Hi
Im currently running Paranoid Android with Nova Launcher plus homescreen widgets and a fairly simple live wallpaper.
Gaming is not that great, emulators run fine but games like NOVA 3 and Asphalt 7 are choppy.
Ive checked CPU-Z and my CPU usage keeps jumping from around 10% to 100% so I guess I have a problem.
I know I could just uninstall a load of stuff and get rid of a lot of my customisations, which Im sure would help, but while Im on this I may as well get the best ROM I can for gaming.
Ive read stuff about CPU and GPU throttling and undervoltage setting etc, and to be honest I dont really want to go messing around too much.
Is there are ROM that has been optimised for gaming? Or should I revert back to stock? Or stick with PA and clean out all the crap?
Please help, I just got myself a MOGA PRO and its excellent, but choppy frame rates in most games are a real pain!
Thanks
Nat.
Traffik said:
Hi
Im currently running Paranoid Android with Nova Launcher plus homescreen widgets and a fairly simple live wallpaper.
Gaming is not that great, emulators run fine but games like NOVA 3 and Asphalt 7 are choppy.
Ive checked CPU-Z and my CPU usage keeps jumping from around 10% to 100% so I guess I have a problem.
I know I could just uninstall a load of stuff and get rid of a lot of my customisations, which Im sure would help, but while Im on this I may as well get the best ROM I can for gaming.
Ive read stuff about CPU and GPU throttling and undervoltage setting etc, and to be honest I dont really want to go messing around too much.
Is there are ROM that has been optimised for gaming? Or should I revert back to stock? Or stick with PA and clean out all the crap?
Please help, I just got myself a MOGA PRO and its excellent, but choppy frame rates in most games are a real pain!
Thanks
Nat.
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I would think that the kernel would have more importance in gaming performance than the rom itself, try FauxKernal/Matrix kernel which has slightly overclocked gpu
Traffik said:
Hi
Im currently running Paranoid Android with Nova Launcher plus homescreen widgets and a fairly simple live wallpaper.
Gaming is not that great, emulators run fine but games like NOVA 3 and Asphalt 7 are choppy.
Ive checked CPU-Z and my CPU usage keeps jumping from around 10% to 100% so I guess I have a problem.
I know I could just uninstall a load of stuff and get rid of a lot of my customisations, which Im sure would help, but while Im on this I may as well get the best ROM I can for gaming.
Ive read stuff about CPU and GPU throttling and undervoltage setting etc, and to be honest I dont really want to go messing around too much.
Is there are ROM that has been optimised for gaming? Or should I revert back to stock? Or stick with PA and clean out all the crap?
Please help, I just got myself a MOGA PRO and its excellent, but choppy frame rates in most games are a real pain!
Thanks
Nat.
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Ever tried Trinity kernel?
No I haven't.
I would recommend faux or trinity, like above. Battery life sucks on heavy gaming though.
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OK cool thanks guys I'm going to try a different kernel then.
What about my cpuz readings though? Is it normal for my cpu to keep jumping around even when idle?
i think CM is very good
Threre is no such thing as a best Rom, try some and see which best suites your needs.
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Hello,
I have bought my nexus 7 3G 32GB about one month ago.And tried to play many games,all games ran pretty smooth without lagg except these:
nova3,nfs:mw...Also I didnt get any special effects like fire on buildings in nova,however asphalt 7 ran very smooth no lagg at all,altough many people said that it's laggy.So how could i optimize my gaming performance?I've tried trinity kernel and m-kernel.OCed at 1.7ghz and 700mhz didnt helped in games... All what i felt performance increase was only in benchmark scores.Games ran almost same as before flashing kernels...What kernel should i use only for best performance ,i dont really care about battery.And what other optimizations should i do to get all these effects in games and reduce lag?
Hi man i played those games on my nexus but havent ur problem ...r u sure it is for ur kernel?
Yes.I'm sure.By the way you mean that you don't get any lagg on nova 3 or nfs mw?
I'm a Trinity fan, but on my 7 I actually found faux kernel to provide me the smoothest gameplay.I didn't start with much lag in the first place though, biggest thing for me is on dead trigger with graphics set to ultra high there would be a stutter at times when blasting zombies with my shotgun. I could just turn graphics down, but then the zombies don't get thrown backwards which looks cool.
Faux smoothed it out a bit, though I've never had a kernel make a significant difference on any device. NFS MW plays smooth for me, as it did with the stock kernel. Haven't downloaded nova 3 on the 7 yet.
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trinty is not that good, I use franco and games play withoud lag. When I played GTA Vice City with trinty kernel, my nexus got very hot and than shutted down. With franco it just stays pretty cool.
and however, try to play that same game with some different kernels (m-kernel or faux), or put the govenor to performance and than try it again (but that really sucks battery). it is strange, those games play smoothly on my nexus 7 with franco.
How about nova 3?Is it smooth on franco or faux kernels?
Nova 3 was poor for me too. Played better on my dual core EVO 3d....checkout this post for more discussion on it...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2085452
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Hello there, community!
This is my first post on xda forums and I will try to make it quick.
I'm looking for a fast ROM that will run smoothly sacrificing more unneeded features and options. I found stock 4.0.3 rom stuttering and lagging from time to time, even in Contacts section.
With no work in the background, my LG has around 80-100 RAM left, which I'd like to increase. I also plan on running some more advanced 3d games, so a little overclock would also be nice - I know this CPU is already oc'd from 800 to 1000 mhz but maybe it's worth trying to push it a bit more and take the weight off by disabling CPU rendering in favor of the GPU (I mean this great performance boost everyone is talking about when you force GPU rendering). If it works the way I think and with the GPU taking care of all the rendering, maybe processor won't heat so much and could be overclocked above 1 Ghz. What do you guys think?
In short, I'm looking for a fast ROM with a gaming and overclocking potential. Thanks in advance for the replies!
I use Slimbean 4.1.2 and it's really smooth and fast!
It's also perfect for my gaming needs but I don't really know what games you're after though!
Give it a try, you will certainly like it!
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Well, I'm looking for overall better performance. For example on this stock rom, in the game Galaxy on Fire sound and interface lags etc. I found it odd that some simple games like Jetpack Joyride often stutter during gameplay, but Rayman Jungle Run with much better sound and graphics runs smoothly.
I'll check the rom you mentioned. Any more sugestions?
You should give a try to PAC ROM 4.3.Even it has some bugs,I found it smoother than I thought.After it will become stable,it will be one of the best or even the best ROM as performances.
Just bought Asphalt 8, honestly expected it to run flawlessly on my Black GS4-i9500 but that was not the case. Installation was fine, but game is really laggy and the graphic is kind of messed up and unstable. It's like the graphic card is not powerful enough to run it at full speed. I'm playing on default settings and I made sure there is no other application running besides Airborne. My phone is a genuine one and have not rooted it. It's the same for Minion Rush and Asphalt 7.
What might be causing this problem according to you guys and is there any way to fix this?
Many thanks.
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Just bought Asphalt 8, honestly expected it to run flawlessly on my Black GS4-i9500 but that was not the case. Installation was fine, but game is really laggy and the graphic is kind of messed up and unstable. It's like the graphic card is not powerful enough to run it at full speed. I'm playing on default settings and I made sure there is no other application running besides Airborne. My phone is a genuine one and have not rooted it. It's the same for Minion Rush and Asphalt 7.
What might be causing this problem according to you guys and is there any way to fix this?
Many thanks.
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Had no lags like this on stock. Everything ran flawlessly.
but smearing issue bothered me so I rooted it and installed perseus kernel. Everything is fast as hell. And using wanam rom.
try a factory reset. Then update to latest ota. And test again.
There is no such thing called "lag" on my I9500, on GE Port or stock Touchwiz.
But yes, my phone is rooted and got swapped external to internal.
Probably there's something wrong in your beloved storage.
blowmrsky said:
Just bought Asphalt 8, honestly expected it to run flawlessly on my Black GS4-i9500 but that was not the case. Installation was fine, but game is really laggy and the graphic is kind of messed up and unstable. It's like the graphic card is not powerful enough to run it at full speed. I'm playing on default settings and I made sure there is no other application running besides Airborne. My phone is a genuine one and have not rooted it. It's the same for Minion Rush and Asphalt 7.
What might be causing this problem according to you guys and is there any way to fix this?
Many thanks.
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It is the way it is.
Forget these guys who says Asphalt 8 run flawlessly on I9500/I9505, it doesn't. Flawlessly is 60fps all the time. S4 can't deliver that.
It doesn't matter which ROM you are using, they do little to no help on GPU performance, unless when you are OCing the GPU.
Just make sure you don't have background apps running.
For Asphalt 8 on I9500 expect a frame rate on High Quality averaging on 30fps, with peaks on 40fps and dips on 15fps.
I9505 is a few frames worse.
If you really want have a gain on FPS, you should have root, be on Android 4.2 and change the resolution to let's say 720x1280.
got ard 30fps, can't say perfect but good enough to play. Anyway racing game don't require very high fps.
If you experience HEAVY LAG then something must be wrong.
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I am playing real racing on i9500 from past few days. and IT SUCKS. fone get stuck time to time while loading game. I have to reboot it again and again
Sorry I'm a little bit out of the main subject.
Is there any way to show FPS when gaming on android devices ? I looked in playstore and there's none.
To get back to the subject, you should see what's wrong with your phone .. Asphalt runs well on S4 as it's running on IPAD 4 (but the bigger screen makes it better experience really) .. S2 also runs it well with medium graphics.
I thought the 3d titles were a bit laggy or jerky but played on iPhone 5 and we're the same smaller screen was rubbish.
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3ayachi said:
Sorry I'm a little bit out of the main subject.
Is there any way to show FPS when gaming on android devices ? I looked in playstore and there's none.
To get back to the subject, you should see what's wrong with your phone .. Asphalt runs well on S4 as it's running on IPAD 4 (but the bigger screen makes it better experience really) .. S2 also runs it well with medium graphics.
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FPS Meter (root required)
It is paid though... It used to be cheaper, I paid U$ 1.00 (maybe I bought it on specials days, don't know...) but now it is around U$ 4.00.
It shows fps on screen. It affects the performance a little bit when active, something around 5%-10%.
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FPS Meter (root required)
It is paid though... It used to be cheaper, I paid U$ 1.00 (maybe I bought it on specials days, don't know...) but now it is around U$ 4.00.
It shows fps on screen. It affects the performance a little bit when active, something around 5%-10%.
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It effects much more than 5%-10%. It is taking down the FPS by about 10-15FPS!
I found no Lag yet on my phone. I've played and still playing Asphalt 8, Modern Combat 4, shadowgun:deadzone etc. and all run smooth.
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If you really want have a gain on FPS, you should have root, be on Android 4.2 and change the resolution to let's say 720x1280.
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Asphalt 8 is already runing at 720p.
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tollboy said:
I am playing real racing on i9500 from past few days. and IT SUCKS. fone get stuck time to time while loading game. I have to reboot it again and again
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I had the same problem with my S4, I noticed that it only happened when playing using the Bumper Cam view.
Since switching to the hood view its never frozen or stopped once.
been playing asphalt 8 for 2 weeks now, never had a problem.
I9500 - wanamlite 1.8 + adam kernel 2.2
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Asphalt 8 is already runing at 720p.
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Wow. All this time, I've been thinking that it is running at 1080. Are you sure its at 720? I mean have you tried to run the game at 720p and noticed any difference?
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Works fine for me. Never had a problem
Asphalt 8, NFS Mostwanted, Fifa 2014, GTA Vicecity, all running smoothly and lagfree on my I9500 on Omega rom V14 stock kernel
i have no problem in my i9500 and i9505 i am using wanam rom in both
Somethings weird on your phone... To everyone, the Adreno 320 and PowerVR SGX544 are pretty much the same in performance. On that note, I'm playing Asphalt 8 at around 40-50 FPS. No frame drops at all. Using a Canadian SGS4 so its a S600. Running Broodplanks Pure AOSP. Its most likely the best ROM for gaming. Gets 29000 in Antutu without any over clock.
I9500
here asphalt 8 is just fine..
around 40-55 fps. No overclock.
crash rom 8.8 stock mh1 kernel
Hi guys,
first of all let me apologize for this stupid question. Personally I hate these questions too, but I have my device in service for 3 weeks, therefore I'm not able to continue with my research...
It's already a long time since I've bought my G2 (D802). Of course, the first thing what I've done > go to custom ROM ... (It's my habit since Xperia Arc S) I think that I was dissappointed of my new LG G2 even then. Games wasn't fluent and lagless as I supposed they should be. It was another good reason to go to the custom ROM. But unfortunatelly and surprisingly it was even worse. So I find another thing why is that so bad. In that time custom ROMS wasnť based on Kitkat sources (kernel), so I hoped that everything will be fine after developers merge source code. But the improvement has never become (in that form I hoped for) In that time I became reconciled that I will never play games on my G2 as smooth as on my iPad.
That's the reason why I'm looking for the best ROM for games. (I'm a heavy gamer)
So my question: Do you know any good rom for Gaming? Could you recommend me something?
I tried Mahdi. PA, Beanstalk, Slim ROM, CloudyStock, Pro, Flex, G3... But none of these ROMs is fine...
(I can't understand how can be Cloudy ROMs so popular (Nothing against Cloudyfa ) because they have too many lags in games !!! I think it's more laggier than stock...
DominikHolecek said:
Hi guys,
first of all let me apologize for this stupid question. Personally I hate these questions too, but I have my device in service for 3 weeks, therefore I'm not able to continue with my research...
It's already a long time since I've bought my G2 (D802). Of course, the first thing what I've done > go to custom ROM ... (It's my habit since Xperia Arc S) I think that I was dissappointed of my new LG G2 even then. Games wasn't fluent and lagless as I supposed they should be. It was another good reason to go to the custom ROM. But unfortunatelly and surprisingly it was even worse. So I find another thing why is that so bad. In that time custom ROMS wasnť based on Kitkat sources (kernel), so I hoped that everything will be fine after developers merge source code. But the improvement has never become (in that form I hoped for) In that time I became reconciled that I will never play games on my G2 as smooth as on my iPad.
That's the reason why I'm looking for the best ROM for games. (I'm a heavy gamer)
So my question: Do you know any good rom for Gaming? Could you recommend me something?
I tried Mahdi. PA, Beanstalk, Slim ROM, CloudyStock, Pro, Flex, G3... But none of these ROMs is fine...
(I can't understand how can be Cloudy ROMs so popular (Nothing against Cloudyfa ) because they have too many lags in games !!! I think it's more laggier than stock...
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What's the definition of "lagless" for you, and what games are you playing?
First of all, you have to realise and acknowledge that this is a smartphone. No matter what, it's still a phone and it's not made for heavy gaming. Second, you have to realise that despite the fact that many developers (ie Gameloft) has a lot of experience with games, they're too lazy too optimize them even for the most powerful chips out there. The games utilise 100% CPU speed even if they don't need it at all, and then the CPU throttles down because it's becoming too hot. Logic/10.
Thirdly, you have to realise that the ROM is not what makes the game fluid or lag-free. It's the kernel.
Since the G2 (like ALL other phones) is cooled passively (it has no fan whatsoever), it's important that it runs as cool as possible to prevent overheating and throttling.
My advice to you would be the following:
Install your favourite ROM and a kernel you can tweak heavily (gpu/cpu). A good bet would be dorimanx.
Go to kernel settings, and chance max frequency to 1.27 Ghz or around that. Change governor to performance.
Change GPU to 450 Mhz.
Try playing a game =)
I used to play Asphalt 8 back when I first got the phone and I got about 30 FPS? Anyway it was smooth as butter, and I see no real reason why you want to put a custom rom on your phone. The good 'ol days where nothing was better than custom roms are pretty much over. Stock is just fine, root it, use a custom kernel if neccessary and use xposed. Will solve it.
vPro97 said:
What's the definition of "lagless" for you, and what games are you playing?
First of all, you have to realise and acknowledge that this is a smartphone. No matter what, it's still a phone and it's not made for heavy gaming. Second, you have to realise that despite the fact that many developers (ie Gameloft) has a lot of experience with games, they're too lazy too optimize them even for the most powerful chips out there. The games utilise 100% CPU speed even if they don't need it at all, and then the CPU throttles down because it's becoming too hot. Logic/10.
Thirdly, you have to realise that the ROM is not what makes the game fluid or lag-free. It's the kernel.
Since the G2 (like ALL other phones) is cooled passively (it has no fan whatsoever), it's important that it runs as cool as possible to prevent overheating and throttling.
My advice to you would be the following:
Install your favourite ROM and a kernel you can tweak heavily (gpu/cpu). A good bet would be dorimanx.
Go to kernel settings, and chance max frequency to 1.27 Ghz or around that. Change governor to performance.
Change GPU to 450 Mhz.
Try playing a game =)
I used to play Asphalt 8 back when I first got the phone and I got about 30 FPS? Anyway it was smooth as butter, and I see no real reason why you want to put a custom rom on your phone. The good 'ol days where nothing was better than custom roms are pretty much over. Stock is just fine, root it, use a custom kernel if neccessary and use xposed. Will solve it.
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Of course that kernel is the most important thing in performance (because of sequencer laws, etc...), but nowadays we have no (except render) custom kernels for AOSP/ CM ROMs, so my question was focused on a ROM → I connected it to the whole... (And furthermore each ROM has own kernel. + ROM can cause lags as well)
used to play Asphalt 8 back when I first got the phone and I got about 30 FPS?
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Unfortunately these times are gone, at least I think it. There were lots of updates, which increase the performance consumption (Simply they add tons of new features and stuff, but they ,,forget" to optimize that... ) I played this game, Dead trigger 2, Dungeon Hunter 4 and even simple games like traffic racer with incredibly high count of lags (And it wasn't lags in miliseconds → not always). I thought it was because of my current ROM (Mahdi) so I tried PA and then stock based ROMs (CloudyFlex, Stock) but nearly no changes) Therefore I think it will be the same on stock ROMs too, if it's on Cloudy ROM with heavily optimized kernel, system... (Even Dorimanx kernel doesn't change anything).
Go to kernel settings, and chance max frequency to 1.27 Ghz or around that. Change governor to performance.
Change GPU to 450 Mhz
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Thanks for this tip, I tried something similar but with UC to 1,9 GHz and I didn't set governor to performance (My device was incredibly hot in a while with performance governor), I didn't notice any bigger changes - I expected that lower frequency will cause even more lags and I was obviously wrong. For sure I will try your advice.... :laugh:
The good 'ol days where nothing was better than custom roms are pretty much over. Stock is just fine, root it, use a custom kernel if neccessary and use xposed. Will solve it
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I don't like the LG's design of system, and I don't like xposed → it causes higher battery consumption and it ,,eats" RAM and performance (At least on my previous device )
i have 10 xposed modules installed and i didn't notice any additional battery decrease...
as for ram, as stated many times - free ram = wasted ram...
as for the thread - "what's the best this&that" threads aren't allowed on xda
i played rr3 and csr racing on this device and didn't notice anything wrong with the framerate (stock kk v20f, rooted with dorimanx kernel on default)
Oddly enough, I haven't noticed a major change in gaming performance coming from the S4 Pro. Asphalt 8 specifically is buggy, sluggish, etc on my LG OG & G2, but I don't care for android gaming since the apps aren't optimized (too many HW configs, whereas iOS is just SGX & Ax chips).
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First of all, I like to say that we lacked similar threads, so OP started an useful topic. I would have stayed with simple dual-core smartphone, but I bought G2 in November for a reason, to try new games and so on, I woudn't have bought it if I needed a phone only for texting and browsing, like many argue like this. What I observed is that, 2,3 Ghz for a phone with passive cooling is a nonsense because after few minutes of gaming it will keep running like 1,5 Ghz and lower, hell what's the use of those 4 cores if a device would burn out. I never owned an apple product, but on my colleague's 5S, they run very smooth and fast with same graphics on a dual-core, so it all goes to optimazing and not using these ridiculous frequencies. I was expecting a lot from a phone like that, sorry for a long post.
Hi, how's everyone?
When i bought my nexus 4 before like 7 months it was pretty good, and can handle heavy games like modern combat 4 and Asphalt 8 in high graphics, Now i cant even enjoy playing those games because of frames lags and stuff.
Could you please tell me what i should do? I tried to flash factory image still didn't solve thus problem.
Running Purity ROM with Hells core Kernel #V56
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Led_ce4arab said:
Hi, how's everyone?
When i bought my nexus 4 before like 7 months it was pretty good, and can handle heavy games like modern combat 4 and Asphalt 8 in high graphics, Now i cant even enjoy playing those games because of frames lags and stuff.
Could you please tell me what i should do? I tried to flash factory image still didn't solve thus problem.
Running Purity ROM with Hells core Kernel #V56
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A different ROM won't make any difference, unless it has its own kernel with some performance tweaks. Set CPU to On Demand, and GPU to Performance. Might make a difference. You could try a kernel with overclock, like AK, but you should make increases incrementally and keep an eye (or hand) on possible overheating.
If you were able to run things before, but now things are lagging with the same settings, It'll be because you've got extra crap running the background hogging resources.
I think Hells Core b57 can help u, dude. I tested this kernel w/ some heavy games and it did very well :3. But, play so many heavy games w/ that kernel can make ur battery drain very fast w/ b57 version include ur phone will be heat up @@
Led_ce4arab said:
Hi, how's everyone?
When i bought my nexus 4 before like 7 months it was pretty good, and can handle heavy games like modern combat 4 and Asphalt 8 in high graphics, Now i cant even enjoy playing those games because of frames lags and stuff.
Could you please tell me what i should do? I tried to flash factory image still didn't solve thus problem.
Running Purity ROM with Hells core Kernel #V56
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PARANOID ANDROID or CYANOGENMOD.
You can't go wrong with either of these ROMS
Plus you can download Franco's kernel for PA.
Under the CPU governer choose performance. This will cause all your cores to run at 1.5ghz regardless of the load on your system. Hence maximizing performance
There's a temperature throttling option in Franco kernel.
Google sets its GPU throttling at 37 Celcius. So when your phone heats up, the performance decreases.
You can actually override this default temperature so you'll get a better performance in the LONGER RUN.
Just don't crank it up too high. We don't want your phone to be extra hot.
But 37 degrees celcius is way too low when compared to other phone GPU throttling temperature.
Thanks everyone!
That really helped me.
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