New Firefox Beta worth trying - Eee Pad Transformer General

The new Firefox beta is quite impressive; it's way better than the crap they released to the play store and I thought I'd share. Enjoy.
http://nightly.mozilla.org/

Agreed, give it a try. It's pretty darned good.

Still really slow in comparison to Opera Mobile, and the Firefox rendering is flakey at times.
No real reason to use Firefox on Android right now when Opera is offering Opera Mobile.

CrazyPeter said:
Still really slow in comparison to Opera Mobile, and the Firefox rendering is flakey at times.
No real reason to use Firefox on Android right now when Opera is offering Opera Mobile.
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For me, Opera Mobile is actually slower than the latest Firefox nightly. With the bookmark sync, it's sweet, fast and useful. Scrolling is far smoother than the stock browser, too. It's pretty much what I've been waiting for Firefox to do. Quick controls aside (I will miss them), I think I can finally get away from the stock browser for a lot of things now.

this is much better then previous version. scrolling is pretty smooth. can't wait for final version

I'll give it a try simply for the fact that it is open source.

It's pretty good, although it's not available in the market/play. Download from mozilla http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/channel/
I've been using Dolphin browser on android for a few years, and this might be a replacement.
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Is there any way to get Firefox not to force mobile versions of websites even when you go to the normal site link? I don't see anything in the very limited settings.

just lou said:
Is there any way to get Firefox not to force mobile versions of websites even when you go to the normal site link? I don't see anything in the very limited settings.
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The nightly has a setting to request the desktop site. It's not in the beta version.
FYI, there are a few versions: nightly, Aurora, beta, stable. Nightly is the bleeding tip of the sword, Aurora is the pre-beta, and so forth. You can have all versions installed seperately and they don't overwrite each other.
I downloaded a few, and these are the versin numbers I have now:
beta 14.0
aurora 15.0.a2
nightly 16.0a1
I'm sure it would help the devs out if you ran one of the non-stable versions and turned on the performance tracking.
I just noticed that the nightlies have their own link (see OP), and the more stable versions have a link (posted a few posts back)

It is slow and still isn't touch friendly. All the controls are at the top like a desktop application. The "tab" hack is pretty horrible.
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latest nightly now has appstore

just lou said:
Is there any way to get Firefox not to force mobile versions of websites even when you go to the normal site link? I don't see anything in the very limited settings.
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Update- there is an add on called phony that will spoof your browser headers. Seems to work OK.
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how do you get tablet ui to work?

CrazyPeter said:
Still really slow in comparison to Opera Mobile, and the Firefox rendering is flakey at times.
No real reason to use Firefox on Android right now when Opera is offering Opera Mobile.
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I have yet to see a browser on an android tablet establish the key 30fps stable...the stock browser is beset, with chrome a distant second, and dolphin behind it.
Firefox was by far the worst junk I've ever installed on my tablet. I sure hope they've made improvements, because honestly, I liked the tab management better than all the other browsers on offer.
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+1
Nightly is really nice.
Been having issues with Opera on the stock .24 rom.

Jamesyboy said:
I have yet to see a browser on an android tablet establish the key 30fps stable...the stock browser is beset, with chrome a distant second, and dolphin behind it.
Firefox was by far the worst junk I've ever installed on my tablet. I sure hope they've made improvements, because honestly, I liked the tab management better than all the other browsers on offer.
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just try the damn nightly

Related

Fennec (Firefox for Android) - out now

You can get it here, but it's crap and takes up 40+MB of internal storage!! And it's still beta
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/m/beta.html
it`s Fennec (aka desert fox) and yes it huge and crap
Even moved to SD card it was still about 30MB! It's also unusably slow at the moment, and it doesn't reflow the text either so I doubt it will ever be an improvement on the stock browser.
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flash doesn't work on this, right?
andyb949 said:
Even moved to SD card it was still about 30MB! It's also unusably slow at the moment, and it doesn't reflow the text either so I doubt it will ever be an improvement on the stock browser.
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The size is ridiculous but its definitely not slow for me. The scrolling and zooming are very smooth. The address bar is awkward, you cant type something in without it brining up the whole bookmarks/history stuff, very annoying.
I really like the sync features. Having access to all the bookmarks on my PC is really convenient.
Its lacking a lot of settings and options though.
Overall I like it, but not good enough to replace other browsers yet.
I used it awhile ago, doesn't compare to the stock browser or any of the others for that matter.
Skyfire is no doubt the best.
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remember guys this is still in beta, im sure before we get an rc, mozilla will have an awsome browser
It's good that we android users have choice. But until mozilla fixes the size & optimize the browser its a no go for me.
Last time i checked, it was a resource hog, not as slow as hell but slower than the stock browser and Opera.
Uninstalled it less than 5 miniutes later.
tried it and yes the size is unbelieveable! shall be patiently waiting for them to go out of beta.
AndroHero said:
remember guys this is still in beta, im sure before we get an rc, mozilla will have an awsome browser
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Personally, I think this is a long way from being a beta quality release. It's a late alpha/pre-beta at best. I think Mozilla have done themselves a disservice by calling it a beta.
Regards,
Dave
InfDaMarvel said:
I used it awhile ago, doesn't compare to the stock browser or any of the others for that matter.
Skyfire is no doubt the best.
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skyfire is laggy man.just compare its scrolling with dolphin's.dolphin is smoother than it.
it's slooooooooooow.

Will browsing ever be good enough?

I'm going to start by saying I absolutely love my transformer... and am definetly going to stay and hope the platform will grow. But I don't think anyone will argue that browsing on it is not the same as a computer or even netbook. My grandma has a 400 dollar netbook and Still it outperformed the transformer. Im running Prime 1.4, overclocked to 1.6 and still it is not enough. Sites don't load correctly, things don't click, and just other stuff just doesn't work as it does on a real PC.
So my question is Do you guys think well ever get a full fledged browsing experience? I no this isn't a computer but it should be able to browse like one I think. And do you guys think these issues are more honeycomb related then hardware?
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Sometimes things don't click because a lot of websites aren't exactly optimized for touches. Same reason we have problems with things that require mouse-hover functions.
Currently it's "good enough" for me, personally.
I've got a question regarding browser performance. Using the stock browser, when I scroll down a web page, there is a very noticeable lag in the newly exposed section filling in. For example, when I scroll down an XDA forum, the bottom of my screen is a blank brown/tan for a moment before anything loads. I tested the same sites on my dual core phone and there were no delays or visible blank spots when scrolling -it looks continous and smooth whereas the Transformer appears to be slowly loading each new section. I'm on my second unit and don't recall it being nearly as bad on the first. My keyboard lag is also ridiculous.
Is this experience common or do I again have a defective Transformer
That's common, try switching to xda classic at the bottom if you can't tolerate it. There its the xda app too.
i thinks its eather asus custome UI, even though its pretty vanilla, its still laggier than stock. that and HC is a bit laggier than phone ver. of Android. Just gotta wait for updates i guess.
Did I hear that hardware accerlation in the browser could b in I've cream sandwich? That will help surely.
Have to say I agree. My partner is getting pissed off with it as we sold our netbook for Thursday tf.
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i feel you with the things dont click, this is a problem with touch screens across all devices, other wise for a tablet the browsing is great. you shouldnt expect it to be up to par with a full operating system such as windows....yet
try opera browser instead
Opera does not support flash, but Flash in general is bad on Honeycomb, so you could argue that no browsers support it...
Opera has stated that it is because of Google not releasing the sources to Honeycomb, but that should change with Icecream Sandwitch (unless Google changes its mind again). It will take a while, early next year at the soonest.
If you can live without flash, Opera is indeed the best browser of the bunch.
I bet any tablet has that screen draw issue in browsers, my iPad does the same thing but instead of blank it's a checkerboard pattern, never really bugged me too much. I'm like Dolphin HD so far, I did really like Opera but it has a problem that makes me not use it. I like to use the trackpad with 2 finger swipe to move the page around which works fine in other browsers, butin Opera it's like a gesture that does some wierd thing so I quit using it.
darkonex said:
I bet any tablet has that screen draw issue in browsers, my iPad does the same thing but instead of blank it's a checkerboard pattern, never really bugged me too much. I'm like Dolphin HD so far, I did really like Opera but it has a problem that makes me not use it. I like to use the trackpad with 2 finger swipe to move the page around which works fine in other browsers, butin Opera it's like a gesture that does some wierd thing so I quit using it.
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I use opera mobile to open forums. smooth scrolling and no laggy page drawing. only use flash supported browser to stream videos.
i was annoyed by the slow browsing experience also using dolphin hd but i found that if you turn off JavaScript it significantly speeds up page loading.
Patience is a virtue...
Web browsing on android has came a very far way in just a few years. Microsoft had decades to optimize windows for browsing the web, android (especially honeycomb) just came into the game.
Web browsing works remarkably well when take into account that android (Once again, especially honeycomb) is still very much a premature OS still trying to iron out and optimize.
Don't get caught up in all the hype revolving around the hardware in android phones and benchmarks, etc. The hardware has never been the problem, once the software gets optimized and focused on web browsing will be just as good or even surpass OSx, ios and windows.
Links that don't react to clicking is probably not a touch screen problem but a bug in browser. In Dolphine when i use long tap and select "open in new window" it still doesn't open them many times. And new Dolphine proibably uses stack browser for viewing pages because it has the same problems as the stock browser.
Has anyone tried SkyFire? I t works quite well on my HD2 and has Flash support
You just have to try opera mobile! It is indeed the best brouwser for the transformer.
Yeah opera moblie seems to be the like the fastest browser among the stock and dolphina, but I don't heard alot of people complaining about the small font size. Am I crazy but the font is way to small on opera. So no one has issues with it? Increasing the font size from 9 to 12 does help but its not perfect.
Opera mobile not playing flash is a deal breaker. Fix it and most will move to opera.
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wouwout said:
Opera mobile not playing flash is a deal breaker. Fix it and most will move to opera.
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It does play flash. You have to enable desktop agent: http://articlecms.in/3691-how-to-run-opera-mobile-in-full-desktop-mode.html
"In the browser address bar type opera:config
Scroll down to User preferences and click on it
Scroll to custom user agent
Type this into the text box Opera/9.80 (Linux; en) Presto/2.7.81 Version/11.00
Click save
Restart the app"
I just find the browser to be slow. Sadly my notion ink adam broswer was much faster which was also running flash and was set fordesktop user agent

stock browser vs dolphin hd v5.0?

I just got the transformer and i was wondering which browser between the 2 that you guys like better and why. This is my 1st device with honeycomb so i dont really know which way to go.
i have both. i started out using dolphin cause i was using it on my nexus 1 already but lately I've been using the stock more and more.
they're both good imo. just play around with both and see which you like better.
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sorry double post
Dllphin doesnt have graphic acceleration for scrolling anymore in newest version so its a no go for me.
dolphin is a much better browsing experience in my opinion, i didn't like how slow websites were with flash enabled on the stock browser but then again I haven't switch back to see if it's any better since the update[3.1].
stock browser in 3.1 is much better than previous one . flash video is in higher quality than dolphin. finally the swipe thumb quick control is the killing feature for stock browser
I use Dolphin, mainly because of the interface.
Edit: I did a quick benchmark with sunspider which tests javascript. Here's the results:
Stock: 1.7653 seconds
Dolphin HD 5.1.0:1.7919 seconds
Dolphin HD 6.0.0 beta 2:1.8261 seconds
brando56894 said:
I use Dolphin, mainly because of the interface.
Edit: I did a quick benchmark with sunspider which tests javascript. Here's the results:
Stock: 1.7653 seconds
Dolphin HD 5.1.0:1.7919 seconds
Dolphin HD 6.0.0 beta 2:1.8261 seconds
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I use both. I like Dolphin because I am used to it. I've used HD on my phone for a while. It has had it's problems on 5.0. It's getting better with the newer 5.1 releases.
SM0k3Y said:
dolphin is a much better browsing experience in my opinion, i didn't like how slow websites were with flash enabled on the stock browser but then again I haven't switch back to see if it's any better since the update[3.1].
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The current stock browser now lets you set Flash to "on demand" just like Dolphin.
I tried really hard to like Dolphin but I just couldnt get over the interface.
Plus with the stock, I can easily sync my bookmarks, etc to desktop (Chrome).
I use Dolphin, mainly because of its plug-in support.
Anyone tried Firefox on their TF?
I have an issue where dolphina will not load the page.
browngeek said:
I use Dolphin, mainly because of its plug-in support.
Anyone tried Firefox on their TF?
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tried it but got rid of it, ui just need more works imo
dazz87 said:
I have an issue where dolphina will not load the page.
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http://blog.dolphin-browser.com/2011/06/04/page-loading-issue-still-exists-try-dolphin-hd-5-0-2-beta/
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Chrome browser available..in beta

www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2012/02/chrome-android/
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Only good with ICS.
baseballfanz said:
Only good with ICS.
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Yes i know but wanted ppl with the 4.0 port to try it out for us.. Also wanted ppl to know about it since we getting 4.0 soon.
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just downloaded it for my phone.. im getting force closes tho
mafo5000 said:
just downloaded it for my phone.. im getting force closes tho
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You running ICS on your phone?
Used it on OG Transformer with paulburton's ICS ROM. The browser is pretty smooth, and looks just like the pc chrome browser.
I don't have enough posts to link to the file, but it should be pretty easy to find the apk by now.
i tried it on Sensation
its pretty sweet
we need ICS for TF101 now!
Does Chrome for Android have all the same security and privacy issues that Chrome for desktop has?
If it does, i'm sticking with Opera.
Google and Adobe won't support flash for Chrome on Android
Which is either good or bad depending on you.
I use Flash for live video so I don't like this decision. It's a good option to have, you can always opt to not install it
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You running ICS on your phone?
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Im running cm9 on my Samsung captivate. Chrome force closes tho.
I've tried this on my G2 running ics and its great man really fast ans smooth
It looked really smooth on a Nexus.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uys0o1ZBDAs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d33zwNZG1Qg
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Im running cm9 on my Samsung captivate. Chrome force closes tho.
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Same thing happened to me. Try moving some apps to the sdcard, that worked for me.
Its slow when loading a link from an app. The chrome browser loads up instantly but doesn't start loading the page for a while.
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chewitard said:
Same thing happened to me. Try moving some apps to the sdcard, that worked for me.
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Running TeamHackSungs ICS build 15 on my cappy and its fine no fc's and smoooooth as butter
I love Chrome browser . I've being waiting for this since... well since Android 1st came out
But i'm going to wait for the official ICS for the TF101 before i try it.
I just hope that is not a RAM devourer app
Works great on my Rezound with 4.0.1! This browser is sweet! I would totally dump the stock browser for this anyday, but I kinda wished they kept the darker gray theme rather than going back to light gray..
The tabs sharing with the desktop Chrome is F-ing Awesome! Like what Chrome2Phone should have been all along!
No Flash in Chrome for now. Adobe say they won't support it but hopefully Google will adapt it later.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/02/08/flash_chrome/
Where be the tab stack? Do we lose that, another Tablet sacrifice?
Fairly stable for me. The only crash I had was with something like 7-8 tabs open (all XDA Prime forums, plus a few chrome blogs, LOL! I like it. A LOT! And typically I am hard to please, especially where browsers are concerned. There are way to many Android browsers out there that are acceptable, but not outstanding. Each has their own little tweaks and claim to fame, but under the hood they are ridiculousy similar. Let's see, I have had on my Prime, at one point or another:
Stock. - Works well. So well it bores me, LOL
ICS+ - A nice set of enhancements. I use it more than the stock webkit browser
Dolphin and Dolphin HD - I like, don't love it. A bit TOO slick, and some things frustrate me. It will be better when the HD catches up to the small screen version, I think
Opera Mini and Opera Mobile - What can I say. 2 solid browsers here. Mobile is a keeper. [
boat browser - Not imopressed, other than speed, it was buggy. removed.
Skyfire - I LOVED this one on my phone in early releases it was amazing. When Skyfire decided t charge me to see flash, I decided to cut them lose. Too many alternatives. It's not THAT great.
Firefox - a HUGE let down, but everyone expected magic here. Didn't materialize.
Maxthon. Very cool new browser.Jury still out on this one.
That's right off the top of my head.
Anyone know how to make the tab "Stack" appear in chrome, or is that only in the phone version, because we have the real estate to see the tabs. If so I am disappointed. That was chromes one big trick pony, and I was excited to try it. So far I can't see the button in top left to enable them, just a new tab button. Anyone?
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Just another reason Asus need to pull their finger out, and stop sitting on the ICS update.

what browser do you use on ics?

Just wondering what the majority of you are using as your default browser. I've always used Dolphin hd but been getting a lot of force closes. Still use it though as I love all the addons.
Opera for me
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Stock browser
or Chrome sometimes.
ICS +
Stock browser with added features. Works and integrates quite well.
Disabled stock browser, using Chrome Beta for Android, in fricking heaven!
No Flash support, don't care
Using good old Dolphin for PAD browser, imo still the best.
With best regards, maris
Originally using stock ICS browser but this week changed to Opera Mobile. So far it looks and behaves pretty good.
maris__ said:
Using good old Dolphin for PAD browser, imo still the best.
With best regards, maris
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That one hasn't had an update in months I think they've forgotten about it.
Irieone said:
ICS +
Stock browser with added features. Works and integrates quite well.
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The desktop toggle function only seems to work on a few sites for me. I like my sites
unmobiled
irishmoe said:
That one hasn't had an update in months I think they've forgotten about it.
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Because it didn't need one
Fair enough Maris
Chrome. Works pretty well.
jimbobtexas said:
Chrome. Works pretty well.
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No flash not a problem for you? I watch a few online highlights (football) sites.
I can't try it myself, it's unavailable here.
Chrome is good for me only to grab the websites i 've open on my computer, then copy paste the url in the STOCK browser...
I just hope one day get rid about this CPU eater FLASH!
just trying out opera now, I'm quite surprised. Last time I tried it images on sites wouldn't load for me and it kept opening mobile versions of sites. Granted it was at least 6 months ago that I tried it last but it seems to have improved a lot.
I may stick with it for a while until dolphin gets sorted for ics properly.
veer01_42 said:
Disabled stock browser, using Chrome Beta for Android, in fricking heaven!
No Flash support, don't care
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Love chrome. Did not know even a beta was available. Installing it now.
Stock or Dolphin
I use firefox for the sync and the addon. Plus I've been using firefox on my desktop for like 4 or 5 years
chrome beta so far the best for me...
Try tint browser , very similar to to ics+ browser but alot faster

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