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it was always possible but with those new chips SE could do the bear minimum in terms of upgrades if they were feeling lazy
if they were to go ahead with a play 2 i would hope that we would get at least 1gb ram and much more internal storage
I see them upgrading the SGS Plus or things like those instead of the Play.
GPU sounds weaker "Adreno 203". we have Areno 205 in our devices and some devices have Adreno 220 already.
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Geez just upgrade the ram and storage to 1gig+ and dont fix what ain't broke
The upgrades would be nice but I think the whole dual/quad core thing is kinda a marketing ploy at this time. In benches of course dual cores beat single cores but in reality of everyday use the difference is so minimal I doubt 90%+ of Android users could tell the difference. That's my opinion coming from an unlocked overclocked Atrix to the XP.
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The upgrades would be nice but I think the whole dual/quad core thing is kinda a marketing ploy at this time. In benches of course dual cores beat single cores but in reality of everyday use the difference is so minimal I doubt 90%+ of Android users could tell the difference. That's my opinion coming from an unlocked overclocked Atrix to the XP.
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Actually, dual-core can make a noticeable difference on Android due to the way it handles threading. Unlike iOS, Android tends to parallel process background and UI tasks, which is why the UI can get very sluggish when something like an app install is happening in the background. Multiple cores can more smoothly handle these situations.
so the pattern is doubling the number of cores every generations then the next generation should have 8core processor?
I highly doubt it...
Probably a hex core.
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What's the point?
Name one situation where you would even need that.
Samsung needs to work on improving other practical features.
They've always upgraded what makes people fall for their phones, but never anything actually useful.
Years ago, their phone cameras went up in megapixels, but sucked no matter how much megapixels they had. Because megapixels aren't as important as is other more technical camera features. But megapixels are easiest to advertise so they went with those.
Personally I think a single core was enough. Now, phone companies need to work on RAM. They could stuff a lot more RAM in before they need to upgrade the processor.
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No, we will get more quad graphics
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Doubt it. these apps doesnt even require 8 cores. if any of these phone users require 8 core just to play games, either get a console or a decent pc.
8 core to play Angry birds or Shadowgun...pffftt...
will 8 core make me type faster?
Just Faster Speeds
tbh, I think faster speeds are really the only shift we'll be seeing at least next year for sure, but probably the year after that as well. Although with Windows 8 on ARM on the horizon, perhaps devs may find a way to do some serious mobile computing.
i don't think that 8 core will be useful for a device of 5" or 6"
They will stay at quad core but use the faster A15 architecture.
It's possible they might add some low powered A7 cores in a big.little configuration to improve battery life.
It will also have a next gen Mali gpu. Either Mali 604 or t658.
I'm also expecting it to have 2gb of ram.
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lol coming from a WP user
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I'm not entirely convinced multi-cored phones of any variety are even really getting fully utilized yet :/
I honestly believe cores are more of a marketing gimmick at the moment. I could be wrong, I'm no expert and I don't have the ability to see how well android handles the fine details.. But, there are a lot of factors most people don't even think about when buying phones.. Manufacturers know you're not going to ask "Well what about this 1.5ghz single core processor preforming 4 instructions per clock compared to this dual core phone performing 1.5 instructions per clock?"
Maybe when I go to upgrade my captivate I'll worry about cores more but, at the moment I wouldn't be surprised if dual cores were preforming better than quad cores since they have been out longer and had more time to get optimized in the code.
Dual core phones are already fast enough but seems like phones will start competing with pc in the next few years.
Imo RAM n battery life need to be increased greatly then manufactures should start thinking about future multiple core cpu.
Imagine a hex core cpu n the juice it needs
Yes, RAM!
ya, I definitely think RAM has a place because that's one of the best things about smartphones is the ability to multi-task! So if manufacturers can further cater to that, then I think more cores may follow, especially if we get more TRUE multi-tasking where you have live apps running. Because then, you can delegate individual cores to individual apps that are running. ATM I'm not entirely sure why I would need multiple live apps running simultaneously on a phone, however I think for business workers/students it could be helpful to be watching a live stream or doing a conference call while taking notes in an office suite app.
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LOL coming from somebody using even lesser hardware than mine. Pull out the wallet and get sum 6 core goodness you cheapo. You even fail at trolling, come on you can do better than this.
On a more serious note, even Win7 has issues handling more than 6 cores efficiently, so why would anyone even bother having 8 effing cores on a phone. A full desktop experience would be useless anyway on something like a phone, only no life nerds should get all excited about something like that. I wonder why people can't just enjoy the current technology, looking so far just means that one hasn't really got **** to do all day IMHO.
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I'm not entirely convinced multi-cored phones of any variety are even really getting fully utilized yet :/
I honestly believe cores are more of a marketing gimmick at the moment. I could be wrong, I'm no expert and I don't have the ability to see how well android handles the fine details.. But, there are a lot of factors most people don't even think about when buying phones.. Manufacturers know you're not going to ask "Well what about this 1.5ghz single core processor preforming 4 instructions per clock compared to this dual core phone performing 1.5 instructions per clock?"
Maybe when I go to upgrade my captivate I'll worry about cores more but, at the moment I wouldn't be surprised if dual cores were preforming better than quad cores since they have been out longer and had more time to get optimized in the code.
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This. One needs to wonder why would a decent mobile OS need this much power anyway?
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LOL coming from somebody using even lesser hardware than mine. Pull out the wallet and get sum 6 core goodness you cheapo. You even fail at trolling, come on you can do better than this.
On a more serious note, even Win7 has issues handling more than 6 cores efficiently, so why would anyone even bother having 8 effing cores on a phone. A full desktop experience would be useless anyway on something like a phone, only no life nerds should get all excited about something like that. I wonder why people can't just enjoy the current technology, looking so far just means that one hasn't really got **** to do all day IMHO.
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I use even lesser lesser lesser, and lesser hardware
Instead of wasting money (which I don't have) on a newer phone, I work on optimizing Android to run at its best on my phone. Look at the Sony PSP. The XMB is amazing for a 333mhz processor. (And its actually clocked at 222mhz at the XMB). Now, were not talking about the browser here, that sucks. Sony spent time on the OS itself. They won't get thanked for it by the people who look at the features list on the box, but they engineered a wonderful OS for such a weak device.
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the s4 will be dualcore 2.3ghz the s5 will probably be some insane cpu and graphics chip capable of running mw3 im 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000% sure they will be more powerful than a xbox 360
Battery and ram def need to be upped. I also think phone manuf should provide a extended battery option with every high powered phone. I would also like to see a slow down on e amount of phones coming out. Perfect your flagship mid and lower powered phones then move on
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I hope they will stop messing with cores and screen sizes and let's focus on batteries and RAM.
Most apps and software don't even use two cores, let alone four, forbid more than that.
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I use even lesser lesser lesser, and lesser hardware
Instead of wasting money (which I don't have) on a newer phone, I work on optimizing Android to run at its best on my phone. Look at the Sony PSP. The XMB is amazing for a 333mhz processor. (And its actually clocked at 222mhz at the XMB). Now, were not talking about the browser here, that sucks. Sony spent time on the OS itself. They won't get thanked for it by the people who look at the features list on the box, but they engineered a wonderful OS for such a weak device.
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Hehe, I know what you mean...a year ago I had a Desire, and it was amazing to see how greatly the software could work after some tweaking, compared to stock. Sure it was kinda challenging, but it really felt like it was worth it: that phone was a living thing to me, I could hear it breathing. I swear I almost cried when I sold it, and I actually immediately regretted doing it, but it was too late. It was like leaving a dog on the side of the road or something like that, but at that time I was all excited about the fresh dual core thing, so I couldn't think rationally. There are days when I still feel very guilty about what I did. I'll never do that again. Guys seriously, if you have an old Android device with you don't sell it, you will regret it. Maybe not now, and not even in a few months, but you definitely will, trust me, especially if you've been living with it for a while (I had that phone for over a year).
Selling the GS2 didn't actually make me feel that way, probably because I've only kept it for a few months and didn't really tweak it that much...
8 cores is long way to go.
no way 8 core phone in next 3 years!
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I hope they will stop messing with cores and screen sizes and let's focus on batteries and RAM.
Most apps and software don't even use two cores, let alone four, forbid more than that.
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Thats ri8 More RAM and Longer Battery life is way to go.
They already have superb camera and beautiful display
Can you guys post some benchmarks. Thanks
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I got 2042 on one run
I just benchmarked my 2011 Kindle Fire and it got a 2016 in quadrant. OMAP 4460 is supposed to be 20% faster clock than OMAP 4430(1.2ghz v 1ghz) so I would assume Kindle Fire HD gets 2400ish but that's only hypothetical.
6100 from Antutu benchmark. Really, pretty good for 1.2
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And people are saying that the kindle fire HD had better hardware than the nexus. I think it definitely needs root. The GPU can be as amazing, but the processing side matters too
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And people are saying that the kindle fire HD had better hardware than the nexus. I think it definitely needs root. The GPU can be as amazing, but the processing side matters too
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Nexus has a quad core CPU. Im sure that bench is multi-threaded.
Okay. Regardless, an score like that is quite mediocre
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Nexus has a quad core CPU. Im sure that bench is multi-threaded.
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Also, those benchmarks don't compensate for the OS - a vanilla version of the OS (Nexus 7) will run faster than one that is less efficient (KFHD). Real world is what matters to me. I bought a KFHD after playing around with one at Best Buy. I don't know if the review units had flaws, but I have experienced no stuttering or slow down. It is much smoother than I expected.
Also, popping flash on there was a breeze, as is sideloading any apps (minus google apps, but including YouTube) that you want.
Overall, a pretty great product. For me it simply came down to if a vanilla Android experience offset the HDMI out (awesome), dual wifi antennas, stereo (and usable) speakers, better screen (that isn't even an opinion if you've seen the screen), double the storage, etc. of the KFHD.
I don't think the difference is that night and day, when comparing the features, although I am happy you are happy about it. The only reason I truly want one of these is because my nexus had been having a lit of issues.
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Anyone thinking that the CPU on the Kindle HD will perform anything remotely close to the Nexus is only fooling yourselves. The CPU on the HD by all means is considered a budget chip and anyone thinking otherwise is just being delusional. Sure the HD has other aspects going for it verses the Nexus, but the CPU isn't one of them.
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And people are saying that the kindle fire HD had better hardware than the nexus. I think it definitely needs root. The GPU can be as amazing, but the processing side matters too
The Kindle Fire 8.9 is the one that beats the nexus 7 (slightly). The 4460 and 4470 are very different in performance (as far as 3D goes). The omap 4470 has a SGX544 vs the SGX540 in the 4460.
http://www.arctablet.com/blog/featu...0-tablet-review-part-3-omap-4470-performance/
This means the 7HD should perform like a Galaxy Nexus (~2000) while the 8.9 performs like the Archos 101XS (~3800 quadrant)
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Anyone thinking that the CPU on the Kindle HD will perform anything remotely close to the Nexus is only fooling yourselves. The CPU on the HD is by all means is considered a budget chip and anyone thinking otherwise is just being delusional. Sure the HD has other aspects going for it verses the Nexus, but the CPU isn't one of them.
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To me (and this almost kills me to say as a PC enthusiast that is constantly OC'ing and upgrading), there isn't a reason for all the power on android. Cell phones / tablets are the first technology I have seen where the hardware is so far beyond anything the software can take advantage of, it is almost pointless. Quad core processors on a tablet with near zero apps optimized for them. Graphics chips so fast they can run 3D games with ease....with about 10 3D games to play...
I highly doubt there will be any software coming anytime soon that will tax even a KFHD's hardware - especially if you use a PC / Laptop for hardcore gaming, and stick with stuff like Cut the Rope and word games on your tablet.
It seems like such a waste of hardware computing power to me.
^^^^^^
And all the while chips are getting faster and faster.
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ncvikingx97 said:
And people are saying that the kindle fire HD had better hardware than the nexus. I think it definitely needs root. The GPU can be as amazing, but the processing side matters too
The Kindle Fire 8.9 is the one that beats the nexus 7 (slightly). The 4460 and 4470 are very different in performance (as far as 3D goes). The omap 4470 has a SGX544 vs the SGX540 in the 4460.
http://www.arctablet.com/blog/featu...0-tablet-review-part-3-omap-4470-performance/
This means the 7HD should perform like a Galaxy Nexus (~2000) while the 8.9 performs like the Archos 101XS (~3800 quadrant)
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Is the difference between the two that extreme?crazy
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Now 6700 from Antutu benchmark. Sweet.
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Most of the literature I've seen says the KFHD 7 has a 4460 with an SGX544 (not an SGX540). Is this even possible ?
It would be great if it was. I don't think amazonvwants to desperate the two in hardware to the extreme of what others are saying
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To me (and this almost kills me to say as a PC enthusiast that is constantly OC'ing and upgrading), there isn't a reason for all the power on android. Cell phones / tablets are the first technology I have seen where the hardware is so far beyond anything the software can take advantage of, it is almost pointless. Quad core processors on a tablet with near zero apps optimized for them. Graphics chips so fast they can run 3D games with ease....with about 10 3D games to play...
I highly doubt there will be any software coming anytime soon that will tax even a KFHD's hardware - especially if you use a PC / Laptop for hardcore gaming, and stick with stuff like Cut the Rope and word games on your tablet.
It seems like such a waste of hardware computing power to me.
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It's pointless to own now only because of the lack of optimizations, this is slowly changing. There is always be a growth period for software when new hardware releases. The applications that really need the extra cores are already using them, dont worry.
Look at Apple for example. It's taking time to get the apps for the new iPads higher screen resolution but it is happening, just slowly. Now consider that the iPad 1 with it's single core no longer receives updates to the OS as it's become too slow with all the changes and outdated. Apple even restricts the applications it can use like garageband and a lot of 3D games run poorly or not at all. This is only 3 years old and already completely outdated even with the more efficient OS. Any android tablet surely would feel terribly slow much quicker considering Android is running as a virtual machine and using more resources to do so.
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It's pointless to own now only because of the lack of optimizations, this is slowly changing. There is always be a growth period for software when new hardware releases. The applications that really need the extra cores are already using them, dont worry.
Look at Apple for example. It's taking time to get the apps for the new iPads higher screen resolution but it is happening, just slowly. Now consider that the iPad 1 with it's single core no longer receives updates to the OS as it's become too slow with all the changes and outdated. Apple even restricts the applications it can use like garageband and a lot of 3D games run poorly or not at all. This is only 3 years old and already completely outdated even with the more efficient OS. Any android tablet surely would feel terribly slow much quicker considering Android is running as a virtual machine and using more resources to do so.
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Just curious, what does it mean it is running as a virtual machine? Thank you
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What are the specs of nexus 4 GPU
Means how many cores or the GPU clock?
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Adreno 320 gpu. And you can't really refer to graphic cards as having cores per se, its not correct or accurate in any sense and is oy used as a marketing term. A cpu can have cores because every part of the processor is copied over. You could cut a dual core in half and it would still work. However with graphics cards that's not the case. There are many components to a graphics card, pixel rendering units, texturizers, gddram bus, etc etc too many to name. Generally companies like to clone one aspect of the GPU and call it a dual core, which isn't fair considering many other components of the chip haven't been duplicated. The company that comes closest to actually replicating every aspect of the GPU is imagination technologies (they make the powervrsgx 5 series cards used in the iPhone and iPad, hence their steller graphics performance) and even they don't do it perfectly.
What you really need to know is the performance, which is what it comes down to. Compared to the Mali 400+ GPU in the sgs3/note2 you'll probably get similar if not slightly better results. They're roughly equal, which makes the adreno 320 the most powerful GPU on the market aside from the powervrsgx540mp4 used in the iPad 3. But that's a tablet the most powerful mobile GPUs manafacuted right now by arm is the newest Mali T-series, those things are powerhouses!! There's five t-series graphics cards created, the weakest of the five is the t-604 used in the nexus 10 and even that is the most powerful GPU being mass produced. Here's a page with a list of the more powerful t series.
http://mobile.arm.com/products/multimedia/mali-graphics-hardware/mali-t604.php?setcookie=mobile
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Hello!
Let me begin by saying sorry for the monstrously long post - I honestly wanted to make it shorter but it got out of hand pretty quickly.
If you're like me, then the minute you've got your hands on the S III Mini you went to the Play Store to test some games, right?
If yes, then you may have noticed that some of them state that they aren't compatible with our devices... and, if you're like me, then you may have tried some "unofficial" sources for, oh let's say Gameloft goodies.
After installing, they either crash at startup, crash during or after the loading screen or, more interestingly, display white boxes instead of the actual textures (this was my experience with Nova 1, Hawx and a couple of others). In this thread I'll try to explain why. My sources are some wonderful threads here at XDA, but if I'm wrong in my assumptions then please correct me so that in the end, we can paint a more correct picture. Of course, some crashes and incompatibilities will be related to completely different things, but here's my take on it!
First of all, the chipset used in the Samsung I8190 is the NovaThor U8420 (a custom 8500 actually), which includes two Cortex-A9 CPU cores clocked at 1 GHz and a single-core GPU, the Mali 400MP. The Mali-400MP is a pretty old GPU (first launched in 2008), but a decent one nonetheless - it's actually on par with the Adreno 200 and 205 in some tests, but that's irrelevant.
Well, that's our culprit - because of the Mali GPU, a part of the games on the Play Store won't be available to us. That's because it's an older model, which only supports ETC compression for 3D textures and games usually rely on all manner of other formats nowadays. So, we go and torch ARM for their GPU, Ericsson for their chipset and Samsung for including it, right? Actually, no.
Here's where it gets interesting - ETC (Ericsson Texture Compression) is a free algorithm, a rather good one at that, but it doesn't support transparency in textures. Developers need to create a kind of "gradient mask" for transparencies (I believe it's similar to Photoshop), so instead of a one-step procedure, this needs two steps to perform. The other algorithms support compression of textures with transparency, so that's why we see white boxes in our games instead of actual textures - the Mali can't display them, so they all get changed to white "placeholders".
The thing is, the ETC format is the only standard accepted officially by OpenGL, so in the end, all the other formats are basically "wrong"! So, it's actually not Mali's fault, nor Ericsson's or Samsung's - it's the developer's fault that they use proprietary formats! Some users (that seemed to know what they were talking about) stated that the change to ETC format isn't that hard to perform and should take only a couple of hours to a resourceful dev.
Why aren't they doing this? Why isn't everyone using the accepted standard from the get-go? Because Nvidia, Imagination Technologies, Qualcomm and all the other GPU manufacturers want their products showcased and displayed in the spotlight. Tegra, PowerVR and Adreno each have to look like the best way to do 3D graphics, so the giant corporations behind them provide incentives, support and so on for their products, each trying to outdo the other's efforts. Thus, devs create a product (a game in this case) that is customized to run "best" on Tegra, or on Adreno or whatever - if it's an exclusive deal ("Tegra™-optimized", anyone?), even better!
This, in my opinion, is completely idiotic! Remember when in the '90 we had all those graphics card manufacturers? Remember how games ran only on Voodoo? Fortunately, the PC industry stabilized and we now have only the big two (Nvidia and Ati), but the idea resurged in the past couple of years on the mobile platform. It's also quite ridiculous, since we can't actually check and see if Game X performs better on Tegra or on Adreno, since it only works on one... so, how can we perform tests?
This is Android fragmentation at its ugliest! Take any modern PC game - no matter if it's "meant to be played on Nvidia" or whatever - you can still run and enjoy it on any graphics card, no matter the manufacturer. That's because of standardization! On the mobile platform, standardization of this sort isn't yet enforced, so in the end, we the customers have to suffer! So, if the game you bought isn't yet compatible with your device, go and yell at the devs - no, really! There's no excuse for using proprietary formats on a platform that boasts of its openness and customizability; there's no reason why we can't all benefit from GameX and there's no logic in denying paying customers of these experiences, all because of one more step in the compression procedure or some marketing hype! iPhone users can benefit from all games in the App Store because all of their devices use the same set of instructions and I'm pretty sure that we Android fans could as well!
So, in the end, Samsung and Mali actually did the right thing... It may not be regarded as such by us, who suffer in the end, but in the long run, enforcing the standard, officially recognized and supported method of compression is the right way to go. Seeing how Samsung sells millions of devices, I just hope that updates will start rolling for each app that presents me with a yellow bar under the Install button.
'Till then, we can only count on some brilliant guys here at XDA that can and do work hard on fixing things that should work correctly in the first place. Remember that I asked how we can perform tests if Game X doesn't run on both GPU Y and GPU Z? Well, one of the above guys is Chainfire of Windows Mobile 5, 6 and Android fame... with his 3D app installed, users reported that previously incompatible games were running perfectly on their devices, no matter if Tegra, Adreno or Mali was powering them. So, it doesn't matter which GPU is used, only the willingness to actually do it right that counts.
Here's to a more fun and usable Android!:highfive:
Note: I actually don't have any experience with developing games and the like, and all the info above is collected from threads here on XDA (especially those for Samsung Galaxy II) and googling everything I come across. I'm sure that the other methods of compression have their benefits and that at least some info above isn't 100% correct, but I still stand by my point. If you know more or want me to correct something then please leave your reply below and I'll see to it ASAP.
My phone runs H.A.W.X perfectly
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I talked with the Gameloft. They have plans for including the more games for the device.
I talked to them because out of 10 games that i bought only 1 works.
I might ask them for refund.
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I talked with the Gameloft. They have plans for including the more games for the device.
I talked to them because out of 10 games that i bought only 1 works.
I might ask them for refund.
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Can you write what games are not working?
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Modern Combat 1,2,3,4
Dark Knight Rises
Asphalt 5,6
Nova 1,2
Adventures of TinTin
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Others i forgot
I am talking about official sources (gameloft store and play store)
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stupid but doesn't galaxy s2 and s3 use mali 400 series if GPUs ? How are they different from Siii mini's ? - are they multi cored ones of same GPU or different entirely ?
They merely face the same problems...
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You mean even s3 faces such incompatibility issues but its a flagship right - sammy should have done something
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You mean even s3 faces such incompatibility issues but its a flagship right - sammy should have done something
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i also dont understand this
the sIII is one of the best selling android phones, seems silly that the developers dont write for it
colonel said:
i also dont understand this
the sIII is one of the best selling android phones, seems silly that the developers dont write for it
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I've had no incompatibility issues on my Galaxy S3.. it doesn't seem right at all.
Will this run 9mm?