Will there be any difference between the 2? Is the one from the play store able to work on all of t mobiles frequencies? Thanks.
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By looking at the specs on the Google play store I'd say the lg nexus 4 should be able to operate on any north american providers gsm/HSPA+ services.
from the info out so far, it seems like T-Mobile's version will support their 42 mbps HSPA+ network while the Play Store version is only 21 mbps.
with that being said, i find it hard to believe that Google would sell this phone with 2 different radios. this same line of thinking is one of the reasons Google didn't include LTE on the Nexus 4.
i'm hoping (and assuming) that the Play Store version supports 42 mbps. if not, at least maybe some software hack could unlock 42 mbps access.
ugh, i just bought the Note 2...now debating on whether or not to return and get the Nexus 4.
tuffCookie said:
from the info out so far, it seems like T-Mobile's version will support their 42 mbps HSPA+ network while the Play Store version is only 21 mbps.
with that being said, i find it hard to believe that Google would sell this phone with 2 different radios. this same line of thinking is one of the reasons Google didn't include LTE on the Nexus 4.
i'm hoping (and assuming) that the Play Store version supports 42 mbps. if not, at least maybe some software hack could unlock 42 mbps access.
ugh, i just bought the Note 2...now debating on whether or not to return and get the Nexus 4.
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Yeah, I really hope the HSPA+42 one will be made available for the same price as the HSPA+21 one since I am using T-Mobile.
Euler MD said:
Yeah, I really hope the HSPA+42 one will be made available for the same price as the HSPA+21 one since I am using T-Mobile.
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I really would like to know this too. I'm switching to T-Mobile for this phone and I need to know where to buy my phone from.
im confused on this 2...i was hoping to change into the $30 monthly plan no contract on hspa+ but...which one is it?
judoka209 said:
I really would like to know this too. I'm switching to T-Mobile for this phone and I need to know where to buy my phone from.
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The play store
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I really hope the one in playstore tmobiles 42mbps, i will instantly pay my ETF with tmobile and switch to the $30 monthly plan!
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Yeah, I really hope the HSPA+42 one will be made available for the same price as the HSPA+21 one since I am using T-Mobile.
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Already announced!
http://www.androidcentral.com/fyi-nexus-4-rocks-42-mbps
I'll be ecstatic if t-mobile includes Wifi UMA calling for the Tmobile release.
The T-Mobile version will be sporting the 42mbps radio, I'm torn between the Galaxy Note II and the Nexus 4. The Snapdragon S4 Pro is better than the quad core Exynos. I love the blacks on AMOLED screens since I watch movies often the screen size would be nice.
http://www.tmonews.com/2012/10/t-mobile-confirms-nexus-4-hspa-42mbps-connectivity/
Sorry for this dumb question but does the 42mbps radio make much of a difference if I'm averaging around 8-10mbps? I'm currently using the HTC One S and I know it's usng the 42mbps radio. If I get the play store version would I average lower connection speeds?
Oky guys, I am getting this for sure, but I don't wanna stuck in 2G so where should I buy it from google store or t-mobile?]
And who gonna provide the update for t-mobile version ? google or t mobile
newbieandroid said:
The T-Mobile version will be sporting the 42mbps radio...
http://www.tmonews.com/2012/10/t-mobile-confirms-nexus-4-hspa-42mbps-connectivity/
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So will the Play Store version, according to the update in that same article.
Given this, there's absolutely no reason to get the contract version. You only save $150, while the cost of a contract can easily exceed $1000.
thebobp said:
So will the Play Store version, according to the update in that same article.
Given this, there's absolutely no reason to get the contract version. You only save $150, while the cost of a contract can easily exceed $1000.
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Your right, I was shocked when I first saw the play store version because I thought the benefit of using a Snapdragon in almost all of T-Mobiles devices dating back to the S3 in the Galaxy S3 was to get the 42mbps radio. I guess that's my next phone!
Sobit has been confirmed that the play store will use t-Mobiles 42 hdpa+? Also what is the 30 dollar a month plan on t-mobile? I'm on Verizon but I want the nexus 4
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Check this article http://www.tmonews.com/2012/10/t-mobile-confirms-nexus-4-hspa-42mbps-connectivity/
They are saying it's 42+ not 21+
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Canadian AWS carriers?
If these two are the same phones, will this work on mobilicity or wind?
Please be yes....
Are you talking about Wind in Canada? If so then yes, it will work. The nexus 4 is pentaband 3G meaning it supports all GSM bands.
42mbps or 21mbps... I was with T-Mobile for about 10 years and rarely saw 8-10mbps.
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Oky guys, I am getting this for sure, but I don't wanna stuck in 2G so where should I buy it from google store or t-mobile?]
And who gonna provide the update for t-mobile version ? google or t mobile
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A few people seem certain that there is only one version of the Nexus 4 so no difference if you get it from TMO or the Play Store. A couple of links like the one from tmo news suggest the same info from a Google Press Release but none have linked to or published the press release so we can't be sure.
So there is still not certainly from my point of view and a chance that the Play Store version will not be a TMO 42mbps version. However if that's the case, you will still get 3G and even HSPA+, it will just not be as fast. To be clear, based on feedback from others, you might get 5mbps where someone with the 42mbps version is getting 8.
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It’s now confirmed. Bell has released a statement indicating that the Motorola ATRIX is going to be available on March 17th. As for the price points: $169.95 on a 3-year (with a minimum $50 voice/data plan) or for $599.95 on no-contract. Bell will also sell the Lapdock and the HD Multimedia Dock but no word on those prices were announced.
Specs of this Android have it coming with OS 2.2 with Motoblur, 1GHz NVIDIA Tegra 2 Dual-Core processor, 1GB RAM and 1930 mAh battery, Flash Player 10.1, 5-megapixel rear-facing camera with LED flash and 720p HD video recording, VGA front-facing camera, holds up to 48GB with a microSD card (16GB internal and optional 32GB), WiFi.
Who’s buying?
http://mobilesyrup.com/2011/03/04/confirmed-bell-releasing-motorola-atrix-march-17th-for-599-95/
Heres to hoping it has HSUPA enabled.
leadguy68 said:
Heres to hoping it has HSUPA enabled.
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It's not on AT&T, so it will probably not be crippled.
zorxd said:
It's not on AT&T, so it will probably not be crippled.
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HA!
You obviously don't know Canadian cell phone carriers. Bell removed FFC's from some Samsung phones. Did you notice... 3 year contract. AT&T ... 2 year.
Think AT&T is bad... at least you have real choice in the states.
yea canadian providers are the worst! - I do love Wind and Mobilicity though
As an american living in canada the US has far better cell phone service, I just wish motorola made a version that worked on wind because that's what I use... 40/mo for unlimited voice/texts/data is too hard to beat =)
Still, it's nice to see they're releasing it so soon after the US release, usually canada has to wait MONTHS for a phone to hit their side of the border.
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yea canadian providers are the worst! - I do love Wind and Mobilicity though
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They are great. If you live in a metropolitan area. I'm juuust outside Oshawa, the Wind Zone ends 3 blocks from my house. Not good if I'm getting say groceries and need to call home to see if my wife needs something.
Or travelling. As much as I hate Rogers, my data usage in the states comes off my monthly balance
Well captivate owners waited months hoping for a hsupa modem from its canadian brother....no dice
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I'm in Halifax and was about to outbid someone on ebay.... a few questions though:
1) So, can I purchase an unlock code for it?
2) Also, what GSM/3G bands will it support?
3) Finally, no 4G??
Pretty sure you can get an unlock code for any phone out there... just a matter of price. In Toronto you can just go to pacific mall and a ton of places can get it for 10 bucks or so. There's some online sites that work too but it's a bit riskier.
It'll most likely be the same exact phone that AT&T has in terms of hardware since Bell/Rogers/Telus all use the same 3G frequencies now.
And for 4G... does any carrier in canada even have 4G yet?
TareX said:
I'm in Halifax and was about to outbid someone on ebay.... a few questions though:
1) So, can I purchase an unlock code for it?
2) Also, what GSM/3G bands will it support?
3) Finally, no 4G??
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I'm definitely buying this beast. Hoping to get it on the 17th. Been waiting since CES...
4G is a marketing gimic that means whatever you want it to.
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Here's hoping we can extract the bell atrix's firmware and flash it on the gringo version to enable faster upload speeds. Designgears, what do you think?
Confirmed from Bell:
Here are the connectivity details:
•HSPA –global access
•GPRS / EDGE 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
•UMTS 850/1900/2100 MHz
•Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n, GPS, Bluetooth, DLNA
He'll let me know how I can unlock it in the next email...
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And for 4G... does any carrier in canada even have 4G yet?
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The announcement says: "...on Canada's Best Network with the fastest 4G speeds and largest 4G coverage..."
So I dunno why they dropped the "4G" part of the name...
http://www.cnw.ca/en/releases/archive/March2011/04/c8005.html
http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/story/2011/03/02/bell-hspa-4g-network.html
Guess you've fallen for their marketing ploy... quite sure bell isn't even 3.5G. Yet they label anything faster (theoretically) than 3mbps as 4G when traditional 3G maxes out at 7.2mbps.
TareX said:
The announcement says: "...on Canada's Best Network with the fastest 4G speeds and largest 4G coverage..."
So I dunno why they dropped the "4G" part of the name...
http://www.cnw.ca/en/releases/archive/March2011/04/c8005.html
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I definately dont get 3mbs
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Well, getting an unlocked, rooted Atrix 4G from the US will cost me CAD $650 ... while getting it locked from Bell would cost me CAD $600.... I'm not sure if $50 is worth worrying about unlockability and rooting...
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Guess you've fallen for their marketing ploy... quite sure bell isn't even 3.5G. Yet they label anything faster (theoretically) than 3mbps as 4G when traditional 3G maxes out at 7.2mbps.
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It's like how AT&T is doing it, calling their HSPA+ 4G.
I was wondering about rooting the Atrix. The AT&T version is already rooted, would the same rooting method work for the Bell version? Would this only work if they have the exact same firmware for 2.2? I remember when I manually install updates for my Nexus One, I had to wait for the AT&T update to come out since the firmware was different than the TMo version. This was before the versions were merged. So I'm wondering if this is the case? Or does this have no relevance?
Will be getting the Bell's Atrix on the 17!
will this work on tmobile's 3G?
And still no real news as to release date??
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Were 3 days in to October can't wait until the 24th so Samsung can announce the release date . I'm waiting for the Verizon variant
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Though I'm with T-Mobile (not AT&T) I am really looking forward to T-Mobile's release of the Note 2. I'd initially thought I would be using my Note 2 as a WiFi device only to replace my 10.1" tablet but I'm now finding the Note 2 to be an excellent platform for a phone as well. As long as T-Mobile includes WiFi calling and their version is stable I'll be selling my HTC Sensation 4G and upgrading to their version of the Note 2. My boy wants to replace his iPad2 with a WiFi only Note 2. I get the T-Mobile Note 2, my boy trades me his iPad2 for my unlocked international Note2, and I sell the iPad2 and my HTC phone to absorb some of the cost. I'm really looking forward to moving everything over to the Note2 (phone', data, tablet functions ). November perhaps?
I couldn't wait for the AT&T one... Went ahead and bit the bullet and purchased from UK. Hoping the HSPA+ is kinder to battery life to help make up for the lack of LTE. So far HSPA+ has been fine for me and I am lovin the Note II!!!
I'm waiting on the AT&T version also. Anyone want to guess what it would cost to buy it out right from AT&T(Amazon) with no contract? I may wait a month to see if it drops a few bucks.
Those of you who still have unlimited data through AT&T. Is it correct that on LTE after 5gigs they throttle you but on 3G they throttle you after 3gigs.
How does the throttling of LTE work? Will they throttle you down from LTE to 3G or can you turn off LTE and then you get to burn through 3gigs 3G data too for a total of 8GB or is it when they throttle you you get throttled all the way down to EDGE like speeds?
649$,,IF SO BETTER OFF TO GET INTERNATIONAL,sorry for caps,I'll just wait it out and see any differences.
Why would it be better to get the international version if the AT&T is $649? Is it cheaper or something. I'm in the states and don't travel over seas, although I don't live in a LTE city I often visit one that does. Also I think if order from Amazon I can take advantage of the sales tax loop hole and not pay that or shipping.
AT&T is also my carrier
I agree with Daps I will wait for the at&t version. Unless there some big downfall like the at&t s3 there's no reason to get the international! But really what is the International version now? It seems like there are so many variations of the Note 2 I'm not really sure anymore! Maybe the us version will be the most sought after version and get exported to the rest of the world and have the most development support! ...... Okay well a guy can hope can't he...... Lol
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Deaj said:
Though I'm with T-Mobile (not AT&T) I am really looking forward to T-Mobile's release of the Note 2. I'd initially thought I would be using my Note 2 as a WiFi device only to replace my 10.1" tablet but I'm now finding the Note 2 to be an excellent platform for a phone as well. As long as T-Mobile includes WiFi calling and their version is stable I'll be selling my HTC Sensation 4G and upgrading to their version of the Note 2. My boy wants to replace his iPad2 with a WiFi only Note 2. I get the T-Mobile Note 2, my boy trades me his iPad2 for my unlocked international Note2, and I sell the iPad2 and my HTC phone to absorb some of the cost. I'm really looking forward to moving everything over to the Note2 (phone', data, tablet functions ). November perhaps?
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I'm in the same situation as you, waiting very patiently for a T-Mobile version (I NEED Wifi Calling... most ingenious idea EVER) while I try to dredge through the days with my Sensation 4G... I really hope it comes out early November... I don't think i can wait any longer!
Also looking for AT&T variant
I have GNote International now, on AT&T and want LTE GNote2.
I expect it w/b offered at $299 wt 2 year contract BUT do you think Amazon will ever have AT&T version at off contract pricing?
And if so, how long might it take for Amazon to get it after it is officially available from AT&T?
Thanks,
eroracing said:
I agree with Daps I will wait for the at&t version. Unless there some big downfall like the at&t s3 there's no reason to get the international! But really what is the International version now? It seems like there are so many variations of the Note 2 I'm not really sure anymore! Maybe the us version will be the most sought after version and get exported to the rest of the world and have the most development support! ...... Okay well a guy can hope can't he...... Lol
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International version on AT&T (N7100) : HSPA speeds quad core + 2 gb ram
US version (N7105): LTE speeds, quad core + 2gb ram
No confusion anymore
claude4 said:
I have GNote International now, on AT&T and want LTE GNote2.
I expect it w/b offered at $299 wt 2 year contract BUT do you think Amazon will ever have AT&T version at off contract pricing?
And if so, how long might it take for Amazon to get it after it is officially available from AT&T?
Thanks,
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I'm sure they will. I seem to remember seeing the SIII and you could get it off contract. How long I have no clue. As much as I hate to wait.
CrozB said:
I couldn't wait for the AT&T one... Went ahead and bit the bullet and purchased from UK. Hoping the HSPA+ is kinder to battery life to help make up for the lack of LTE. So far HSPA+ has been fine for me and I am lovin the Note II!!!
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Specs on Samsung website state that HSPA+/LTE phones get about 7-15% less battery than 3G/LTE Note 2's. I wonder if that is because HSPA+ and it's variants drain more battery because it is faster, or the 3G/LTE antenna needs less power since 3G and LTE are both Qualcomm's technology probably needing one less antenna.
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Anyone know if the ATT version of the Note 2 will have the middle button like the international Note 1?
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Anyone know if the ATT version of the Note 2 will have the middle button like the international Note 1?
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It will be exactly identical to the Euro version.( minus the logo on the back cover)
Daps said:
I'm waiting on the AT&T version also. Anyone want to guess what it would cost to buy it out right from AT&T(Amazon) with no contract? I may wait a month to see if it drops a few bucks.
Those of you who still have unlimited data through AT&T. Is it correct that on LTE after 5gigs they throttle you but on 3G they throttle you after 3gigs.
How does the throttling of LTE work? Will they throttle you down from LTE to 3G or can you turn off LTE and then you get to burn through 3gigs 3G data too for a total of 8GB or is it when they throttle you you get throttled all the way down to EDGE like speeds?
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I usually purchase off contract with att. On Amazon the prices can be a bit higher initially for off contract. I usually get it from att or best buy as best buy is usually higher but will match the price. I just find it easier to switch it out locally in the first 30 days if there is an issue. I suspect 650 on att and slightly higher on amazon initially.
You are correct on the limits. I have not been throttled on my unlimited lte plan because I use wifi often. I have not used over 2.5 GB. I believe they used to throttle you to edge but now it is to 3g until the next monthly cycle starts over.
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planoman said:
I usually purchase off contract with att. On Amazon the prices can be a bit higher initially for off contract. I usually get it from att or best buy as best buy is usually higher but will match the price. I just find it easier to switch it out locally in the first 30 days if there is an issue. I suspect 650 on att and slightly higher on amazon initially.
You are correct on the limits. I have not been throttled on my unlimited lte plan because I use wifi often. I have not used over 2.5 GB. I believe they used to throttle you to edge but now it is to 3g until the next monthly cycle starts over.
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Thanks. If it's $650 on AT&T I'll just buy it there or go to BestBuy and get them to price match as I got a buddy who works there. You're right about the switching out. I have a cousin who is a AT&T manager but not on the wireless side. I wonder if she get's discounts on phones. I'd send her the money to get me one if the discount was large enough.
Same boat as you. I've never been throttled because I'm on Wifi most of the time also. So you're saying if I'm on LTE and use my 5GB, they'll throttle me to 3G? I'd never use that much on my phone but it's nice to have.
AT&T does need to speed up their LTE roll out. Verizon already has LTE here. Saw it on a coworkers iPhone5
So T-Mobile USA has been branding their improved HSPA+ as 4G for quite a while and they have also been making physical changes to phones to get them to support up to 42mbps. Now it appears that they are doing the same to the Nexus 4.
In theory, 21mbps is plenty fast and in fact faster than most LTE phones get as actual download speed today but of course 21 is not actual speed. So with AT&T for example, you could be on their LTE network with a max speed much higher than 21 but actually get 15mbps while their HSPA+ network with max speed of 21 would give you only 4-5.
My question for anyone that knows this issue well: Is it the same case with TMobile's network? If you get the stock Nexus 4 capped at 21mbps and someone with a tmobile 42mbps phone is getting an actual speed of 15mbps, are you likely to get the same 15 or something lower?
TIA, Babak
You will get lower.
I have a gnex with 21 Mbps and before that I had a mytouch 4g with 14.4Mbps. Without changing the location (boston) where I was using T-mobile's network I see faster (not huge increase) network speeds with the Gnex.
BUT Google has the Tech specs sheet https://sites.google.com/site/androidpresssite/home/tech-specs
And here it seems that the Nexus 4 on the play store will be the exact same model as the T-mobile version (42Mbps) so I think everyone gets the good speeds (I hope!)
The question is...is the specs on the google play page a typo or a hidden feature (42Mbps via software/radio flash) or a different phone (SKU etc)?
If there is a special N4 phone for TMO, then, there will be different FCC reports indicating as such. One for the Play Store and one for TMo. We'll just have to keep an eye out and see.
I'm coming from a GNex and I haven't any complaints w.r.t. download speeds.
What I find really lame is the pricing that TMo has set if you buy their phone. Right now it is rumored to be $200 + $20 for 20 months. Currently, there is no full buy-out price except for what is listed on the Play Store.
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You will get lower.
I have a gnex with 21 Mbps and before that I had a mytouch 4g with 14.4Mbps. Without changing the location (boston) where I was using T-mobile's network I see faster (not huge increase) network speeds with the Gnex.
BUT Google has the Tech specs sheet https://sites.google.com/site/androidpresssite/home/tech-specs
And here it seems that the Nexus 4 on the play store will be the exact same model as the T-mobile version (42Mbps) so I think everyone gets the good speeds (I hope!)
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Thank you very much for that insight. I haven't verified this independently but this implies that it's not the same phone and that the Play Store version will not get 42mbps:
http://phandroid.com/2012/10/29/t-mobile-nexus-4-price/
The price also implies that it can't be the same device!
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The question is...is the specs on the google play page a typo or a hidden feature (42Mbps via software/radio flash) or a different phone (SKU etc)?
If there is a special N4 phone for TMO, then, there will be different FCC reports indicating as such. One for the Play Store and one for TMo. We'll just have to keep an eye out and see.
I'm coming from a GNex and I haven't any complaints w.r.t. download speeds.
What I find really lame is the pricing that TMo has set if you buy their phone. Right now it is rumored to be $200 + $20 for 20 months. Currently, there is no full buy-out price except for what is listed on the Play Store.
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Exactly! See my post above, but looking at previous pricing by TMO, it does appear that the retail price can't be only $350. If it was, this would come out to an APR of 132%!!!
bmozaffari said:
Exactly! See my post above, but looking at previous pricing by TMO, it does appear that the retail price can't be only $350. If it was, this would come out to an APR of 132%!!!
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Looks like the phone from the Play Store does support 42Mbps..
http://www.androidcentral.com/fyi-nexus-4-rocks-42-mbps
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First, the radio speed is a maximum potential speed in ideal conditions. If you take a phone with a 21mbps radio, paired with a tower capable of 21mbps, you'd need to be under ideal conditions to get anywhere near it. I have a 21mbps radio in my SGS 2, but I'm on AT&T Medianet, so the best I've seen is around 7-7.5mbps (I suspect that 7.2 is the cap on Medianet). My wife has an iPhone 4s with a 14mbps radio, and the best I've seen on hers (legita unlimited plan unlike my medianet) was 8-9mbps.
As far as I remember, AT&T only supports up to 21mbps, so phones with a 21 or 42mbps radio on AT&T will have the same performance. But, a 42mbps radio on T-Mobile's 42mbps network will see higher performance than a phone with a 21mbps radio on the same network. I have seen people here and on other forums show off speedtest results in excess of 20mbps on T-Mobile's network. Naturally, your speeds will come down to many factors, to include obstructions, signal strength, distance to tower, local network congestion, swamp gas reflecting off venus, etc.
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Only the tmobile version will support hspa42
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there is no such thing as a "tmo" version.
Well thanks to those who've confirmed that there is indeed a speed difference even under 21mbps between a TMO and standard phone but as far as the Nexus 4 in the Play Store, I'm no less confused...
It appears to me that come November 13, Play Store will feature a TMO version at a higher price but I'm not 100% sure yet.
bmozaffari said:
Well thanks to those who've confirmed that there is indeed a speed difference even under 21mbps between a TMO and standard phone but as far as the Nexus 4 in the Play Store, I'm no less confused...
It appears to me that come November 13, Play Store will feature a TMO version at a higher price but I'm not 100% sure yet.
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If, and I do mean if, there are two versions, the T-Mobile "version" (which would just have different radios) would be directly from T-Mobile, probably not in the Play store. Probably.
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If, and I do mean if, there are two versions, the T-Mobile "version" (which would just have different radios) would be directly from T-Mobile, probably not in the Play store. Probably.
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See the availability section in the bottom, it does say it will be available in the Play Store as well as select T-Mobile stores:
http://www.tmonews.com/2012/10/t-mobile-confirms-nexus-4-hspa-42mbps-connectivity/
So is HSPA+ 42Mbps the same thing as having DC-HSDPA?
I am wondering and hoping so. Right now I use Vodafone here in Australia and the new 3G+ network has DC-HSPDA but only the dreaded Apple devices support it so far.
Odd.
On the Play Store, it claims pentaband HSPA+21.
On the TMO announcement, it claims quad-band HSPA+42.
Either there are different radios, or there's a typo on one or both spec sheets.
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So is HSPA+ 42Mbps the same thing as having DC-HSDPA?
I am wondering and hoping so. Right now I use Vodafone here in Australia and the new 3G+ network has DC-HSPDA but only the dreaded Apple devices support it so far.
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I don't think so. DC appears to be dual cell whereas TMO has its own made-up thing that no Apple product supports.
jaykresge said:
Odd.
On the Play Store, it claims pentaband HSPA+21.
On the TMO announcement, it claims quad-band HSPA+42.
Either there are different radios, or there's a typo on one or both spec sheets.
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I think it is a typo or something that needs to be added to the spec sheet on the play store. If there is a "TMo version" aka different SKUs, then, it will pop up in the FCC reports.
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On the TMO announcement, it claims quad-band HSPA+42.
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It says "quad band" but then it lists 5 different bands, so that's clearly just a typo.
There is only one version of this phone being sold worldwide. People are reading way too much into what are clearly typos.
drumist said:
It says "quad band" but then it lists 5 different bands, so that's clearly just a typo.
There is only one version of this phone being sold worldwide. People are reading way too much into what are clearly typos.
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FWIW, that has never happened before. There has never been a phone sold by anyone other than TMO (or at least expressly for use on TMO) that has had support for 42mbps on their network. On the other hand, if I recall correctly, Google did sell different models of Nexus One for AT&T and TMO on their own site.
bmozaffari said:
FWIW, that has never happened before. There has never been a phone sold by anyone other than TMO (or at least expressly for use on TMO) that has had support for 42mbps on their network. On the other hand, if I recall correctly, Google did sell different models of Nexus One for AT&T and TMO on their own site.
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Not true, the miui phone supports dchspa and I'm pretty sure the iPhone does too. The unlocked version.
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bmozaffari said:
FWIW, that has never happened before. There has never been a phone sold by anyone other than TMO (or at least expressly for use on TMO) that has had support for 42mbps on their network. On the other hand, if I recall correctly, Google did sell different models of Nexus One for AT&T and TMO on their own site.
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Right, but the Nexus One wasn't pentaband. It just doesn't make any sense to make a 21mbps version and a 42mbps version, when literally nothing else is different.
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BennyJr said:
Not true, the miui phone supports dchspa and I'm pretty sure the iPhone does too. The unlocked version.
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The iPhone 5 supports DC-HSDPA, but doesn't support T-Mobile's primary 3G frequency band. So you would only be able to get a 3G signal in select areas that have T-Mobile 1900MHz 3G towers, which aren't in many areas yet.
T-Mobile confirmed their version runs HSPA+ 42, how about the unlocked version from Play Store directly?
http://www.tmonews.com/2012/10/t-mobile-confirms-nexus-4-hspa-42mbps-connectivity/
Update: According to Google’s press release, the Play Store Nexus 4 does in fact have HSPA+ 42Mbps connectivity as well, it’s the Play Store specs that are incorrect.
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Related to tmobile:
Will the tmobile version have wifi calling? Or will it be vanilla android?
Just want to make sure before i buy
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ap3604 said:
http://www.tmonews.com/2012/10/t-mobile-confirms-nexus-4-hspa-42mbps-connectivity/
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Thanks! added bonus!
Terrible article. Still no real sign of confirmation.
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There isn't really any evidence that it is. Would be nice if true. Engadget is reporting the unlocked version is 42mbps.
They're the same phone. The only reason T-Mobile is the only carrier selling it is because they're the only carrier that'll sell you an unlocked phone just like they did with the Nexus S when it came out T-Mobile was the only carrier that would let you get it subsidized under contract. AT&T just didn't feel like subsidizing the price for an unlocked device so they're making you buy it elsewhere if you want to run it on their network.
It would make no sense for Google to sell the Nexus 4 on their website and only allow HSPA+ 21 instead of 42.
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Related to tmobile:
Will the tmobile version have wifi calling? Or will it be vanilla android?
Just want to make sure before i buy
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Vanilla Android
Would like to know more about this as well. No LTE is dissapointing but if it can do 42Mb hspa I can probably live with it.
joooooeeeee said:
Would like to know more about this as well. No LTE is dissapointing but if it can do 42Mb hspa I can probably live with it.
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Looks like they corrected the play store. It now says HSPA +42. :victory: :highfive:
https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=nexus_4_16gb
felito6985 said:
Looks like they corrected the play store. It now says HSPA +42. :victory: :highfive:
https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=nexus_4_16gb
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Finally confirmed so selling my s3 for this
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joooooeeeee said:
Would like to know more about this as well. No LTE is dissapointing but if it can do 42Mb hspa I can probably live with it.
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Right, because 42mb is slow.
42Mbps, play store updated
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/1...-hspa42-updates-play-store-pages-accordingly/
Right, because 42mb is slow.
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I never said it was slow.
Thanks.
play store now shows hspa+ 42
What about HSPA+ 21? since it also works on AT&T
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What about HSPA+ 21? since it also works on AT&T
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Technically it'll still get the AT&T HSPA+ 21Mbps, just that you're losing out a little bit since the phone could easily reach 42Mbps on the right network without a hit on battery life.
Does any one know if the N7100 unlocked version will work with AT&T 4G daga? I know LTE is impossible. I broke my Galaxy S3, trying to figure out should I buy the AT&T one or the unlocked version.
N7100 unlocked works fine on ATT network. I am using it now on Straight talk which is using ATT. Of course no LTE, but Im averaging between 5 and 6 mbps.
Thanks, do you think it is close to 4g or hspa?
Just want to make sure its not like 3G lol.
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N7100 unlocked works fine on ATT network. I am using it now on Straight talk which is using ATT. Of course no LTE, but Im averaging between 5 and 6 mbps.
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benzso63 said:
Thanks, do you think it is close to 4g or hspa?
Just want to make sure its not like 3G lol.
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Depends on your area. You will get what you getting on gs3. More than likely 2-5mbps.
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I will be coming over to the US next month (specifically LA), and I am carrying international Note 2 N700 unlocked.
Would AT&T Straight Talk be the best bet for me in terms of speeds and call rates? Where do I pick up the Straight talk SIM from?
Thanks!
Mybwifes s3 gets about 7-8 meg down speeds while I average between 2 to 4. For some its OK. We are on the other side of the US in MD. Speeds could be faster in CA.
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sids911 said:
I will be coming over to the US next month (specifically LA), and I am carrying international Note 2 N700 unlocked.
Would AT&T Straight Talk be the best bet for me in terms of speeds and call rates? Where do I pick up the Straight talk SIM from?
Thanks!
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I'd imagine any corporate store would have them, but I dunno how they'll handle it. They may try to upsell you all sorts of stuff or tell you you need a special plan if you tell them it's going in a Note 2. I'd just ask for a prepaid micro-SIM.
Thanks, but can I buy Straightalk SIM in an AT&T store? I thought it was a different company!
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Thanks, do you think it is close to 4g or hspa?
Just want to make sure its not like 3G lol.
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Nope. Even if you're just going to use hsdpa the n7105 is better as it has dc-hsdpa capability so it'll be up to twice as fast in areas att have rolled out dc-hsdpa.
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I have not seen anything Straight talk related that was sold in an ATT store. I have been told that they sell the sim cards for straight talk at walmart. I have yet to see that as well. I ordered mine from straighttalk.com
As far as data speeds go, you will get hspa+ and nothing more. Varies from place to place but for me averages around 5mb