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[Q] Is the nexus 7 really worth buying despite its flaws ??

Despite all the flaws (i think there are many including the screen lift dead pixel unresponsive touch screen)is it worth buying ? Am getting it from usa thru my friend to india but what if i have a problem with the device ? Cant replace it ! I fear that alot Pls help me in deciding to get one or not !
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1770919

I've read reviews that the device had issues with the screen lifting. I've had a couple tablets, nook color, nook tablet, kindle fire and I've tested out the new kindle fire HD. Out of all of them I LOVE the nexus 7 and none can touch the nexus 7 imo. I bought one last week and I haven't had any problems. Im sure other members will chime in about there opinions. I would buy it if i were you. I hope my comment helps
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Buy it. Test it in the shop. If not good ask for refund....
I love mine and I live in Europe. Bought in usa....

I don't think the newer models have as many issues, my c80 is great and to me this device just keeps getting better, the latest update is also working great on my end so I recommend it highly, its really a steal at the price too
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I love my Nexus 7. It is amazing! It is totally worth it. The unresponsive touch screen is a software issue, which will probably be fixed. I just got a new update, and it seems to be working well so far. If it happens, you just turn the screen off and then back on. (Just sleep mode) I have had no hardware issues with mine, and I love it. It is totally worth it. Go Google!
Asus/Google Nexus 7
CPU: Nvidia Tegra 3 w/ 4 Cores + 1 Low Power Core @ 1.2 GHz
GPU: Nvidia GeForce w/ 12 Cores @ 416 MHz
RAM: 1 GB of DDR3 RAM
ROM: Nexus 7 4.1.1 JRO03D Stock ROM (Rooted)
Kernel: Stock

I've had mine almost a month now and I haven't seen any flaws. I've been beyond happy with mine. No screen lifting, no wonky display, nothing. Buy one.

The N7 I'm getting is a C80, chances of an issue?

Nexus 7 won the Gadget and Tablet of the year. Flaws you are mentioning are minor and you can always swap Nexus 7 with a new one if it's faulty. There is no other 7'' tablet out there which is as powerful as N7. You will love every bit of it....
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My Nexus 7 doesn't have any issues. I guess I'm one of the lucky ones. I would just buy it and hope you get one without any issues.

hmm - maybe i would not buy it again...
Display calibration is very bad (washed out colors, bad gamma) -> http://www.displaymate.com/Tablet_7inch_ShootOut_1.htm
Even the cheaper Amazon Kindle Fire HD has a better display!
Android 4.1.2 unfortunately is still a little bit laggy compared to iOS 6 or Windows Phone 7.5.
Only stock-launcher runs pretty smooth - Apps (even chrome) are laggy and have input-lag...
Pixel density is not so good too - you can see pixels if your eyes are nearer than 40cm - that´s much better on iPad 3 (and probably iPad mini).
This make fonts look a little bit blurry ...
The speaker sounds a little bit tinny too (also better on ipad).
If the display would be better and android would run smoother (it´s a shame with that good cpu/gpu) it would be a very great gadget!
Overall the iPad 3 (and probably iPad mini) is much more perfect. If you are looking only for a cheap device you will maybe satisfied with the N7.

Keep in mind that this site is where people who have problems go to resolve them and/or rant about them, it's definitely not a random sampling. And threads stick around forever, so you can still read about old problems from right when the N7 first came out... the circuit-board has been rev'd, what, 2-3 times since then? And there are a couple of people who seem to have limitless time to stir up the hornet's nest and rally others to their cause (which is, apparently in one notable case, complete misery)... again, not representative of the vast numbers of people who have had zero problems with the N7. That's the thing about confirmation bias... very few people who are having no problems pop by to say "I am having no problems" (we're too busy using the thing to bother). And now we have threads where we are being told that people who have non-problematic N7's just 'think' they have no problems, but they are really just too stupid to notice them... yeah. So...
My wife bought a Nook, then I bought a Kindle. Then the N7 came out, and after playing with it for a couple of days I sent the Kindle back... a bit prematurely, because my wife then sent back her Nook and got a Kindle. All other things being equal, this probably could have been predicted - I need an Android tablet that I can hack to my heart's content, and she needs a vector for the easy procurement and consumption of ebooks, MP3s, and movies. But having tried all three of those devices, I found that none of them was particularly flawed compared to the others... they all had minor problems, most of which were resolved or worked around with a google search; we did have to send the first Nook back when every 8th row of pixels started flickering on and off, but the replacement was fine in that regard... it just didn't fit our usage needs as well as the others.
At this point, if I was still in the market for a tablet the only thing that would keep me from buying a Nexus 7 is the rumored larger-storage version or even the 10" version (though really I find that the 7" tablets have cut down on how much I use both my iphone and my laptop, so the 7" format seems perfect to me. 32GB of storage would be nice though.)

Mechanio said:
Keep in mind that this site is where people who have problems go to resolve them and/or rant about them, it's definitely not a random sampling. And threads stick around forever, so you can still read about old problems from right when the N7 first came out... the circuit-board has been rev'd, what, 2-3 times since then? And there are a couple of people who seem to have limitless time to stir up the hornet's nest and rally others to their cause (which is, apparently in one notable case, complete misery)... again, not representative of the vast numbers of people who have had zero problems with the N7. That's the thing about confirmation bias... very few people who are having no problems pop by to say "I am having no problems" (we're too busy using the thing to bother). And now we have threads where we are being told that people who have non-problematic N7's just 'think' they have no problems, but they are really just too stupid to notice them... yeah. So...
My wife bought a Nook, then I bought a Kindle. Then the N7 came out, and after playing with it for a couple of days I sent the Kindle back... a bit prematurely, because my wife then sent back her Nook and got a Kindle. All other things being equal, this probably could have been predicted - I need an Android tablet that I can hack to my heart's content, and she needs a vector for the easy procurement and consumption of ebooks, MP3s, and movies. But having tried all three of those devices, I found that none of them was particularly flawed compared to the others... they all had minor problems, most of which were resolved or worked around with a google search; we did have to send the first Nook back when every 8th row of pixels started flickering on and off, but the replacement was fine in that regard... it just didn't fit our usage needs as well as the others.
At this point, if I was still in the market for a tablet the only thing that would keep me from buying a Nexus 7 is the rumored larger-storage version or even the 10" version (though really I find that the 7" tablets have cut down on how much I use both my iphone and my laptop, so the 7" format seems perfect to me. 32GB of storage would be nice though.)
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Thank you so much fa ur valuable comment

The N7 is like ace!

Should I trade my Nexus for an S3 now while demand is high???

Hi all,
First off I don't want this to come across as a troll thread, I want a general discussion to a) help me decide if I am making the right decision and b) come up with any points I havent considered.
I currently have a Nexus 4 and whilst I think it is a great device I have a number of concerns related to my use which is making me consider chopping it in for an S3 while the going is good. Here are some of them:
Battery Life: This is a biggie for me and whilst I am not generally away from chargers for any great period of time I am also kind of lazy and often forget to stick my phone on charge. Now the Nexus 4 (both mine and hat I have seen of others seem to get around 3hrs 3g battery or 4hrs Wifi vs around 4.5hrs 3g and 6hrs Wifi on the S3. Such a difference would generally mean I could miss a charge without to much worry of the device not making it through the second day
Camera: Camera in my opinion (dabble in a bit of photography) is pretty poor on the N4. Only marginally better than the GNex if I am honest and certainly not a patch on the S2 I had previously. Whilst I would only use the camera for snaps it would be nice if they had *some* level of detail!
Storage: Not a biggie for me to be honest and having had a GNex before I can live with 16gb fairly comfortably but still, being able to chuck a load of music/vids/comics on the device without worrying about storage would be nice.
Build Quality: The N4 is a beautiful, beautiful device and this is both a great attribute and a curse! I dont like to baby things and I think I would worry too much about scratching the N4's front/back/bezel rather than actually using the device how I would want to... as such I think the cheaper plastic construction of the S3 may suit me better.
So thats the bad... here is what I think I would miss if I switched:
Regular updates: Having had a range of Nexus devices in the past (all but the Nexus S) I have kind of become accustomed to recieving updates as they are released. I see this as the number one stumbling block for me and one that, if I am honest, I am not sure I can get over.
Speed: The N4 is amazing and literally never lags or stutters.... no matter what I am doing with it. I get the impression that the TW interface on the S3 would impact this hugely.
RAM: See above.
Screen: Screen is pin sharp and best I have ever seen (better than One X in my opinion!). Will I be able to live with pentile after that?
Stock Interface: Not a huge fan of non-stock overlays. Again I assume I can get around parts of this (Launcher etc.) but certain parts - Messaging, Email etc. I will be stuck with.
Once again this isn't a troll thread but rather a seeking of advice, preferably from people who have owned both on the points above and whether their is anything I havent considered.
Cheers,
Michael

My battery lasts longer than that. I love the phone so I would not trade or sell.
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I have both and CM 10 doens't run smooth on SGS3. My Gnex runs smoother, and my Nexus 4 sooooooooo much more. I use my SGS3 as my alarm clock now

I came from an S3, wouldn't go back.
The Nexus 4 isn't perfect, no phone is, but the negatives of my specific Nexus 4 are insignificant in contrast the positive points.
Phil

Personally I wouldn't trade it for an S3 as I think the S3 is a pretty cheap feeling device, I just don't like the build quality. And TouchWiz really is an abomination. I think you'd regret it.
But ... I agree about the Nexus 4 camera, it's definitely the weakest point about the device. My last phone was an Xperia arc S and despite its many faults the camera is in a completely different league to my N4.
The truth is there is no such thing as the "perfect" smartphone and every phone contains an element of compromise. You need to decide what the really important factors are to you personally and if battery life and camera quality are showstoppers then go for it. Stock Android is a big deal for me, and I'm so happy to be off the "will-they-won't-they" Android-update rollercoaster than I've suffered with my previous devices.

the s3 dropped in value in the used cell phones market ever since the N4 came out

Cheers for the feedback... To summarise so far if I want an S3 get used to touchwiz as stock android is a no go at the minute... Other than that it is a kind of unconditional love people have for the device... No specific reasons, it's just a nicer device to use...
Anyone else???
(Whilst I am it the N4 keyboard is without a doubt the best I have used on any device)
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Comparison with Amazon Fire Kindle HDX 7"

I have looked at the specs and it seems the Amazon Kindle HDX 7" is as good or better on paper than the Nexus 7 2013. I also presume it does not suffer from the screen touch issues that the Nexus suffers from.
Are there any distinguishing differences between the two devices that make one better than the other?

For one I wouldn't want to run that whacky Amazon OS

tgyberg said:
For one I wouldn't want to run that whacky Amazon OS
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I quite agree. The Kindle fire HD does have good specs, but the nexus comes about as stock as you can get and you can't really put a price on that.

purephysics said:
I quite agree. The Kindle fire HD does have good specs, but the nexus comes about as stock as you can get and you can't really put a price on that.
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I am new to all this, but is it not possible to get rid of the stock ROM and install CM on the Kindle and then we do not have to worry about the Amazon OS anymore and all we have left to compare is specs and quality ?

Zilliman said:
I am new to all this, but is it not possible to get rid of the stock ROM and install CM on the Kindle and then we do not have to worry about the Amazon OS anymore and all we have left to compare is specs and quality ?
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Yeah absolutely, or Xposed.
I'm looking at the two side by side on GSM Arena (www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idphone1=5727&idphone25600) and in realism there isn't much in it; Snapdragon 800 / S4 Pro, 0.5GHz on the clock speed, Andreno 330 / Andreno 320. On paper I don't think there's much difference in them at all, you're right .
I would wager the deveoplement support for the Nexus is going to be a bit better, as the Nexus really is a development platform so to speak. So the ROM/Xposed module/Kernel /modding releases are going to me be more think and fast. But that's about all I can see.

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Yeah absolutely, or Xposed.
I'm looking at the two side by side on GSM Arena (www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idphone1=5727&idphone25600) and in realism there isn't much in it; Snapdragon 800 / S4 Pro, 0.5GHz on the clock speed, Andreno 330 / Andreno 320. On paper I don't think there's much difference in them at all, you're right .
I would wager the deveoplement support for the Nexus is going to be a bit better, as the Nexus really is a development platform so to speak. So the ROM/Xposed module/Kernel /modding releases are going to me be more think and fast. But that's about all I can see.
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Actually the Kindle's CPU is well faster, from 1.5GHz to 2.2GHz that is a 47% improvement.
The Nexus 7 has screen issues - thousands of posts on that. I had thought my Nexus was OK because I only bought it a few weeks ago, but I did the test today and mine also misses touches. I am not really planning to play games with it, but I am thinking why bother with a problematic device.

[QUOT=Zilliman;49158138]Actually the Kindle's CPU is well faster, from 1.5GHz to 2.2GHz that is a 47% improvement.
The Nexus screen issues - thousands of posts on that. I had thought my Nexus was OK because I only boKindle t a few weeks ago, but I did the test today and mine also misses touches. I am not really planning to play games with it, but I am thinking why bother with a problematic device.[/QUOTE]
Yeah I got my numbers mixed up, it is a 0.7 GHz hike, not 0.5.
Well I don't think it fair to call the Nexus 7 a problematic device as there are millions of units that have not suffered any problems. And though mine misses the odd touch in landscape view its fine otherwise.
The Kindle fire XHD does look very good on paper, but there may be hidden issues with that too. I'd like to try one out though.

I previously owned a kindle fire hd and boy was it a pain in the butt. Having to install a second bootloader to get a custom recovery was a hassle. Development wouldn't have been possible without Hashcode's work. Though once you get through all that, it really is a nifty device.
Now I'm not sure if the HDX is any easier to tinker with, but nothing beats the ease of rooting and flashing on a Nexus device.
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Protomartyr said:
... but nothing beats the ease of rooting and flashing on a Nexus device.
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For most people, myself included, that's case in point right there.

purephysics
Well I don't think it fair to call the Nexus 7 a problematic device. And though mine misses the odd touch in landscape view its fine otherwise.
Really? That is a definition of something that is problematic.
It is because of this acceptance of a known problem by so many users that makes Nexus feel it not necessary to correct it. I tried and returned 3 Units none of which of their screens responded even close to my original Nexus 7. Its too bad because other than that it had great potential.
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purephysics said:
[QUOT=Zilliman;49158138]Actually the Kindle's CPU is well faster, from 1.5GHz to 2.2GHz that is a 47% improvement.
The Nexus screen issues - thousands of posts on that. I had thought my Nexus was OK because I only boKindle t a few weeks ago, but I did the test today and mine also misses touches. I am not really planning to play games with it, but I am thinking why bother with a problematic device.
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Yeah I got my numbers mixed up, it is a 0.7 GHz hike, not 0.5.
Well I don't think it fair to call the Nexus 7 a problematic device as there are millions of units that have not suffered any problems. And though mine misses the odd touch in landscape view its fine otherwise.
The Kindle fire XHD does look very good on paper, but there may be hidden issues with that too. I'd like to try one out though.[/QUOTE]
Does yours miss a touch if you are holding it in one hand? Apparently the problem only manifests itself if you are NOT holding it (some kind of earthing issue).
I prefer the slim shape of the Nexus 7 to the wider Kindle HDX that's for sure.
What I am currently p*ssed off about is the inability of the stupid Nexus to make phone calls. Really annoying.

rmn6 said:
purephysics
Well I don't think it fair to call the Nexus 7 a problematic device. And though mine misses the odd touch in landscape view its fine otherwise.
Really? That is a definition of something that is problematic.
It is because of this acceptance of a known problem by so many users that makes Nexus feel it not necessary to correct it. I tried and returned 3 Units none of which of their screens responded even close to my original Nexus 7. Its too bad because other than that it had great potential.
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Can you please tell me what exact tests did you run before you returned your devices? Was the tablet held in one hand or was it laying on a table? Did you try the three point touch at 90 degrees test or some other type of test ? For example if the tablet is resting on my lap there are no issues with the 3 point touch test and the device correctly registers 3 points, but as soon as I place it on the couch the problem is immediately obvious and at 90 degrees the device misses one point.

rmn6 said:
purephysics
Well I don't think it fair to call the Nexus 7 a problematic device. And though mine misses the odd touch in landscape view its fine otherwise.
Really? That is a definition of something that is problematic.
It is because of this acceptance of a known problem by so many users that makes Nexus feel it not necessary to correct it. I tried and returned 3 Units none of which of their screens responded even close to my original Nexus 7. Its too bad because other than that it had great potential.
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I doubt any Nexus owner necessarily "accepts" the screen issues, but many have certainly learned to live with the odd missed touch. This kind of thing can and does happen on many touchscreen devices, it happens from time to time on my Galaxy Note too. In fact it happens about as regularly as it does on the Nexus, which I would say is about once in every 70-100 touches I would guess. On my Nex it only happens when it is lying flat for some reason, the rest of the time it's touch perfect.
A problematic device to me is one that has no end of troubles, processor lag, screen issues, touch issues, charging issues, hardware and software faults. The Nexus has one or two rough edges, but on top of those it's a very capable little tablet.
I understand what you mean about the Nexus brand slipping because people are putting up with faults when they should be speaking out, but people are speaking out about the screen issues. The only thing we can do I hope that the manufactures listen and make the changes needed for the next one.

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purephysics
Well I don't think it fair to call the Nexus 7 a problematic device. And though mine misses the odd touch in landscape view its fine otherwise.
Really? That is a definition of something that is problematic.
It is because of this acceptance of a known problem by so many users that makes Nexus feel it not necessary to correct it. I tried and returned 3 Units none of which of their screens responded even close to my original Nexus 7. Its too bad because other than that it had great potential.
Sent from my Original Nexus 7 using xda app-developers app
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I think its really unfortunate that some people won't buy this because other people are loudly complaining. I'm sure some people have legit problems but I also think others go out of their way to try to find problems. I don't think I've ever owned a PERFECT electronic device of any sort, even my Apple products have sometimes been less than perfect and they are the poster child for no issues.
If you have a tablet with problems and you don't notice the problems, doesn't that mean the problems don't exist?
Back on topic, I think if you want the latest updates it's a no brainer, go with Nexus. If you don't update and don't customize, well maybe go with the kindle?

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I don't think I've ever owned a PERFECT electronic device of any sort, even my Apple products have sometimes been less than perfect and they are the poster child for no issues.
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I quite agree, perfection in electronics is very often user defined. The Nexus to me isn't a perfect device, not because of the screen issues, but because of the lack of expandable storage. But I get over that with an OTG cable, so no sweat.
What qualifies as perfect to one person is terrible to another.
and back onto subject; the HDX sure looks like a fantastic device, but I'm more than happy with my Nexus 7 and even if I saw the HDX first I'm sure I would have still picked the Nexus. Specs on paper only mean so much.

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I quite agree, perfection in electronics is very often user defined. The Nexus to me isn't a perfect device, not because of the screen issues, but because of the lack of expandable storage. But I get over that with an OTG cable, so no sweat.
What qualifies as perfect to one person is terrible to another.
and back onto subject; the HDX sure looks like a fantastic device, but I'm more than happy with my Nexus 7 and even if I saw the HDX first I'm sure I would have still picked the Nexus. Specs on paper only mean so much.
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I think there are thousands of users with problem screens, and mine (which I very recently discovered suffers too) is not just a coincidence. I now believe the problem exists on all tablets regardless if the users have discovered it or not.
We also know that this only happens if the tablet is not held, is not resting on your lap and is not connected to USB. So there must be thousands of users that have not seen the problem because let's admit it, most of the times you'd be holding the tablet in your hands.
The more important fault is that the screen develops hairline cracks which disable touch in various areas completely! The only solution is to replace the screen/tablet. Judging from the reviews on Amazon, apparently the screen is very sensitive to knocks and to flexing, and develops these imperceptible cracks and touch stops working often without realising why.
In general I think the screen is too important a component to just ignore it.

kingston73 said:
I'm sure some people have legit problems but I also think others go out of their way to try to find problems.
Back on topic, I think if you want the latest updates it's a no brainer, go with Nexus. If you don't update and don't customize, well maybe go with the kindle?
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Yes, people do have a legit problem and you don't have to go out of your way to find it, just attempt to use the device as it was intended.
For you to compare a lack of storage (which hopefully you were intelligent enough to notice when you purchased it) to a defective screen is complete Idiocracy.
Do I expect perfection? No. Do I expect the screen to respond at least as well as my first generation Nexus 7? Absolutely.
Back on topic: If you want a screen that responds like a Walmart $59 tablet its a no brainer get the Nexus.
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I recently received my Nexus 7 for Christmas. My only other tablet was a first generation Kindle Fire. I requested the Nexus 7 because of its Android updates, price, and specs. It offered me everything I was looking for and I did my research, trust me. I am not a specs fanatic by any means, but the Nexus 7 runs buttery smooth for everything I do. I couldn't be happier. I was not interested in another round of Amazon's version of Android. While the HDX may be a beast specs wise, I didn't want to put up the effort to root, unlock, and custom mod. I enjoy that to extent as my Kindle is currently running KitKat and finally working decent for its age, but I wanted a strong tablet without the hassle and the Nexus has brought that to me. And that's coming from an Amazon junkie. Absolutely love the Nexus.
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For what it's worth, I haven't been able to reproduce any of the touch issues that I've read other people complaining about, regardless of whether I'm actually holding the tablet or not. I have noticed that the touchscreen seems to be slightly less sensitive than the one on my first gen Nexus 7, but it's never been a problem for me in actual use.
YAMTT shows all 10 touch points while my N7 is laying on my bed, and I can draw basically perfect squares and circles, even with multiple fingers at once. I could just be lucky though.
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For me , the specs of the nexus 7 are fine for me. Everything I have used runs smoothly and for my uses (entertainment, and such) I do not need a faster spec device, since I do not game and dont demand a lot of CPU usage (if that makes sense). Also, one main reason I got the nexus 7 is for development because I love trying out different ROMs and just recently got into using different kernals. The development of any nonnexus device just can't compare to the development of a nexus device.
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Just feel a little bit let down...

Well, ive been using my nexus 9 now for a few days and i just feel a little bit let down knowing how much ive spent and the results ive got. This feeling is purely regarding the hardware as i love lollipop and all the benefits that brings.
I thought i was happy with my nexus 9, well i was until i picked up my nexus 7 2013 and wow.. So light and it felt really nice! No sharp corners and the screen is loads better than the 9. This got me thinking, ive paid double for the 9.
What i would of loved is the 7 just resizing to the 9, using the same style and design (with wireless charging) im not over bothered about the new cpu if im honest, the one in the 7 is fast enough. Plus lollipop feels really slick anyway when i tried the preview version. They would of sold bucket loads, ok a few people would of wanted more but its better that than have loads of dissapointed customers.
Ive owned the Nexus 4 / 5 and both 7's and i even sold my 5 hoping to buy a 6.. Well until they released the price, so im back using the 4 again and very happy with it.
Also to top it all off and rub salt in the wounds HTC in the USA did a 50% off sale on the N9...ok it was only for a day but surely they wouldnt do that if they were losing money on each device would they?
Needless to say my N9 will be going back as faulty for a full refund due to its screen flicker. I love the 4:3 screen ratio so im looking for a alternative.. Any ideas?
Steve

Screen is "loads better" on the N7? I don't understand at all. I've had both side by side and can't see how you can come to that conclusion.

I believe the only alternative with a 4:3 aspect ratio would be an iPad.

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I believe the only alternative with a 4:3 aspect ratio would be an iPad.
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Sadly, I've come to the same conclusion. Ugh.[emoji20]
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wifesabitch said:
Screen is "loads better" on the N7? I don't understand at all. I've had both side by side and can't see how you can come to that conclusion.
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Can you do a Nexus 7 and Nexus 9 side by side video review?
I'm curious how they compare performance wise, i.e. page loads, refresh rates, stuttering, what movies look like on the N9 in the horizontal orientation etc.

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Can you do a Nexus 7 and Nexus 9 side by side video review?
I'm curious how they compare performance wise, i.e. page loads, refresh rates, stuttering, what movies look like on the N9 in the horizontal orientation etc.
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I'll see if I have time this weekend.
Don't have a tripod, would be tough to hold the camera and perform actions at the same time on both tablet, but I'll see what I can do.

CdRsKuLL said:
Well, ive been using my nexus 9 now for a few days and i just feel a little bit let down knowing how much ive spent and the results ive got. This feeling is purely regarding the hardware as i love lollipop and all the benefits that brings.
I thought i was happy with my nexus 9, well i was until i picked up my nexus 7 2013 and wow.. So light and it felt really nice! No sharp corners and the screen is loads better than the 9. This got me thinking, ive paid double for the 9.
What i would of loved is the 7 just resizing to the 9, using the same style and design (with wireless charging) im not over bothered about the new cpu if im honest, the one in the 7 is fast enough. Plus lollipop feels really slick anyway when i tried the preview version. They would of sold bucket loads, ok a few people would of wanted more but its better that than have loads of dissapointed customers.
Ive owned the Nexus 4 / 5 and both 7's and i even sold my 5 hoping to buy a 6.. Well until they released the price, so im back using the 4 again and very happy with it.
Also to top it all off and rub salt in the wounds HTC in the USA did a 50% off sale on the N9...ok it was only for a day but surely they wouldnt do that if they were losing money on each device would they?
Needless to say my N9 will be going back as faulty for a full refund due to its screen flicker. I love the 4:3 screen ratio so im looking for a alternative.. Any ideas?
Steve
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Think its more your wallet that has hurt your view of it. (in my opinion) and I get that. That and lollipop is great its supposed to be faster and not just on new devices this was the goal starting from KK. So shelling out that much money when you have the N7 may hurt a bit. I like the portability of the N7 Spent most my time with the n10 though. I just prefer bigger for some tasks.
The 50% sale only lasted an hour or less and was more hype than anything. Still there is a large markup on these much like there is on every premium device.
The screen flicker i don't have but if I were you I would definitely do an exchange or just send it back.
Personally I have been enjoying it but haven't spent enough time with it yet ( one day)

I'm enjoying mine a lot. I've had both Nexus 7's and I liked the 2nd gen a lot. But it didn't feel like a tablet to much because it wasn't really much bigger than my phones (Nexus 5 and OnePlus) this is a good upgrade. I'm waiting for more performance tweaks in future updates or new Roms. It hiccups from time to time but not much to worry about.

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i believe the only alternative with a 4:3 aspect ratio would be an ipad.
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death before apple!

Just imagine taking the iPad air 2 and putting lollipop on it, best tablet ftw

The N9 screen is a LOT better than the N7's (lightbleed aside). I would go as far as to say that it has the best overall screen of any Nexus device that came before it in terms of color accuracy, fidelity, and viewing angles.

I share the thoughts of the op. I have both the n7 FHD and n9 and ive only been using the n7 since every time I grab the n9 the light bleed, loose back and over heating bothers me so much. I'm returning it for sure. Maybe I'll give it another shot once they work out all these issues.
And also, just noticed today when turning the n9 on, that it has yellowish spots when the screen is black but backlight is on (as in when turning on).
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk

Will they sort the QC issue out thou? Its put me off to be honest.... I'll probably wait for the next premium tablet...

Geeba said:
Will they sort the QC issue out thou? Its put me off to be honest.... I'll probably wait for the next premium tablet...
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Zero issues here with mine. Every product has their issues. There is always an "issues" and "disappointment" bandwagon for the first few weeks.

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Zero issues here with mine. Every product has their issues. There is always an "issues" and "disappointment" bandwagon for the first few weeks.
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Exactly.
Some people think buying The Shield will make them happy. Sure, it's a great tablet, I had one before my N9 I know but check out their board on xda. It's just as littered with complains of this fault and that fault.
I've never heard of a device with ZERO complaints about something.

I am loving my N9. I have the Asus TF701T also and now that ive been using the N9 for a week the only time i pick up the Asus is when i want to play a game that is not compatible yet on my N9. I have none of the issues that others are complaining about. Feels great, looks great and works great.
That's all folks.

I am finding a LOT more reviews where they are saying the N9 was a missed chance... there is no excuse for the squidgy back and light bleed on a premium tablet...
I'm thinking Nokia N1 now... it has the laminated screen and the aluminum body the N9 should of had.

So, what tablets have similar specs to the N9, but without the issues, regardless of cost? I'm currently waiting for LTE version (though maybe I'll grab a sand one when it comes out if I decide I can live without LTE), but I'm definitely open to a better alternative. I know there aren't any that have 64 bit processors or Android 5.0 (yet). But beside those, is there any other Android tablet that's around 8-9 inches and has similar performance. I mostly will use it for web browsing, games, and testing apps that I've developed. Thanks!

Get a nexus 6
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Still there is a large markup on these much like there is on every premium device.
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That's the problem. It's a premium price sticker for a not-premium device.

Nexus 9 and Tegra based tablets are "Tablets to Avoid"

My nexus 9 recently started doing this...
Credit to Andrew Spyker
I've always had Nexus items.. First gen Nexus tablet, second, 3rd.. hell I have a nexus Q
So with this new issue I've run the gamut of Nexus 9 issues. Frisbee backplate, speed that, so you have a reference understandable to the human mind, ill describe as glacial. Charge to 100% eta. 2017. I got stuck on android 5.0.0 because.. who the hell knows. And now randomly my tablet has what I can only describe as seizures. HTC wants me to RMA it.. but you know what, I do not want to RMA it because then I'd be given another one and I would rather have the current one blow up in my face then to subject myself to the false hope of receiving a replacement and assuming, nay believing that all is well.
This is twice Nvidia has been contracted to put a processor in a Nexus and this is the second time the result has been total complete garbage. The entire Nexus9 experience has gotten me closer than I have ever been to buying an Ipad.. Google's and to an extent all Android tablet makers ability to get a tablet produced that even comes close to an Ipad in its ability to run the same way every day has been weighed and measured and found wanting.
The phones, which by all accounts are still their main focus have not suffered like the tablets so I will continue to enjoy them.
They seem to be unable to produce a table that is consistent or compelling and are thus going through the motions and just making a tablet because they have to.. So the Ipad decision is because quite frankly Apple does "going through the motions" better than Samsung/Google/HTC apparently can.
Maybe this will all change.. maybe it will not. At some point I will make the change these manufacturers will not. One thing I will not do is be suckered into a new tablet every 12 months.
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I'm not happy with my Nexus 9 either. It's lacking in both hardware and software.
Hardware:
- backlight bleeding
- too heavy
- flex in the back cover
- battery life is not that great
Software:
- random reboots / crashes
- RAM bug (causing chrome tab reloads for example)
- slow performance occasionally (probably caused by the RAM bug)
- software updates were rather slow for a Nexus device, we had to wait months for 5.1.1
I don't have any hope that Android M will fix any of the software problems. The Nexus 9 has been out for almost a year and there hasn't really been much improvement since the release.
I would like to buy an iPad mini 4 (never owned an iPhone or iPad, but I think there are no good Android tablets out there), the problem is that the Nexus 9 has a bad resell value (<250€) and the iPad mini 4 costs 389€ and I really don't feel like spending that much on a tablet again considering that I haven't even had the Nexus 9 for a year.

Asus zenpad 8.0 S. ... Love mine, sold my Nexus 9 to buy it. Super thin, great screen but get the CA version

I jumped on the bandwagon and bought the 32gb N9 from Google Play in December. After a month of use I felt it was an "okay" tablet. Last month I inherited an iPad Air 1st gen. The iPad gives a much more gratifying user experience.
I feel that Google really blew it with the N9, rushing to get a tablet out and winding up with a rush product at a premium price. I will be much more reluctant to go with another Google product in the future.

I don't know but I actually love my tablet... The biggest gripe I have with it is the tabs in Chrome refreshing, but besides that the tablet works great... There is a small light bleed but nothing as bad as my G3... Sorry to hear you guys had a bad batch, but what might have helped my tablet experience is that I rooted mine and running dirty unicorn...
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I don't know but I actually love my tablet... The biggest gripe I have with it is the tabs in Chrome refreshing, but besides that the tablet works great...
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Same here. And my N9 is bone stock.

hardware is fine, but the drivers running it are crap. stutters, background task getting killed, refresh on tabs when browsing, touching the screen ramps up the processors (it's why the browser uses more power than the screen, each touch takes a crap-ton of power. a few updates back fixed it to 1/2 but still is too much. lowering it to 800 and it stutters, my other tablets only ramp up to 300 with no stutter)... as crappy as samsung is with support i'd have gotten a better tablet sticking with them. i've tried four different roms with the same results and was on stock/rooted for the longest with fire-ice kernel.

I assume you've done a full wipe and ruled out it being a software bug?
If the company is offering to RMA a defective unit in favor of a non-defective one and you turn them down how is that Nexus/HTC/Android/whomever's fault other than your own?
Other than the backlight bleed I don't have too many issues with my Nexus. And that was purchasing a refurb scratch/dent 32gb model from Amazon Warehouse for $290. Is it what I'd expect for a $290 tablet? Absolutely.
I'd consider an iPad Air 2, but those guys are $600 and won't sync up quite the same as all my other crap. Or alternatively the Mini 4 ($500).

Mine is on Preview M unencrypted. I really like it. My 10 is a fine tablet, as well. The 7's I've had I've never really liked.
The apple tablets I've tried seem no different to me. I've even changed my Window animation scale 1, Transition animation scale 1 and Animator duration scale 1.5 and it acts just like an apple tablet.

The freeze on OP's video is caused by an undervolt-powersave thing. It has been reported many times and only an RMA can save you from that.
The RAM deficiency is caused by the one and only Chrome that consumes a ****load of ram on any platform. It fills my G3's 3 GBs of ram in just 5 tabs.
Just use another browser.

ive got a sluggish n9, backlight bleed and a few reboots. battery life is weak...
love aspect ratio though and still think this is still a good tablet overall...

There is no way anyone that is happy with this tablet uses multiple profiles on a regular basis.
If you fresh boot and sign into one user things are ok... not horrible or super fast but ok. Sign in to an additional profile and the tablet goes to complete hell. Stutters, stalls, crashes, etc.
Really sucks because its shared between myself and my girlfriend. This has been the case since 5.0.1 through 6.0 preview 3.

People are never happy with what they have. Yes the tablet has a few issue here and there. Very little consumer grade electronics are "perfect" there will always be something that bugs you.
I like this tab, took a little tweaking, as it usually does with any device to reach the standards of a "current XDA'r".
But at the very LEAST i would disagree with this being a tab to avoid.
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No offense but your optimism does not apply here. Get off the koolaid

osiris355 said:
No offense but your optimism does not apply here. Get off the koolaid
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The incredible pessimism doesn't apply here, nor belong, either. Get off the juice.

RickInHouston said:
The incredible pessimism doesn't apply here, nor belong, either. Get off the juice.
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His post is misleading and mine is not pessimism when its reality. Everyone knows this tablet has issues worse than typical bugs or hardware annoyances.
Edit: I just finished flashing 6.0. I can't believe I am saying this but it looks like google has finally fixed most of the performance issues. I can finally load up multiple profiles/chrome browsing and it doesn't start hanging/crashing. 1 year later and they finally got it right. Too bad it still heats up when gaming but that's not as big of a deal.

I love mine personally, there is a tiny hint of backlight bleeding but it's hardly noticeable. Battery life isn't that great, but that's the only downside for me. It always gets me through 2 days of use anyway since I have a phone for other functions. I also would gladly take a slight issue or two for the vastly superior sound setup for media consumption. Apple could maybe get my buck if they integrated FF speakers, and good ones at that. Until then the Nexus is the best for me. I was also thinking about the Asus 8.0 too, it looks good but it's too damned small. I actually think my Nexus is a bit small too, but it's the biggest and best tab I could get for under $300

I've had all sorts of issues with my Nexus 9. Software is better now than it used to be. But up until 5.1.1, multitasking made me want to kill kittens. It's more usable now with the latest 5.1.1 revision on the Pure Nexus ROM and Fire kernel. Except for Chrome, even XDA makes it choke. HD video performance is hit or miss, MX player with Tegra plug-ins was OK and other media apps stutter with high bit rates. I'm not on M now but when I tried it the battery life improved so there is that to look forward to.
The screen bleed on the bottom has gotten worse.
I learned my lesson and won't buy Nexus products again till they are on the market for a while and are thoroughly reviewed/patched.

Stock feels a little clunky on the Nexus 9. Installed CM and it feels much smoother. Overall, I am fairly pleased with mine.
Then again, I do not use Chrome, rather I use Firefox with Adblock+.

I have has both gen 7, and now the 9. I have also had iPads' and a Sony Tablet.
The 1st gen 7 was my favorite. Its form factor felt the best in my hand, the 2nd while faster was uncomfortable to hold. I'm not an Apple fan but work gave me an iPad 2. I rarely used it. Seemed okay. The Sony Z3 Tablet Compact has AMAZING quality. I just wish I could put AOSP on it, not a fan of the Sony tweaks, but over all its made from great materials and its very smooth to operate.
The 9 for me has been great so far. I did the following as soon as I got it, these are things I generally do to EVERY Android device when I get it.
* Change DPI to the screens native DPI (288 in this case)
* Added a line in build.prop to enable hardware UI rendering. <-- not sure if this is really needed anymore so I continue to add it until I'm told its not.
* Hard code the DNS used to the Google DNS servers
* Set all animation scales to .5
* Force GPU rendering to ON
I have never had any crashing or RAM management issues. I DO have the light bleeding issue, but not bad enough to really complain about.