I've found that on ICS ROM's specific games tend to look much better than on Stock ROM's without much of a sacrifice for general performance. However because the touchpads work better on the Stock ROM's it's usually better to go for one of them!
So, I've been trying to find a way to get similar looks on the Stock ROM's without much of a decrease in performance and with options to revert back if needed with ease.
As many of you may know, Chainfire3D doesn't really bode well with ICS or JB however I've got it running on MarkPython's Stock ICS ROM and I've got several games that would normally look extremely poor with very low textures to now look much better with not much of a drop in framerate!
NOVA 3 for example, looks terrible normally on this ROM. However with Chainfire3D and a plugin or two you can get it to look really good!
That being said, I have gone a little too far currently and made it look so good that it now plays for about 3 seconds before crashing! But hey, that's not the point!
What I'm trying to find out is, what combinations of modifications, apps and other things do you use in order to push your Xperia Play to the limit and get whatever performance it can get?
I guess clock speeds and benchmark results would also be a good thing to post so... I'm running at 1.6Ghz, deadline, performance/smartassV2. Best I've ever managed on Nenamark is 35.9 FPS and I currently have all games on FPSe running at 60fps at all times.
But how is the framerate on NOVA 3? If it's looking that good performance can't be great.
Yeah, on average with the standard textures the game provides you get a fair framerate... Which is somewhat consistant when the textures are higher too.. Hence why i was so confused when they're so low on the Stock ROM but not as bad on CM9.
Which is why i was trying to find the balance between the two with Chainfire3D...
Unfortunately it puts the textures up VERY high and makes the game look great! Downside is framerate is terrible and eventually the game crashes..
However! The Play can hand much better than what is set by the game.. What you're given almost makes my eyes bleed just looking at it.
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on SGS2, I found MC3 had some differences like graphical effects
(better on SGS2), and briefings before missions.
My atrix made lower frames and even no lighting effects.
are these due tegra2? could I make it better?
I think graphical performance of atrix is good enough, sufficiently to run MC3 wih no graphic limits..
Had no such things as you describe. Ive got briefings before and within missions (actually to many briefings...) and have great effects.
Try replacing your kernel, it helped me with other games, maybe it will help here as well...
Runs well for me, great graphics. Unfortunately not as great as my friends iphone though.
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; is it just for the kernel? then i will try with faux123's latest kernel,
thanks
I have not experienced this either.
correct error ...hh
now i see the briefings..!
but look carefully on your guns, can you see the light effects also?
I've been running AOKP on my GSII for months and love the ROM but I'm unimpressed with the Nook Color version. It has really bad lag in everything I do. I'm new to hacking the NC so I'm looking for the fastest ROM out there. Something doesn't completely pale in comparison to my GS2.
Does anyone have a ROM or ROM/Kernal combo recommendation? Is it worth V6 supercharging or running anything else to help speed it up?
Thanks much
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man i agree .every rom shakie .i kinda gave up on the nook for a little while.
i put cm9 simple on my FIRE now...what a difference. my kindle fire runs cm9 awsome...
Why won't me nook run like my FIRE? (NO LAG)
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Why won't me nook run like my FIRE? (NO LAG)
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Several reasons. The Fire is a much more powerful machine, dual core 1GZ out of the box, hardware video acceleration, etc.
The first step when experiencing sluggishness or lag with the nook color should be to set maximum cpu speed to not more than 1100MHx... several nook colors have been known to have issues with any clock speed above this... remember, while the cpu's they put in them are capable of running 1200MHz ideally... they rated them at 800MHz for a reason.
CPU manufacturer aren't going to deliberately under-rate their processors for no reason... and they aren't going to do it to sell them cheaper... they do it because there was something going on that they are not comfortable supplying warranty for underperforming processors.
I have also noticed that sluggishness in rather static operations (like book page turns) can be improved by raising the min to 600 from 300. At least that is how it seems. Does that make sense?
I've bumped the clock on mine to the 1000MHZ range but left the lower at 300MHZ. Does bumping the lower help with just with idle performance?
I guess my biggest problem is that I'm comparing the NC loosely to my SGS2. I know that's not fair and I need to lower my standards here. But is there a reasonable expectation that screen swipes are smooth and basic programs like Kindle, email, and web browsing will run without stuttering excessively?
Is there one ROM that stands heads and shoulders above the rest in the speed category?
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It's nothing fancy, but CM 7.2 Mirage has been very responsive and stable for me. I don't do any heavy graphics games or the like, but it works well for streaming Netflix. My reader and email apps are responsive. Mirage incorporates some of the optimizations from Supercharger V6 already, so there's not a lot of twiddling required. I run mine at 1.2 GHz with no issue, and have done so for months.
It's not life in the fast lane, but it's solid and makes the NC work well for the basics I bought it for.
+1 MiRaGe-Kang. It, the Nook Color, won't play Crysis but I don't ask it to. I want to watch a TV show, (screw HD. If you have to have HD buy an Apple product and haunt *their* forums), at lunch. Listen to audio books/music as I'm traveling, read something at night and beep me awake. Throw in the occasional solitaire, Angry Birds or Tetris to kill time in line and you've got the idea.
I follow the updates for fun but for the average user I would recommend that you just make sure the latest update is stable, apply it and not worry about it anymore until you start wondering about ICS or Jelly Bean.
Wow, this is definitely faster than the AOKP I was running. Noticed a big difference right away. Odd because AOKP is based on CM9 I think. Guess CM7 is just a better fit.
Thanks everyone for your responses
Hi guys,
first of all let me apologize for this stupid question. Personally I hate these questions too, but I have my device in service for 3 weeks, therefore I'm not able to continue with my research...
It's already a long time since I've bought my G2 (D802). Of course, the first thing what I've done > go to custom ROM ... (It's my habit since Xperia Arc S) I think that I was dissappointed of my new LG G2 even then. Games wasn't fluent and lagless as I supposed they should be. It was another good reason to go to the custom ROM. But unfortunatelly and surprisingly it was even worse. So I find another thing why is that so bad. In that time custom ROMS wasnť based on Kitkat sources (kernel), so I hoped that everything will be fine after developers merge source code. But the improvement has never become (in that form I hoped for) In that time I became reconciled that I will never play games on my G2 as smooth as on my iPad.
That's the reason why I'm looking for the best ROM for games. (I'm a heavy gamer)
So my question: Do you know any good rom for Gaming? Could you recommend me something?
I tried Mahdi. PA, Beanstalk, Slim ROM, CloudyStock, Pro, Flex, G3... But none of these ROMs is fine...
(I can't understand how can be Cloudy ROMs so popular (Nothing against Cloudyfa ) because they have too many lags in games !!! I think it's more laggier than stock...
DominikHolecek said:
Hi guys,
first of all let me apologize for this stupid question. Personally I hate these questions too, but I have my device in service for 3 weeks, therefore I'm not able to continue with my research...
It's already a long time since I've bought my G2 (D802). Of course, the first thing what I've done > go to custom ROM ... (It's my habit since Xperia Arc S) I think that I was dissappointed of my new LG G2 even then. Games wasn't fluent and lagless as I supposed they should be. It was another good reason to go to the custom ROM. But unfortunatelly and surprisingly it was even worse. So I find another thing why is that so bad. In that time custom ROMS wasnť based on Kitkat sources (kernel), so I hoped that everything will be fine after developers merge source code. But the improvement has never become (in that form I hoped for) In that time I became reconciled that I will never play games on my G2 as smooth as on my iPad.
That's the reason why I'm looking for the best ROM for games. (I'm a heavy gamer)
So my question: Do you know any good rom for Gaming? Could you recommend me something?
I tried Mahdi. PA, Beanstalk, Slim ROM, CloudyStock, Pro, Flex, G3... But none of these ROMs is fine...
(I can't understand how can be Cloudy ROMs so popular (Nothing against Cloudyfa ) because they have too many lags in games !!! I think it's more laggier than stock...
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What's the definition of "lagless" for you, and what games are you playing?
First of all, you have to realise and acknowledge that this is a smartphone. No matter what, it's still a phone and it's not made for heavy gaming. Second, you have to realise that despite the fact that many developers (ie Gameloft) has a lot of experience with games, they're too lazy too optimize them even for the most powerful chips out there. The games utilise 100% CPU speed even if they don't need it at all, and then the CPU throttles down because it's becoming too hot. Logic/10.
Thirdly, you have to realise that the ROM is not what makes the game fluid or lag-free. It's the kernel.
Since the G2 (like ALL other phones) is cooled passively (it has no fan whatsoever), it's important that it runs as cool as possible to prevent overheating and throttling.
My advice to you would be the following:
Install your favourite ROM and a kernel you can tweak heavily (gpu/cpu). A good bet would be dorimanx.
Go to kernel settings, and chance max frequency to 1.27 Ghz or around that. Change governor to performance.
Change GPU to 450 Mhz.
Try playing a game =)
I used to play Asphalt 8 back when I first got the phone and I got about 30 FPS? Anyway it was smooth as butter, and I see no real reason why you want to put a custom rom on your phone. The good 'ol days where nothing was better than custom roms are pretty much over. Stock is just fine, root it, use a custom kernel if neccessary and use xposed. Will solve it.
vPro97 said:
What's the definition of "lagless" for you, and what games are you playing?
First of all, you have to realise and acknowledge that this is a smartphone. No matter what, it's still a phone and it's not made for heavy gaming. Second, you have to realise that despite the fact that many developers (ie Gameloft) has a lot of experience with games, they're too lazy too optimize them even for the most powerful chips out there. The games utilise 100% CPU speed even if they don't need it at all, and then the CPU throttles down because it's becoming too hot. Logic/10.
Thirdly, you have to realise that the ROM is not what makes the game fluid or lag-free. It's the kernel.
Since the G2 (like ALL other phones) is cooled passively (it has no fan whatsoever), it's important that it runs as cool as possible to prevent overheating and throttling.
My advice to you would be the following:
Install your favourite ROM and a kernel you can tweak heavily (gpu/cpu). A good bet would be dorimanx.
Go to kernel settings, and chance max frequency to 1.27 Ghz or around that. Change governor to performance.
Change GPU to 450 Mhz.
Try playing a game =)
I used to play Asphalt 8 back when I first got the phone and I got about 30 FPS? Anyway it was smooth as butter, and I see no real reason why you want to put a custom rom on your phone. The good 'ol days where nothing was better than custom roms are pretty much over. Stock is just fine, root it, use a custom kernel if neccessary and use xposed. Will solve it.
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Of course that kernel is the most important thing in performance (because of sequencer laws, etc...), but nowadays we have no (except render) custom kernels for AOSP/ CM ROMs, so my question was focused on a ROM → I connected it to the whole... (And furthermore each ROM has own kernel. + ROM can cause lags as well)
used to play Asphalt 8 back when I first got the phone and I got about 30 FPS?
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Unfortunately these times are gone, at least I think it. There were lots of updates, which increase the performance consumption (Simply they add tons of new features and stuff, but they ,,forget" to optimize that... ) I played this game, Dead trigger 2, Dungeon Hunter 4 and even simple games like traffic racer with incredibly high count of lags (And it wasn't lags in miliseconds → not always). I thought it was because of my current ROM (Mahdi) so I tried PA and then stock based ROMs (CloudyFlex, Stock) but nearly no changes) Therefore I think it will be the same on stock ROMs too, if it's on Cloudy ROM with heavily optimized kernel, system... (Even Dorimanx kernel doesn't change anything).
Go to kernel settings, and chance max frequency to 1.27 Ghz or around that. Change governor to performance.
Change GPU to 450 Mhz
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Thanks for this tip, I tried something similar but with UC to 1,9 GHz and I didn't set governor to performance (My device was incredibly hot in a while with performance governor), I didn't notice any bigger changes - I expected that lower frequency will cause even more lags and I was obviously wrong. For sure I will try your advice.... :laugh:
The good 'ol days where nothing was better than custom roms are pretty much over. Stock is just fine, root it, use a custom kernel if neccessary and use xposed. Will solve it
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I don't like the LG's design of system, and I don't like xposed → it causes higher battery consumption and it ,,eats" RAM and performance (At least on my previous device )
i have 10 xposed modules installed and i didn't notice any additional battery decrease...
as for ram, as stated many times - free ram = wasted ram...
as for the thread - "what's the best this&that" threads aren't allowed on xda
i played rr3 and csr racing on this device and didn't notice anything wrong with the framerate (stock kk v20f, rooted with dorimanx kernel on default)
Oddly enough, I haven't noticed a major change in gaming performance coming from the S4 Pro. Asphalt 8 specifically is buggy, sluggish, etc on my LG OG & G2, but I don't care for android gaming since the apps aren't optimized (too many HW configs, whereas iOS is just SGX & Ax chips).
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First of all, I like to say that we lacked similar threads, so OP started an useful topic. I would have stayed with simple dual-core smartphone, but I bought G2 in November for a reason, to try new games and so on, I woudn't have bought it if I needed a phone only for texting and browsing, like many argue like this. What I observed is that, 2,3 Ghz for a phone with passive cooling is a nonsense because after few minutes of gaming it will keep running like 1,5 Ghz and lower, hell what's the use of those 4 cores if a device would burn out. I never owned an apple product, but on my colleague's 5S, they run very smooth and fast with same graphics on a dual-core, so it all goes to optimazing and not using these ridiculous frequencies. I was expecting a lot from a phone like that, sorry for a long post.
Hi, i'm looking for a good rom for gaming and general use (texting, calling etc) I want it to be able to handle games like Mortal Kombat X (at a playable frame-rate)
Currently i'm running on an old build of Optimized CM13 (Which of course is called LineageOS, but i have an old build so it's still Cyanogenmod) I have also tried Game Booster apps but they don't make that much of a difference.
Try an AOSP ROM, not LineageOS. CyanogenMod never tested the code they threw into the source, leading to lots of bugs and a general slowness for LineageOS.
I'd recommend you try GLTools or Screen Shift.
Screen Shift can reduce the resolution of your screen, thus improving performance. And yes, it actually works. I'm using it to play Yu-Gi-Oh Duel Links. Without Screen Shift the game is really laggy, not unplayable but not smooth either, with Screen Shift it it's a lot better and smoother. The lowest resolution I recommend, without having black bars, is 480x854.
GLTools kinda does the same, but it also has more advanced options like emulating another CPU/GPU.
It allows you to reduce the graphics and resolution to improve performance or you can also increase them if your phone's is capable of running it smooth at such high settings (which is not the case for you I guess).
I myself am using Screen Shift. GLTools doesn't seem to make any difference to my game at all.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
Try an AOSP ROM, not LineageOS. CyanogenMod never tested the code they threw into the source, leading to lots of bugs and a general slowness for LineageOS.
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Ok thanks.
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I'd recommend you try GLTools or Screen Shift.
Screen Shift can reduce the resolution of your screen, thus improving performance. And yes, it actually works. I'm using it to play Yu-Gi-Oh Duel Links. Without Screen Shift the game is really laggy, not unplayable but not smooth either, with Screen Shift it it's a lot better and smoother. The lowest resolution I recommend, without having black bars, is 480x854.
GLTools kinda does the same, but it also has more advanced options like emulating another CPU/GPU.
It allows you to reduce the graphics and resolution to improve performance or you can also increase them if your phone's is capable of running it smooth at such high settings (which is not the case for you I guess).
I myself am using Screen Shift. GLTools doesn't seem to make any difference to my game at all.
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Thanks for telling me about these tools! will check them out later. GLTools sounds good, hope it'l work for me.
I do a lot of gaming on my phone and I'm always looking for ways to improve performance and efficiency. I was under the impression that Qualcomm made the adreno drivers upgradeable but I can't seem to find out how.
Also, does anyone know any OOS11 compatible kernels that support gpu overclock? Only one I could find is radioactive that supports 670mhz but I've seen other OOS10 kernels that support higher than that. Thanks a bunch.
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I do a lot of gaming on my phone and I'm always looking for ways to improve performance and efficiency. I was under the impression that Qualcomm made the adreno drivers upgradeable but I can't seem to find out how.
Also, does anyone know any OOS11 compatible kernels that support gpu overclock? Only one I could find is radioactive that supports 670mhz but I've seen other OOS10 kernels that support higher than that. Thanks a bunch.
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What are you playing that it can't run.?
I run emulators, the hardest of which would be the Wii but that runs flawlessly.
Sure there's a PS2 one out there but that's slow because it's not finished..
I'm set to see anything that would require a push from a kernel.
Magisk has upgraded drivers..
If you really must then use radioactive....totally unnecessary but there you go.
Also search for adreno in play store, there's plenty of apps to mod your drivers and such.
I'd be interested to hear what you're actually doing that requires it though.
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I do a lot of gaming on my phone and I'm always looking for ways to improve performance and efficiency. I was under the impression that Qualcomm made the adreno drivers upgradeable but I can't seem to find out how.
Also, does anyone know any OOS11 compatible kernels that support gpu overclock? Only one I could find is radioactive that supports 670mhz but I've seen other OOS10 kernels that support higher than that. Thanks a bunch.
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https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/onepl...adreno-update-graphics-drivers-1-0-1-release/
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What are you playing that it can't run.?
I run emulators, the hardest of which would be the Wii but that runs flawlessly.
Sure there's a PS2 one out there but that's slow because it's not finished..
I'm set to see anything that would require a push from a kernel.
Magisk has upgraded drivers..
If you really must then use radioactive....totally unnecessary but there you go.
Also search for adreno in play store, there's plenty of apps to mod your drivers and such.
I'd be interested to hear what you're actually doing that requires it though.
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I definitely don't require it, and you've got it right- there really isn't much you can throw at it that it can't handle, and nothing here is a need per se. I just simply like to have absolute latest and greatest just for sake of having it and that might just be me. As far as things that I have thrown at it that I wouldn't mind a couple more fps, even though at this rate is a bit of a nit-pick; Lineage II Revolution (High pop areas), Genshin impact, Ark, TauCeti, Dolphin emu wii(CODMW3, mostly) games + GC games internal res @ 1080P to be screen cast to my TV. Plus I'm a bit of a benchmark nerd ...because epeen.
Anyways, I appreciate your response and I'm always looking out for your posts as you seem to be one of the most knowledgeable out here :good:
Edit: just realized I mentioned someone named 1080P lol
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I definitely don't require it, and you've got it right- there really isn't much you can throw at it that it can't handle, and nothing here is a need per se. I just simply like to have absolute latest and greatest just for sake of having it and that might just be me. As far as things that I have thrown at it that I wouldn't mind a couple more fps, even though at this rate is a bit of a nit-pick; Lineage II Revolution (High pop areas), Genshin impact, Ark, TauCeti, Dolphin emu wii(CODMW3, mostly) games + GC games internal res @ 1080P to be screen cast to my TV. Plus I'm a bit of a benchmark nerd ...because epeen.
Anyways, I appreciate your response and I'm always looking out for your posts as you seem to be one of the most knowledgeable out here :good:
Edit: just realized I mentioned someone named 1080P lol
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Lol no worries man. I definitely get what you mean, sometimes it's nice to know you can rather then need to.
Thanks btw.
Also the adreno driver. Be nice if it was more efficient..
I'm trying to break 10 hours consistently, always lands on 9 hours with 15% left.
Currently on EX.
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Lol no worries man. I definitely get what you mean, sometimes it's nice to know you can rather then need to.
Thanks btw.
Also the adreno driver. Be nice if it was more efficient..
I'm trying to break 10 hours consistently, always lands on 9 hours with 15% left.
Currently on EX.
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Exactly. Yes, efficiency is always something I'm looking for as well. There's times, especially when I'm home near the charger that I like to crank things up a bit, but always have to be careful running heavy games on the go. 3d mark wild life stress test benchmark used 10% in 20 mins!! Of course, that's not real-world use, luckily.