- Can you install Flash on it?
- Will you be able to install Flash once it gets (if it gets) upgraded to Jellybean?
- Does Google Store have a dedicated tablet app section, i mean are there a lot of native 1280x800 apps or does the TF300 upscale or something?
Lastly what's the difference between TF300 and TF300TG? I see Hydro ROM has downloads for both...are there 2 tablet revisions or something?
Thanks!
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It comes with android 4.0 out of the box. Its not stock but close with a few useful asus tweaks.
Yes you can install flash on it. When it get upgraded to 4.1 you can sideload flash but it will not work with chrome. Flash really isn't a big deal anymore. Adobe isn't upgrading it and everyone if not most already are moving to html5.
No the play store market whatever they are calling it does not have a tablet specific section. However a decent amount of apps have tablet layouts. If they don't it gets scaled up however I don't think it looks bad by any means.
Lastly the 300t is the wifi while the tg is 3g/4g.
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thanks all!
Don't forget to hit the thanks button.
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There is actually a small section in the market called "Staff picks for tablets", probably all the tablet apps won't be listed in there but at least some of the most popular will. Also there's an app called tablified market it has all the apps available for tablets, although last time I used it hadn't been updated in a while.
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- Will you be able to install Flash once it gets (if it gets) upgraded to Jellybean?
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but the only browser I've ever had Flash work on is the stock browser or derivatives, like ICS Browser+ (no Flash support on Firefox or Chrome, can't recall if Dolphin worked). In JB, the stock browser *is* Chrome, correct? No more stock browser?
You can pretty much differentiate the apps that are for tablet and the apps for phone.
The apps that are for lower resolution are typically not even worth making it for tablet resolution.
Games are fine, I've never seen a game other than Rage of Bahamaut that wasn't terrible to look at.
Flash is available on android, yes.
Chrome is probably the default browser for Jelly Bean, so I assume they will add flash to it.
Your tablet will have android 4.0 right out of the box.
It probably isn't worth getting this tablet, since the new Infinity is out and only 100$ more.
It is far better with everything from screen resolution to quality of the build.
I wish I had waited for it... But, I plan on getting a new devices every year. From a new laptop or desktop to a new tablet. :victory:
zerozoneice said:
Thinking of getting a 2nd ipad, oops tablet in the house
I have few questions:
- what Android does it come with out of the box (as of almost August 2012)?
- Can you install Flash on it?
- Will you be able to install Flash once it gets (if it gets) upgraded to Jellybean?
- Does Google Store have a dedicated tablet app section, i mean are there a lot of native 1280x800 apps or does the TF300 upscale or something?
Lastly what's the difference between TF300 and TF300TG? I see Hydro ROM has downloads for both...are there 2 tablet revisions or something?
Thanks!
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If you're buying this tablet not because amdroid but because android has flash then just download puffin web browser or iswifter to your ipad,
bsaman said:
In JB, the stock browser *is* Chrome, correct? No more stock browser?
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That's what I thought, but the stock browser (at least, in CM10) seems to be the same as the ICS browser but with a couple extra Chrome-like features. Maybe CM has to use the old stock browser for the same reasons they can't include Gapps.
adrhodes said:
You can pretty much differentiate the apps that are for tablet and the apps for phone.
The apps that are for lower resolution are typically not even worth making it for tablet resolution.
Games are fine, I've never seen a game other than Rage of Bahamaut that wasn't terrible to look at.
Flash is available on android, yes.
Chrome is probably the default browser for Jelly Bean, so I assume they will add flash to it.
Your tablet will have android 4.0 right out of the box.
It probably isn't worth getting this tablet, since the new Infinity is out and only 100$ more.
It is far better with everything from screen resolution to quality of the build.
I wish I had waited for it... But, I plan on getting a new devices every year. From a new laptop or desktop to a new tablet. :victory:
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it's a 200EUR (250USD) difference in these parts of the world
TF700 sounds sexier, but:
- more pixels to push
- higher clocked CPU
- higher price
- no killer apps that justify 1080p screen
now the question (since i found an used TF201 very close in price to a TF300) is: is the wifi reception THAT bad on the Prime? (don't care about GPS)
plus points are: gorilla glass and thinner/lighter body
I returned the TF201 in anticipation of the TF300T being released, specifically based on poor WIFI performance. I have to admit the TF300T wasn't great at first (still better than the prime) but I now have Jelly Bean on it and am very happy with it.
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Should Chrome stay in CROMI or just be a play store app?

Vote now!
I hate Chrome on mobile. It is next to useless and with it being available on the play store I no longer want to offer it at all in CROMI going forward.
Give me a good reason to keep supporting it otherwise it goes!
sbdags said:
Vote now.
I hate Chrome on mobile. It is next to useless and with it being available on the play store I no longer want to offer it at all in CROMI going forward.
Give me a good reason to keep supporting it otherwise it goes!
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bye bye chrome. no flash in chrome so i dont use it anyway
I don't like Chrome either..removed it and using Dolphin now...it is the best browser sofar I think.
I use chrome. It's quite bad to be honest but i like the UI and it's "trusted". Browsing in general is quite poor on stock
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UndisputedGuy said:
I use chrome. It's quite bad to be honest but i like the UI and it's "trusted". Browsing in general is quite poor on stock
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Let's say it wasn't installed by the ROM by default - you'd still be able to install it from the google play store or from a titanium backup though right? What does it offer over the stock browser which is significantly faster than chrome on all web pages I have seen, offers full screen options, java, flash and bookmark synching with PC chrome. I really can't see why anyone prefers mobile chrome.
Stock browser hangs a lot when you're stock and unrooted. I've just got used to chrome now i guess
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Firefox runs the way I want. I've had flickering issues on chrome on multiple devices.
Yeah, chrome for tablets has always been below par. Firefox ftw!
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I've tried other browsers but I just keep coming back to Chrome. Its just a personal preference.
Mobile Chrome sucks a lot. Stock is way better when you're rooted.
I thinks there's no need to put it in your rom.
If people want to use it, they'll know how to download it. It'll cut down on ROM size anyway.
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Let's say it wasn't installed by the ROM by default - you'd still be able to install it from the google play store or from a titanium backup though right? What does it offer over the stock browser which is significantly faster than chrome on all web pages I have seen, offers full screen options, java, flash and bookmark synching with PC chrome. I really can't see why anyone prefers mobile chrome.
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How do you do that?
Off with Chromes head !!!
I mean well yeh the stock browser works great as long as your not on the stock rom.
(I'm on 4.2 and atm don't use your ROM), BUT why do you want to remove Chrome? It's just one apk of your ROM and doesn't slow down the tablet, ppl who don't want it should just not use it (put in Aroma Installer so that they just don't have it if they don't want it )
But I prefer Chrome over Stock, as Stock also with all this tweaks etc. just didn't have such a nice user surface and also felt smoother (had bit longer to load)
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(I'm on 4.2 and atm don't use your ROM), BUT why do you want to remove Chrome? It's just one apk of your ROM and doesn't slow down the tablet, ppl who don't want it should just not use it (put in Aroma Installer so that they just don't have it if they don't want it )
But I prefer Chrome over Stock, as Stock also with all this tweaks etc. just didn't have such a nice user surface and also felt smoother (had bit longer to load)
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Chrome is now 20mb and is available on the market. That is the main reason for wanting to remove it. However I have been using it exclusively for the last few days and am quite enjoying it. It is nowhere as smooth as stock (can't agree with you there) but where it does well is on sites with java script. The one failing of the stock browser is it is seriously buggy with js.
I did lots of testing on this a few days ago, all tests were done in the same part in my house so it was fair, and the test was loading xda forum with all topics, boat, stock, angel and firefox all failed after 90 seconds they were still loading and i got bored of waiting lol, dolphin (the latest with flash took on average 45 seconds but chrome killed it by loading the forum in around 25 seconds, i did t his test lots of times and as controlled as possible, i shut all other apps and the free ram was always close to 450mb so i suggest chrome for most things but if you need flash then dolphin is the browser for you, or do it like me and have both and use the best for the task
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I did lots of testing on this a few days ago, all testes were done in the same part in my hose so it was fair, and the test was loading xda forum with all topics, boat, stock, angel and firefox all failed after 90 seconds they were still loading and i got bored of waiting lol, dolphin (the latest with flash took on average 45 seconds but chrome killed it by loading the forum in around 25 seconds, i did t his test lots of times and as controlled as possible, i shut all other apps and the free ram was always close to 450mb so i suggest chrome for most things but if you need flash then dolphin is the browser for you, or do it likeme and have both and use the best for the task
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Really? Testes and hose in the same sentence? Awesome...
giant25 said:
Really? Testes and hose in the same sentence? Awesome...
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fixed now lol
but if any wants to test this i would like to hear there results
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[Q] Chrome or standard Android Browser on N10?

Hey all! Sorry to bother folks but I was wondering how you all felt about what worked better on the Nexus 10 with a CM based ROM, Chrome or the standard Android 4.2.2 Web Browser?
Both seem to work well for me and I think Chrome was "made" to go with this tablet but I was curious of others experience performance wise and website compatibility.
Appreciate any relevant feedback you can provide!
Cheers all!
Jason
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Chrome for me
I tried using almost all of them last night, and I got best results from the stock browser, boat browser and Dolphin Beta.
Boat is decent, pretty snappy but comes with ads. Dolphin is silky smooth for me, but the lack of flash bugs me. I had slowness, stuttering and touch input lag from both Chromes and the others.
So I go with stock. Running CM current too.
Thanks! I appreciate the opinions! Anyone else care to add an opinion on the subject?
I've been using Chrome but I used the standard browser unintentionally after wiping the ROM and was kinda impressed actually.
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Jkennedy78 said:
Thanks! I appreciate the opinions! Anyone else care to add an opinion on the subject?
I've been using Chrome but I used the standard browser unintentionally after wiping the ROM and was kinda impressed actually.
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AOSP Browser...
espionage724 said:
Chrome for me
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To go into a bit more detail about this, both AOSP and Chrome work fine for me. Chrome from what I understand has an updated javascript engine, and password sync though (not 100% sure on the javascript thing). AOSP has flash support.
Chrome here, I like the bookmark syncing.
Also- I've started messing with the experimental options in Chrome.
Type into Chrome's omnibar:
chrome://flags/
I'm not sure what does what, but test and see if certain settings make things smoother, like enabling GPU rendering.
aosp browser is too good for me.
ASOP!
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Stock, chrome isn't as fluid as stock.
Boat for Flash, and because it does "mouse over" well.

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