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10.1 WI-FI CM10 Lag in games.

Hello. i am using this rom on my p7510 for a few days now:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1864380
i have experienced not solid and very low frame rates like 15 fps in some games i played on it, including: Asphalt 7, Modern Combat 3, N.O.V.A 3, and The dark knight rises, and more. i tried overclocking my device to 1.4 ghz, yet improvement is minimal, and the framerate is still very low. the strange thing about it, is that my Samsung galaxy 959v cell phone, running AOKP milestone 6 CM9.1 ROM, runs the above games, much smoother. i would like to know, if the game running performance can be further improved on my tablet.
Thank you.

Change your CPU governor to Performance.
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ren2008 said:
Change your CPU governor to Performance.
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thx for the reply. it really did slightly improve the performance. yet there is still a noticeable diffrence between the tablet and phone, and it still is very choppy even after the overclock compared to the phone. please advise.

eleaor said:
thx for the reply. it really did slightly improve the performance. yet there is still a noticeable diffrence between the tablet and phone, and it still is very choppy even after the overclock compared to the phone. please advise.
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Which ROM are you running?
I am on stock no overclock or anything, just rooted and using Performance governor. I can play all theses games with very litttle choppiness. Not as smooth my Asus with the Tegra 3 but it's still very playable for a Tegra 2.

S3 odd finding or placebo?

So, trying to improve my battery life I set my CPU to dual core, and for some strange reason, everything runs smoother now, from the interface to games.
Specially Contract Killers 2 and Dark Knight Rises. This games were a pain to play since I kept getting terrible stutter and lag and could only get good steady smooth performance overclocked which pretty much beats the whole quadcore CPU on the S3 if my gf stock S2 can run all this better than my S3.
I'm running Wanamlite Jellybean deodexed DLJ2 rooted with Siyah Kernel. At the moment not overclocked.
Only reason I can come up with is that most apps are optimized for dualcore CPU's since quadcore is not yet the standard.
Has anyone experience something similar to this or wants to try this out?
BTW, battery life hasn't improved much.
Samsung sure made a coding mess with Jelly Bean.

How did you set the device to dual-core ?
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How did you set the device to dual-core ?
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Stweaks when your running Siyah kernel.
Also you can remove lag from some games if you go to developer options and check "force GPU rendering"

Cyclosporine said:
So, trying to improve my battery life I set my CPU to dual core, and for some strange reason, everything runs smoother now, from the interface to games.
Specially Contract Killers 2 and Dark Knight Rises. This games were a pain to play since I kept getting terrible stutter and lag and could only get good steady smooth performance overclocked which pretty much beats the whole quadcore CPU on the S3 if my gf stock S2 can run all this better than my S3.
I'm running Wanamlite Jellybean deodexed DLJ2 rooted with Siyah Kernel. At the moment not overclocked.
Only reason I can come up with is that most apps are optimized for dualcore CPU's since quadcore is not yet the standard.
Has anyone experience something similar to this or wants to try this out?
BTW, battery life hasn't improved much.
Samsung sure made a coding mess with Jelly Bean.
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I have been running Dual-Core mode as well for 2 weeks now, as far as I can see it's just as smooth as Quad Core mode. At least in the following:
-General UI (homescreen, scrolling trough settings)
-Whatsapp, Facebook, Other apps
-Simple games like Jetpack Joyride
I haven't tested heavy games though. Reptide GP is smooth, that's kind off a heavy game.
Battery wise I haven't noticed any big difference either between dual and quad core mode. But neither performance wise, which is weird since it makes the quad core processor seem useless.
Stock CPU & GPU frequency's, undervolted CPU -100mV and GPU -50mV.

Best rom for gaming?

I've been trying different Roms lately, such as cm10.1, slim bean, liquid smooth. They were all fine except liquid smooth. But I was just wondering in general, is there a ROM that enhances or makes gaming better on?

No. Your question is silly, it's like asking. What is the best operating system for gaming? Is it windows 7? Mac? Or Linux?
... What you're asking for are kernels, not roms. And there is no best rom or kernel. Just look around and try for yourself
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As zephix mentioned, you should be looking at kernels, not roms, to improve gaming performance. You would want to look into kernels that overclock the GPU by default, or give you the option to overclock it yourself. Compare the different kernels out there, matrix, faux, motley,harsh, etc and see which one benefits the GPU the most.
For example the Matrix kernel has a GPU overclocked version that boost the gpu up to 487mhz. This should help improve game performance but will also negatively affect battery life when gaming.

Trinity kernel, its the BOOM

Trinity kernel forces gpu over clocking all the time though, with no option to set it back.

You can try the RasBeanJelly ROM + Trinity kernel combo. RasBean has new bionic patches while Trinity bumps up GPU. I'm running that right now. There was a nice jump in my Antutu score (20,000+), but we all know benchmark numbers mean nothing.
Like zephiK and Raider said: it's up to you to try out a bunch of different ROMs/kernels and see which ones you like best. Since I'm answering, I say check out RasBeanJelly and Trinity.

Faux' kernel gives me quite good 3D performance.
franco r53 has quite bad 3D performance for me. r61 seems to be really good, but somehow uses more battery while gaming, at least for me.

Every ROM is okay, I play games with vsync off and 128mhz CPU and they run good. Dead trigger, most wanted, temple run 2, and riptide are smooth. Games that aren't tolerable are basically not optimized and most likely lag on every device it can run on. Long story short, every ROM is apt, the GPU is a beast and isn't necessary for things out now. And HD YouTube even works in this mode.
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All roms have bionic. Rom won't do anything to your game. Kernel probably won't either. Games on the stock nexus 4 run great. If it weren't for washed out colors I'd say kernels are a waste of time. But anyone saying that stock android on the nexus 4 is slow or unfit for gaming is a liar. Just stop worrying about this performance bs, enjoy your nexus.

[Q] Best ROM for gaming?

Hi
Im currently running Paranoid Android with Nova Launcher plus homescreen widgets and a fairly simple live wallpaper.
Gaming is not that great, emulators run fine but games like NOVA 3 and Asphalt 7 are choppy.
Ive checked CPU-Z and my CPU usage keeps jumping from around 10% to 100% so I guess I have a problem.
I know I could just uninstall a load of stuff and get rid of a lot of my customisations, which Im sure would help, but while Im on this I may as well get the best ROM I can for gaming.
Ive read stuff about CPU and GPU throttling and undervoltage setting etc, and to be honest I dont really want to go messing around too much.
Is there are ROM that has been optimised for gaming? Or should I revert back to stock? Or stick with PA and clean out all the crap?
Please help, I just got myself a MOGA PRO and its excellent, but choppy frame rates in most games are a real pain!
Thanks
Nat.

Traffik said:
Hi
Im currently running Paranoid Android with Nova Launcher plus homescreen widgets and a fairly simple live wallpaper.
Gaming is not that great, emulators run fine but games like NOVA 3 and Asphalt 7 are choppy.
Ive checked CPU-Z and my CPU usage keeps jumping from around 10% to 100% so I guess I have a problem.
I know I could just uninstall a load of stuff and get rid of a lot of my customisations, which Im sure would help, but while Im on this I may as well get the best ROM I can for gaming.
Ive read stuff about CPU and GPU throttling and undervoltage setting etc, and to be honest I dont really want to go messing around too much.
Is there are ROM that has been optimised for gaming? Or should I revert back to stock? Or stick with PA and clean out all the crap?
Please help, I just got myself a MOGA PRO and its excellent, but choppy frame rates in most games are a real pain!
Thanks
Nat.
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I would think that the kernel would have more importance in gaming performance than the rom itself, try FauxKernal/Matrix kernel which has slightly overclocked gpu

Traffik said:
Hi
Im currently running Paranoid Android with Nova Launcher plus homescreen widgets and a fairly simple live wallpaper.
Gaming is not that great, emulators run fine but games like NOVA 3 and Asphalt 7 are choppy.
Ive checked CPU-Z and my CPU usage keeps jumping from around 10% to 100% so I guess I have a problem.
I know I could just uninstall a load of stuff and get rid of a lot of my customisations, which Im sure would help, but while Im on this I may as well get the best ROM I can for gaming.
Ive read stuff about CPU and GPU throttling and undervoltage setting etc, and to be honest I dont really want to go messing around too much.
Is there are ROM that has been optimised for gaming? Or should I revert back to stock? Or stick with PA and clean out all the crap?
Please help, I just got myself a MOGA PRO and its excellent, but choppy frame rates in most games are a real pain!
Thanks
Nat.
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Ever tried Trinity kernel?

No I haven't.

I would recommend faux or trinity, like above. Battery life sucks on heavy gaming though.
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OK cool thanks guys I'm going to try a different kernel then.
What about my cpuz readings though? Is it normal for my cpu to keep jumping around even when idle?

i think CM is very good

Threre is no such thing as a best Rom, try some and see which best suites your needs.
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[Q] The best ROM for gaming

Hi guys,
first of all let me apologize for this stupid question. Personally I hate these questions too, but I have my device in service for 3 weeks, therefore I'm not able to continue with my research...
It's already a long time since I've bought my G2 (D802). Of course, the first thing what I've done > go to custom ROM ... (It's my habit since Xperia Arc S) I think that I was dissappointed of my new LG G2 even then. Games wasn't fluent and lagless as I supposed they should be. It was another good reason to go to the custom ROM. But unfortunatelly and surprisingly it was even worse. So I find another thing why is that so bad. In that time custom ROMS wasnť based on Kitkat sources (kernel), so I hoped that everything will be fine after developers merge source code. But the improvement has never become (in that form I hoped for) In that time I became reconciled that I will never play games on my G2 as smooth as on my iPad.
That's the reason why I'm looking for the best ROM for games. (I'm a heavy gamer)
So my question: Do you know any good rom for Gaming? Could you recommend me something?
I tried Mahdi. PA, Beanstalk, Slim ROM, CloudyStock, Pro, Flex, G3... But none of these ROMs is fine...
(I can't understand how can be Cloudy ROMs so popular (Nothing against Cloudyfa ) because they have too many lags in games !!! I think it's more laggier than stock...

DominikHolecek said:
Hi guys,
first of all let me apologize for this stupid question. Personally I hate these questions too, but I have my device in service for 3 weeks, therefore I'm not able to continue with my research...
It's already a long time since I've bought my G2 (D802). Of course, the first thing what I've done > go to custom ROM ... (It's my habit since Xperia Arc S) I think that I was dissappointed of my new LG G2 even then. Games wasn't fluent and lagless as I supposed they should be. It was another good reason to go to the custom ROM. But unfortunatelly and surprisingly it was even worse. So I find another thing why is that so bad. In that time custom ROMS wasnť based on Kitkat sources (kernel), so I hoped that everything will be fine after developers merge source code. But the improvement has never become (in that form I hoped for) In that time I became reconciled that I will never play games on my G2 as smooth as on my iPad.
That's the reason why I'm looking for the best ROM for games. (I'm a heavy gamer)
So my question: Do you know any good rom for Gaming? Could you recommend me something?
I tried Mahdi. PA, Beanstalk, Slim ROM, CloudyStock, Pro, Flex, G3... But none of these ROMs is fine...
(I can't understand how can be Cloudy ROMs so popular (Nothing against Cloudyfa ) because they have too many lags in games !!! I think it's more laggier than stock...
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What's the definition of "lagless" for you, and what games are you playing?
First of all, you have to realise and acknowledge that this is a smartphone. No matter what, it's still a phone and it's not made for heavy gaming. Second, you have to realise that despite the fact that many developers (ie Gameloft) has a lot of experience with games, they're too lazy too optimize them even for the most powerful chips out there. The games utilise 100% CPU speed even if they don't need it at all, and then the CPU throttles down because it's becoming too hot. Logic/10.
Thirdly, you have to realise that the ROM is not what makes the game fluid or lag-free. It's the kernel.
Since the G2 (like ALL other phones) is cooled passively (it has no fan whatsoever), it's important that it runs as cool as possible to prevent overheating and throttling.
My advice to you would be the following:
Install your favourite ROM and a kernel you can tweak heavily (gpu/cpu). A good bet would be dorimanx.
Go to kernel settings, and chance max frequency to 1.27 Ghz or around that. Change governor to performance.
Change GPU to 450 Mhz.
Try playing a game =)
I used to play Asphalt 8 back when I first got the phone and I got about 30 FPS? Anyway it was smooth as butter, and I see no real reason why you want to put a custom rom on your phone. The good 'ol days where nothing was better than custom roms are pretty much over. Stock is just fine, root it, use a custom kernel if neccessary and use xposed. Will solve it.

vPro97 said:
What's the definition of "lagless" for you, and what games are you playing?
First of all, you have to realise and acknowledge that this is a smartphone. No matter what, it's still a phone and it's not made for heavy gaming. Second, you have to realise that despite the fact that many developers (ie Gameloft) has a lot of experience with games, they're too lazy too optimize them even for the most powerful chips out there. The games utilise 100% CPU speed even if they don't need it at all, and then the CPU throttles down because it's becoming too hot. Logic/10.
Thirdly, you have to realise that the ROM is not what makes the game fluid or lag-free. It's the kernel.
Since the G2 (like ALL other phones) is cooled passively (it has no fan whatsoever), it's important that it runs as cool as possible to prevent overheating and throttling.
My advice to you would be the following:
Install your favourite ROM and a kernel you can tweak heavily (gpu/cpu). A good bet would be dorimanx.
Go to kernel settings, and chance max frequency to 1.27 Ghz or around that. Change governor to performance.
Change GPU to 450 Mhz.
Try playing a game =)
I used to play Asphalt 8 back when I first got the phone and I got about 30 FPS? Anyway it was smooth as butter, and I see no real reason why you want to put a custom rom on your phone. The good 'ol days where nothing was better than custom roms are pretty much over. Stock is just fine, root it, use a custom kernel if neccessary and use xposed. Will solve it.
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Of course that kernel is the most important thing in performance (because of sequencer laws, etc...), but nowadays we have no (except render) custom kernels for AOSP/ CM ROMs, so my question was focused on a ROM → I connected it to the whole... (And furthermore each ROM has own kernel. + ROM can cause lags as well)
used to play Asphalt 8 back when I first got the phone and I got about 30 FPS?
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Unfortunately these times are gone, at least I think it. There were lots of updates, which increase the performance consumption (Simply they add tons of new features and stuff, but they ,,forget" to optimize that... ) I played this game, Dead trigger 2, Dungeon Hunter 4 and even simple games like traffic racer with incredibly high count of lags (And it wasn't lags in miliseconds → not always). I thought it was because of my current ROM (Mahdi) so I tried PA and then stock based ROMs (CloudyFlex, Stock) but nearly no changes) Therefore I think it will be the same on stock ROMs too, if it's on Cloudy ROM with heavily optimized kernel, system... (Even Dorimanx kernel doesn't change anything).
Go to kernel settings, and chance max frequency to 1.27 Ghz or around that. Change governor to performance.
Change GPU to 450 Mhz
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Thanks for this tip, I tried something similar but with UC to 1,9 GHz and I didn't set governor to performance (My device was incredibly hot in a while with performance governor), I didn't notice any bigger changes - I expected that lower frequency will cause even more lags and I was obviously wrong. For sure I will try your advice.... :laugh:
The good 'ol days where nothing was better than custom roms are pretty much over. Stock is just fine, root it, use a custom kernel if neccessary and use xposed. Will solve it
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I don't like the LG's design of system, and I don't like xposed → it causes higher battery consumption and it ,,eats" RAM and performance (At least on my previous device )

i have 10 xposed modules installed and i didn't notice any additional battery decrease...
as for ram, as stated many times - free ram = wasted ram...
as for the thread - "what's the best this&that" threads aren't allowed on xda
i played rr3 and csr racing on this device and didn't notice anything wrong with the framerate (stock kk v20f, rooted with dorimanx kernel on default)

Oddly enough, I haven't noticed a major change in gaming performance coming from the S4 Pro. Asphalt 8 specifically is buggy, sluggish, etc on my LG OG & G2, but I don't care for android gaming since the apps aren't optimized (too many HW configs, whereas iOS is just SGX & Ax chips).
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First of all, I like to say that we lacked similar threads, so OP started an useful topic. I would have stayed with simple dual-core smartphone, but I bought G2 in November for a reason, to try new games and so on, I woudn't have bought it if I needed a phone only for texting and browsing, like many argue like this. What I observed is that, 2,3 Ghz for a phone with passive cooling is a nonsense because after few minutes of gaming it will keep running like 1,5 Ghz and lower, hell what's the use of those 4 cores if a device would burn out. I never owned an apple product, but on my colleague's 5S, they run very smooth and fast with same graphics on a dual-core, so it all goes to optimazing and not using these ridiculous frequencies. I was expecting a lot from a phone like that, sorry for a long post.