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Thinking of buying a nexus 7

So I'm thinking of buying a nexus 7 for school but I would like to hear some opinions from the people who own it.does it have many bugs? I am quite into android so I am going root it/install rooms so hows the development on it?
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I use mine for school book text. Works great nut a 10 inch screen would be better for reading.
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no bugs. none that i experience with stock (only spend 2 hours in stock, straight root after that), there are some bugs in certain custom rom but nothing dealbreaking or annoying. The UI is the smoothest ever from android and you will love it.

I am also thinking about buying it or the Asus tf300 or not.
Is there any problem while using the 7" tablet for the school? Or a 10" tablet us better?
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Its a great all around device. Reviews have been mostly positive but you have to use it to see for yourself. As for me, I love the thing lol. Use it for notes and emails. For school it works great. Gaming is great when I get a chance do get my gaming fix! Media usage is superb and I can't complain one bit about it. I have had no issues with the screen defect that has been reported by some. Screen is a tad washed out when comparing it to my one x but the one x is the best screen in the market in my opinion at least. For what that is worth. (Nothing) lol. Size wise I find it perfect for school and everything else. I use the new iPad at work everyday because it was provided by the company( I have to, not that I want to lol) and I just prefer a 7 inch form factor. Overall I'm super pleased with it and would recommend it to anyone who asks. School, games,media and with it being an android device, there is not really anything you can't do on this tablet. (Within reason lol)
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Saenzscene said:
Its a great all around device. Reviews have been mostly positive but you have to use it to see for yourself. As for me, I love the thing lol. Use it for notes and emails. For school it works great. Gaming is great when I get a chance do get my gaming fix! Media usage is superb and I can't complain one bit about it. I have had no issues with the screen defect that has been reported by some. Screen is a tad washed out when comparing it to my one x but the one x is the best screen in the market in my opinion at least. For what that is worth. (Nothing) lol. Size wise I find it perfect for school and everything else. I use the new iPad at work everyday because it was provided by the company( I have to, not that I want to lol) and I just prefer a 7 inch form factor. Overall I'm super pleased with it and would recommend it to anyone who asks. School, games,media and with it being an android device, there is not really anything you can't do on this tablet. (Within reason lol)
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Is it really good performance for playing games? I heard some games aren't have a good performance
No any complain about the nexus 7 ?
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I was actually thinking of buying the nexus 7 also. However, it's completely sold out everywhere and have no idea when these places are getting a new batch... I also wanted to wait until they get the imperfections out of the way and it's a good solid device with no hardware defects. Anyone who bought the first wave, is there any hardware problems you notice? I heard alot about the screen popping out a little

Buy one ASAP! The best tablet on the market right now. Can't best the price point and the power you get(Tegra3). Plus its running jelllybean. Then if you into rooting, unlocking, flashing custom roms & kernels, then nexus 7 is where its at. Android tablet scene doesn't get any hotter/more popular than nexus7 right now. Battery life great also. IT has a great display and very light.
Stop the contimplating. GET IT NOW! lol

I am comparing the nexus7 and samsung galaxy 7.7(P6810), seems P6810 has good monitor and size(7.7 inch ) and nexus7 has better CPU and stock JB OS. Could anyone tell me which one is better?

rankman2004 said:
I am comparing the nexus7 and samsung galaxy 7.7(P6810), seems P6810 has good monitor and size(7.7 inch ) and nexus7 has better CPU and stock JB OS. Could anyone tell me which one is better?
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Nexus 7 better all around. Plus for the price, the 7.7 not worth it compared to what you getting with the nexus 7. Nexus 7 has a great display also. It may not be Amoled but its high quality ips with 720p resolution and the colors won't be oversaturated and cartoonish looking like on Amoled. Pound for pound, nothing beats the nexus 7. Especially another tablet in similar size range. Nothing comes close. Nexus7 leads all the benchmarks right now. Plus we have sick developement. All the best custom roms and kernels. All the hard hitting developers have one and developing for nexus 7. Or if not, they already said they planning on it.

well, when ipad2 and 3 came out, plenty of problems, battery, eat, screen ....
second batch is corrected.
so if you buy it now, i think u will get a second batch, people getting model in july, got less lucky, i think models coming in august and beyond will have a better rate of non defective units.
view the number of defectives units reported by asus, they have figured out what to look at before units go into their box.
stil li think there is less 1% chance that your item got some defects. view the millions already sold, and people telling to purchase it with blind eyes.

Well i was looking at getting one but wanted to sell my Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 first. But after getting to see it today and mess with it some i came straight home and got on the play store and ordered one. Can't wait until it gets here, i guess in the mean time i will just have to try and sell my other tablet. Haha.

Very nice device. It makes an excellent e-reader which pretty much was the difference for me.

N10 or N7????

I will be getting a Nexus tablet this Xmas, it will either be 32gb N7 or 16gb N10.
I'm very torn to which I should go for.
I currently have an iPad and I'm happy to be leaving IOS but I'm not sure how I'd 7" display on the N7.
My gut feeling is N7 due to the size but I'm not sure due to the size!!!
I know indecisive but that why I'm asking for your opinions.
Thank you in advance.
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I also have a iPad and going to transfer over to the N10.. I believe you have to think about what you going to do with the device the N7 is more portable to take on the road with you .

One thing I've in the past is that once you have a large screen and you've gotten used to it if you go to a smaller screen it will feel inadequate and "too small".
I owned a Nexus One before buying the Galaxy Nexus and when I went to use my N1 again just to factory reset it, it felt like a toy.
I would say get the Nexus 10 since you were on the iPad. You'll be very much satisfied I hope! I know I'm getting the N10!

Glennfoot said:
I will be getting a Nexus tablet this Xmas, it will either be 32gb N7 or 16gb N10.
I'm very torn to which I should go for.
I currently have an iPad and I'm happy to be leaving IOS but I'm not sure how I'd 7" display on the N7.
My gut feeling is N7 due to the size but I'm not sure due to the size!!!
I know indecisive but that why I'm asking for your opinions.
Thank you in advance.
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Well the one advantage is that the 7 is sold in most tech stores, Currys/PC World, Comet (well for a while!) even tesco's sell it over the counter so go have a look at it, they are normally right next to the ipad so you can compare,

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Well the one advantage is that the 7 is sold in most tech stores, Currys/PC World, Comet (well for a while!) even tesco's sell it over the counter so go have a look at it, they are normally right next to the ipad so you can compare,
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Yep I've been in to those to have a good hands on feel, and I'm impressed. Is the N10 going to stores or is direct from Google only?
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Glennfoot said:
Yep I've been in to those to have a good hands on feel, and I'm impressed. Is the N10 going to stores or is direct from Google only?
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I heard it will be sold by WalMart, best buy, office depot and stores like that on the 14th.
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I heard it will be sold by WalMart, best buy, office depot and stores like that on the 14th.
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I'm in the UK so not sure where it will be stocked here.
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I think you are right on with the size of the N7 being one of its biggest advantages and also one its biggest disadvantages.
The cost is also something to consider, as N10 is twice as expensive as the N7.
My gf and I have a N7, also a (1G) ipad. For home use, I find the size of the ipad better. Even on the go, the screen size on the N7 is a nice step up from a phone. However, if you are like me and will always have a phone on you, the N7 for what I need to do isn't worth hauling around. The N7 is "more portable" then the N10 or iPad, but both devices can often be a pain to haul around anyway. The iPad's screen size however makes a big difference. I think I remember calculating that my GN had about half the screen area of the N7, and the N7 had about half the screen area of the iPad.
Also, the screen quality on the N7 is solid, but the screen on the N10 will obviously look much better, and will be twice as big.
In my opinion, I would go with the N10. Since you came from using the ipad, I think you would miss the size.

drcujo said:
I think you are right on with the size of the N7 being one of its biggest advantages and also one its biggest disadvantages.
The cost is also something to consider, as N10 is twice as expensive as the N7.
My gf and I have a N7, also a (1G) ipad. For home use, I find the size of the ipad better. Even on the go, the screen size on the N7 is a nice step up from a phone. However, if you are like me and will always have a phone on you, the N7 for what I need to do isn't worth hauling around. The N7 is "more portable" then the N10 or iPad, but both devices can often be a pain to haul around anyway. The iPad's screen size however makes a big difference. I think I remember calculating that my GN had about half the screen area of the N7, and the N7 had about half the screen area of the iPad.
Also, the screen quality on the N7 is solid, but the screen on the N10 will obviously look much better, and will be twice as big.
In my opinion, I would go with the N10. Since you came from using the ipad, I think you would miss the size.
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That's awesome feedback, real world application, which is the most important. I'm thinking that if I was getting my 1st tablet then it would be a N7 but as I'm replacing an iPad then it will have to be the N10.
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Finally made my decision, N10 is on its way, had confirmation of shipping last night.
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I'm having a similar decision problem. Being a college student I'm always on the go and thought that the nexus 7 is for me. My problem is the size of my phone. The HTC EVO 4g LTE is pretty mondo sized (4.7in) and I'm trying to decide if I should just skip the 7 completely. Another problem is the price difference and practicality.
I read a lot of PDFs (take notes from them as well), and watch a lot of YouTube lectures. I've been looking around for the 10 just so I can get a hands-on experience and comparison, but can never find a demo.
Thanks so much for the help so far on this thread! :good:

dm41nes said:
I'm having a similar decision problem. Being a college student I'm always on the go and thought that the nexus 7 is for me. My problem is the size of my phone. The HTC EVO 4g LTE is pretty mondo sized (4.7in) and I'm trying to decide if I should just skip the 7 completely. Another problem is the price difference and practicality.
I read a lot of PDFs (take notes from them as well), and watch a lot of YouTube lectures. I've been looking around for the 10 just so I can get a hands-on experience and comparison, but can never find a demo.
Thanks so much for the help so far on this thread! :good:
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I have both units now and each suits a different need.
But in a one-size-fits-all showdown, I think you're going to find the N7 is too small to really deal well with most PDF files, you'll be spending a LOT of time zooming. 3 inches of extra screen real estate and twice the pixels makes the N10 great for PDF viewing (well, as great as a 10" device can be with the PDF format).

Thanks for that feedback! As for the portability of the N10 would you say it's practical to take the $400 plunge to lug around everywhere?

dm41nes said:
Thanks for that feedback! As for the portability of the N10 would you say it's practical to take the $400 plunge to lug around everywhere?
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I'd say it's worth it to get the Nexus 10, the nexus 10 is surprisingly light for a 10.1 inch tablet while still being well built, it's also pretty thin so think of it as carrying around a small notebook (Paper notebook). In reality it's not going to be that much more tablet to lug around then the Nexus 7, and the Nexus 10 would certainly be lighter and easier to carry around then even a comparable ultra-portable laptop of comparable size.

I was trying to decide between a Nexus 4 and Nexus 10 a short while ago... went as far as making cardboard cutouts of both just to see how they would fare with general usage. Ended up choosing the Nexus 10

I own a N7 & 10 and believe me you wanna go w the 10!!! I had probs w/ my "2" 16gb Nexus 7s.(so did tons of other ppl) Defective first and now speakers pop on mine and my sons. I take care of my devices.. Never turned volume up past 1/2. I still have 1 my son uses and if your in a room and its night time or very quiet , you can hear a pop coming from the speakers. Very annoying!! N10 has been flawless for me thus far. I have not seen any of the issues others have. No reboots...etc. I'm sure the devs will fix all that in time. Open source rules!!:
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You guys are great at marketing, I hope I have no regrets with this choice
I'll dive for the 10
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Well, maybe I'm too late but .. here are my thoughts:
Since you write that you're always on the go .. the N10 is not a tablet you quickly grab from you bag, use it, and put it back in a few seconds. It's made for the full couch experience. If you intend to mostly use it while you're sitting in the cafeteria or in a lecture etc. .. that would be not a problem at all. If you need more mobility the N7 would be the right choice, I think.

As an engineering student ill be doing a lot more sitting and reading, but I know what you mean it was a tough decision. But now I wait :thumbup:
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Here are my thoughts as I am running both an N7 and a N10.
The 7 was my first tablet and though it was the first generation, I did get the one with the loose screen. As I'm a computer geek by trade and lifestyle, i had the tools to pop it open, tighten a few screws and put it back together. The N7 has never come loose since. I keep it in a case that I originally bought for my 1st gen B&N Nook and it actually fits perfectly.
As for it's use, i have used it for everything from playing Angry birds to using it as a map for getting around Europe. It tethered to my Galaxy S3 with 0 issues and works very well and the battery life is impressive. I can get 3 full movies back to back without charging and still have enough juice to read for a couple hours. I have to say i have been thoroughly impressed by it. The N10 would have been a huge pain to try and use as a map around Europe. and it would have been a large target for thieves and muggers as well. The 7" looks like it could be anything from a tablet to a little hand written notepad esp when you are trying to find your way around somewhere. I will agree with everyone that the PDF functionality does suck and as the only thing i keep in PDF are manuals, then yes having the N10 would be better and yes the 1st gen did come with a loose side but as i said i'm a computer geek and it was an easy fix for me. And i do still use it to read books lol. My gf also bought herself one and uses it daily for ready, games and internet, she loves it.
As far as an overall rating the only downs being the screen and the pdf issue. I give it a 9 out of 10 because i don't see these issues as major things. I also never had any speaker issues.
Now as to the N10 I only got it last night and so i haven't had time to do much more than root, unlock the device and add a few things too it. But this morning i was able to show it off the a MD of the company I work for and show him how well it works as well as buy an "office suite" for 99 cents and be able to build files that were already MS office 2010 compatible. The quality of the screen is beautiful and the ability to read comic books as well as pdf is nice. I also intend in time to use this to replace my 1.5 year old laptop. (though nothing wrong with it) i can run citrix through Android and all i really need is a working keyboard. (though I would like a usb to BT transmitter, never seen one though) because i love my ergo split keyboards, hate typing on regular ones.
As for the N10 functionality, so far it's used all the stuff i have on both my S3 and my N7 without question (minus stickmount). I'm going to see if my Sirius satellite radio app works and that way i can use the company wifi to list to my radio account like i do on my phone. So far it's pretty good but but i'll give you more thoughts when i have used it.

Best Alternative to N10?

I really wanted to get the N10, I really did. But Google just had to **** it up with their terrible customer service and a ****ty checkout system that spews out errors every single time. I'm done waiting around, so now looking for an alternative, any suggestions/recommendations?
I'm more of an Android fan obv.
TIA.
UPDATE: I ordered mines after a few e-mails with Google. Got the beast. It's amazing!

Ordering from Google was a piece of cake for me. I ordered it on a Saturday, got it that Thursday (Lexington, KY to Los Angeles). But I've never had to deal with their Support, so I'll take your word on that.
Having said that, I honestly don't think you'll find another tab that compares with the N10, but I love mine so much I'm hardly objective. I believe if you persevere with Google you'll thank yourself down the road.
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Their support is basically "read the online help sections!!!!".
Anyway, I got this email just now from Google:
"Hello,
During a recent review of your Google Checkout account, we were unable to
verify your information.
As a result, your account has been temporarily suspended and you will be
unable to place orders. In order to resolve this situation, please provide
us with the requested information of MR XXXX
within 3 business days by filling out this form"
Um, I have been buying apps with this account for a long time now. What gives?

You got me, bud. If it's a credit card issue, maybe your card company can help. Sometimes when your billing address isn't *exactly* as it's written on your statement it can cause problems. But if you've been been using the same card all along, that's probably not it. I know because of the expense of the tab, my card company called me to confirm I had placed the order before they would authorize it. Maybe that has something to do with it.
I would tell you to buy from Amazon, but the last I checked, their pricing was higher.
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The best alternative right now is IMO is the Kindle HD 8.9, but it is much more difficult to root and all that. If you wait a few more months other companies will have powerful tablets out with new processors and probably high res screens.

You could buy the nexus at retail too? I almost got the Samsung note 10.1 myself. Its screen isn't as nice and I would miss a few other things like the front facing speakers. But the note has the stylus and doesn't have the habit of rebooting unexpectedly either.
Aren't you going to have to straighten out Google's credit card issue in order to buy apps in the future anyway?
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sendbeer said:
You could buy the nexus at retail too? I almost got the Samsung note 10.1 myself. Its screen isn't as nice and I would miss a few other things like the front facing speakers. But the note has the stylus and doesn't have the habit of rebooting unexpectedly either.
Aren't you going to have to straighten out Google's credit card issue in order to buy apps in the future anyway?
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The note also has front facing speakers. The shape is very similar to the n10. Major difference is the note has a plastic feel to it and in my opinion doesn't feel as solid as the n10.
Also the note does not suffer from light bleed bit you're right, the screen is not as nice!
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sendbeer said:
You could buy the nexus at retail too? I almost got the Samsung note 10.1 myself. Its screen isn't as nice and I would miss a few other things like the front facing speakers. But the note has the stylus and doesn't have the habit of rebooting unexpectedly either.
Aren't you going to have to straighten out Google's credit card issue in order to buy apps in the future anyway?
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I'm in UK, and I don't think any retails sell the N10. I would have bought from Amazon but they are £100 more dearer and eBay prices are just insane - in comparison to Google's price tag.
The main reason why I want the N10 is for the screen. I'm a picky prick when it comes to screen resolution. Is light bleed a huge deal on these devices?
I've sent Google the docs they asked for anyway.

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I'm in UK, and I don't think any retails sell the N10. I would have bought from Amazon but they are £100 more dearer and eBay prices are just insane - in comparison to Google's price tag.
The main reason why I want the N10 is for the screen. I'm a picky prick when it comes to screen resolution. Is light bleed a huge deal on these devices?
I've sent Google the docs they asked for anyway.
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Only alternative that ccould match up with the n10 is going to the the Sony Xperia Tablet Z but you will have to wait another month or two. It may actually be a little faster than the n10 as well.
There has been a lot of complaints regarding light bleed but personally it wasn't an issue. Sure I can see some slight paleness on 2 sides in the dark at max brightness but in regular light using auto-brightness I don't see it on a dark screen. And quite frankly I would never have even noticed if it hadn't been for the notorious thread here. LOL

Best alternative its to wait for a new product... Nexus 10 II ... Maybe these guys from google will solve issues with battery life and with charging time.. Its a shame that you have almost perfect configuration but unable to use because of not enough juice. Not a complete satisfaction and this make you angry and tired to be dissapointed. Good luck
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Best alternative its to wait for a new product... Nexus 10 II ... Maybe these guys from google will solve issues with battery life and with charging time.. Its a shame that you have almost perfect configuration but unable to use because of not enough juice. Not a complete satisfaction and this make you angry and tired to be dissapointed. Good luck
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I wasn't planning on taking the tablet outside much, Used for indoors mostly, so when not in use would be charging. How 'bad' is the battery life like?

Get the galaxy note 10.1. It's a beast at multitasking!
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There are various experience with the battery... I dont know where its the problem. I tired all the variants. Kernels rom.. Brightness etc but i cant get more of 5 hours screen on ( normal use)
I realized the problem imediatly after ive got the tablet.. 3 hours at that time from 100 % to 0 %... After few cycles ive got 5 hours but after more cycles she remained at this average. I can not do a RMA anymore. Mine doesn't have screen bleeding. Maybe you will have luck to find one with battery and screen ok. By the way, the screen its nice but not so amasing . No deep Black make sometimes screen look cheap LCD. And so what its grate for some if they almost all keep it like 30% for keep the battery alive more. Sorry for my english
Anyway the main reason i like it its because it rolls android... And have a good cpu... Besides this horror customer care from google. No original accesorie yet after months from launch... That is not the way i hoped from a monster like google and Samsung.
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Samsung note 10.1
I think this tablet is the best alternative right now, because color reproduction is more vibrant then the N10. Black is deep, other main color like red,blue,and green look much more attractive to the eyes beside from the true multitasking. ( That's why I return N10 for the note 10.1). The screen isn't that sharp compare to the N10 but it isn't that bad. (If you use the tab at a right distance, then you won't notice the pixels). Color and the true multi screens, and S-pen are a plus for the Note 10.1. In my opinion, It is the best tab since I already used the Asus transformer prime, Microsoft Surface, Nexus 10. Sorry about my English and I hope this help you.

Even my HTC desire 2.5 years old amoled display it has deeper black than n10. Don t be so overexcited. Let the big companies that already have the next 10 year tehnology deliver to us the goods faster instead of asking 500 dollars on a product that has so many anoing insuficiences.
We need a little small official pogo cable for 4 months guys... Wtf.. And Its not ready yet... This is a nice comedy with us playing in ...
I was having also Asus infinity - laggy as hell like an old 94 computer... I give it back în hope that master google give us something for 2013. Flowless device ... I was so wrong
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Even my HTC desire 2.5 years old amoled display it has deeper black than n10.
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An amoled will ALWAYS have better blacks then an LCD. Its the nature if the display. Blacks on an Amoled are pixels that are turned off, whereas an LCD panel reproduces blacks while lit. Produced blacks (amoled) > Reproduced blacks (LCD). The trade off is worse battery life, inaccurate (but over saturated, which people love) colors, and mostly god awful whites.
The Nexus 10 is a fabulous tablet. It has its issues, they all do. But for a power user like myself, there isn't even a competition. I cannot use a Touchwiz device, and ASUS burned their bridge with me over the Nexus 7. (EMMC issues, build quality nonexistent). Sony is a true competitor but I cannot stand around for months waiting for a company to issue an update. Developers are great, and porting AOSP and CM are good in general, but they have issues and most of the time the cons outweigh the pros and I have to fall back to a stock based system. To each their own though, there is not a "One tablet fits all", even the iPad isn't perfect. I couldn't get past the Apple wall, and 4:3 aspect ratio
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Even my HTC desire 2.5 years old amoled display it has deeper black than n10. Don t be so overexcited. Let the big companies that already have the next 10 year tehnology deliver to us the goods faster instead of asking 500 dollars on a product that has so many anoing insuficiences.
We need a little small official pogo cable for 4 months guys... Wtf.. And Its not ready yet... This is a nice comedy with us playing in ...
I was having also Asus infinity - laggy as hell like an old 94 computer... I give it back în hope that master google give us something for 2013. Flowless device ... I was so wrong
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Amoled screens have an infinite contrast ratio, your HTC Desire will have deeper blacks the an any single non amoled device out there, put it next to an iPhone, a Nexus 4, a Droid DNA and the result will be the same.
The black levels could be better here, I won't deny that.

Wait for the Samsung Galaxy Tab 3. It's rumored to have a high resolution screen like the Nexus 10. Hopefully one with deeper blacks and punchier colours though.
Hopefully it will be announced on the 14th of March with the SGS4.

Just curious...is the Nook HD+ with Cyanogen worth a look? It's a bit bare-bones compared to the N10 (no BT, no camera) but otherwise, it seemed like a good value @ $269. From what I can tell, you can even buy an N2A card to make the transition to CM painless.
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If you don't need Android... The iPad 4 is a decent enough alternative. Slightly heavier, thicker and lower resolution screen. They are on sometimes on sale too.
In android world... If not the nexus... Maybe the new Asus Memo. It's a 300 tegra 3 tablet... SD and it looks like Asus fixed the memory. If not the nexus, I'd honestly wait because a whole new generation of processors are coming.
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Torn between this and Nexus 9

As the title says I can't decide!
I currently have an Asus TF300T and was thinking of upgrading but I've gone and cracked the screen and it's no longer responding so I definitely have to upgrade now.
I was thinking of the nexus 9, it's new and supposedly fast but then I came across the nvidia shield tablet and now I can't make up my mind.
I am a casual to moderate PC gamer and have a GTX770 in my rig, and the thought of being able to stream my pc games to the shield really interests me, especially if I can put it in console mode and play the games on my living room TV with the nvidia controller, which would be great for those moments where the girlfriend complains I spend too much time in my man cave [emoji12]
Reading through the forums there seem to be plenty of posts with problems (granted people don't usually have something to say unless they are complaining), but I'm not to sure whether to take the plunge?
I may just order one and see how it works out, if I don't like it or have any issues I guess I can always send it back and order a nexus 9.
What do you guys think?
I may also unlock it and install custom firmware if there are any available as I always do with any android device [emoji4]

I was in the same boat as you. After much thought and deliberation over many factors I ended up going with the 32GB Shield and I LOVE it.
I have owned/used a couple dozen android devices over many years and none of them are even close in regards to the speed and sheer lag free smoothness of the Shield.
In the real world I don't think that there will be much of a performance difference between the N9 and the shield. I do think that the shield may be able to run under a heavy load longer without throttling itself. I've run the most demanding games on the platform and it barely gets warm. There are a lot of reports about how the Nexus 9 gets extremely hot in an isolated spot near the camera which is of some concern (maybe software updates will alleviate this somewhat, but hard to say).
If you just can't live without a 4:3 aspect ratio, get the Nexus. Otherwise I think the shield is an outstanding device. Keep in mind that the 32GB/LTE Nexus 9 is $599 while the equivalent Shield is $399.
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I was looking at the 32GB shield, for the price it's definitely better value than the N9.
How do you find the screen size? I'm a little worried about finding 8 inches a little small after coming from a 10 incher! Lol
Is it really super smooth and lag free? If so I'm definitely going to get one, most android devices I've used have always had a little lag, but that's because I could never afford the top of the range ones.

Although I am no artist or something, I wouln't buy any device anymore that has no stylus. Is so much easier to select text, links, play Nintendo DS emulators. And besides, using the stylus keeps the display nice and clean. I love it.

I'm torn as well, the only reason I haven't gone with the Sheild yet over the Nexus is due to the smaller screen size. I'm buying a tablet for school productivity and for entertainment, the Nexus's screen size seems ideal for both. If the Sheild was bigger without being that much heavier, I would have gone with it without any hesitation.

I'm coming from a Nexus 7 to the shield so the 1 inch difference in size feels significant to me. I came to the decision for myself that the N9 was just a touch too large/wide for holding it comfortably for extended periods.
I feel that the 16:10/1920x1200/8 inch screen is pretty much ideal for a device I carry every day.
If I had bought the N9 I think I'd be likely to leave it home more frequently as it really is quite a bit bulkier.
I like both devices but I don't regret my choice in any manner.
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It is BY FAR the smoothest running android device I've ever owned. My daughter has an iPad mini retina and the Shield is every bit as silky smooth as her iPad. Not exaggerating in the slightest...
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the 1 inch difference in size feels significant to me. I came to
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I feel ya there buddy
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Har har !
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So I was in a similar boat. I was hyped for the N9 as the rumors of it's specs were tossed about and I was fully in when it was rumored to depart from Nexus standard and include a MicroSD slot. I did consider the Shield as it was getting released and hung around these forums reading about how folks had various issues but it also seemed that Nvidia really stepped up and supported their product well which I was impressed with. Storage was the huge issue for me and Nexus really dropped the ball with only 32GB and no MicroSD.
I too came from the TF300T although I didn't worry about the transition on size. I've been telling women for years that 10 inches is highly overrated and 8 is much better. It (the tablet) is light weight, more comfortable to use and the screen size is amazing.
Also if you do your homework you'll likely find some folks ditching theirs on Craiglist or eBay to by new iPads and N9's and they are usually willing to part with them cheap. I bought an RMA replacement unit from a guy on CL and have been thrilled with it.
Just my opinion and thoughts but best of luck!
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As the title says I can't decide!
I currently have an Asus TF300T and was thinking of upgrading but I've gone and cracked the screen and it's no longer responding so I definitely have to upgrade now.
I was thinking of the nexus 9, it's new and supposedly fast but then I came across the nvidia shield tablet and now I can't make up my mind.
I am a casual to moderate PC gamer and have a GTX770 in my rig, and the thought of being able to stream my pc games to the shield really interests me, especially if I can put it in console mode and play the games on my living room TV with the nvidia controller, which would be great for those moments where the girlfriend complains I spend too much time in my man cave [emoji12]
Reading through the forums there seem to be plenty of posts with problems (granted people don't usually have something to say unless they are complaining), but I'm not to sure whether to take the plunge?
I may just order one and see how it works out, if I don't like it or have any issues I guess I can always send it back and order a nexus 9.
What do you guys think?
I may also unlock it and install custom firmware if there are any available as I always do with any android device [emoji4]
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I'd highly suggest buying the Shield Tablet LTE over the Nexus 9. You must realize that high graphics games can take up to 5GB of space each and thus 32GB with no expandability isn't a viable if you want to actually use the tablet to the fullest. You will be out of space in no time just installing around ten games. The Nexus 9 is far more expensive in any case, so the Shield is a much better buy.
Also take in mind that Nvidia Hub game streaming should not be the deciding factor for purchasing the Shield as Limelight brings that functionality to most devices. I've used it on my TF701.

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PMSL

Thanks for all the replies, I'm definitely leaning towards the shield as I think it may be better all around for me.
I don't really like the ipad look of the N9, and I think the shield would be a perfect size for me. In all honesty I sometimes found my 10 inch TF300T a little too big at times and also difficult to hold, 8 inches would be much more comfortable ? lol
I also like the fact that the shield comes with a stylus, I'm no artist myself but I actually used to be one of sorts and it's something I've slowly been getting back into, I have a wacom graphics tablet plugged into my PC, so the stylus may actually be another good selling point for me.
I'm also used to having an SD card so I don't think I could do with out one.
Gaming would be an awesome addition especially with the control pad. I was just looking at the limelight app too but unfortunately I can't test it out as my TF300T is now dead, so I have no choice but to get a new device.
I've added the shield and the GamePad to my shopping basket... but I'm away from home at the moment on holiday so I'm going to have to wait until I get a back home to actually buy lol!

burt_ie said:
I was looking at the 32GB shield, for the price it's definitely better value than the N9.
How do you find the screen size? I'm a little worried about finding 8 inches a little small after coming from a 10 incher! Lol
Is it really super smooth and lag free? If so I'm definitely going to get one, most android devices I've used have always had a little lag, but that's because I could never afford the top of the range ones.
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I came from a TF300T to a Nexus 7 2013. I can say with all confidence that I didn't miss the extra three inches, basically because the TF300T is 720p and the Nexus 7 2013 is 1080p.
Its the resolution, not the size, that matters.
Now I have the NST LTE 32GB, I can say the extra inch *does* matter. 8" is the new 7" in my opinion. Perfect for the hand still, and I can even put in in my Levi Jeans pocket (though it sticks out a bit) for temporary hands-free transport.
64bit is great and all, but until app developers start making games compatible with the architecture, you're better off getting the NST. So much cheaper, an awesome Wi-Fi direct controller supported natively, nice standard inclusions in the ROM like native screen recording and twitching.

I currently have the Nexus 9 but it has to many quirks... I ordered a shield instead hopefully i nwill be much better, the reviews seem great on it :good:

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I currently have the Nexus 9 but it has to many quirks... I ordered a shield instead hopefully i nwill be much better, the reviews seem great on it :good:
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If you could let me know how you find the comparison between them that would be fantastic!
I'm still leaning towards the shield, and it's still sitting in my shopping basket [emoji4]

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If you could let me know how you find the comparison between them that would be fantastic!
I'm still leaning towards the shield, and it's still sitting in my shopping basket [emoji4]
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My shield will be here today and I still have my Nexus 9 for the time being so I will let you know for sure, cheers!

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My shield will be here today and I still have my Nexus 9 for the time being so I will let you know for sure, cheers!
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I'd be interested to hear too as a currently dissatisfied Nexus 9 owner.

I can not speak for the shield as I have not had a chance to try one out yet, although I seriously considering getting one, but having played with a Nexus 9 for about a half hour the impression I was left with is that it is not worth the money. I really feel like it is a big swing and miss. I don't like the dimensions, the 64 bit chip appears to be an app compatibility issue, no expandable storage, etc. For a tablet that runs $399 for a wifi 16gb it does not feel that well put together. I don't know maybe my mind would change with longer use but after using it I felt not only would I not buy it for $399 I probably would not be that tempted to buy it at $299

Okay so I got my shield and as of right now I have decided against doing a video comparision for now, there doesnt seem to be enough interest. However I'm willing to post any kind of picture or answer any questions. So far on the shield there doesn't seem to any hardware quirks the Nexus has, its a solid feeling device. The ONLY very minor nit pick I have so far is when tap the back there is a little bit of give so it makes a bit of a clack sound, but it doesnt bother me at all. Theres no light bleed which is super nice. Its so much more comfortable to hold than the Nexus 9, the texture on the back of the device is very pleasing and very grippy(if thats even a word) the Nexus 9 doesnt feel nearly as nice to hold. I cant say too much about long term battery life but thus far its awesome, but cant comment on how it compares to the Nexus. I love the pen its very sensitive, but it doesnt have pressure sensitivity which is no biggy for me. Anyway, thats all I can think of off the top of my head, ask away!

This so much better than lackluster overpriced N9.
Also google does next to nothing to optimise or take advantage of their hardware. Nvidia on the other hand does.
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Anyone Rethinking the purchase after watching the Review?

So just like most you guys, I pre-ordered the Nexus 6p and awaiting shipment. Thankfully, a lot of reviews have been pouring in over the past week that gives us a pretty good idea of what to expect. To me, the biggest thing that makes me want to re-think this phone is the sheer fact of how TALL the phone is. I know it's a phablet, and I am currently on the OPO and I have fairly large hands ( I am 6ft tall) and I feel the height of the OPO is probably the max to go before it starts becoming uncomfortable. With the Nexus 6p being a good 1/4" Taller than the OPO, I don't know.. it just seems like it'll be a pain to use the phone with one hand. Plus Pure android does not have any software baked into it to make the interface easy for one handed use.
The other thing that I hear most reviewers say is that they are not happy with the brightness nits in direct sunlight (android authority said it was like 400 nits or something which is pretty low).
So what are your concerns after watching the reviews so far? Anyone getting cold feet? Anyone thinking some other phone (like the Xperia Z5) would be a better option?

I think the reviews have made me more excited to get this phone. I'm coming from a Nexus 5 2013, so it'll be a big size increase. Reviewers are talking highly of the phone with their only negatives really being biases or personal preferences. The aluminum body, how fast and smooth it runs marshmallow , stereo front facing speakers, native fingerprint sensor, ambient display, doze, and all of the features android hub processor brings, large battery, fast charging, amoled display (reviewers seem to agree that it looks great with good colors, but isn't as bright as other amoleds, which can probably be tweaked with software), project fi support, and a low price tag of $499 for a phone that's being compared with all of the best phones available right now like the iPhone 6S Plus, Note 5, OnePlus Two greatly reinforces why I'm buying this phone.
For me this is hands-down the right upgrade for me. I won't support Apple and I won't support Samsung. The closed-source nature of those companies is something I cannot support. I don't much care for their products either.. but that's another topic.
I'm just a tad bit worried about the size, but I'm sure I'll get used to it. My phones have practically doubled in size every year since I had my first cellphone. Besides that, my only other real concern is if there are any repercussions for unlocking/rooting such as apps not working or warranty being voided.

How could you change your mind after the reviews? It's not like the OnePlus Two where there were obvious glaring issues. The only thing I see are mixed reviews on the battery and that all depends on how you use the device which none of the reviews have really gone in depth about. I am waiting for the GSMArena review, they have a standardized tests for all of the important stuff.

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If anything, the reviews are just reinforcing why I pre-ordered this phone as soon as possible. I think they have been very positive overall.
BTW, have you held an IPhone 6S Plus before? It is essentially identical in size to the 6P. This is how I made up my mind on whether I could really use a phone this big or not. I'm coming from a N4 so you could imagine I was a bit worried.
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I think the reviews have made me more excited to get this phone. I'm coming from a Nexus 5 2013, so it'll be a big size increase. Reviewers are talking highly of the phone with their only negatives really being biases or personal preferences. The aluminum body, how fast and smooth it runs marshmallow , stereo front facing speakers, native fingerprint sensor, ambient display, doze, and all of the features android hub processor brings, large battery, fast charging, amoled display (reviewers seem to agree that it looks great with good colors, but isn't as bright as other amoleds, which can probably be tweaked with software), project fi support, and a low price tag of $499 for a phone that's being compared with all of the best phones available right now like the iPhone 6S Plus, Note 5, OnePlus Two greatly reinforces why I'm buying this phone.
For me this is hands-down the right upgrade for me. I won't support Apple and I won't support Samsung. The closed-source nature of those companies is something I cannot support. I don't much care for their products either.. but that's another topic.
I'm just a tad bit worried about the size, but I'm sure I'll get used to it. My phones have practically doubled in size every year since I had my first cellphone. Besides that, my only other real concern is if there are any repercussions for unlocking/rooting such as apps not working or warranty being voided.
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And if it is too big, u can sell it (probably for a premium) online and buy a nexus 5x. It's a great thing!
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They have only made me want it more. I usually have my ambient light sensor set at like 20 to 30 percent and never had an issue. So luckily for me that won't matter... Size is a concern just like the nexus 6 was, but this looks to be much easier to hold. G4 was a big change from my nexus 5, but I adapted quickly. And this should have the similar feel in size changes since the width isn't as big as the nexus 6

Nope

Definitely had me rethinking, about how I am going to purchase it

No.
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The reviews only help solidify my choice of ordering the first day they went on preorder.

Hell to the no... Not worried at all about the size, I'm using the Nexus 6 so... Lol
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The reviews thus far have just reaffirmed my decision to purchase this phone. It really does seem like the perfect Android device so far. Even though there is no such thing as a perfect phone, for me, this seems like the device I have waited so long for!

The only thing I regret is no ir blaster and no wireless charging. I like my note 4's stylus, but I can probably live without that.

My only ragrat is that frost looks better every time I see it, and graphite looks worse
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gonzlobo said:
The only thing I regret is no ir blaster and no wireless charging. I like my note 4's stylus, but I can probably live without that.
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I really wish devices would move away from IR remotes instead of wishing my phone has an IR blaster.
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As my phone's got bigger with each upgrade... I can assure you height won't matter. Width is key and is 1mm wider than the lg 4 I think. But each has their own preference for
Size so it's personal. Don't judge upon receipt... Give it a few days. You'll adjust quite quickly
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heleos said:
My only ragrat is that frost looks better every time I see it, and graphite looks worse
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Yea a made a quick decision early on to bail on the graphite and get silver as i felt the same.
Probably still nice anyway though
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I'm thinking I will be fine with my nexus 6 now. Apart from the finger print reader and camera there isn't much the 6P can do that the 6 cant.
The battery savings come from marshmallow and I have that already on the 6 so I'm losing the urge to upgrade. If I was coming from any other phone though I would be upgrading asap!
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ylexot said:
I really wish devices would move away from IR remotes instead of wishing my phone has an IR blaster.
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My devices are smart - connected to my wifi - been using apps to control then for a long time now.
I'd say time to into into the future, but the future has been here for a while now.