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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=877800
The dude has it working.
The dude abides.
Cheers
Edit:
He has pushed the latest initramfs : https://github.com/project-voodoo/nsonsgs-initramfs
Not flashable with Odin Yet.. He will do that tomorrow.
Galaxy S with Nexus S kernel - Booting Nexus S Android Gingerbread
Videos are here:
http://www.youtube.com/supercurioxda
There are like two more other threads about this. Wrong section as well.
It's cool that it's ported but it is far from being a daily driver.
Nice to keep us updated as this is the only forum I check for anything vibrant.
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i think this is the right spot for this but the thing is it's only a headsup for what might be to come. looking forward to what our mods are going to be like though so...
whhooopity doo
I'd love to go ahead and just install this. But it'll prolly cause a myriad of problems on my non i-9000 phone :'(
Is it really THAT hard to dev on samsung devices? Im super greatful for all the great roms that the devs have for us, but im seeing reports all over of stable gingerbread ports to multiple devices, heck even the CLIQ has a gingerbread port before the devices which the Ns is based on.
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nonmindo said:
Is it really THAT hard to dev on samsung devices? Im super greatful for all the great roms that the devs have for us, but im seeing reports all over of stable gingerbread ports to multiple devices, heck even the CLIQ has a gingerbread port before the devices which the Ns is based on.
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I was just thinking the same thing. The HD2 has it running already with only GPS broken, Built from nexus s source.
nonmindo said:
Is it really THAT hard to dev on samsung devices? Im super greatful for all the great roms that the devs have for us, but im seeing reports all over of stable gingerbread ports to multiple devices, heck even the CLIQ has a gingerbread port before the devices which the Ns is based on.
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what ? point me one working port. You can port Gingerbread to anything you what but nothing is gonna work except the OS
Just give it time. The nexus s is the best thing to happen to us galaxy s users. The nexus s has the same cpu as the galaxy s no? That is a Huge step in the right direction.
I believe in our developers. Its not easy I'm sure, but with patience and respect I'm confident in their ability to deliver us some awesome work.
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kolyan said:
what ? point me one working port. You can port Gingerbread to anything you what but nothing is gonna work except the OS
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you said just one
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/gingerbread-ported-to-htc-hd2/
it is simple,,, SGS 'Developers' are not that good....,, we do not even have a fully functional CM6,,, what will you expect...
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you said just one
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/gingerbread-ported-to-htc-hd2/
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this is a bit different i guess. its ported from Nexus One leak or something and hardware is the same. NS and Galaxy have many differences in hardware.
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it is simple,,, SGS 'Developers' are not that good....,, we do not even have a fully functional CM6,,, what will you expect...
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don't complain if you aren't going to help by developing either.. they all do this for free and not asking people to pay for their hard work.
Did anyone take the i9000 first release out for a test drive on the Vibrant?
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don't complain if you aren't going to help by developing either.. they all do this for free and not asking people to pay for their hard work.
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The problem is most of the "Developers" aren't Developers at all. They're themers and modders.
The reason why there aren't so many good developers for Galaxy S is because the hardware varies too much across the variants (pun unintended).
You can pretty much just think of them as different phones alltogether, because having the same SoC isn't really that much of a biggie. Different phones from different manufacturers can have the same SoC, but that doesn't mean the ROMs will gracefully port from one device to another.
The HD2 is an outliner, because it uses a popular SoC and the phone was released quite a bit before a slew of Android phones were released using similar SoCs (that, and HTC based later phones on similar hardware). It made the ROMs easy to port to that phone, and it made sure the system ran with acceptible performance (due to Google developing on similar hardware).
N8ter said:
The problem is most of the "Developers" aren't Developers at all. They're themers and modders.
The reason why there aren't so many good developers for Galaxy S is because the hardware varies too much across the variants (pun unintended).
You can pretty much just think of them as different phones alltogether, because having the same SoC isn't really that much of a biggie. Different phones from different manufacturers can have the same SoC, but that doesn't mean the ROMs will gracefully port from one device to another.
The HD2 is an outliner, because it uses a popular SoC and the phone was released quite a bit before a slew of Android phones were released using similar SoCs (that, and HTC based later phones on similar hardware). It made the ROMs easy to port to that phone, and it made sure the system ran with acceptible performance (due to Google developing on similar hardware).
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+1............
I'm officially putting in a request for an EVO tablet. Since there were no major upgrades to the ipad, OK perhaps a few, let's go in for the kill.
I'm not impressed with the price point and no wifi only for xoom, HTC should go in for the kill
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I'm officially putting in a request for an EVO tablet. Since there were no major upgrades to the ipad, OK perhaps a few, let's go in for the kill.
I'm not impressed with the price point and no wifi only for xoom, HTC should go in for the kill
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You got it. i'll pass that along to HTC. i'm SURE they'll listen and jump on it straightaway.
Seriously though, the ipad is difficult to beat. they did actually make a major upgrade in the new A5 processor with dual core. they also thinned it out a bit, the rest is mediocre like you said.
HTC already announced it, it's called the HTC Flyer and it doesn't look all that good. Single core running a tablet like sense on top of 2.3.
Here is the real concern... will honeycomb really be ready for primetime? All the videos I have seen of the xoom are choppy and crash quite a bit. I have yet to be blown away. However look at the stock evo. If it wasn't for cm7, I would be looking for something else. Why can't the manufacturers get it right. Perhaps they need some schooling form cyan?
Just saying.
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Here is the real concern... will honeycomb really be ready for primetime? All the videos I have seen of the xoom are choppy and crash quite a bit. I have yet to be blown away. However look at the stock evo. If it wasn't for cm7, I would be looking for something else. Why can't the manufacturers get it right. Perhaps they need some schooling form cyan?
Just saying.
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I give CM props but give them a bare device with no drivers and just AOSP and lets see them do better.
Award Tour said:
I give CM props but give them a bare device with no drivers and just AOSP and lets see them do better.
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Um .... Cm _is_ just AOSP...
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I give CM props but give them a bare device with no drivers and just AOSP and lets see them do better.
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You just defined what Cyanogenmod is in your own post and discredited it at the same time.
Obviously I know that CM uses AOSP. My point is that a lot of their work is dependent on the release of OEM source (drivers, etc). If they had to take AOSP and port Android to an entirely new device/hardware it'd be a different story. They add a lot of cool extra functionality but a lot of what they do is clean up existing code.
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Obviously I know that CM uses AOSP. My point is that a lot of their work is dependent on the release of OEM source (drivers, etc). If they had to take AOSP and port Android to an entirely new device/hardware it'd be a different story. They add a lot of cool extra functionality but a lot of what they do is clean up existing code.
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"a lot of their work" .... I don't think you understand what they do.
The _only_ thing they depend on the OEM source for is the kernel for the drivers because, obviously, they don't write the drivers. The rest of 2.3.3 that my EVO is running is compiled directly against the Google released source.
If they needed the OEM source how are they _ahead_ of every OEM out there right now in releases? No device they support has official GB yet. None.
Theres a reason you can only get GB on AOSP and no Sense based ROMs have it. They aren't waiting on HTC for anything beyond the drivers in the kernel ... which they got in November when they finally released the 004 camera drivers (unless a 005 surfaces).
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"a lot of their work" .... I don't think you understand what they do.
The _only_ thing they depend on the OEM source for is the kernel for the drivers because, obviously, they don't write the drivers. The rest of 2.3.3 that my EVO is running is compiled directly against the Google released source.
If they needed the OEM source how are they _ahead_ of every OEM out there right now in releases? No device they support has official GB yet. None.
Theres a reason you can only get GB on AOSP and no Sense based ROMs have it. They aren't waiting on HTC for anything beyond the drivers in the kernel ... which they got in November when they finally released the 004 camera drivers (unless a 005 surfaces).
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I was replying to the poster who said that OEMs should be consulted by CM. I'm just saying that OEMs have to get Android running on the hardware period, not to mention develop/design their overlays, which as much as I hate, are far more encompassing than the features/tweaks CM adds. Bottom line: they got much more to worry about than mostly just cleaning up. Not trying to discredit CM, just suggesting not to downplay the bigger role OEMs have in the process.
Thank you for the laugh of the day. VERRY WELL SAID?
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I've got the answer. The hardware is so similar between the vendors now, so google should set the standard (not the crappy half assed job they did before) and do an X-Prize type contest. Make one kick butt tablet and have the best minds compete. No skins, no bloatware, just a solid device. Sure they burn a lot of bridges with their vendors, but everyone would want it, and Google comes out ahead in the long run. Truly compete against apple with an open platform. The gPhone!
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Ipad 2 is already beat Check out the eee slate from asus. Amazing product.
Imprezed said:
Ipad 2 is already beat Check out the eee slate from asus. Amazing product.
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Wow you were not joking. Love Windows 7.
Now that's a tablet.
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novanosis85 said:
Wow you were not joking. Love Windows 7.
Now that's a tablet.
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It fills a niche. I personally have a hard time buying any of the "phone" tablets because if I'm on a computer 99% of the time I either have a IDE/Photoshop/Illustrator open. None of the current tablets will able to do what I need. But Windows 7 is not really fit for tablet - I used to have a Tablet PC running Windows 7 and you might as well just get a decent dual core Atom netbook (which I do have) because it's not worth it.
What I'm waiting for is Windows 8. It'll probably be very touch friendly in desktop mode and is suppose to have a secondary WP7/Metro-like shell which I assume will also be able to run mobile/tablet-like mini apps. Either use it like a iPad/Xoom/whatever or dock it to a keyboard and get real **** done. Best of both worlds and it'll probably work great with next gen Atoms or energy sipping multiple core ARM CPUs.
Can I just say that the guy bagging on CM7 is a douche? Can this be a "douche-bump" post?
That just happened!
What I don't understand is if you don't like the cm mod, why are you even on this forum. It might not be perfect, but even the nightlies are better than many finished products. There are also a good bunch of guys always willing to help out. I'm a big fan!
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What I don't understand is if you don't like the cm mod, why are you even on this forum. It might not be perfect, but even the nightlies are better than many finished products. There are also a good bunch of guys always willing to help out. I'm a big fan!
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CM is not for everyone. Saying cm is the only reason to be on these forums is retarded. Might ad well rename this site cm7-4-life.com.
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What I don't understand is if you don't like the cm mod, why are you even on this forum. It might not be perfect, but even the nightlies are better than many finished products. There are also a good bunch of guys always willing to help out. I'm a big fan!
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That's great that you're a big fan of CM, but not everyone likes or uses their ROMs. AOSP is not for everyone, that's why I'm glad we have choices.
MIUI 1.2.25 with stock kernel
HW003
babyschoof said:
What I don't understand is if you don't like the cm mod, why are you even on this forum. It might not be perfect, but even the nightlies are better than many finished products. There are also a good bunch of guys always willing to help out. I'm a big fan!
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are you talking to me? Because CM is just about the only ROM I use and the reason why I even got the EVO in the first place. I think you're completely missing my point.
Someone said that OEMs (like HTC, Samsung) should get consulted by the CM team. I said its not a fair comparison because:
A. Most of the time CM depends on OEM provided drivers to get CM running. That in itself can be a hard thing to implement from scratch on a new device. Android isn't like Windows where you can buy a license and Microsoft provides full support.
B. OEM skins like Sense and Touchwiz are much bigger projects than the tweaks/functions that CM adds.
I just thought that poster was undervaluing how much the OEM has to do, and that getting consulted by the CM team is probably not as valuable to them as he thinks.
If any team should do contracting/consulting, it should be the MIUI team. Their work is incredibly impressive and covers a far larger scope than CM. At least they do a consumer/user friendly job at modifying/skinning Android - the best on Android in fact, OEM skins/overlays included.
Anyway, you took this way too personally and over blown it (why?) way beyond what it is. I appreciate and use CM but am not disillusioned or completely uninformed by the reality of consumer development.
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Is anyone up for the idea to start a collection to buy the CM team a N7100 so they can start working on getting us cm10?
When I spoke to xplodwild this was his reply
Guillaume (@xplodwild) tweeted at 7:21 PM on Fri, Oct 05, 2012:
@iseeguy Assuming someone do it, because as of now nobody have one neither wants to buy one.
(https://twitter.com/xplodwild/status/254149189792047104)
I'm happy to organise this with the CM team to kickoff development
Who's thinks it's a good idea?
I've donated to previous initiatives and will again
Just an FYI:
I not only have no interest in purchasing a device, but if you gave me a free one and offered $2000, I would say no.
I have better things to do than waste countless hours of my time fighting another non-Nexus Exynos.
xplodwild may be more receptive to continuing with Exynos, but at least in the case of myself and codeworkx, we are done. Our current devices are going to be our last Exynos devices unless Samsung makes major changes.
This is why I'll keep my note 1
Already on Jb PA
Maybe when development for the note 2 is already a big boy is change for it. Probably not.
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Really don't see any redeeming quality to putting cm10 on this device. The software makes this device what it is. Taking all that away makes it nothing more than a mini nexus 7. Nothing against cm10. It's great on most devices... But you are really devaluing the note by neuturing it of 75 percent of its features. This is kinda like running linux on a ps3. Yeah its neat to say you did it, but good luck playing a ps3 game.
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Gordon Ramsay said:
Really don't see any redeeming quality to putting cm10 on this device. The software makes this device what it is. Taking all that away makes it nothing more than a mini nexus 7. Nothing against cm10. It's great on most devices... But you are really devaluing the note by neuturing it of 75 percent of its features. This is kinda like running linux on a ps3. Yeah its neat to say you did it, but good luck playing a ps3 game.
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Well said!
Far enough, but it was worth a try
Can the mods please delete this thread.
Gordon Ramsay said:
Really don't see any redeeming quality to putting cm10 on this device. The software makes this device what it is. Taking all that away makes it nothing more than a mini nexus 7. Nothing against cm10. It's great on most devices... But you are really devaluing the note by neuturing it of 75 percent of its features. This is kinda like running linux on a ps3. Yeah its neat to say you did it, but good luck playing a ps3 game.
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Entropy512 said:
Just an FYI:
I not only have no interest in purchasing a device, but if you gave me a free one and offered $2000, I would say no.
I have better things to do than waste countless hours of my time fighting another non-Nexus Exynos.
xplodwild may be more receptive to continuing with Exynos, but at least in the case of myself and codeworkx, we are done. Our current devices are going to be our last Exynos devices unless Samsung makes major changes.
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Sounds like you lost your passion, and the reason you started doing this. Since when did people do it for it being easy? That is beyond dissapointing. I think you forgot how this all started sir.
I completely support this especially if its just for a dev to do it unofficially, but remember guys we can't hold the dev responsible for getting it done. You have to go into thinking your donating for the dev to have the phone and use it as they like not donate thinking your donating for that dev to be obligated to bring cm10. In the rezound forum we got a phone for protekk to help with aosp and people got demanding and were expecting him to bring it since they donated. This tore apart that community for a long time. So if you donate do it as a donation and not an expectation
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Gordon Ramsay said:
Really don't see any redeeming quality to putting cm10 on this device. The software makes this device what it is. Taking all that away makes it nothing more than a mini nexus 7. Nothing against cm10. It's great on most devices... But you are really devaluing the note by neuturing it of 75 percent of its features. This is kinda like running linux on a ps3. Yeah its neat to say you did it, but good luck playing a ps3 game.
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I would say that Paranoid Android is absolutely perfect for the Note. S-Pen can be handled through different applications like GNote, Memo etc. The ability to run applications in tablet mode is such an enhancement of the device that I don´t see any single feature with the Note II that somehow "compensates".
I can agree that pure CM10 isn´t the most interesting thing on the Note II since it has the phone UI but Paranoid Android is a completely different matter.
Since PA relies on CM, it is very important to get it for the N7100 in order to get going.
Windowed applications is very nice but also a feature I guess will be implemented in either AOSP or CM in the future. Don´t forget Overskreen and FloatNote etc.
I thought at first porting CM10 would be easy in it's current state due to shared hardware with S3. I would understand if they dropped future exynos but this is an existing thing already with minor differences.
I would donate too if we can see a new maintainer taking on the device. Would be a shame not having CM on the device. It brings so much stuff for what it is and also other devs bringing their extra tweaks on top of it. A wonderful ecosystem I wanna to see and follow on xda and my device =(
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Gordon Ramsay said:
Really don't see any redeeming quality to putting cm10 on this device. The software makes this device what it is. Taking all that away makes it nothing more than a mini nexus 7. Nothing against cm10. It's great on most devices... But you are really devaluing the note by neuturing it of 75 percent of its features. This is kinda like running linux on a ps3. Yeah its neat to say you did it, but good luck playing a ps3 game.
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Let's be honest here for just one moment, the Samsung S apps and the stylus are gimmicks that will be used once when the note is purchased then abandoned. I've owned the original note and now the note 2 and I never once pickup up the stylus for anything
What's more valuable is a fast, smooth and reliable OS
Just my opinion of course.
ipguy said:
Let's be honest here for just one moment, the Samsung S apps and the stylus are gimmicks that will be used once when the note is purchased then abandoned. I've owned the original note and now the note 2 and I never once pickup up the stylus for anything
What's more valuable is a fast, smooth and reliable OS
Just my opinion of course.
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To you, but to many others (the majority of people) what Samsung is doing with features is why they are making the purchase. Honestly its mainly because of the new features as to why I'm going to upgade. I'll still have my OG note running PA CM10, which I love.
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erick161 said:
To you, but to many others (the majority of people) what Samsung is doing with features is why they are making the purchase. Honestly its mainly because of the new features as to why I'm going to upgade. I'll still have my OG note running PA CM10, which I love.
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Let agree to disagree then!
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Sounds like you lost your passion, and the reason you started doing this. Since when did people do it for it being easy? That is beyond dissapointing. I think you forgot how this all started sir.
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There's a difference between challenging, and utterly freaking impossible.
Challenging: Going through source and fixing bugs or adding new features. For example, for months I've wanted to try and rework the Exynos suspend/resume code to be more power efficient. (It locks cpufreq at 800 MHz and disables cpuidle for the entire suspend/resume cycle, which eats power. Also SOME interrupt service handler eats huge amounts of CPU on resume (the root cause of the classic Gingerbread "Android OS" bugs), and I'd like to figure out which one and see if it can be optimized.
Utterly freaking impossible: On a routine basis, figuring out what Samsung broke in their blobs and why it doesn't work the way it should. Trying to take totally broken nonfunctional source code and get it to work properly with zero documentation. See hwcomposer - unless a miracle happens, we will be continually stuck fighting blobs that Samsung gave us. Their blobs have some sort of significant magic not present in any reference source. The reference source creates a broken piece of **** that's almost indistinguishable from not having any hwc at all.
I've spent 10-20 hours or more per week of my spare time over the past three weeks fighting hwcomposer and making absolutely zero progress. I'm tired of flailing against a brick wall and getting nothing other than bloody knuckles.
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I thought at first porting CM10 would be easy in it's current state due to shared hardware with S3. I would understand if they dropped future exynos but this is an existing thing already with minor differences.
I would donate too if we can see a new maintainer taking on the device. Would be a shame not having CM on the device. It brings so much stuff for what it is and also other devs bringing their extra tweaks on top of it. A wonderful ecosystem I wanna to see and follow on xda and my device =(
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No, porting CM10 won't be easy due to shared hardware with the S3. Have you noticed no Exynos device has M builds? Have you noticed that Exynos devices are almost always one of the last "flagship-class" devices to receive nightlies?
CM9 should never have been marked stable on Exynos devices - too many bugs remain and we lowered our standards for "stable" too much.
CM10 on Exynos is incredibly far from reaching M builds let alone a stable release and I don't think we have the manpower, motivation, or energy to take it to to the finish line, let alone the documentation needed to do so.
And what about CM11? The whole mess will just start all over again, if any maintainers are left on Exynos by then. Again, we'll be flailing against undocumented crap that didn't even quite work right with the Android version it was designed for, while those working on platforms that have proper documentation and reference source (OMAP and Qualcomm) will start moving ahead immediately. See JB on Qcoms - They took only a month or two to get ahead of where Exynos4 devices are NOW, 4-5 months after JB went live, and over half of the work those guys were doing was forward-merging CM customizations from CM9.
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I've owned the original note and now the note 2 and I never once pickup up the stylus for anything
What's more valuable is a fast, smooth and reliable OS
Just my opinion of course.
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Then I wonder why did you buy Note at first place! IMO it's that S-Pen which makes this Note series special than other flagships like S series, and in Note II it has just gotten better.
And about your 2nd paragraph, say whatever, but kindly exclude the word 'reliable' from that list.
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Then I wonder why did you buy Note at first place! IMO it's that S-Pen which makes this Note series special than other flagships like S series, and in Note II it has just gotten better.
And about your 2nd paragraph, say whatever, but kindly exclude the word 'reliable' from that list.
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I purchased the note for the screen size mainly.
Isn't a reliable OS important?
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I purchased the note for the screen size mainly.
Isn't a reliable OS important?
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To me a reliable OS is all that matters. But you didn't get the point what I've tried to say.
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I purchased the note for the screen size mainly.
Isn't a reliable OS important?
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That's the primary reason I got my Note. Even if it didn't have a stylus I would've bought it for the screen.
Also, there are now plenty of pen apps that use the standard Android stylus APIs, so the Samsung-specific stuff is irrelevant at this point. For example, PS Touch works just fine on the Note 10.1 in AOSP. So does Quill, Papyrus, Memo Beta, LectureNotes, and a number of other apps.
The only thing beyond that which is missing are stylus gestures, and that's primarily an issue of manpower. I would've forward ported and cleaned up masiullah's pen gestures patches a month or two ago if there weren't a pile of other massively broken things unrelated to stylus.
Seems interest has been completely lost...
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What? Not following you... Interest is alive and well...
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I'd say most of the enthusiasts are waiting for the upcoming "Daily Driver in a few weeks".
But there are plenty of developers, developing stuff!
Subscribe to the mailing list and you'll see just how active development really is, no where near dead.
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I'd say most of the enthusiasts are waiting for the upcoming "Daily Driver in a few weeks".
But there are plenty of developers, developing stuff!
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This. There isn't much use for this build with the consumer crowd. This build is more for those building apps for Ubuntu Touch
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Subscribe to the mailing list and you'll see just how active development really is, no where near dead.
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I subscribed to the mailing list and I have not had any news at all.
I kind of agree. I got my gnex just for Ubuntu touch, but in waiting for it I've found myself falling in love with android all over again. Its so nice on nexus devices. That's why I'm ordering my nexus 4 Friday. Can't honestly see me flashing Ubuntu touch on it, maybe on my gnex. Sad but true. Though I expect others will feel different.
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I'd say most of the enthusiasts are waiting for the upcoming "Daily Driver in a few weeks".
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That was an irresponsible mistake by Mark Shuttleworth to say. Ubuntu is piggybacking on CM, how can he guarantee compatibility with all those phones?
Logseman said:
That was an irresponsible mistake by Mark Shuttleworth to say. Ubuntu is piggybacking on CM, how can he guarantee compatibility with all those phones?
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Especially when we android devs already know how hard it is getting support and sources out of some of these chip manufacturers!
But that said - we're an enterprising bunch and I think we'll see support for many devices already out there. You only have to look at the amount of ports that already have GUI up and working.
To answer the OP - as others have said - it feels dead as no one is really using it yet because it is so incomplete. There's no point us here on XDA jumping up and fixing it because Canonical are already hard at work at their end. As soon as we start seeing alpha (May), beta and RCs you'll see this OS jump to life on a lot of devices here on XDA.
It'll be interesting to see how these ports fair when they make the jump to MIR and stop using CM code though.
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That was an irresponsible mistake by Mark Shuttleworth to say. Ubuntu is piggybacking on CM, how can he guarantee compatibility with all those phones?
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This is true, I really wanted this to happen. It seemed like something fresh and new. But I kind of feel the preview was just to appease people, it feels like it will go like Ubuntu for android. Big promises, but no end result. A daily driver was meant to be out any day now but I wouldn't hold your breath. I think they have bitten off more than they can chew. Look how long its taken Mozilla to get an os up and running. I'd like to be wrong, but we will see. Great idea, great design but questionable execution.
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Be al little patient people....its still in development. The the first phones with ubuntu will come next year...but the progression behind the screen is enormous. And its not only about the phone but is about one OS on all your devices. Tv, pc, tablet and phones.
Its going to be awesome...
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liawim said:
Be al little patient people....its still in development. The the first phones with ubuntu will come next year...but the progression behind the screen is enormous. And its not only about the phone but is about one OS on all your devices. Tv, pc, tablet and phones.
Its going to be awesome...
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I don't think patients is what we're on about. The only person setting time limits is Mark Shuttleworth, its more about if it ever happens. Don't think anyone minds if it take a week, month or a year. Its the promises and then not happening that frustrates me and I'm sure others. I was excited about Ubuntu for android over a year ago, was even going to buy an atrix. Now I've gone and got a gnex and for Ubuntu touch. Then a week before its supposed realise, all of a sudden its a dev preview! The first videos and info left that info out and its running on cyanogen mod. That's not quite what we were told ether. All that aside the point being, I'm not against it intact I'd love it to happen. But in using this stock device I've found myself not really wanting to move and also expecting it not to happen. I can't help but feel the reality was more about getting people to use Ubuntu PC rather than touch. Its almost like any publicity is good publicity. Its not about time, its about truth and the truth is people are getting no feed back, where are they at, what they need, there's a whole community of developers at there disposal and there not using them. I had gone off android, Ubuntu touch has only made me love it again. I'm not trying to start an argument, its my view. Ubuntu to me just feels disorganised. Google doesn't!
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I think that Canonical made a mistake in announcing the DEVELOPER PREVIEW how they did, because it seems that many people do not know the difference between CONSUMER and DEVELOPER PREVIEW , and then come here in despair waiting for the OS.
Canonical release the dev preview to appease the us then it died down were still gonna have a long wait b4 am official release after that happens if we die down again then we're dead
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jbseal said:
I think that Canonical made a mistake in announcing the DEVELOPER PREVIEW how they did, because it seems that many people do not know the difference between CONSUMER and DEVELOPER PREVIEW , and then come here in despair waiting for the OS.
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Yes and no. When it was enounced there was no developer tag. It was a week in before that was added, I can't help but feel that the "developer preview" was originally going to be complete but they realised they couldn't manage it, so they realised what they had as a "developer preview" it kind of feels like they messed up and tryed to cover it up. I might be way off base here, it makes little difference to me as I've already said I'll be staying on android for now. Least on my nex4, witch will be my every day phone. I might try it on my gnex if it ever emerges but I won't hold my breath. . . to be clear I'm not annoyed at it taking time, I'm just saying to everyone don't expect it soon if ever. We will see.
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jzero88 said:
Seems interest has been completely lost...
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Not even close - there are already daily drivers and you can already test all the core apps on Ubuntu desktop.
Soon these will head over the the phone. Besides that you can already load your own apps onto the OS.
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Ubuntu touch is dead?, seriously?, how could you say such a thing when it's still in development... Mark Shuttleworth said it'll be ready for daily use soon so just hold tight and wait a bit.. Honestly I don't like posts like these because it makes the community lose hope in the OS when it's not even ready yet.. -.-
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Ubuntu touch is dead?, seriously?, how could you say such a thing when it's still in development... Mark Shuttleworth said it'll be ready for daily use soon so just hold tight and wait a bit.. Honestly I don't like posts like these because it makes the community lose hope in the OS when it's not even ready yet.. -.-
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Ubuntu touch is dead?, seriously?, how could you say such a thing when it's still in development... Mark Shuttleworth said it'll be ready for daily use soon so just hold tight and wait a bit.. Honestly I don't like posts like these because it makes the community lose hope in the OS when it's not even ready yet.. -.-
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he say it will be ready for daily use for couple weeks.i Can't ****ing wait!
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Logseman said:
That was an irresponsible mistake by Mark Shuttleworth to say. Ubuntu is piggybacking on CM, how can he guarantee compatibility with all those phones?
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Isn't that what open source is recycling (or piggybacking) from other peoples work. Why rewrite what's already there I would have found it idiotic if they didn't use cm.
Next your going to say they freeload off debian.
Whether or not Ubuntu Edge will get the green light or not (read Joey's great 5 Reasons Why You Should Stop What You’re Doing & Pledge to #UbuntuEdge), everybody's hard at work making Ubuntu Touch, the beautiful mobile OS, happen.
Two weeks ago we had our first Ubuntu Touch Porting Clinic and it went quite well. We found and fixed a number of issues in our tools, our porting guide and many porters turned up to ask their questions and update the images.
There's also still Michael Hall's offer to win an OPPO Find 5. If you are interested in winning it, or work on an existing port, create a new one and generally get Ubuntu Touch on devices out there, show up, talk to the Ubuntu Touch engineers, find out what's happening and how to get involved.
It's all happening
Thursday, 2013-09-22
in #ubuntu-touch on irc.freenode.net
Or reach us on the ubuntu-phone mailing list.
When is the radio going to be activated on non nexus devices? Especially samsung.
No they dont "just work" and im sure by now you guys know.
Whats d point of the beautiful mobile os if i cant call or browse.?
Less than 2 months to go this should be priority........ not everyone can get a nexus.
If at launch the media is yapping about how they cant even make calls on their test device this project becomes a lame duck......
Its weird how nobody seems to be bothered about this. Except of course its a deliberate thing to prevent mass use before v 1.0
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Bad luck!
Don't be too harsh. We should be gratefull for what Canonical is already giving (for free!) even if it's only on a few devices for now. The main focus is and should remain the OS itself, there's no space to support a countless number of hardware. That should be left to the community.
There is also no reason to support every android hardware because they are going to have their 'own' devices.
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Bad luck!
Don't be too harsh. We should be gratefull for what Canonical is already giving (for free!) even if it's only on a few devices for now. The main focus is and should remain the OS itself, there's no space to support a countless number of hardware. That should be left to the community.
There is also no reason to support every android hardware because they are going to have their 'own' devices.
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I have no issue with it being exclusive to nexus devices as they are affordable and highly accessible without contract. However I have to agree on some points considering I have a nexus device in my hand with no native support. Verizon Galaxy Nexus. If you are going to commit to targeting Nexus audiences then at least follow through with that. Meanwhile I will be attempting to make a port myself so I understand how difficult radio's can be but I digress.
Not aware of the American network ecosystem so I can't argue with that. Indeed it does sound unfortunate.
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lllsondowlll said:
I have no issue with it being exclusive to nexus devices as they are affordable and highly accessible without contract. However I have to agree on some points considering I have a nexus device in my hand with no native support. Verizon Galaxy Nexus. If you are going to commit to targeting Nexus audiences then at least follow through with that. Meanwhile I will be attempting to make a port myself so I understand how difficult radio's can be but I digress.
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That old junk? Get a N4
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Some of us stay in places where buying a nexus is very difficult and even makes no sense.
in my country a nexus 4 retails for about 500 dollars!!
Secondly, there are no Ubuntu Devices until next year. Are u telling me v1.0 is designed to be used by only the nexus users? smh.
anyway if you know any port that has functional radios pls share....... as far as i know, none.
apparently we are developing a mobile OS we cannot use on a mobile phone... at least till we are able to buy a ubuntu phone..... which no one has committed to making yet.
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apparently we are developing a mobile OS we cannot use on a mobile phone... at least till we are able to buy a ubuntu phone..... which no one has committed to making yet."
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Now;
1.Xda is a FREE (as in freedom) community for You & me & even big guys like Canonical.
2. Developers owe you nothing
3. Whining / eta / nag to devs are not liked anywhere.
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4llerbuntu said:
in my country a nexus 4 retails for about 500 dollars!!
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You can buy a GNex like me
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As a former ubuntu user I am looking forward to hearing news for samsung devices not the nexus ones. It's tiring and really time taking thng to port but may be Cannonical release it with a ported image.
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I have no issue with it being exclusive to nexus devices as they are affordable and highly accessible without contract. However I have to agree on some points considering I have a nexus device in my hand with no native support. Verizon Galaxy Nexus. If you are going to commit to targeting Nexus audiences then at least follow through with that. Meanwhile I will be attempting to make a port myself so I understand how difficult radio's can be but I digress.
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They are targeting true Nexus phones directly from Google and not the carrier branded versions. The reason why you won't see a official image or a completely functional community built image for the Verizon/Sprint Galaxy Nexus is because the radio which is CDMA/LTE is proprietary to the carrier and so its harder to patch a RIL to work with those phones opposed to the standard RIL for GSM based phones.
If you want a functional Ubuntu Touch phone on Verizon, you will have to wait until a OEM makes one for Verizon. If not, you will probably have to switch to AT&T or T-Mobile to get a community/official built image for a phone.
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