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Confirmed: Bell releasing Motorola ATRIX March 17th

It’s now confirmed. Bell has released a statement indicating that the Motorola ATRIX is going to be available on March 17th. As for the price points: $169.95 on a 3-year (with a minimum $50 voice/data plan) or for $599.95 on no-contract. Bell will also sell the Lapdock and the HD Multimedia Dock but no word on those prices were announced.
Specs of this Android have it coming with OS 2.2 with Motoblur, 1GHz NVIDIA Tegra 2 Dual-Core processor, 1GB RAM and 1930 mAh battery, Flash Player 10.1, 5-megapixel rear-facing camera with LED flash and 720p HD video recording, VGA front-facing camera, holds up to 48GB with a microSD card (16GB internal and optional 32GB), WiFi.
Who’s buying?
http://mobilesyrup.com/2011/03/04/confirmed-bell-releasing-motorola-atrix-march-17th-for-599-95/

Heres to hoping it has HSUPA enabled.

leadguy68 said:
Heres to hoping it has HSUPA enabled.
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It's not on AT&T, so it will probably not be crippled.

zorxd said:
It's not on AT&T, so it will probably not be crippled.
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HA!
You obviously don't know Canadian cell phone carriers. Bell removed FFC's from some Samsung phones. Did you notice... 3 year contract. AT&T ... 2 year.
Think AT&T is bad... at least you have real choice in the states.

yea canadian providers are the worst! - I do love Wind and Mobilicity though

As an american living in canada the US has far better cell phone service, I just wish motorola made a version that worked on wind because that's what I use... 40/mo for unlimited voice/texts/data is too hard to beat =)
Still, it's nice to see they're releasing it so soon after the US release, usually canada has to wait MONTHS for a phone to hit their side of the border.

fr0z3n said:
yea canadian providers are the worst! - I do love Wind and Mobilicity though
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They are great. If you live in a metropolitan area. I'm juuust outside Oshawa, the Wind Zone ends 3 blocks from my house. Not good if I'm getting say groceries and need to call home to see if my wife needs something.
Or travelling. As much as I hate Rogers, my data usage in the states comes off my monthly balance

Well captivate owners waited months hoping for a hsupa modem from its canadian brother....no dice
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I'm in Halifax and was about to outbid someone on ebay.... a few questions though:
1) So, can I purchase an unlock code for it?
2) Also, what GSM/3G bands will it support?
3) Finally, no 4G??

Pretty sure you can get an unlock code for any phone out there... just a matter of price. In Toronto you can just go to pacific mall and a ton of places can get it for 10 bucks or so. There's some online sites that work too but it's a bit riskier.
It'll most likely be the same exact phone that AT&T has in terms of hardware since Bell/Rogers/Telus all use the same 3G frequencies now.
And for 4G... does any carrier in canada even have 4G yet?
TareX said:
I'm in Halifax and was about to outbid someone on ebay.... a few questions though:
1) So, can I purchase an unlock code for it?
2) Also, what GSM/3G bands will it support?
3) Finally, no 4G??
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I'm definitely buying this beast. Hoping to get it on the 17th. Been waiting since CES...

4G is a marketing gimic that means whatever you want it to.
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Here's hoping we can extract the bell atrix's firmware and flash it on the gringo version to enable faster upload speeds. Designgears, what do you think?

Confirmed from Bell:
Here are the connectivity details:
•HSPA –global access
•GPRS / EDGE 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
•UMTS 850/1900/2100 MHz
•Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n, GPS, Bluetooth, DLNA
He'll let me know how I can unlock it in the next email...

dinan said:
And for 4G... does any carrier in canada even have 4G yet?
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The announcement says: "...on Canada's Best Network with the fastest 4G speeds and largest 4G coverage..."
So I dunno why they dropped the "4G" part of the name...
http://www.cnw.ca/en/releases/archive/March2011/04/c8005.html

http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/story/2011/03/02/bell-hspa-4g-network.html
Guess you've fallen for their marketing ploy... quite sure bell isn't even 3.5G. Yet they label anything faster (theoretically) than 3mbps as 4G when traditional 3G maxes out at 7.2mbps.
TareX said:
The announcement says: "...on Canada's Best Network with the fastest 4G speeds and largest 4G coverage..."
So I dunno why they dropped the "4G" part of the name...
http://www.cnw.ca/en/releases/archive/March2011/04/c8005.html
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I definately dont get 3mbs
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Well, getting an unlocked, rooted Atrix 4G from the US will cost me CAD $650 ... while getting it locked from Bell would cost me CAD $600.... I'm not sure if $50 is worth worrying about unlockability and rooting...

dinan said:
Guess you've fallen for their marketing ploy... quite sure bell isn't even 3.5G. Yet they label anything faster (theoretically) than 3mbps as 4G when traditional 3G maxes out at 7.2mbps.
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It's like how AT&T is doing it, calling their HSPA+ 4G.
I was wondering about rooting the Atrix. The AT&T version is already rooted, would the same rooting method work for the Bell version? Would this only work if they have the exact same firmware for 2.2? I remember when I manually install updates for my Nexus One, I had to wait for the AT&T update to come out since the firmware was different than the TMo version. This was before the versions were merged. So I'm wondering if this is the case? Or does this have no relevance?
Will be getting the Bell's Atrix on the 17!

will this work on tmobile's 3G?

[Q] What's the difference between Motorola Atrix 4G and Motorola Atrix

gsmarena.com/motorola_atrix_4g-3708.php
gsmarena.com/motorola_atrix-3709.php
[Sorry i couldn't put links properly because i'm new here and looks like don't have enough post.]
As you can see from the links there is another Motorola Atrix on gsmarena and it's not even released yet. I'm looking at the specifications but they're almost same except some unsignificant differences. I assume Motorola Atrix without 4g is a universal version?
Thanks and sorry if a made a mistake about my language

fehim said:
gsmarena.com/motorola_atrix_4g-3708.php
gsmarena.com/motorola_atrix-3709.php
[Sorry i couldn't put links properly because i'm new here and looks like don't have enough post.]
As you can see from the links there is another Motorola Atrix on gsmarena and it's not even released yet. I'm looking at the specifications but they're almost same except some unsignificant differences. I assume Motorola Atrix without 4g is a universal version?
Thanks and sorry if a made a mistake about my language
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Guessing from the 3G network bands the "universal" version has it is going to be on a Canadian network that doesn't have 4G yet or maybe Telstra in Australia???

they're the same thing. The "4G" was just added by AT&T for marketing reasons.

dLo GSR said:
they're the same thing. The "4G" was just added by AT&T for marketing reasons.
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Yes, you might be right. It looks as if the Atrix on Bell is just listed as an Atrix without the 4G

bell has the same fake 4G network AT&T does, hspa+. both bell and att atrix are the exact same hardware.

neotekz said:
bell has the same fake 4G network AT&T does, hspa+. both bell and att atrix are the exact same hardware.
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But they're named differently

live4nyy said:
But they're named differently
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because Bell isn't in a marketing race to bring out 4G like in the US; we have T-Mobile to thank for that here.

live4nyy said:
But they're named differently
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If you remove the "S" emblem off a Porsche Cayenne S with a heat gun its still a turbo charged Cayenne .

Clienterror said:
If you remove the "S" emblem off a Porsche Cayenne S with a heat gun its still a turbo charged Cayenne .
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i don't see what you're point is. I'm just saying that they are named differently which is why it shows up on GSMArena twice, that's all

live4nyy said:
Guessing from the 3G network bands the "universal" version has it is going to be on a Canadian network that doesn't have 4G yet or maybe Telstra in Australia???
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Nah, 4G is just AT&T's label for 3.5G. I have the Atrix 4G and it works for all carriers in Australia, but Telstra supports HSPDA+ so it gets faster speed for the phone.

ikenley said:
Nah, 4G is just AT&T's label for 3.5G. I have the Atrix 4G and it works for all carriers in Australia, but Telstra supports HSPDA+ so it gets faster speed for the phone.
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I was just guessing

live4nyy said:
i don't see what you're point is. I'm just saying that they are named differently which is why it shows up on GSMArena twice, that's all
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Ah gotcha!
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are you tmobile customers ready for some badass phones?!!!!

http://www.engadget.com/2011/12/20/...dts-seven-year-umts-roaming-agreement-gets-d/
What that basically does is TMO and ATT will SHARE the spectrum, meaning their phones have to have the same bands, and you guys know that ATT gets most of the cool phones and TMO usually gets nothing but Galaxy S series as its top of the line phone.
That's really good news, i actually like it.
discuss?

Is there a list of what towers TMO received.

Does this mean i can use an unlocked international phone with 2100 mhz HSPA+ on t-mobile and still get 3G?

Tmobile gonna have iphone now? Hells yeah

Sweet news. T-mobile just surprised me with a comeback!

Wait, how does this mean we get their phones too? Is it just because we're gonna share the same network?
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Nabeel10 said:
Wait, how does this mean we get their phones too? Is it just because we're gonna share the same network?
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This is only good if answer to my question above is yes. I mean can we use unlocked world phones? I can get a used galaxy s2 international version and use on t mobile. That will be awesome!

Nabeel10 said:
Wait, how does this mean we get their phones too? Is it just because we're gonna share the same network?
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It'll be sharing the same spectrum, meaning their phones will be compatible with TMO's network.
rakeshchn said:
This is only good if answer to my question above is yes. I mean can we use unlocked world phones? I can get a used galaxy s2 international version and use on t mobile. That will be awesome!
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I honestly can't answer that, but just opinion wise, i think thats a no. International phones have different bands than that of ATT or TMO, but if ATT gets a phone that we don't (iphone) we SHOULD be able to use it.

They aren't sharing spectrum, they have a roaming deal. Which is totally different.

T-Mobile has had some nice phone though, didn't we have the first dual core? The Sensation, Amaze, G2X, and SGS2 are all top of the line.
Just curious though, wouldn't this mean that At&t's already terrible data speeds will become worse, since more people will be using the same spectrum?

My unlocked 3gs is still just hitting edge..guess im not in the area affected by this.
*puts iphone back in dusty corner*
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jamesd86 said:
My unlocked 3gs is still just hitting edge..guess im not in the area affected by this.
*puts iphone back in dusty corner*
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Pretty sure it hasn't happened yet.
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Most of the current international phones are compatible with ATTs 2100 mhz HSPA+ network. Not LTE though. But i think what this new arrangement is to use ATT towers only for roaming where tmobile towers are not available. All t mobile phones do support the 2100 band, so that makes sense. But Att phones cannot work on tmobile 3G/HSPA+ 850 mhz band.

rakeshchn said:
Most of the current international phones are compatible with ATTs 2100 mhz HSPA+ network. Not LTE though. But i think what this new arrangement is to use ATT towers only for roaming where tmobile towers are not available. All t mobile phones do support the 2100 band, so that makes sense. But Att phones cannot work on tmobile 3G/HSPA+ 850 mhz band.
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Yep. I wouldn't go buying an AT&T device just yet. They're not merging their networks. They're just letting TMo customers use their network in some areas. This isn't a full frequency overlap of the companies' networks as the OP is implying.

Guys get a Windows Phone 7 phone!
So smoooth and sliickk!!! Lol
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VeryCoolAlan said:
Guys get a Windows Phone 7 phone!
So smoooth and sliickk!!! Lol
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Lol. By the way, did you guys know that a Windows phone can have it's messaging app destroyed via a text message? Check out this video...

N00B_IN_N33D said:
Lol. By the way, did you guys know that a Windows phone can have it's messaging app destroyed via a text message? Check out this video...
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...hey alan can i have your number? >.>

Wow Alan, figured that's why you've been so quiet lately +.+
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Sharing Spectrum
heygrl said:
They aren't sharing spectrum, they have a roaming deal. Which is totally different.
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I think they are going to be sharing "some" spectrum. It has already started:
http://www.evdoinfo.com/content/view/3887/64/

zoid_99 said:
I think they are going to be sharing "some" spectrum. It has already started:
http://www.evdoinfo.com/content/view/3887/64/
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That's their own spectrum and has nothing to do with AT&T.

T mobile nexus 4 vs play store nexus 4

Will there be any difference between the 2? Is the one from the play store able to work on all of t mobiles frequencies? Thanks.
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By looking at the specs on the Google play store I'd say the lg nexus 4 should be able to operate on any north american providers gsm/HSPA+ services.

from the info out so far, it seems like T-Mobile's version will support their 42 mbps HSPA+ network while the Play Store version is only 21 mbps.
with that being said, i find it hard to believe that Google would sell this phone with 2 different radios. this same line of thinking is one of the reasons Google didn't include LTE on the Nexus 4.
i'm hoping (and assuming) that the Play Store version supports 42 mbps. if not, at least maybe some software hack could unlock 42 mbps access.
ugh, i just bought the Note 2...now debating on whether or not to return and get the Nexus 4.

tuffCookie said:
from the info out so far, it seems like T-Mobile's version will support their 42 mbps HSPA+ network while the Play Store version is only 21 mbps.
with that being said, i find it hard to believe that Google would sell this phone with 2 different radios. this same line of thinking is one of the reasons Google didn't include LTE on the Nexus 4.
i'm hoping (and assuming) that the Play Store version supports 42 mbps. if not, at least maybe some software hack could unlock 42 mbps access.
ugh, i just bought the Note 2...now debating on whether or not to return and get the Nexus 4.
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Yeah, I really hope the HSPA+42 one will be made available for the same price as the HSPA+21 one since I am using T-Mobile.

Euler MD said:
Yeah, I really hope the HSPA+42 one will be made available for the same price as the HSPA+21 one since I am using T-Mobile.
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I really would like to know this too. I'm switching to T-Mobile for this phone and I need to know where to buy my phone from.

im confused on this 2...i was hoping to change into the $30 monthly plan no contract on hspa+ but...which one is it?

judoka209 said:
I really would like to know this too. I'm switching to T-Mobile for this phone and I need to know where to buy my phone from.
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The play store
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I really hope the one in playstore tmobiles 42mbps, i will instantly pay my ETF with tmobile and switch to the $30 monthly plan!

Euler MD said:
Yeah, I really hope the HSPA+42 one will be made available for the same price as the HSPA+21 one since I am using T-Mobile.
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Already announced!
http://www.androidcentral.com/fyi-nexus-4-rocks-42-mbps

I'll be ecstatic if t-mobile includes Wifi UMA calling for the Tmobile release.

The T-Mobile version will be sporting the 42mbps radio, I'm torn between the Galaxy Note II and the Nexus 4. The Snapdragon S4 Pro is better than the quad core Exynos. I love the blacks on AMOLED screens since I watch movies often the screen size would be nice.
http://www.tmonews.com/2012/10/t-mobile-confirms-nexus-4-hspa-42mbps-connectivity/
Sorry for this dumb question but does the 42mbps radio make much of a difference if I'm averaging around 8-10mbps? I'm currently using the HTC One S and I know it's usng the 42mbps radio. If I get the play store version would I average lower connection speeds?

Oky guys, I am getting this for sure, but I don't wanna stuck in 2G so where should I buy it from google store or t-mobile?]
And who gonna provide the update for t-mobile version ? google or t mobile

newbieandroid said:
The T-Mobile version will be sporting the 42mbps radio...
http://www.tmonews.com/2012/10/t-mobile-confirms-nexus-4-hspa-42mbps-connectivity/
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So will the Play Store version, according to the update in that same article.
Given this, there's absolutely no reason to get the contract version. You only save $150, while the cost of a contract can easily exceed $1000.

thebobp said:
So will the Play Store version, according to the update in that same article.
Given this, there's absolutely no reason to get the contract version. You only save $150, while the cost of a contract can easily exceed $1000.
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Your right, I was shocked when I first saw the play store version because I thought the benefit of using a Snapdragon in almost all of T-Mobiles devices dating back to the S3 in the Galaxy S3 was to get the 42mbps radio. I guess that's my next phone!

Sobit has been confirmed that the play store will use t-Mobiles 42 hdpa+? Also what is the 30 dollar a month plan on t-mobile? I'm on Verizon but I want the nexus 4
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Check this article http://www.tmonews.com/2012/10/t-mobile-confirms-nexus-4-hspa-42mbps-connectivity/
They are saying it's 42+ not 21+
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Canadian AWS carriers?
If these two are the same phones, will this work on mobilicity or wind?
Please be yes....

Are you talking about Wind in Canada? If so then yes, it will work. The nexus 4 is pentaband 3G meaning it supports all GSM bands.

42mbps or 21mbps... I was with T-Mobile for about 10 years and rarely saw 8-10mbps.
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Red Wolf said:
Oky guys, I am getting this for sure, but I don't wanna stuck in 2G so where should I buy it from google store or t-mobile?]
And who gonna provide the update for t-mobile version ? google or t mobile
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A few people seem certain that there is only one version of the Nexus 4 so no difference if you get it from TMO or the Play Store. A couple of links like the one from tmo news suggest the same info from a Google Press Release but none have linked to or published the press release so we can't be sure.
So there is still not certainly from my point of view and a chance that the Play Store version will not be a TMO 42mbps version. However if that's the case, you will still get 3G and even HSPA+, it will just not be as fast. To be clear, based on feedback from others, you might get 5mbps where someone with the 42mbps version is getting 8.

Internation Version N7100 unlocked

Does any one know if the N7100 unlocked version will work with AT&T 4G daga? I know LTE is impossible. I broke my Galaxy S3, trying to figure out should I buy the AT&T one or the unlocked version.

N7100 unlocked works fine on ATT network. I am using it now on Straight talk which is using ATT. Of course no LTE, but Im averaging between 5 and 6 mbps.

Thanks, do you think it is close to 4g or hspa?
Just want to make sure its not like 3G lol.
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N7100 unlocked works fine on ATT network. I am using it now on Straight talk which is using ATT. Of course no LTE, but Im averaging between 5 and 6 mbps.
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benzso63 said:
Thanks, do you think it is close to 4g or hspa?
Just want to make sure its not like 3G lol.
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Depends on your area. You will get what you getting on gs3. More than likely 2-5mbps.
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I will be coming over to the US next month (specifically LA), and I am carrying international Note 2 N700 unlocked.
Would AT&T Straight Talk be the best bet for me in terms of speeds and call rates? Where do I pick up the Straight talk SIM from?
Thanks!

Mybwifes s3 gets about 7-8 meg down speeds while I average between 2 to 4. For some its OK. We are on the other side of the US in MD. Speeds could be faster in CA.
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sids911 said:
I will be coming over to the US next month (specifically LA), and I am carrying international Note 2 N700 unlocked.
Would AT&T Straight Talk be the best bet for me in terms of speeds and call rates? Where do I pick up the Straight talk SIM from?
Thanks!
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I'd imagine any corporate store would have them, but I dunno how they'll handle it. They may try to upsell you all sorts of stuff or tell you you need a special plan if you tell them it's going in a Note 2. I'd just ask for a prepaid micro-SIM.

Thanks, but can I buy Straightalk SIM in an AT&T store? I thought it was a different company!

benzso63 said:
Thanks, do you think it is close to 4g or hspa?
Just want to make sure its not like 3G lol.
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Nope. Even if you're just going to use hsdpa the n7105 is better as it has dc-hsdpa capability so it'll be up to twice as fast in areas att have rolled out dc-hsdpa.
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I have not seen anything Straight talk related that was sold in an ATT store. I have been told that they sell the sim cards for straight talk at walmart. I have yet to see that as well. I ordered mine from straighttalk.com
As far as data speeds go, you will get hspa+ and nothing more. Varies from place to place but for me averages around 5mb