Hi guys,
first of all let me apologize for this stupid question. Personally I hate these questions too, but I have my device in service for 3 weeks, therefore I'm not able to continue with my research...
It's already a long time since I've bought my G2 (D802). Of course, the first thing what I've done > go to custom ROM ... (It's my habit since Xperia Arc S) I think that I was dissappointed of my new LG G2 even then. Games wasn't fluent and lagless as I supposed they should be. It was another good reason to go to the custom ROM. But unfortunatelly and surprisingly it was even worse. So I find another thing why is that so bad. In that time custom ROMS wasnť based on Kitkat sources (kernel), so I hoped that everything will be fine after developers merge source code. But the improvement has never become (in that form I hoped for) In that time I became reconciled that I will never play games on my G2 as smooth as on my iPad.
That's the reason why I'm looking for the best ROM for games. (I'm a heavy gamer)
So my question: Do you know any good rom for Gaming? Could you recommend me something?
I tried Mahdi. PA, Beanstalk, Slim ROM, CloudyStock, Pro, Flex, G3... But none of these ROMs is fine...
(I can't understand how can be Cloudy ROMs so popular (Nothing against Cloudyfa ) because they have too many lags in games !!! I think it's more laggier than stock...
DominikHolecek said:
Hi guys,
first of all let me apologize for this stupid question. Personally I hate these questions too, but I have my device in service for 3 weeks, therefore I'm not able to continue with my research...
It's already a long time since I've bought my G2 (D802). Of course, the first thing what I've done > go to custom ROM ... (It's my habit since Xperia Arc S) I think that I was dissappointed of my new LG G2 even then. Games wasn't fluent and lagless as I supposed they should be. It was another good reason to go to the custom ROM. But unfortunatelly and surprisingly it was even worse. So I find another thing why is that so bad. In that time custom ROMS wasnť based on Kitkat sources (kernel), so I hoped that everything will be fine after developers merge source code. But the improvement has never become (in that form I hoped for) In that time I became reconciled that I will never play games on my G2 as smooth as on my iPad.
That's the reason why I'm looking for the best ROM for games. (I'm a heavy gamer)
So my question: Do you know any good rom for Gaming? Could you recommend me something?
I tried Mahdi. PA, Beanstalk, Slim ROM, CloudyStock, Pro, Flex, G3... But none of these ROMs is fine...
(I can't understand how can be Cloudy ROMs so popular (Nothing against Cloudyfa ) because they have too many lags in games !!! I think it's more laggier than stock...
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What's the definition of "lagless" for you, and what games are you playing?
First of all, you have to realise and acknowledge that this is a smartphone. No matter what, it's still a phone and it's not made for heavy gaming. Second, you have to realise that despite the fact that many developers (ie Gameloft) has a lot of experience with games, they're too lazy too optimize them even for the most powerful chips out there. The games utilise 100% CPU speed even if they don't need it at all, and then the CPU throttles down because it's becoming too hot. Logic/10.
Thirdly, you have to realise that the ROM is not what makes the game fluid or lag-free. It's the kernel.
Since the G2 (like ALL other phones) is cooled passively (it has no fan whatsoever), it's important that it runs as cool as possible to prevent overheating and throttling.
My advice to you would be the following:
Install your favourite ROM and a kernel you can tweak heavily (gpu/cpu). A good bet would be dorimanx.
Go to kernel settings, and chance max frequency to 1.27 Ghz or around that. Change governor to performance.
Change GPU to 450 Mhz.
Try playing a game =)
I used to play Asphalt 8 back when I first got the phone and I got about 30 FPS? Anyway it was smooth as butter, and I see no real reason why you want to put a custom rom on your phone. The good 'ol days where nothing was better than custom roms are pretty much over. Stock is just fine, root it, use a custom kernel if neccessary and use xposed. Will solve it.
vPro97 said:
What's the definition of "lagless" for you, and what games are you playing?
First of all, you have to realise and acknowledge that this is a smartphone. No matter what, it's still a phone and it's not made for heavy gaming. Second, you have to realise that despite the fact that many developers (ie Gameloft) has a lot of experience with games, they're too lazy too optimize them even for the most powerful chips out there. The games utilise 100% CPU speed even if they don't need it at all, and then the CPU throttles down because it's becoming too hot. Logic/10.
Thirdly, you have to realise that the ROM is not what makes the game fluid or lag-free. It's the kernel.
Since the G2 (like ALL other phones) is cooled passively (it has no fan whatsoever), it's important that it runs as cool as possible to prevent overheating and throttling.
My advice to you would be the following:
Install your favourite ROM and a kernel you can tweak heavily (gpu/cpu). A good bet would be dorimanx.
Go to kernel settings, and chance max frequency to 1.27 Ghz or around that. Change governor to performance.
Change GPU to 450 Mhz.
Try playing a game =)
I used to play Asphalt 8 back when I first got the phone and I got about 30 FPS? Anyway it was smooth as butter, and I see no real reason why you want to put a custom rom on your phone. The good 'ol days where nothing was better than custom roms are pretty much over. Stock is just fine, root it, use a custom kernel if neccessary and use xposed. Will solve it.
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Of course that kernel is the most important thing in performance (because of sequencer laws, etc...), but nowadays we have no (except render) custom kernels for AOSP/ CM ROMs, so my question was focused on a ROM → I connected it to the whole... (And furthermore each ROM has own kernel. + ROM can cause lags as well)
used to play Asphalt 8 back when I first got the phone and I got about 30 FPS?
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Unfortunately these times are gone, at least I think it. There were lots of updates, which increase the performance consumption (Simply they add tons of new features and stuff, but they ,,forget" to optimize that... ) I played this game, Dead trigger 2, Dungeon Hunter 4 and even simple games like traffic racer with incredibly high count of lags (And it wasn't lags in miliseconds → not always). I thought it was because of my current ROM (Mahdi) so I tried PA and then stock based ROMs (CloudyFlex, Stock) but nearly no changes) Therefore I think it will be the same on stock ROMs too, if it's on Cloudy ROM with heavily optimized kernel, system... (Even Dorimanx kernel doesn't change anything).
Go to kernel settings, and chance max frequency to 1.27 Ghz or around that. Change governor to performance.
Change GPU to 450 Mhz
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Thanks for this tip, I tried something similar but with UC to 1,9 GHz and I didn't set governor to performance (My device was incredibly hot in a while with performance governor), I didn't notice any bigger changes - I expected that lower frequency will cause even more lags and I was obviously wrong. For sure I will try your advice.... :laugh:
The good 'ol days where nothing was better than custom roms are pretty much over. Stock is just fine, root it, use a custom kernel if neccessary and use xposed. Will solve it
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I don't like the LG's design of system, and I don't like xposed → it causes higher battery consumption and it ,,eats" RAM and performance (At least on my previous device )
i have 10 xposed modules installed and i didn't notice any additional battery decrease...
as for ram, as stated many times - free ram = wasted ram...
as for the thread - "what's the best this&that" threads aren't allowed on xda
i played rr3 and csr racing on this device and didn't notice anything wrong with the framerate (stock kk v20f, rooted with dorimanx kernel on default)
Oddly enough, I haven't noticed a major change in gaming performance coming from the S4 Pro. Asphalt 8 specifically is buggy, sluggish, etc on my LG OG & G2, but I don't care for android gaming since the apps aren't optimized (too many HW configs, whereas iOS is just SGX & Ax chips).
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First of all, I like to say that we lacked similar threads, so OP started an useful topic. I would have stayed with simple dual-core smartphone, but I bought G2 in November for a reason, to try new games and so on, I woudn't have bought it if I needed a phone only for texting and browsing, like many argue like this. What I observed is that, 2,3 Ghz for a phone with passive cooling is a nonsense because after few minutes of gaming it will keep running like 1,5 Ghz and lower, hell what's the use of those 4 cores if a device would burn out. I never owned an apple product, but on my colleague's 5S, they run very smooth and fast with same graphics on a dual-core, so it all goes to optimazing and not using these ridiculous frequencies. I was expecting a lot from a phone like that, sorry for a long post.
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Hi
Im currently running Paranoid Android with Nova Launcher plus homescreen widgets and a fairly simple live wallpaper.
Gaming is not that great, emulators run fine but games like NOVA 3 and Asphalt 7 are choppy.
Ive checked CPU-Z and my CPU usage keeps jumping from around 10% to 100% so I guess I have a problem.
I know I could just uninstall a load of stuff and get rid of a lot of my customisations, which Im sure would help, but while Im on this I may as well get the best ROM I can for gaming.
Ive read stuff about CPU and GPU throttling and undervoltage setting etc, and to be honest I dont really want to go messing around too much.
Is there are ROM that has been optimised for gaming? Or should I revert back to stock? Or stick with PA and clean out all the crap?
Please help, I just got myself a MOGA PRO and its excellent, but choppy frame rates in most games are a real pain!
Thanks
Nat.
Traffik said:
Hi
Im currently running Paranoid Android with Nova Launcher plus homescreen widgets and a fairly simple live wallpaper.
Gaming is not that great, emulators run fine but games like NOVA 3 and Asphalt 7 are choppy.
Ive checked CPU-Z and my CPU usage keeps jumping from around 10% to 100% so I guess I have a problem.
I know I could just uninstall a load of stuff and get rid of a lot of my customisations, which Im sure would help, but while Im on this I may as well get the best ROM I can for gaming.
Ive read stuff about CPU and GPU throttling and undervoltage setting etc, and to be honest I dont really want to go messing around too much.
Is there are ROM that has been optimised for gaming? Or should I revert back to stock? Or stick with PA and clean out all the crap?
Please help, I just got myself a MOGA PRO and its excellent, but choppy frame rates in most games are a real pain!
Thanks
Nat.
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I would think that the kernel would have more importance in gaming performance than the rom itself, try FauxKernal/Matrix kernel which has slightly overclocked gpu
Traffik said:
Hi
Im currently running Paranoid Android with Nova Launcher plus homescreen widgets and a fairly simple live wallpaper.
Gaming is not that great, emulators run fine but games like NOVA 3 and Asphalt 7 are choppy.
Ive checked CPU-Z and my CPU usage keeps jumping from around 10% to 100% so I guess I have a problem.
I know I could just uninstall a load of stuff and get rid of a lot of my customisations, which Im sure would help, but while Im on this I may as well get the best ROM I can for gaming.
Ive read stuff about CPU and GPU throttling and undervoltage setting etc, and to be honest I dont really want to go messing around too much.
Is there are ROM that has been optimised for gaming? Or should I revert back to stock? Or stick with PA and clean out all the crap?
Please help, I just got myself a MOGA PRO and its excellent, but choppy frame rates in most games are a real pain!
Thanks
Nat.
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Ever tried Trinity kernel?
No I haven't.
I would recommend faux or trinity, like above. Battery life sucks on heavy gaming though.
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OK cool thanks guys I'm going to try a different kernel then.
What about my cpuz readings though? Is it normal for my cpu to keep jumping around even when idle?
i think CM is very good
Threre is no such thing as a best Rom, try some and see which best suites your needs.
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Hello there, community!
This is my first post on xda forums and I will try to make it quick.
I'm looking for a fast ROM that will run smoothly sacrificing more unneeded features and options. I found stock 4.0.3 rom stuttering and lagging from time to time, even in Contacts section.
With no work in the background, my LG has around 80-100 RAM left, which I'd like to increase. I also plan on running some more advanced 3d games, so a little overclock would also be nice - I know this CPU is already oc'd from 800 to 1000 mhz but maybe it's worth trying to push it a bit more and take the weight off by disabling CPU rendering in favor of the GPU (I mean this great performance boost everyone is talking about when you force GPU rendering). If it works the way I think and with the GPU taking care of all the rendering, maybe processor won't heat so much and could be overclocked above 1 Ghz. What do you guys think?
In short, I'm looking for a fast ROM with a gaming and overclocking potential. Thanks in advance for the replies!
I use Slimbean 4.1.2 and it's really smooth and fast!
It's also perfect for my gaming needs but I don't really know what games you're after though!
Give it a try, you will certainly like it!
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Well, I'm looking for overall better performance. For example on this stock rom, in the game Galaxy on Fire sound and interface lags etc. I found it odd that some simple games like Jetpack Joyride often stutter during gameplay, but Rayman Jungle Run with much better sound and graphics runs smoothly.
I'll check the rom you mentioned. Any more sugestions?
You should give a try to PAC ROM 4.3.Even it has some bugs,I found it smoother than I thought.After it will become stable,it will be one of the best or even the best ROM as performances.
This is such a unique advice given it's a micro console, insofar as when compared to other android devices.
But to maximize gaming performance, would there be a benefit of installing a custom rom?
Quick questions:
1) Like most android devices, does anyone know if this device comes under clocked (in the factory default sense)?
2) Would over clocking this device yield any benefits? hoping it would help smooth out N64 and PSX emulation.
3) Would it be wiser to just stick with the MOJO OS and just wait until an official update (kitkat) to root it? to install the over clocking apps, etc.
4) Is an update actually coming or is this wishful thinking on our parts?lol
Seems like there are so many possibilities for this neat little console. Hoping this device isn't too DOA given that they've priced themselves out of the market and the OUYA craze (whatever little fad it was) seems to be fading fast.
1. There are almost always benefits to custom ROMs....They usually are built for performance, and custom kernels make the world go 'round.
2. There is no problem with PSX emulation (FPSE is perfect on every game I've tried), and the problem with N64 emulation comes down to optimizing the app for the hardware....So I don't think overclocking would solve anything with N64. N64 games run the same on my old Tegra 2 as they do on my Tegra 3 as they do on my MOJO. It's not a fault of the hardware being inadequate.
3. Why wait for an update to root? There's always the chance you would lose root when updating, but there's an equal chance that you wouldn't be able to re-root after the update.
4. I imagine there will be at least one major update to KitKat...Possibly in Q2 or Q3.
For obvious reasons I can't talk to question 2 other than to strongly recommend that you don't overclock - indeed, it's worth repeating here that of course rooting your device does invalidate your warranty. Unlike a lot of Android devices which have battery performance to worry about, M.O.J.O. is not underclocked at all - as we're purely running from the mains there's no reason to do so and there's a massive heatsink in there to prevent thermal issues resulting in reduced performance too.
We are looking to provide an update to KitKat but we'll update on that as and when it's closer to realisation.
Things, you can do now to boost performance is, to set the governor from "interactive" to "performance" and set the min clock speed to 1800 MHz.
Brings some nice boost in benchmarks, but can't really say, that you get a real benefit in gaming.
I believe, that custom kernels and ROMs are not as easy as we think. You see, that even with the fastboot root method, there is no other way to reboot, as to unplug the cables.
So, that means, if I'm not wrong, that you can't temporarily boot/test custom kernels or recoveries.
But maybe someone will find a solution for this...
So for the newbies (I have been modding Androids for a years now):
What's the set-up you have found to work best? Are there any issues with it?
Here's mine:
Cyanogen 10 (ROM)
KTManta with kttweaker app(kernel)
interactive CPU: 2100/200 GPU:720/100 (Governor)
FIOPs(scheduler)
Notes:I also gave a five volt boost to the CPU steps (but I would do this last thing and only if you need it). Advice from Omnislyfer: I would like to tell you is about the overheat of you device. Our exynos processor it's great, but it has got some problems with temp at higher frequencies. You have overclocked a lot your device, and I think it's an insane thing to do. The main goal of voltage settings are to undervolt the device at stock frequencies, in order to reduce the overheating effects. You have done exactly the opposite: you have OC your device and also you have rises the voltages. So thrust me: from Ktweaker app, load default settings (so max CPU free will be 1700, and 533 for gpu), then subtract at least -50mv to all CPU voltages and -25 gpu voltages. You will not see particular performance loss (our n10 rly doesn't need Overclock) and hoverheat problems will disappear. Thanks Omni, I currently am testing this. Edit: Tested and this is great advice for this kernel. There is still heat issues for cpu intensive apps, but they are slower to manifest. Straight GPU functions (MX player -HW+) do not seem to need the undervolting and may be able to be ramped up. I did not test with any intensive games as it is hard to seperate the processors.
Video player (this is important for Nexus 10's):
MX Player with the custom codec properly installed (it occasionally (1/100 hours) drops the app when streaming video (twitch), but re-opens easily.
Comments to the community: I agree that people should try out everything. However, I recently had to re-root an old phone and run back through a lot of threads to find a stable set-up. This was to even see if I had rooted correctly. On the Nexus 10, the base Cyanogen 10 kernel kind of blows and my device was all sorts of buggy. The purpose of this is to help new modders and share some knowledge about stable set-ups with each other.
I've ran the gambit of custom ROMs through various versions of Android swearing by one over another but in the end I returned to rooted stock, Franco kernel, XPosed framework with Gravity box. Stability is my driving force and that just seems the most stable without loosing features such as the immersion UI.
Must have apps:
SuperSU
Viper4android
LMT
Nova launcher
Neutron
MX Player
For me other apps fall off in importance but those are the ones I'm taking to a deserted Island.
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And this is my config:
-Purity ROM - - > clean, stable and fast;
-Trinity Kernel - - > extreamly fast, but it leaks some feature (there is No Undervolt);
-ART runtime! - - > you have no idea of the advantages. Everything is faster and great battery life improvements.
About the apps :
-SuperSu;
-Nova launcher;
-Trinity Kernel Toolbox;
-MusicFX
Hi,
First I think you should give a look at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2725128. Many people are sharing their configurations there, it may help you .
For me, I'm using CM11, no additional tweaks for kernel or anything else, just CM11 was good enough for me. I can play Dead Trigger 2 without frame drops, listen to FLAC audio in Poweramp without issues and watch heavy videos on MX Player.
Also boot time is ≈20 seconds, so I found this to be my favorite setup .
~Lord
"Time is too short to cry, long enough to try." - March of Time (Helloween)
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Hi guys
Who has his device overlclocked? I installed on my N5X the TWRP and the ElementalX kernel (no root) due to the bad performance in trottling with stock kernel. In this moment I have a little overclock on the A53 cluster, I'm at 1536/1833 and it runs fine, I think that the critical point of the 808 is the A53 cluster, someone use it @ 1600MHz?
I'm looking to overclock it as well
Any ideas are welcome.
I think that overclocking the little cluster the device in little task may can use a little less the big cluster and save a little the battery Life. Antone tryed?
I know this thread is 2 years old, and I shouldn't be reviving it... I just had it. Current Nexus 5X with crDroid (which seem to be faster than stock Android) is performing like garbage. Battery and performance in general was greatly improved when I turned off background activity for a lot of 8.x unsupported apps (You can check them in the battery settings)... But it's just unbearable. Everything takes a long time to load.
I don't use anything fancy. Maps, YouTube, Chrome, WhatsApp, Keep, a couple applications now and there, and there's still free RAM. Since I've read that this one has the more powerful CPU turned off, except for demanding tasks as games, I thought some overclocking could make it work better. I'd like to push this boy as far as possible (I make myself proud when I do that), and I'm going to be overclocking it...