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I just wonder how many of the negative stories are really true or real issues or just posts from flamers trying to discredit the Nexus 7. I have had my unit for almost 2 weeks and fail to find any of the problems listed. Too bad there is really no way to find out if these people (posters) really own the Nexus 7 or not. Totally enjoying my Nexus 7 and sorry to report the tablet is almost as perfect as an Android tablet can be for the PRICE.
How do we know you really have one and aren't just trying to balance the narrative? Exactly. There is no way to "know". Either you believe the poster, or you don't. I personally will not tolerate any defects, which is why I haven't purchased one yet.
So most of the people that are reporting issues are doing so to bash the device or are trolling? Because your device doesn't have a flaw....
Lay off the kool aid. The devices had problems.
I find my Nexus 7 perfect for my needs.
As an ex-iOS and general Apple fanboy I decided to buy a Galaxy S3 and more recently a Nexus 7. Admittedly the 'immediate' user experience is not as polished as iOS but after using both devices I have to say I prefer the ecosystem of Android.
Anyway, back to the question; yes, my Nexus 7 is great. To be honest my screen does also suffer, like many others, from being a little loose. But it is hardly noticeable and doesn't bother me.
Only issue I have is touchscreen problem sometimes. Putting the device to sleep and then waking it up again (with power button) solves it though.
Still, at times it gets annoying.
Zero issues with mine aside from the seemingly undersaturated colors, quite happy with it overall.
As a GNote user I'm really tempted by the Note 10.1 but I can't see myself finding the 10" as convenient as the 7" for my needs.
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Yes, my Nexus 7, seems fine, certainly haven't discoverd any defects yet, sometimes, it seems WiFi sort of frezzes, then will start again, probably nothing, as, my Sony S tablet did it, only a lot worse, a lot worse!
I certainly prefer it to my now sold Sony S tablet, OK no LED indication, one speaker, limited to 16Gb, no SD slot, but, its smooth, just the right size to hold in one hand, and, no judder at all, and, for the price, excellent (so far!)
Happy bunny with the Nexus 7 here....................
No problems with Nexus 7
I have now had mine for a week, and it seems free of fault. No dead pixels, nothing loose. Screen brightness OK, sound loud enough for me. For the money (£199 from PC World) and given the limitations imposed by Google (no front camera, speakers on the back, no flash in Jelly Bean) it does what it is supposed to do very well. If it would tether to my phone, I would be very happy indeed.
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I have had mine for three weeks and everything is working as advertised. Very satisfied.
I have had 2 Nexus 7's for 3 weeks and absolutely zero problems. Had a TF101 and I find this size a perfect gaming tablet compared to a 10 inch.
Had mine since Saturday and can't really complain. I've owned 5 other Android tablets and 8 different Android phones. I'm being utterly honest when I say that this thing has the worst build quality that I've ever seen. Yes I'm talking about the screen lifting. While its actually quite minor it severely detracts from what is otherwise an amazing device especially for the dollars. It makes the nexus 7 feel like a freely piece of crap. The worst thing about it is that it would be quite easy to fix the defect. Hopefully future production runs will sort it out.
Other than that annoying issue, which doesn't actually annoy me that much, I love this device to pieces. Its fast, has a nice display, is very portable, and it's a nexus device so it gets updates super quick and of course is shaping up to have an awesome development community.
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I love mine and haven't had any issues since receiving it. I couldn't of imagined it being any better than it is. I do understand why people have gotten frustrated with defective devices cuz I would have too...
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The only problem i have with the N7 is getting it off the kids
Same here, 3 weeks with my N7 and its perfect, yesterday I rebooted for the fisrt time just for testing.. and keeps running great!
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Got the 8gb as the 16gb was sold out wish I would of held out for the 16gb so I could import my music and maybe have a few large memory games on device
have c60K no problems at all, no screen lift, wasnt sure about the screen flickering, i didnt notice anything but I got the Lux app just in case
I had a SGT7 prior to the Nexus 7. I kinda miss the rear camera, and the ability to use a SD card (although to be fair, I never really came close to filling 16GB, but I have a 8GB N7), but overall I'm pretty happy with it
My device came with no flaws also it would seem.
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I just wonder how many of the negative stories are really true or real issues or just posts from flamers trying to discredit the Nexus 7. I have had my unit for almost 2 weeks and fail to find any of the problems listed. Too bad there is really no way to find out if these people (posters) really own the Nexus 7 or not.
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I've had zero problems with mine, but accusing people who are reporting difficulties of trolling is really not constructive or in the spirit of xda.
I've also had zero problems with build quality or functionality. Just got the Moco case, which works great for me. I love the size. The easy to change font size and clarity of the Play Books screen is awesome.
Had mine about two weeks. Rooted and tested Stickmount. Tested mouse and keyboard via USB and Bluetooth.
I didn't like the size of the Ipad so I sold it and bought the N 7, and have had zero problems.
Satisfied .
I have a lot to learn about Android..!
New to the forums, looking to by my first tablet. Not really interested in the ipad 3. I want a tablet which will be good for watching videos and playing a bit of games, also want a good web browser. Which tablet will be ideal out of these 3? My budget is $500, so the price factor doesnt really matter. Neither the s pen or the keyboard dock appeal to me. Thanks!
The Infinity would be the worst drain of money you could even consider. For its price, the hardware is underpowered - typing on it right now, Browser (stock, not Chrome - it's too slow to run Chrome smoothly) force closed (this is TF700 hate-post V2) and the keyboard froze for a good 10 sec when I got back in. Build quality and the like is down to chance, but even if you get a well-built one, the I/O sucks, Tegra 3 can't push 1080p without crying to its mother and to be honest, Asus' software updates are unreliable. The alarm clock's still broken from the one before last.
The Nexus 10, on the other hand, has the most powerful processor in any mobile device right now, and it is well-equipped to power the much, much higher resolution it has to offer. You can pretty much guarantee that it will provide you with the best Android has to offer on tablets both now and for a long time into the future. The Infinity is already obsolete.
Also, the Note's only real draw is the S Pen, though for some that is pretty significant (it's like a Wacom tablet computer). So if that isn't what you're after, save yourself some money and grab the Nexus 10.
The NEXUS hands down, 100%. It is the fastest Tab on the earth with the best screen of all. If only I did not buy a N7.
If I was looking to buy a 10in tab, then I would go for the nexus 10.
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The Infinity would be the worst drain of money you could even consider. For its price, the hardware is underpowered - typing on it right now, Browser (stock, not Chrome - it's too slow to run Chrome smoothly) force closed (this is TF700 hate-post V2) and the keyboard froze for a good 10 sec when I got back in. Build quality and the like is down to chance, but even if you get a well-built one, the I/O sucks, Tegra 3 can't push 1080p without crying to its mother and to be honest, Asus' software updates are unreliable. The alarm clock's still broken from the one before last.
The Nexus 10, on the other hand, has the most powerful processor in any mobile device right now, and it is well-equipped to power the much, much higher resolution it has to offer. You can pretty much guarantee that it will provide you with the best Android has to offer on tablets both now and for a long time into the future. The Infinity is already obsolete.
Also, the Note's only real draw is the S Pen, though for some that is pretty significant (it's like a Wacom tablet computer). So if that isn't what you're after, save yourself some money and grab the Nexus 10.
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I'm still within my return period at Best Buy -- and will be bringing my Infinity and dock back, and getting a Nexus 10. Build quality for mine is fine -- actually very solid, nice form factor, superb battery and nice display. But it IS a bit laggy, and between ASUS and NVidia, there's way too much in the way of arcane routines to go through in order to unlock, root and safely flash it. Nexus 10 promises to be a much better experience in this respect. I'll be getting the 32GB N10.
If the Nexus 10 had 3G then I don't think I would hesitate to chose it, I have a nexus 7 and I'm thinking about giving it to my wife and getting a new Nexus 7 32GB+3G version, from the look of how the nexus 7 is going, I may just wait for the Nexus 10 in a few months when they bring out the 64GB+3G nexus 10 (although 32GB is probably more likely, I may just hold out for the 3G version)
Thanks for the input guys. Do you guys think the nexus 10 will get custom Rom like the cleanrom on the tf700, because I would like flash lol.
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Thanks for the input guys. Do you guys think the nexus 10 will get custom Rom like the cleanrom on the tf700, because I would like flash lol.
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are you serious? the pure Jelly bean is the best.. why would you want to replace it?
to your question, easy choice. nexus 10, of course. Im using a Note 10.1 and it sucks really bad.
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Thanks for the input guys. Do you guys think the nexus 10 will get custom Rom like the cleanrom on the tf700, because I would like flash lol.
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Nexii have classically been rom magnets, though there is always the danger that they've finally released enough to dilute this effect. Also important is the number of users, which is also correlated to the number of roms. The 10 inch android tablet is not proven (but this is probably its best chance).
CleanRom on the Infinity is an Asus ROM, trimmed lovingly. It's still a manufacturer ROM, though, and I would bet you 2 Nexus 10's that the Asus UI never makes it to the n10.
I returned my infinity for the reasons in post 2. I'm not bitter, I just think my $500 is better spent elsewhere when my phone is better than my tablet...
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Sorry for my horrible knowledge on the devices lol im new to all this, after all, I'm coming from an apple product. Will there still be a way to obtain flash on the n10?
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The NEXUS hands down, 100%. It is the fastest Tab on the earth with the best screen of all. If only I did not buy a N7.
If I was looking to buy a 10in tab, then I would go for the nexus 10.
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ya, till now the best u can say i guess :fingers-crossed:
Stock Infinity is a no no
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New to the forums, looking to by my first tablet. Not really interested in the ipad 3. I want a tablet which will be good for watching videos and playing a bit of games, also want a good web browser. Which tablet will be ideal out of these 3? My budget is $500, so the price factor doesnt really matter. Neither the s pen or the keyboard dock appeal to me. Thanks!
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It's not worth spending your money on TF700T because it lags crazy! I'm finally Unlocked (Clean rom 2.3) But what's the point? I just voided my warranty for a device that can't run smoothly without a Custom Rom. Get a device that actually runs smoothly without any type of tweaking.
My Infinity works great but It's not the same feeling like i had before i unlocked it (Fear of Bricking). I might even buy N10, Hopefully i don't get same experience i had on infinity.
Since that is cleared up, I would say Nexus 10 seems like a better deal in Hardware but If you want features like S-Pen and what not then Note is great. But at end of the day, you will be frustrated with slow OS than not having the features (S-Pen, Multiscreen)
Wait till there are couple of reviews for Nexus 10, I will not buy anything else until i see a video for it.
TF700T Disappointed me.
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It's not worth spending your money on TF700T because it lags crazy! I'm finally Unlocked (Clean rom 2.3) But what's the point? I just voided my warranty for a device that can't run smoothly without a Custom Rom. Get a device that actually runs smoothly without any type of tweaking.
My Infinity works great but It's not the same feeling like i had before i unlocked it (Fear of Bricking). I might even buy N10, Hopefully i don't get same experience i had on infinity.
Since that is cleared up, I would say Nexus 10 seems like a better deal in Hardware but If you want features like S-Pen and what not then Note is great. But at end of the day, you will be frustrated with slow OS than not having the features (S-Pen, Multiscreen)
Wait till there are couple of reviews for Nexus 10, I will not buy anything else until i see a video for it.
TF700T Disappointed me.
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Thanks, I guess I can wait a while and read some reviews
yea, if I were you I would avoid the TF700, especially if you don't want/need a keyboard dock.
It has a nice deisgn, and a great screen, but it is laggy as crap and I haven't rooted mine so the overall experience sucks.
On paper it's almost the perfect tablet. Unfortunately Asus really dropped the ball on this one.
I'm probably getting the Nexus 10. Then selling it if Asus makes a really nice Transformer replacement at CES. Or I'm switching to Windows 8. I have no idea what I want to do.
People , I was checking the App store , and found a good number of Apps supported for the tablet , Apple may boast a 275000 app selection , but many of them are just show off (like the brain explorer , titanic time) and so forth , they look good for a couple of weeks , until their charm fades away
The main ones are content comsumption apps , and the market has a handful of them (CNN , cnbc , even TV streams) Google docs on google drive is a charm to use.
PLus I wont be bogged down by itunes all the time ,
Nexus 10 is a definate buy if u r not in the apple ecosystem
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People , I was checking the App store , and found a good number of Apps supported for the tablet , Apple may boast a 275000 app selection , but many of them are just show off (like the brain explorer , titanic time) and so forth , they look good for a couple of weeks , until their charm fades away
The main ones are content comsumption apps , and the market has a handful of them (CNN , cnbc , even TV streams) Google docs on google drive is a charm to use.
PLus I wont be bogged down by itunes all the time ,
Nexus 10 is a definate buy if u r not in the apple ecosystem
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Mm. One of my key reasons for not buying anything Apple is to use one to its fullest, you need the whole iRange, and Mac has the disadvantage vs Windows when it comes to ecosystem (especially games) so I don't really want to.
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Mm. One of my key reasons for not buying anything Apple is to use one to its fullest, you need the whole iRange, and Mac has the disadvantage vs Windows when it comes to ecosystem (especially games) so I don't really want to.
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If you want a Mac and don't hate your money:
Buy a wicked Windows PC/laptop for 1/3 the price of a mac with comparable hardware
Do this
Use in full screen mode
Profit
To those who are saying the Note 10.1 and the Transformer Infinity are ****ty tablets, how could you possibly think that? Have you never used a Coby tablet running GB?
To answer the OPs question, don't buy a tablet at all. Tablets are transitional technology, they won't be around forever and the ones that are brand new depreciate in six months and become totally outdated in a year. Even if tablets weren't a completely pointless waste of money, even if you could find some productive use for it that would make it practical for you to own one, no matter what tablet you buy it will be totally outdated in a year. So I say spend your money on something else.
After having all three, I'm holding on to my Nexus 10. The my experience with the ASUS TF700 was frustrating, and after multiple returns for a variety of issues I got a "good" one. Stock it's a frustrating experience, and making the necessary modifications voids your warranty.
The Note was a great tablet, although I'm not a fan of TouchWiz it wasn't so bad. It stomped the TF700 in web browsing too. The S-Pen was a novelty for me though, so I figured I'd save some money.
The Nexus is a beast, no regrets.
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For your requirements, watching movies and playing games, I'd recommend:
1) Galaxy Note 10.1
The CPU/GPU and resolution are balanced right and all games are fast. Screen on battery life is consistently ~8 hours. Benefit is it's not just a consumption device but also creativity and productivity with pen for drawing, paperless note taking, etc. Price was dropped to $499 for 32GB version to compete with Nexus 10.
2) Nexus 10
Has potential but games need to be optimized for it and the ridiculously high resolution. Battery life, sound quality and screen quality are behind Galaxy Note 10.1. It's a brand new device so there are minor issues that need to be addressed with the upcoming OS updates.
Skip the Tegra3 Infinity. When looking at Google Play comments for games I always see people reporting performance and games not working on TF201/300/700 devices while it's fine on other devices. I had the Nexus 7 and some games like Nova 3, etc. are laggy while fine on the other devices.
Another option unless you're anxious to get something now is to wait closer to Christmas and hope for new devices to appear. A Galaxy Note 12" 1080p with 4-core Exynos 5450, 4GB DRAM, etc. would be ideal.
I have looked at the specs and it seems the Amazon Kindle HDX 7" is as good or better on paper than the Nexus 7 2013. I also presume it does not suffer from the screen touch issues that the Nexus suffers from.
Are there any distinguishing differences between the two devices that make one better than the other?
For one I wouldn't want to run that whacky Amazon OS
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For one I wouldn't want to run that whacky Amazon OS
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I quite agree. The Kindle fire HD does have good specs, but the nexus comes about as stock as you can get and you can't really put a price on that.
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I quite agree. The Kindle fire HD does have good specs, but the nexus comes about as stock as you can get and you can't really put a price on that.
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I am new to all this, but is it not possible to get rid of the stock ROM and install CM on the Kindle and then we do not have to worry about the Amazon OS anymore and all we have left to compare is specs and quality ?
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I am new to all this, but is it not possible to get rid of the stock ROM and install CM on the Kindle and then we do not have to worry about the Amazon OS anymore and all we have left to compare is specs and quality ?
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Yeah absolutely, or Xposed.
I'm looking at the two side by side on GSM Arena (www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idphone1=5727&idphone25600) and in realism there isn't much in it; Snapdragon 800 / S4 Pro, 0.5GHz on the clock speed, Andreno 330 / Andreno 320. On paper I don't think there's much difference in them at all, you're right .
I would wager the deveoplement support for the Nexus is going to be a bit better, as the Nexus really is a development platform so to speak. So the ROM/Xposed module/Kernel /modding releases are going to me be more think and fast. But that's about all I can see.
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Yeah absolutely, or Xposed.
I'm looking at the two side by side on GSM Arena (www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idphone1=5727&idphone25600) and in realism there isn't much in it; Snapdragon 800 / S4 Pro, 0.5GHz on the clock speed, Andreno 330 / Andreno 320. On paper I don't think there's much difference in them at all, you're right .
I would wager the deveoplement support for the Nexus is going to be a bit better, as the Nexus really is a development platform so to speak. So the ROM/Xposed module/Kernel /modding releases are going to me be more think and fast. But that's about all I can see.
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Actually the Kindle's CPU is well faster, from 1.5GHz to 2.2GHz that is a 47% improvement.
The Nexus 7 has screen issues - thousands of posts on that. I had thought my Nexus was OK because I only bought it a few weeks ago, but I did the test today and mine also misses touches. I am not really planning to play games with it, but I am thinking why bother with a problematic device.
[QUOT=Zilliman;49158138]Actually the Kindle's CPU is well faster, from 1.5GHz to 2.2GHz that is a 47% improvement.
The Nexus screen issues - thousands of posts on that. I had thought my Nexus was OK because I only boKindle t a few weeks ago, but I did the test today and mine also misses touches. I am not really planning to play games with it, but I am thinking why bother with a problematic device.[/QUOTE]
Yeah I got my numbers mixed up, it is a 0.7 GHz hike, not 0.5.
Well I don't think it fair to call the Nexus 7 a problematic device as there are millions of units that have not suffered any problems. And though mine misses the odd touch in landscape view its fine otherwise.
The Kindle fire XHD does look very good on paper, but there may be hidden issues with that too. I'd like to try one out though.
I previously owned a kindle fire hd and boy was it a pain in the butt. Having to install a second bootloader to get a custom recovery was a hassle. Development wouldn't have been possible without Hashcode's work. Though once you get through all that, it really is a nifty device.
Now I'm not sure if the HDX is any easier to tinker with, but nothing beats the ease of rooting and flashing on a Nexus device.
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... but nothing beats the ease of rooting and flashing on a Nexus device.
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For most people, myself included, that's case in point right there.
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Well I don't think it fair to call the Nexus 7 a problematic device. And though mine misses the odd touch in landscape view its fine otherwise.
Really? That is a definition of something that is problematic.
It is because of this acceptance of a known problem by so many users that makes Nexus feel it not necessary to correct it. I tried and returned 3 Units none of which of their screens responded even close to my original Nexus 7. Its too bad because other than that it had great potential.
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[QUOT=Zilliman;49158138]Actually the Kindle's CPU is well faster, from 1.5GHz to 2.2GHz that is a 47% improvement.
The Nexus screen issues - thousands of posts on that. I had thought my Nexus was OK because I only boKindle t a few weeks ago, but I did the test today and mine also misses touches. I am not really planning to play games with it, but I am thinking why bother with a problematic device.
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Yeah I got my numbers mixed up, it is a 0.7 GHz hike, not 0.5.
Well I don't think it fair to call the Nexus 7 a problematic device as there are millions of units that have not suffered any problems. And though mine misses the odd touch in landscape view its fine otherwise.
The Kindle fire XHD does look very good on paper, but there may be hidden issues with that too. I'd like to try one out though.[/QUOTE]
Does yours miss a touch if you are holding it in one hand? Apparently the problem only manifests itself if you are NOT holding it (some kind of earthing issue).
I prefer the slim shape of the Nexus 7 to the wider Kindle HDX that's for sure.
What I am currently p*ssed off about is the inability of the stupid Nexus to make phone calls. Really annoying.
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Well I don't think it fair to call the Nexus 7 a problematic device. And though mine misses the odd touch in landscape view its fine otherwise.
Really? That is a definition of something that is problematic.
It is because of this acceptance of a known problem by so many users that makes Nexus feel it not necessary to correct it. I tried and returned 3 Units none of which of their screens responded even close to my original Nexus 7. Its too bad because other than that it had great potential.
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Can you please tell me what exact tests did you run before you returned your devices? Was the tablet held in one hand or was it laying on a table? Did you try the three point touch at 90 degrees test or some other type of test ? For example if the tablet is resting on my lap there are no issues with the 3 point touch test and the device correctly registers 3 points, but as soon as I place it on the couch the problem is immediately obvious and at 90 degrees the device misses one point.
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Well I don't think it fair to call the Nexus 7 a problematic device. And though mine misses the odd touch in landscape view its fine otherwise.
Really? That is a definition of something that is problematic.
It is because of this acceptance of a known problem by so many users that makes Nexus feel it not necessary to correct it. I tried and returned 3 Units none of which of their screens responded even close to my original Nexus 7. Its too bad because other than that it had great potential.
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I doubt any Nexus owner necessarily "accepts" the screen issues, but many have certainly learned to live with the odd missed touch. This kind of thing can and does happen on many touchscreen devices, it happens from time to time on my Galaxy Note too. In fact it happens about as regularly as it does on the Nexus, which I would say is about once in every 70-100 touches I would guess. On my Nex it only happens when it is lying flat for some reason, the rest of the time it's touch perfect.
A problematic device to me is one that has no end of troubles, processor lag, screen issues, touch issues, charging issues, hardware and software faults. The Nexus has one or two rough edges, but on top of those it's a very capable little tablet.
I understand what you mean about the Nexus brand slipping because people are putting up with faults when they should be speaking out, but people are speaking out about the screen issues. The only thing we can do I hope that the manufactures listen and make the changes needed for the next one.
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purephysics
Well I don't think it fair to call the Nexus 7 a problematic device. And though mine misses the odd touch in landscape view its fine otherwise.
Really? That is a definition of something that is problematic.
It is because of this acceptance of a known problem by so many users that makes Nexus feel it not necessary to correct it. I tried and returned 3 Units none of which of their screens responded even close to my original Nexus 7. Its too bad because other than that it had great potential.
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I think its really unfortunate that some people won't buy this because other people are loudly complaining. I'm sure some people have legit problems but I also think others go out of their way to try to find problems. I don't think I've ever owned a PERFECT electronic device of any sort, even my Apple products have sometimes been less than perfect and they are the poster child for no issues.
If you have a tablet with problems and you don't notice the problems, doesn't that mean the problems don't exist?
Back on topic, I think if you want the latest updates it's a no brainer, go with Nexus. If you don't update and don't customize, well maybe go with the kindle?
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I don't think I've ever owned a PERFECT electronic device of any sort, even my Apple products have sometimes been less than perfect and they are the poster child for no issues.
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I quite agree, perfection in electronics is very often user defined. The Nexus to me isn't a perfect device, not because of the screen issues, but because of the lack of expandable storage. But I get over that with an OTG cable, so no sweat.
What qualifies as perfect to one person is terrible to another.
and back onto subject; the HDX sure looks like a fantastic device, but I'm more than happy with my Nexus 7 and even if I saw the HDX first I'm sure I would have still picked the Nexus. Specs on paper only mean so much.
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I quite agree, perfection in electronics is very often user defined. The Nexus to me isn't a perfect device, not because of the screen issues, but because of the lack of expandable storage. But I get over that with an OTG cable, so no sweat.
What qualifies as perfect to one person is terrible to another.
and back onto subject; the HDX sure looks like a fantastic device, but I'm more than happy with my Nexus 7 and even if I saw the HDX first I'm sure I would have still picked the Nexus. Specs on paper only mean so much.
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I think there are thousands of users with problem screens, and mine (which I very recently discovered suffers too) is not just a coincidence. I now believe the problem exists on all tablets regardless if the users have discovered it or not.
We also know that this only happens if the tablet is not held, is not resting on your lap and is not connected to USB. So there must be thousands of users that have not seen the problem because let's admit it, most of the times you'd be holding the tablet in your hands.
The more important fault is that the screen develops hairline cracks which disable touch in various areas completely! The only solution is to replace the screen/tablet. Judging from the reviews on Amazon, apparently the screen is very sensitive to knocks and to flexing, and develops these imperceptible cracks and touch stops working often without realising why.
In general I think the screen is too important a component to just ignore it.
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I'm sure some people have legit problems but I also think others go out of their way to try to find problems.
Back on topic, I think if you want the latest updates it's a no brainer, go with Nexus. If you don't update and don't customize, well maybe go with the kindle?
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Yes, people do have a legit problem and you don't have to go out of your way to find it, just attempt to use the device as it was intended.
For you to compare a lack of storage (which hopefully you were intelligent enough to notice when you purchased it) to a defective screen is complete Idiocracy.
Do I expect perfection? No. Do I expect the screen to respond at least as well as my first generation Nexus 7? Absolutely.
Back on topic: If you want a screen that responds like a Walmart $59 tablet its a no brainer get the Nexus.
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I recently received my Nexus 7 for Christmas. My only other tablet was a first generation Kindle Fire. I requested the Nexus 7 because of its Android updates, price, and specs. It offered me everything I was looking for and I did my research, trust me. I am not a specs fanatic by any means, but the Nexus 7 runs buttery smooth for everything I do. I couldn't be happier. I was not interested in another round of Amazon's version of Android. While the HDX may be a beast specs wise, I didn't want to put up the effort to root, unlock, and custom mod. I enjoy that to extent as my Kindle is currently running KitKat and finally working decent for its age, but I wanted a strong tablet without the hassle and the Nexus has brought that to me. And that's coming from an Amazon junkie. Absolutely love the Nexus.
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For what it's worth, I haven't been able to reproduce any of the touch issues that I've read other people complaining about, regardless of whether I'm actually holding the tablet or not. I have noticed that the touchscreen seems to be slightly less sensitive than the one on my first gen Nexus 7, but it's never been a problem for me in actual use.
YAMTT shows all 10 touch points while my N7 is laying on my bed, and I can draw basically perfect squares and circles, even with multiple fingers at once. I could just be lucky though.
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For me , the specs of the nexus 7 are fine for me. Everything I have used runs smoothly and for my uses (entertainment, and such) I do not need a faster spec device, since I do not game and dont demand a lot of CPU usage (if that makes sense). Also, one main reason I got the nexus 7 is for development because I love trying out different ROMs and just recently got into using different kernals. The development of any nonnexus device just can't compare to the development of a nexus device.
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Hello Friends,
From last few days I m researching for best tablet available to buy. I was thinking of buying Nexus 9 but after reading lot of reviews regarding light bleed and heat, I'm Confused whether to buy it or should I go with Nvidia Shield Tablet. Please share your knowledge and issues if you own one of them.
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Hello Friends,
From last few days I m researching for best tablet available to buy. I was thinking of buying Nexus 9 but after reading lot of reviews regarding light bleed and heat, I'm Confused whether to buy it or should I go with Nvidia Shield Tablet. Please share your knowledge and issues if you own one of them.
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My experience with the shield tablet has been cracking, case separation, weak wifi and battery drain while plugged in.
gD ™ said:
Hello Friends,
From last few days I m researching for best tablet available to buy. I was thinking of buying Nexus 9 but after reading lot of reviews regarding light bleed and heat, I'm Confused whether to buy it or should I go with Nvidia Shield Tablet. Please share your knowledge and issues if you own one of them.
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I too was set on the Nexus 9 originally, But after Issues with Amazon about my pre-order, and reading up on some first impression reviews. I decided to get the Shield Tablet and honestly, I don't regret it. I was set on that 4:3 aspect ratio but the 16:9 is just natural already, coming from having a kindle fire previously.. With the Lollipop update, man this thing flies. No lag, No crashes (yet). I got viper4android and modified the audio configs and the sounds is fantastic. And having an Sd Card slot makes it better.
Asus memo 181 8 it's your better buy
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The question is a no brainer.
Have the Lte version for 7 weeks now and no cracks, no case separation, build quality is perfect and no problems with Wifi and Lte.
Just works perfect and with Android 5L update it's even little faster.
Comparable Nexus 9 with Lte still is here in Europe € 165,00 more expensive and has no MicroSd slot.
But you have to make your own choice.
Do you had any lag or battery problem
no, I didn't and still don't.
Snah001 said:
The question is a no brainer.
Have the Lte version for 7 weeks now and no cracks, no case separation, build quality is perfect and no problems with Wifi and Lte.
Just works perfect and with Android 5L update it's even little faster.
Comparable Nexus 9 with Lte still is here in Europe € 165,00 more expensive and has no MicroSd slot.
But you have to make your own choice.
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Snah001 said:
no, I didn't and still don't.
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Ok. Thanks for this. Will consider shield or ipad mini retina
Save your money on the iPad and N9. I bought my WiFi version a couple weeks back and the only problem I had was that something borked my MicroSD during the 5.0 update. Aside from that this unit rocks and wouldn't give it up for anything.
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Are you also using shield tablet ?
I have a pile, and I mean a PILE of tablets, I'd take the nexus 9 over anything out today.
I gave up on the Nexus 9 and went back to the Shield Tablet (LTE).
Had planned on selling the Shield but in the end, I couldn't get over the build quality issues with the N9.
I tried to like it, I really wanted to, had been looking forward to it since it was announced. The first unit I received was ok for the most part, but then it just randomly crapped out. The replacement had horrific light bleed, something that usually doesn't bother me at all. In the end, it didn't make sense to give up LTE and expandable storage, while paying a $100 premium.
That said, I know Nvidia has had their share of build issues w/ the Shield Tablet, but I've been fortunate so far...and that's likely been the difference maker. I might consider an N9 again when the price drops (if nothing better is out), if I could get my hands on a decent unit.
I've also owned dang near every Asus/Samsung/Nexus tablet since the original Xoom.
They've all had their pros, cons, and quirks...but right now I'm most satisfied with the Shield...just my $0.02
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I have a pile, and I mean a PILE of tablets, I'd take the nexus 9 over anything out today.
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Have you tried the nst? Because the nexus9 does not compare. In my opinion, just like Apple products, a hype product but implemented poorly... Htc could have done so much better if they didn't target Ipad lovers. It's too expensive and it does next to nothing. The 4:3 ratio doesn't make sense. Lack of sd card slot is just a bad decision. Sorry, but i can't agree
Add me to the list of people who had their heart set on a Nexus 9 for weeks and ended up going with the Shield instead. The Shield is by far my favorite Android device of all that I have owned or used.
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Same, I'm Nexi guy for last three years only, I passed this year and went with team Shield. I'm quite happy with it, even with supposed issues as what device doesn't have them. But this with LTE an SD card ability wins.
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Shield tablet. Not only is it a better build quality, but it has expandable memory slot up to 128 GB, and it is cheaper. On top of that if you plan to do ANY type of gaming; the Shield will come out on top (especially with the insanely nice controller) . Nvidia is also very quick with pushing updates. Shield is also the only tablet besides the nexus devices that have lollipop . Oh yea... and it has a built in stylus with some pretty cool bundled stylus apps that utilize the K1 to its fullest!
As with most people here who were set on the N9 I went with the Sheild Tablet. I actually had a Galaxy Tab S 8.4" for a few months, both Tab S and Shield for a few weeks and now just the Shield
Few turn offs for N9, like most no expandable storage and being forced to shell out almost $500 for 32gb but a big downer too for me is I can't palm the N9 with 1 hand comfortably.
What sold me on Shield Tablet, SD card obviously, the pen is a neat bonus especially for Citrix my company uses, magnetic cover is bad ass, totally worth the $40, compact form, I can stick with Kitkat and xposed for multi window and other features (having Google Maps and Waze open in the same view is a must for me as I drive like 45k miles a year)
FWIW the Tab S 8.4" perks were IR blaster, very stable multi view, email client, AMOLED screen obviously, ridiculously thin and light. Downers were AMOLED's degrade over time, not the fastest thing out there, Google maps and Waze lag always.. not bad lag but just it's never smooth. AMOLED screen was the main deal breaker, I plan to keep this for 2-3 years. I just now upgraded from an original TF101
After using a Galaxy S2 abusively for two years, I still have no idea where the thing that AMOLEDs degrade over time comes from. It still looks embarrassingly good, especially in a dark room, even now.
If the Nexus 9 experience is anything like the Nexus 7, we aren't missing much. Except an extra preloaded app or four (Fitness, Docs, Sheets, Slides) to add to the growing repertoire of Apps So Good That Users Can't Be Trusted To Install Themselves on Nexus devices.
Despite the Shield's obviously inferior screen compared to the Tab S, I gotta say NVIDIA still made it look really good. Light leakage is only obvious when starting apps or the tablet with a black screen.
I still maintain that the Shield is the best tablet you can buy right now. I've had zero issues with mine, except occasional lag on Lollipop after heavy usage, and this is remedied (for me, at least) by opening recent apps and clearing out the ones I'm not using. I imagine it'll be fixed in due time, as Nvidia has been fantastic with updates (my girlfriend's Nexus 7 LTE is still on 4.4, for what it's worth...). I do have hairline cracks at three of four corners, but I'm not so petty as to let some heat expansions lead me to conclude it's not a fantastic tablet; the blemishes have no impact on performance, and a responsive interface is what was important to me.
As for the Nexus 9, I was worried that I was too impatient when I got the Shield as I knew the new Nexus was coming out soon, but after reading the reviews (most are underwhelming), I don't have any regrets. I also wanted a form factor that could fit in my back pocket (as does the Shield, even with the cover), and the Nexus couldn't.
As a slight disclaimer, the stylus was a major selling point for me--I use my tablet in meetings for taking notes, and don't want a bulky keyboard attachment. I'm also not a gamer, though I have spent far longer than I expected to using Nvidia's GRID service. If you don't care about the stylus (or would prefer the Nexus 9's keyboard folio), or you don't want to play games at all (warning: that was my stance before having this tablet), the Nexus 9 is probably an equally viable choice.
I wouldn't touch the N9 if you gave me one. Google gimped the drivers and removed desktop OpenGl, which completely nerfs the tablet's gaming and emulation capabilities. Plus the build issues like light bleed and the 32Gb cap with no sd card. While the K1 in the N9 is a bit faster on paper, the absence of desktop openGl completely counteracts that. Unless you are using your N9 purely for web browsing and productivity apps I see absolutely no reason to spend an extra $100
My nexus 9 recently started doing this...
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I've always had Nexus items.. First gen Nexus tablet, second, 3rd.. hell I have a nexus Q
So with this new issue I've run the gamut of Nexus 9 issues. Frisbee backplate, speed that, so you have a reference understandable to the human mind, ill describe as glacial. Charge to 100% eta. 2017. I got stuck on android 5.0.0 because.. who the hell knows. And now randomly my tablet has what I can only describe as seizures. HTC wants me to RMA it.. but you know what, I do not want to RMA it because then I'd be given another one and I would rather have the current one blow up in my face then to subject myself to the false hope of receiving a replacement and assuming, nay believing that all is well.
This is twice Nvidia has been contracted to put a processor in a Nexus and this is the second time the result has been total complete garbage. The entire Nexus9 experience has gotten me closer than I have ever been to buying an Ipad.. Google's and to an extent all Android tablet makers ability to get a tablet produced that even comes close to an Ipad in its ability to run the same way every day has been weighed and measured and found wanting.
The phones, which by all accounts are still their main focus have not suffered like the tablets so I will continue to enjoy them.
They seem to be unable to produce a table that is consistent or compelling and are thus going through the motions and just making a tablet because they have to.. So the Ipad decision is because quite frankly Apple does "going through the motions" better than Samsung/Google/HTC apparently can.
Maybe this will all change.. maybe it will not. At some point I will make the change these manufacturers will not. One thing I will not do is be suckered into a new tablet every 12 months.
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I'm not happy with my Nexus 9 either. It's lacking in both hardware and software.
Hardware:
- backlight bleeding
- too heavy
- flex in the back cover
- battery life is not that great
Software:
- random reboots / crashes
- RAM bug (causing chrome tab reloads for example)
- slow performance occasionally (probably caused by the RAM bug)
- software updates were rather slow for a Nexus device, we had to wait months for 5.1.1
I don't have any hope that Android M will fix any of the software problems. The Nexus 9 has been out for almost a year and there hasn't really been much improvement since the release.
I would like to buy an iPad mini 4 (never owned an iPhone or iPad, but I think there are no good Android tablets out there), the problem is that the Nexus 9 has a bad resell value (<250€) and the iPad mini 4 costs 389€ and I really don't feel like spending that much on a tablet again considering that I haven't even had the Nexus 9 for a year.
Asus zenpad 8.0 S. ... Love mine, sold my Nexus 9 to buy it. Super thin, great screen but get the CA version
I jumped on the bandwagon and bought the 32gb N9 from Google Play in December. After a month of use I felt it was an "okay" tablet. Last month I inherited an iPad Air 1st gen. The iPad gives a much more gratifying user experience.
I feel that Google really blew it with the N9, rushing to get a tablet out and winding up with a rush product at a premium price. I will be much more reluctant to go with another Google product in the future.
I don't know but I actually love my tablet... The biggest gripe I have with it is the tabs in Chrome refreshing, but besides that the tablet works great... There is a small light bleed but nothing as bad as my G3... Sorry to hear you guys had a bad batch, but what might have helped my tablet experience is that I rooted mine and running dirty unicorn...
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I don't know but I actually love my tablet... The biggest gripe I have with it is the tabs in Chrome refreshing, but besides that the tablet works great...
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Same here. And my N9 is bone stock.
hardware is fine, but the drivers running it are crap. stutters, background task getting killed, refresh on tabs when browsing, touching the screen ramps up the processors (it's why the browser uses more power than the screen, each touch takes a crap-ton of power. a few updates back fixed it to 1/2 but still is too much. lowering it to 800 and it stutters, my other tablets only ramp up to 300 with no stutter)... as crappy as samsung is with support i'd have gotten a better tablet sticking with them. i've tried four different roms with the same results and was on stock/rooted for the longest with fire-ice kernel.
I assume you've done a full wipe and ruled out it being a software bug?
If the company is offering to RMA a defective unit in favor of a non-defective one and you turn them down how is that Nexus/HTC/Android/whomever's fault other than your own?
Other than the backlight bleed I don't have too many issues with my Nexus. And that was purchasing a refurb scratch/dent 32gb model from Amazon Warehouse for $290. Is it what I'd expect for a $290 tablet? Absolutely.
I'd consider an iPad Air 2, but those guys are $600 and won't sync up quite the same as all my other crap. Or alternatively the Mini 4 ($500).
Mine is on Preview M unencrypted. I really like it. My 10 is a fine tablet, as well. The 7's I've had I've never really liked.
The apple tablets I've tried seem no different to me. I've even changed my Window animation scale 1, Transition animation scale 1 and Animator duration scale 1.5 and it acts just like an apple tablet.
The freeze on OP's video is caused by an undervolt-powersave thing. It has been reported many times and only an RMA can save you from that.
The RAM deficiency is caused by the one and only Chrome that consumes a ****load of ram on any platform. It fills my G3's 3 GBs of ram in just 5 tabs.
Just use another browser.
ive got a sluggish n9, backlight bleed and a few reboots. battery life is weak...
love aspect ratio though and still think this is still a good tablet overall...
There is no way anyone that is happy with this tablet uses multiple profiles on a regular basis.
If you fresh boot and sign into one user things are ok... not horrible or super fast but ok. Sign in to an additional profile and the tablet goes to complete hell. Stutters, stalls, crashes, etc.
Really sucks because its shared between myself and my girlfriend. This has been the case since 5.0.1 through 6.0 preview 3.
People are never happy with what they have. Yes the tablet has a few issue here and there. Very little consumer grade electronics are "perfect" there will always be something that bugs you.
I like this tab, took a little tweaking, as it usually does with any device to reach the standards of a "current XDA'r".
But at the very LEAST i would disagree with this being a tab to avoid.
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No offense but your optimism does not apply here. Get off the koolaid
osiris355 said:
No offense but your optimism does not apply here. Get off the koolaid
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The incredible pessimism doesn't apply here, nor belong, either. Get off the juice.
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The incredible pessimism doesn't apply here, nor belong, either. Get off the juice.
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His post is misleading and mine is not pessimism when its reality. Everyone knows this tablet has issues worse than typical bugs or hardware annoyances.
Edit: I just finished flashing 6.0. I can't believe I am saying this but it looks like google has finally fixed most of the performance issues. I can finally load up multiple profiles/chrome browsing and it doesn't start hanging/crashing. 1 year later and they finally got it right. Too bad it still heats up when gaming but that's not as big of a deal.
I love mine personally, there is a tiny hint of backlight bleeding but it's hardly noticeable. Battery life isn't that great, but that's the only downside for me. It always gets me through 2 days of use anyway since I have a phone for other functions. I also would gladly take a slight issue or two for the vastly superior sound setup for media consumption. Apple could maybe get my buck if they integrated FF speakers, and good ones at that. Until then the Nexus is the best for me. I was also thinking about the Asus 8.0 too, it looks good but it's too damned small. I actually think my Nexus is a bit small too, but it's the biggest and best tab I could get for under $300
I've had all sorts of issues with my Nexus 9. Software is better now than it used to be. But up until 5.1.1, multitasking made me want to kill kittens. It's more usable now with the latest 5.1.1 revision on the Pure Nexus ROM and Fire kernel. Except for Chrome, even XDA makes it choke. HD video performance is hit or miss, MX player with Tegra plug-ins was OK and other media apps stutter with high bit rates. I'm not on M now but when I tried it the battery life improved so there is that to look forward to.
The screen bleed on the bottom has gotten worse.
I learned my lesson and won't buy Nexus products again till they are on the market for a while and are thoroughly reviewed/patched.
Stock feels a little clunky on the Nexus 9. Installed CM and it feels much smoother. Overall, I am fairly pleased with mine.
Then again, I do not use Chrome, rather I use Firefox with Adblock+.
I have has both gen 7, and now the 9. I have also had iPads' and a Sony Tablet.
The 1st gen 7 was my favorite. Its form factor felt the best in my hand, the 2nd while faster was uncomfortable to hold. I'm not an Apple fan but work gave me an iPad 2. I rarely used it. Seemed okay. The Sony Z3 Tablet Compact has AMAZING quality. I just wish I could put AOSP on it, not a fan of the Sony tweaks, but over all its made from great materials and its very smooth to operate.
The 9 for me has been great so far. I did the following as soon as I got it, these are things I generally do to EVERY Android device when I get it.
* Change DPI to the screens native DPI (288 in this case)
* Added a line in build.prop to enable hardware UI rendering. <-- not sure if this is really needed anymore so I continue to add it until I'm told its not.
* Hard code the DNS used to the Google DNS servers
* Set all animation scales to .5
* Force GPU rendering to ON
I have never had any crashing or RAM management issues. I DO have the light bleeding issue, but not bad enough to really complain about.