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EVO tablet

I'm officially putting in a request for an EVO tablet. Since there were no major upgrades to the ipad, OK perhaps a few, let's go in for the kill.
I'm not impressed with the price point and no wifi only for xoom, HTC should go in for the kill
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babyschoof said:
I'm officially putting in a request for an EVO tablet. Since there were no major upgrades to the ipad, OK perhaps a few, let's go in for the kill.
I'm not impressed with the price point and no wifi only for xoom, HTC should go in for the kill
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You got it. i'll pass that along to HTC. i'm SURE they'll listen and jump on it straightaway.
Seriously though, the ipad is difficult to beat. they did actually make a major upgrade in the new A5 processor with dual core. they also thinned it out a bit, the rest is mediocre like you said.

HTC already announced it, it's called the HTC Flyer and it doesn't look all that good. Single core running a tablet like sense on top of 2.3.

Here is the real concern... will honeycomb really be ready for primetime? All the videos I have seen of the xoom are choppy and crash quite a bit. I have yet to be blown away. However look at the stock evo. If it wasn't for cm7, I would be looking for something else. Why can't the manufacturers get it right. Perhaps they need some schooling form cyan?
Just saying.
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babyschoof said:
Here is the real concern... will honeycomb really be ready for primetime? All the videos I have seen of the xoom are choppy and crash quite a bit. I have yet to be blown away. However look at the stock evo. If it wasn't for cm7, I would be looking for something else. Why can't the manufacturers get it right. Perhaps they need some schooling form cyan?
Just saying.
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I give CM props but give them a bare device with no drivers and just AOSP and lets see them do better.

Award Tour said:
I give CM props but give them a bare device with no drivers and just AOSP and lets see them do better.
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Um .... Cm _is_ just AOSP...

Award Tour said:
I give CM props but give them a bare device with no drivers and just AOSP and lets see them do better.
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You just defined what Cyanogenmod is in your own post and discredited it at the same time.

Obviously I know that CM uses AOSP. My point is that a lot of their work is dependent on the release of OEM source (drivers, etc). If they had to take AOSP and port Android to an entirely new device/hardware it'd be a different story. They add a lot of cool extra functionality but a lot of what they do is clean up existing code.

Award Tour said:
Obviously I know that CM uses AOSP. My point is that a lot of their work is dependent on the release of OEM source (drivers, etc). If they had to take AOSP and port Android to an entirely new device/hardware it'd be a different story. They add a lot of cool extra functionality but a lot of what they do is clean up existing code.
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"a lot of their work" .... I don't think you understand what they do.
The _only_ thing they depend on the OEM source for is the kernel for the drivers because, obviously, they don't write the drivers. The rest of 2.3.3 that my EVO is running is compiled directly against the Google released source.
If they needed the OEM source how are they _ahead_ of every OEM out there right now in releases? No device they support has official GB yet. None.
Theres a reason you can only get GB on AOSP and no Sense based ROMs have it. They aren't waiting on HTC for anything beyond the drivers in the kernel ... which they got in November when they finally released the 004 camera drivers (unless a 005 surfaces).

Justin.G11 said:
"a lot of their work" .... I don't think you understand what they do.
The _only_ thing they depend on the OEM source for is the kernel for the drivers because, obviously, they don't write the drivers. The rest of 2.3.3 that my EVO is running is compiled directly against the Google released source.
If they needed the OEM source how are they _ahead_ of every OEM out there right now in releases? No device they support has official GB yet. None.
Theres a reason you can only get GB on AOSP and no Sense based ROMs have it. They aren't waiting on HTC for anything beyond the drivers in the kernel ... which they got in November when they finally released the 004 camera drivers (unless a 005 surfaces).
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I was replying to the poster who said that OEMs should be consulted by CM. I'm just saying that OEMs have to get Android running on the hardware period, not to mention develop/design their overlays, which as much as I hate, are far more encompassing than the features/tweaks CM adds. Bottom line: they got much more to worry about than mostly just cleaning up. Not trying to discredit CM, just suggesting not to downplay the bigger role OEMs have in the process.

Thank you for the laugh of the day. VERRY WELL SAID?
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I've got the answer. The hardware is so similar between the vendors now, so google should set the standard (not the crappy half assed job they did before) and do an X-Prize type contest. Make one kick butt tablet and have the best minds compete. No skins, no bloatware, just a solid device. Sure they burn a lot of bridges with their vendors, but everyone would want it, and Google comes out ahead in the long run. Truly compete against apple with an open platform. The gPhone!
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Ipad 2 is already beat Check out the eee slate from asus. Amazing product.

Imprezed said:
Ipad 2 is already beat Check out the eee slate from asus. Amazing product.
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Wow you were not joking. Love Windows 7.
Now that's a tablet.
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novanosis85 said:
Wow you were not joking. Love Windows 7.
Now that's a tablet.
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It fills a niche. I personally have a hard time buying any of the "phone" tablets because if I'm on a computer 99% of the time I either have a IDE/Photoshop/Illustrator open. None of the current tablets will able to do what I need. But Windows 7 is not really fit for tablet - I used to have a Tablet PC running Windows 7 and you might as well just get a decent dual core Atom netbook (which I do have) because it's not worth it.
What I'm waiting for is Windows 8. It'll probably be very touch friendly in desktop mode and is suppose to have a secondary WP7/Metro-like shell which I assume will also be able to run mobile/tablet-like mini apps. Either use it like a iPad/Xoom/whatever or dock it to a keyboard and get real **** done. Best of both worlds and it'll probably work great with next gen Atoms or energy sipping multiple core ARM CPUs.

Can I just say that the guy bagging on CM7 is a douche? Can this be a "douche-bump" post?
That just happened!

What I don't understand is if you don't like the cm mod, why are you even on this forum. It might not be perfect, but even the nightlies are better than many finished products. There are also a good bunch of guys always willing to help out. I'm a big fan!
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babyschoof said:
What I don't understand is if you don't like the cm mod, why are you even on this forum. It might not be perfect, but even the nightlies are better than many finished products. There are also a good bunch of guys always willing to help out. I'm a big fan!
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CM is not for everyone. Saying cm is the only reason to be on these forums is retarded. Might ad well rename this site cm7-4-life.com.
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babyschoof said:
What I don't understand is if you don't like the cm mod, why are you even on this forum. It might not be perfect, but even the nightlies are better than many finished products. There are also a good bunch of guys always willing to help out. I'm a big fan!
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That's great that you're a big fan of CM, but not everyone likes or uses their ROMs. AOSP is not for everyone, that's why I'm glad we have choices.
MIUI 1.2.25 with stock kernel
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babyschoof said:
What I don't understand is if you don't like the cm mod, why are you even on this forum. It might not be perfect, but even the nightlies are better than many finished products. There are also a good bunch of guys always willing to help out. I'm a big fan!
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are you talking to me? Because CM is just about the only ROM I use and the reason why I even got the EVO in the first place. I think you're completely missing my point.
Someone said that OEMs (like HTC, Samsung) should get consulted by the CM team. I said its not a fair comparison because:
A. Most of the time CM depends on OEM provided drivers to get CM running. That in itself can be a hard thing to implement from scratch on a new device. Android isn't like Windows where you can buy a license and Microsoft provides full support.
B. OEM skins like Sense and Touchwiz are much bigger projects than the tweaks/functions that CM adds.
I just thought that poster was undervaluing how much the OEM has to do, and that getting consulted by the CM team is probably not as valuable to them as he thinks.
If any team should do contracting/consulting, it should be the MIUI team. Their work is incredibly impressive and covers a far larger scope than CM. At least they do a consumer/user friendly job at modifying/skinning Android - the best on Android in fact, OEM skins/overlays included.
Anyway, you took this way too personally and over blown it (why?) way beyond what it is. I appreciate and use CM but am not disillusioned or completely uninformed by the reality of consumer development.
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Want to start a #PleaseShareYourSourceCode for the #Vibrant #Samsung

So have been thinking. As we did a pretty good #NeverAgain campaign way back to get Froyo to our Vibrants we could try a new approach.
We may be waiting for Samsung and T-mobile to come out with Gingerbread for the our Vibrants. I don't know what the chances for this is. But if they are planning on retiring the Vibrant (or already have) than there shouldn't be anything that keeps Samsung from releasing the sourcecode for the Vibrant. The good press that Samsung would get by releasing the source code (and I'm talking about the kernel) for the Vibrant, can be tremendous. If they are not planning on using it, than great if they release the source. If they do plan on releasing it, but also hand it over to the developers like the CM team, how much more grateful will we be as their power user group.
Keeping on the developers good side should be important for Samsung and the other manufacturers, as that also leads to a very happy power user group. Which in turn refers their products to their friends and families.
So just checking to see what the interest would be for us people that are left with the Vibrant would be involved in making a campaign like this to succeed?

#bashingsamsungandtmobileoverandoverisntgoingtogetusanythingandsinceyounameditspecificallyforthevibranttherewontevenbethatmuchsupportevenontheneveragainthepeoplefromfascinatecaptivateetccameoverandhelpedout

xriderx66 said:
#bashingsamsungandtmobileoverandoverisntgoingtogetusanythingandsinceyounameditspecificallyforthevibranttherewontevenbethatmuchsupportevenontheneveragainthepeoplefromfascinatecaptivateetccameoverandhelpedout
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You made some spelling mistakes
But yes its pointless to do that, once something is used with success it won't touch the crowd the same/losses its meaning
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iwillkillyou said:
You made some spelling mistakes
But yes its pointless to do that, once something is used with success it won't touch the crowd the same/losses its meaning
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I agree. The first campaign worked because it was something new and half way legitimate. If they are working on GB for us, a year after release, I don't think we have much ground to complain. Not that you can't, feel free, but now people are starting to hit the down hill slope of looking forward to their next upgrade.
Just my opinion.
Edit: I am 'tarded

The Vibrant is powerful enough to maintain a long lifespan. There really are only about 2 phones I'd consider a strong enough upgrade to even consider jumping ship.
Ice Cream Sandwich isn't far away. Since it's meant to work on all devices (phones, tablets, pc's, etc)... I really hope drivers aren't the reason I can't use this phone for long time to come..
Well, that and AT&T. BOO.

As much as we love this phone it won't live forever. We can't beg for every update
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joshyy_rey said:
As much as we love this phone it won't live forever. We can't beg for every update
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I know we can't ask for the update. Don't really care. But we know they are sitting on the code and if they are not planning on giving us GB at least they could give us the code. Especially the kernel so that CM can get a perfectly working CM7 for the Vibrant.

swehes said:
I know we can't ask for the update. Don't really care. But we know they are sitting on the code and if they are not planning on giving us GB at least they could give us the code. Especially the kernel so that CM can get a perfectly working CM7 for the Vibrant.
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The problem is that if it's not finished (which is very likely) and we use the code a lot of misinformed people will complain about how we were given buggy code. Then the conspiracy theorists will assume that Samsung sabotaged the code just to get people to hate their phones and want to buy a new one.
All of this will go back to Samsung and they will be labeled as bad for not knowing how to program, or hurting development, or being evil, or ...
Perfect world they could just make all their code transparent for us all to see as soon as it happens, but they would rather be like every other company and hold out on giving out source until they feel it is ready than risk being hurt by trying to help out.
If the code was finished they would be pushing for an update. I doubt they have anything complete for the vibrant.

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LET'S CHANGE THE WORLD!!!!!111!one!!!1!eleventy

TheSneakerWhore said:
I just started #lovemesomelesbianasianfootfetish.
LET'S CHANGE THE WORLD!!!!!111!one!!!1!eleventy
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Lol, this made me laugh. Thank you. I hit the button but I hit my cap
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Petition to HTC: Release Ice Cream Sandwich update for HTC Desire Z

Please sign.
change.org/petitions/htc-release-ice-cream-sandwich-update-for-htc-desire-z

Not interested in HTC factory bloat.
Already running Android 4 on Vision.

dhkr234 said:
Not interested in HTC factory bloat.
Already running Android 4 on Vision.
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Sense 4 is FAST. Its not bloated. U should sign it anyway, if we got it then we would have all official libs and everything will work fine :')
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dhkr234 said:
Not interested in HTC factory bloat.
Already running Android 4 on Vision.
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An official release would help improve the custom roms you know. Luckily we'll be able to get drivers from the Desire HD and Desire S ISC OTAs
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Signed it

I hate being that guy who always hates on these threads, and I know that your hearts are in the right place, but this doesn't have a chance in hell. HTC is a company out to make money. Wasting dev time on an update to a phone that is neither a flagship device nor a big seller doesn't make them money. Updates ARE coming for phones with almost identical hardware. We will get official drivers, don't worry.
Rather than seeing one of these threads pop up every few weeks, why not work as a community to set up something like "Desire Z Donation Day", where everyone in the forum vows to give to Cyanogenmod or other devs who work on updating our devices for zero pay.
Again don't take this as putting you guys down, but let's work together on something that can have an actual impact.

Nospin said:
I hate being that guy who always hates on these threads, and I know that your hearts are in the right place, but this doesn't have a chance in hell. HTC is a company out to make money. Wasting dev time on an update to a phone that is neither a flagship device nor a big seller doesn't make them money. Updates ARE coming for phones with almost identical hardware. We will get official drivers, don't worry.
Rather than seeing one of these threads pop up every few weeks, why not work as a community to set up something like "Desire Z Donation Day", where everyone in the forum vows to give to Cyanogenmod or other devs who work on updating our devices for zero pay.
Again don't take this as putting you guys down, but let's work together on something that can have an actual impact.
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So right!
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Nospin said:
I hate being that guy who always hates on these threads, and I know that your hearts are in the right place, but this doesn't have a chance in hell. HTC is a company out to make money. Wasting dev time on an update to a phone that is neither a flagship device nor a big seller doesn't make them money. Updates ARE coming for phones with almost identical hardware. We will get official drivers, don't worry.
Rather than seeing one of these threads pop up every few weeks, why not work as a community to set up something like "Desire Z Donation Day", where everyone in the forum vows to give to Cyanogenmod or other devs who work on updating our devices for zero pay.
Again don't take this as putting you guys down, but let's work together on something that can have an actual impact.
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well said, and i agree. i believe everyone here should donate to the developers who work so hard for us to enjoy our phones. but also, at the same time, we have to do whatever we can to get the drivers(fast), so that the developers can finish the projects that they've been working on for so long.

Regardless of whether it's worth it or not, it only takes 30 seconds to fill out that petition. So everyone here should just give it a shot for what it's worth, even if it's worth nothing.

Nospin said:
I hate being that guy who always hates on these threads, and I know that your hearts are in the right place, but this doesn't have a chance in hell. HTC is a company out to make money. Wasting dev time on an update to a phone that is neither a flagship device nor a big seller doesn't make them money. Updates ARE coming for phones with almost identical hardware. We will get official drivers, don't worry.
Rather than seeing one of these threads pop up every few weeks, why not work as a community to set up something like "Desire Z Donation Day", where everyone in the forum vows to give to Cyanogenmod or other devs who work on updating our devices for zero pay.
Again don't take this as putting you guys down, but let's work together on something that can have an actual impact.
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And what are you suggesting we donate? Cyanogen already made it clear that donating won't speed up the process of any specific device, A similar situation happened when the CM team was making Windows Mobile roms. A Xperia X1 was paid for and sent out to Cyanogen and he never worked around to get a rom made for it. . .

I don't want to sound like I'm bashing at anyone or anything...but,
First off, the sole reason for donating DEV's is to show them your support. Tarroyo's reply kind of gave me a chuckle, I wasn't expecting such a reply at an XDA-like board.
That said, one of the reasons HTC will not release an update to the DZ is the fact it'll be plenty more work because they'd have to write several code for functions unique to our device, like the Hardware Keyboard. Devices such as the DHD (which are FLAGSHIP by the way) don't have this kind of work and building ICS for it would be less effort, hence less work, hence more time to focus on something else for the HTC DEV's. Even so, doing all of this isn't really hard for them, nor all that time consuming either...which takes us to the second reason why they won't build it, and that is because, for them, it's just not worth it. This has been said DOZENS of times, yet people still go like "petition this, petition that, change!". No change, no Official ICS. CM9, Andromadus, Quattro (and latter ROM's) will be more than enough. Besides, it has ALSO been mentioned that the DHD and DS have almost identical hardware, hence we will have no issue in getting OFFICIAL drivers.
Bottom line/ TL;DR is, we are not going to get official ICS for the DZ; ICS ROM's here will do; and this is almost a dead device as far as HTC is concerned.

Signed it
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For what it's worth it... Signed!

xT4Z1N4TRx said:
Sense 4 is FAST. Its not bloated. U should sign it anyway, if we got it then we would have all official libs and everything will work fine :')
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By definition, any added worthless crap that slows it down (perhaps not quite as much as older versions) is BLOAT.
NOT INTERESTED.
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An official release would help improve the custom roms you know. Luckily we'll be able to get drivers from the Desire HD and Desire S ISC OTAs
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In the VERY short term, perhaps.
In the long term, it will cripple them.
What we need is to filter the kernel out of the kernel source and learn how to patch newer kernels to work with this hardware. The sooner we get completely cut off by HTC (hopefully already has happened), the sooner this work will be underway, and the sooner we get a REAL GOOD AOSP system running, completely without crap.

Signed
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This isn't going to work as much as I'd like it to. To be honest some of the other posters are right. Other devices with identical hardware will get the update. With out current ics roms that's all that's missing. That "smoothness" because we don't have the right drivers. Be patient peeps. It took 2-3 months for the nexus s to get ics to where it is. Its gonna take a wee bit longer for us. (Not for me. Getting a gs2 next week )
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RushAOZ, you will be missed. (Just joking.)
But, you're pretty much on spot. Once they release the official drivers for our chipset we'll have a smoother experience, but most importantly a more stable/efficient/consistent one.

sign it~~
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signed it...
and just for the other "i don't care 'bout this" users: u don't care? then go buy a gnex... good luck with that

Signed in
Waiting for an update!
We have a phone that has the same characteristic of htc one v so we wants htc sense 4 and ics!
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Motorola Nexus Rumor

I guess the lesson here is that if you are not a Verizon customer, don't buy a Motorola product. Otherwise, you are treated like a booger...nice and shiny that gets lot of attention for a minute, and then flicked away and forgotten. Even though the Razor Nexus is a rumor, I think it will become a reality in the near future.
Oh yea, the other lesson here, don't always believe everything Motorola says. haha
http://www.examiner.com/article/report-motorola-will-make-next-google-nexus-smartphone

Interesting. Thanks for sharing.

this is highly beleievable to be honest :good:
seeing as google own motorola, all you have to do is put 2 and 2 together really lol they gain extra profit without having to share the profit with the phone manufacturer because they are the phone manufacturing as well as software manufacturer lol

This is highly unlickly. The next Nexus is going to be made by LG, not Motorola. Motorola MAY make the Nexus 5, if it ever comes out.
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djluis48 said:
This is highly unlickly. The next Nexus is going to be made by LG, not Motorola. Motorola MAY make the Nexus 5, if it ever comes out.
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Don't forget, rumour has it that there will be multiple Nexus devices coming out. We still won't know till they reveal them in a few days time at the event. So let's just have our fingers crossed that there are more choices for our devices (although I'll still ignore a Nexus from Motorola, they treat us customers like ****)

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Don't forget, rumour has it that there will be multiple Nexus devices coming out. We still won't know till they reveal them in a few days time at the event. So let's just have our fingers crossed that there are more choices for our devices (although I'll still ignore a Nexus from Motorola, they treat us customers like ****)
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That turned out to just be one elaborate hoax, the guy/gal who started it came forward. No multiple nexus phones, theme centre and so on.
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I'd consider that. I'm happy with the hardware. That whole ICS cocktease was absurd tho.
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No more Moto for me. Hardware is fine but update support is minor.

but is there a really interest to go to ICS or JB ???
does the actual GB rom isn't suffiiciant for a while ?
i think there is a lot of app that work on atrix and GB so why go to ICS or GB ? UI , software update , ergonomy ? but in fact what's new ?
i'm a linux user not android for now ... soon, with atrix perhaps

attrixnor said:
but is there a really interest to go to ICS or JB ???
does the actual GB rom isn't suffiiciant for a while ?
i think there is a lot of app that work on atrix and GB so why go to ICS or GB ? UI , software update , ergonomy ? but in fact what's new ?
i'm a linux user not android for now ... soon, with atrix perhaps
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The issue isn't so much that ICS/JB is any better than GB.................it's more that it was promised and indicated on the Moto website, then the support was pulled for this development. They should have communicated more with the customers, and been honest about the plans for the future. Instead they have ended up losing a lot of consumers who would have been loyal had they not reneged on their promises.

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The issue isn't so much that ICS/JB is any better than GB.................it's more that it was promised and indicated on the Moto website, then the support was pulled for this development. They should have communicated more with the customers, and been honest about the plans for the future. Instead they have ended up losing a lot of consumers who would have been loyal had they not reneged on their promises.
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There are a couple of reasons to upgrade to ICS/JB. One is security. There are enhancements (such as ASLR) which make it much more difficult for hackers to run their own code on your phone. The other is usability. ICS and JB is just way more usable IMO. The UI is clean, and requires less taps to get to common functions. I stayed on GB for a while, tried ICS and though, meh. But JB was a huge jump in maturity in the OS.

attrixnor said:
but is there a really interest to go to ICS or JB ???
does the actual GB rom isn't suffiiciant for a while ?
i think there is a lot of app that work on atrix and GB so why go to ICS or GB ? UI , software update , ergonomy ? but in fact what's new ?
i'm a linux user not android for now ... soon, with atrix perhaps
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To expand on the previous post. There are many security flaws in GB. Look ho often desk tops are updated to close possible exploits. With smart phones becoming ever more popular they are coming under increasing threats. JB fixes many of the possible exploits. My phone contains most of my personal data including banking information. I want to keep that data safe.
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i anderstand so much now

CaelanT said:
The issue isn't so much that ICS/JB is any better than GB.................it's more that it was promised and indicated on the Moto website, then the support was pulled for this development. They should have communicated more with the customers, and been honest about the plans for the future. Instead they have ended up losing a lot of consumers who would have been loyal had they not reneged on their promises.
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^ Plus on top of that they started us with Froyo, when GB was already out.
The only "real" support the Atrix ever got was when BL Unlock got leaked.
I find it funny that the devs here made Motorola's team look like a bunch of chimps...
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ccrows said:
^ Plus on top of that they started us with Froyo, when GB was already out.
The only "real" support the Atrix ever got was when BL Unlock got leaked.
I find it funny that the devs here made Motorola's team look like a bunch of chimps...
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Motorola's dev are not bad at all. Motorola Management is.

if motorola dev read us pretty sure , please post the new kernel for ics ....a gift for christmas :highfive:
go back to earth
xda dev work hard on new lg kernel i think ... it's our only way

ticiano_arraes said:
Motorola's dev are not bad at all. Motorola Management is.
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*Thinks about Motoblur for a second*
Gotta disagree...
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grevedan said:
There are a couple of reasons to upgrade to ICS/JB. One is security. There are enhancements (such as ASLR) which make it much more difficult for hackers to run their own code on your phone. The other is usability. ICS and JB is just way more usable IMO. The UI is clean, and requires less taps to get to common functions. I stayed on GB for a while, tried ICS and though, meh. But JB was a huge jump in maturity in the OS.
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But, what I see as the major beef from the majority of people is nothing more than the fact they didn't get the update. Most people, including those who frequent the XDA (Atrix) forums here, couldn't tell you what is different other than to say UI, face unlock, and kernel.
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*Thinks about Motoblur for a second*
Gotta disagree...
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You don't seem to realize just how much influence the management can have over development.
I'm also a full-time developer so I know.

Rarz nexus hohoh
always the same appearance of the Razr, never innovates

Development dead?

As I have started using this wonderful phone I have come to the realization that the development for this device is next to nothing. Are there any more developers as devoted to this community as I am?
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Lol, way to post this in the dev section...
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I think everybody is just taking a break and getting ready for the next update. By the way this thread should be in the general thread.
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Its a question to the developers not the general public
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..... are you kidding me right now?..
how many roms do i pump out for this device? how many kernels does mathkid and r_data push for this device? ect ect...
you wanna see a dead device go look at an lg optimus or somethin

evol4g said:
..... are you kidding me right now?..
how many roms do i pump out for this device? how many kernels does mathkid and r_data push for this device? ect ect...
you wanna see a dead device go look at an lg optimus or somethin
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there are a few developers and belive me i know a dead device i developed for the zte warp untill the androidforums.com mods told me there was no use move on.... the diference is there is no "community development" when multiple people work together to build the best rom possible and there id no themeing either which is a substancial part of any development community. i respect you evol4g otherwise i wouldnt have asked you to my team you are doing a great job keep it going the point of this post was to motivate some of the other developers that have been dormant since jellybean came out you all know that they are out there.

Mostly because people are waiting for 4.2. A lot of the current ROMs are similar and very stable so no need to really make new ROMs unless its say Touchwiz, Sense, or any other custom Android firmware. Wait until 4.2 and devs will probably start making more ROMs.

Incorrect thread is incorrect.
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I will preface my comment by saying i really do appreciate all of the work still being done here. But, let's not kid ourselves. Compared to a year ago, or even 6 months ago, the development has slowed down substantially. I wouldn't say its dead, however this device is showing its age. There are new and better devices that a lot of the people that used to frequent this forum. have moved on to.
Again I do appreciate all of the work still happening in here. This is by far the best supported device I have owned!
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i have to agree with you. but i want to pick it back up this device has potential you cant even imagine

After a year and a half I don't think there's much potential a dev hasn't thought of for this device. You don't see a lot of rom development much after the 2 year mark. Mainly because the devs upgrade to a new phone. I'm just grateful for the work the devs are currently doing!
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well im stuck on this phone for a while so you guys that are in the same situation ill keep working with you guys

It will pick back up when el goog releases 4.2 source. I don't think nexus s will "officially" get 5.0. I do think that a few devs will build it for this device regardless. I might even still be here for that, I haven't decided if I'm going to get a nexus 4 yet. The fact that there is potential for glass to break on both sides of the phone doesn't excite me...
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*looks around*
Nope. No development in this thread, that is in the development section.
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Highway 55 said:
I will preface my comment by saying i really do appreciate all of the work still being done here. But, let's not kid ourselves. Compared to a year ago, or even 6 months ago, the development has slowed down substantially. I wouldn't say its dead, however this device is showing its age. There are new and better devices that a lot of the people that used to frequent this forum. have moved on to.
Again I do appreciate all of the work still happening in here. This is by far the best supported device I have owned!
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Good points and when development does eventually grind to a halt for this device, none of us can really get upset about that. It seems to me for the age of this device, development work has far outlived many other phones.
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For a device of this age, with new devices out that trump it... to see any ROMs getting updated is amazing. Take a look at the HTC Vivid for a community that's dead!

Highway 55 said:
It will pick back up when el goog releases 4.2 source. I don't think nexus s will "officially" get 5.0. I do think that a few devs will build it for this device regardless. I might even still be here for that, I haven't decided if I'm going to get a nexus 4 yet. The fact that there is potential for glass to break on both sides of the phone doesn't excite me...
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No LTE is pretty upsetting as well.

ubnub82 said:
No LTE is pretty upsetting as well.
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For a new phone, yes. And from what I've been hearing, the battery life isn't even that great, considering the lack of LTE...
I'm a "new" Nexus S owner (bought one used for $120)... and I'm glad I did. It's a solid phone! Now only if I could figure out how to program peak and off-peak email syncing...

I think we'll have the option to have community aosp 5. It will be an option. Just liked the other nexus phones that stopped getting otas but had the option of a built one.
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Maybe we should all learn how to develop ROMs. That go's for all non developers in this community, including me. If there was any guides on how to build really good ROMs I think the nexus community will be more understanding of how it is to be a developer and evolve the community.
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