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Questions Re: Android and Win Mo?

Gday all im a bit lost in the android forums so im just going to do a noob thing and ask for some assistance, thanks.
I just installed the "[30 DEC][DFT]LEO "Stock Desire" NAND Android ROM" rom over top of my last rom from WINMO, which was the Energy jan 6 rom.
I also installed the latest Radio "Radio_Leo_2.15.50.14" and HSPL3 along with "MAGLDR112" everything went sweet upon install, so i have no real questions regarding that but im wondering how i can boot back into WINMO if its possible?
If i reboot the phone it just auto loads into Android.
Also i would like to know what the best Android rom is for reliability and secondly how would i update the roms as new version are released?
I think thats about it for now, the rom in currently using feels smooth and great the apps work fine but it feels a little locked down compared to the WINMO but it hasnt crashed on me in the past day which WINMO would have by now, lol.

To flash back winmo, simply go into bootloader/tri color screen. This is done by holding vol down, then powering up.
I'm not going to answer which is the "best" android rom, as that has been asked many times, where there are many answers for, so, search it up.
Updating differs. If it uses daf.exe/install.exe, it's that same as how you flashed android for the first time, however sometimes you can't retain your settings. Clockwork mod flashing however, is unbeknown to me, haven't tried it yet, sorry.

Thanks for that, so what would i need to do to backup my settings and info on the Android just incase i reinstall it just say?
Also if i back to the bootloader would that mean ill have to reinstall a winmo rom?
Then if so would it only boot into WINMO and not android?
Secondly how would i be able to reboot into android again?
I guess im asking is there a way to dual boot and whats the best way about doing it?

gamecore said:
Thanks for that, so what would i need to do to backup my settings and info on the Android just incase i reinstall it just say?
Also if i back to the bootloader would that mean ill have to reinstall a winmo rom?
Then if so would it only boot into WINMO and not android?
Secondly how would i be able to reboot into android again?
I guess im asking is there a way to dual boot and whats the best way about doing it?
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r u being jackass?u have to flash stock wm rom first.ok then u can flash any custom rom.
ok use titenium backup to backup ur android settings abd appp..
ok and after winmo if u want dual boot u have to install sd android build to ur sd card

Why would i want to be a jackass?
Yeah i come on here to troll these forums to post noob questions for ****s and giggles, are you such a person who angers over someone who clearly doesnt know what he is doing and yet you think im being a jackass (god i hate that word, lol never used down here though).
I hope i clearly posted im the OP on how and what i installed but now im lost, i have android working fine but i dont know how to back any data up just incase i do an update or even flash back to stock rom and maybe come back to android later and hope to reuse the backed up data from the android rom.
It took me about a year to get used to WINMO and learning how to install a custom rom on it but now i thought i give android a go and i managed to follow the steps without any issues (yes there were a few more steps i needed to do than i did need to do for a custom rom for WINMO) but now that i have it running i just want to know what to do to get WINMO back on and preferably getting WINMO and android working side by side.
I know how to flash custom roms in WINMO but im just wondering if there was a way for me to be able to boot back into winmo while i have android installed, all i want is to be pointed into the right direction or shown a link to a walkthrough or just given a point form reply as to the process on what and what not ill be able to keep and the best way in doing so.
So from your reply i gather ill need to install android to my SDcard and not the phone memory in order to run WINMO and Android together am i correct?
If so then because i use the ENERGY ROMS i can boot to android from within the ENERGY ROM, am i correct? i think NRG did something with android in his roms.
I am really sorry if i have upset anyone (above) but i am really lost with this, yes i pretty much understood custom roms in WINMO but with this i just did it spontaneously VERY VERY late last night and i wasnt thinking straight i just gave it a shot, so i put myself in the deep end and now im very confused with getting it back to normal as such thats all.
Worst case would i just be able to reformat the SD and then boot to 4 colour screen and just do my custom WINMO install as per usual or would i have to install the stock rom back then install the custom rom?

First of all, ignore the "jackass" above. That was just plain rude and he made himself look like a total idiot.
Secondly, if you want to backup your current Android setup, get Titanium Backup from the market. There's a batch job (click menu, batch jobs) that backs up all your apps & data and system settings. It backs it up to your SD card though, so be aware of that if you're thinking of formatting it for any reason.
Next, get the WM6.5 ROM that you want to flash (doesn't have to be a stock one). Enter the bootloader (tri-colour screen) and flash your WM ROM as normal.
Finally, when you flash a ROM onto your phone, that becomes the only OS on there. You can't switch between Android NAND and WM without flashing. You can, however, run Android from your SD card. There's a forum dedicated to that here...
HD2 Android SD Development
There's lots of info in there on how to do it, but it's basically unzip a file, copy the contents to your SD card, run 2 apps. You'll probably want to go down the route of a bootloader (not really) that runs in Windows. It lets you select Windows or Android when you reboot. They too can be found in that same forum.
That's the only way you can switch between Windows and Android on a regular basis, without flashing a new ROM.
Hope this helps

Thank you very much it has cleared allot up for me, now i know that because i flashed android on the phone its the only OS i can use, i didnt know that TBH.
So yes thanks again and ill do it the SD way and try my luck with that.
One more small thing, how do i go with updating the current android rom im using (if it were to be updated), does it work in a similar process as WINMO custom roms and their updates?
Again i much appreciate the reply, it has helped already.

gamecore said:
Thank you very much it has cleared allot up for me, now i know that because i flashed android on the phone its the only OS i can use, i didnt know that TBH.
So yes thanks again and ill do it the SD way and try my luck with that.
One more small thing, how do i go with updating the current android rom im using (if it were to be updated), does it work in a similar process as WINMO custom roms and their updates?
Again i much appreciate the reply, it has helped already.
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Generally, you flash an updated ROM the same way you flash the original ROM. There are backup options like Titanium Backup or ClockWork Mod (if the ROM supports it), so you can get everything back up and running again.

[Q] To run Android on Hd2 or not?

I'm in need of some expert advice. I would really like to run Android on my HD2 and have read a ton of threads on here on how to do run it. Problem is there seems to be several different options, ie. Nand, SD and so on. The more I read the more its difficult to know which option to choose. I new to this and do not want to break my phone. Would you advise trying this myself or sticking with what I have. Here is what I am currently running.
OS: 2.5.21913
Manila: 2.5.20181424.0
ROM: 3.14.531.1
Radio: 2.15.50.14

This will void your warranty, but dont worry, you can flash it back to "normal"
let me spare you some trouble and time then!
If you want to run both, i would advise you to use SD card method, and your windows os will be untouched.
I personally grew to hate WinMo and never went back since the early days of HD2 Android when only SD method was available.
This phone should have never come out without Android on it! Big fail! but it is an awesome machine still and thanks to the great people here at XDA, its a whole new level of phone with Android!
Head to the nand section (if you only want android) and download Typhoons CM7 build.
The instructions are pretty clear, and everything you need (including instructions ) is there.
Is the fastest and more stable build i have used and believe me as i am a flash addict (rom flashing of course). All my apps work and there are almost daily updates and treats from the Cyanogen mod team.
Cyanogen, always one step ahead. Making the smartphones even smarter...
PS: REMEMBER to ALWAYS backup before trying something new!

Well if you're absolutely sure of what is to be done and you don't care for your warranty as much, then flash away a NAND android build. Here is a guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1021837
If you're not sure if you have something already or not, then you might as well still flash what is required, it won't hurt, but it'll reassure you that you have the right settings.
If you really aren't sure how to do this, then just stay away. I would advise you not to ask someone to do it either since you may run into problems and then you'll know not what to do.
As said however, a sd build is painless, it won't even void your warranty so if you wan to be safe, use that.

Thanks for the help. From what I've read doing and SD is safer but it seems to not be stable to run and freezes a lot. Is this your experience with it as well?

Personally, I find there to be no difference between the two. Especially when it's a stock/cyanogen mod build. In sense builds I would say I found a difference such that NAND builds were faster, but I can't be too sure on whether I was swayed by my excitement of a NAND build at that time or sense builds were just slow already difference is so hard to tell.

cbreehl said:
Thanks for the help. From what I've read doing and SD is safer but it seems to not be stable to run and freezes a lot. Is this your experience with it as well?
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Its been a while since i used SD, but something i have always seen improved on NAND, was the wake up speed from standby. On SD, there was almost 2 secs before screen came on... maybe this is resolved nowadays! not sure!

Ok, you can for sure use the SD version - but my personal meaning is, that nowadays everybody uses the NAND versions cause of performance reasons. I changed to that and i would never go back Stable, fast etc ... sometimes a bit tricky whe you install a rom the first time, but normally, like in the CoreDroid releases there is a good manual avaible - keep close to that, do not change something without experience and it will work

There is nothing special about installing nand rom.
What you need is hspl and radio (you've got the right) first, then magldr 1.13 (bootloader), clockwork recovery console (clockwork mod to flash, reformat your sd and so on), the rom specific recovery layout (space for your rom) and the .zip file of that rom you want to flash. And ofc for the most of nand roms a sd ext 3 partition for your apps or system data. (Can be done with cwm all over the phone).
For warranty just restore all things done by customizing your hd2. No worries about that. You just need to restore the original spl and stock winmob rom
Nand is the best for a stable system.
Hf
Sent from my HTC HD2

+1 for nand, also tends to have better battery life. Go with clk not magldr as it gives you a fully native android.

Thanks for the info.. This is definitely something I want on my phone as I truly am bored with a very much dislike Windows. I am good at following directions but I have never done this before so I guess for those of you who have my question is would you recommend me trying this or is it easy for me to break my phone therefore I should just leave it as is and deal with Windows for another year.

NAND is better for battery life, but American android cyanogen build (in my sig) is fast, smooth and trouble free. I would suggest you try a SD build before moving onto NAND to sample. SD installation is as simple as download to computer, extract, copy and paste Android folder onto SD card.

The short answer to your question is: f*Co yeah!
Its simple really, if your good at following instructions then you have a 00.01% chance of breaking your device, therefore why not.
Now since you took the effort of registering here, which is all about tweaking, moding( you name it, there is a mod for that too), it would be a shame that you'll go back to using some thing that you don't like (winmo) for another year, just because you don't have the guts?

cbreehl said:
Thanks for the info.. This is definitely something I want on my phone as I truly am bored with a very much dislike Windows. I am good at following directions but I have never done this before so I guess for those of you who have my question is would you recommend me trying this or is it easy for me to break my phone therefore I should just leave it as is and deal with Windows for another year.
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you dont have to deal with windows contact me i can help youi further ...
EDIT:: i am really really experienced you can see my sig too

you can use an sd rom for start. because it doesn't need hspl etc. i can recommend americandroid.it has no lags.give it a try,very easy.

mutil said:
you can use an sd rom for start. because it doesn't need hspl etc. i can recommend americandroid.it has no lags.give it a try,very easy.
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Seems that is the favorite can you provide me with the link to find the download for it?

Yes. Just click on the red American Android link in my sig below.

If you're going to invest the effort I'd just go nand, you can always reflash windows. I'd go with typhoon or hyperdroid, both solid cyanogen based roms. Otherwise you'll just waste time setting up SD install only to have to redo it. My 2c

transition in steps
+1 for going with American Android SD version of Gingerbread.
I first tried a RAM version and was impressed, but AmericanAndroid is as smooth and stable as you can get with an SD build.
Love it and my phone is amazing with it!
Instructions are clear in the first post and there is really no chance of bricking your phone.
Live with it for a while and if you then feel like you want more...then try a NAND build.
Good luck...you won't regret it!!!
David

I am kind of new at this, but here's my two cents.
If you know you don't like the Windows OS, you may as well commit to a NAND ROM. Someone can correct me if I am wrong, but I got the impression, the SD ROMs were hard to reboot. Don't you have to boot into Windows and run a file to boot the Android? Maybe I just didn't read all of the boot loader options.
Another thing I learned is that you probably want to try a ROM without Sense to start with. My first approach was to go for the slickest ROM since I had a nice new slick phone. Looking back, I should have gotten something stable working to see Android work, and then, I could have tried the Sense 3.0 ROM. Just a thought.
Another frustration I had was finding a full set of directions. I am like you in that I can follow directions, but I had trouble with all the different directions. Some ROMs need to flash a partition. Some are SD-based and you follow a totally different set of instructions. It sounds like you have already done enough reading to get past this point, but you might consider the completeness of the instructions that come with the ROM when you select the ROM you want to use.
I hope those thoughts help.

Hey guys
quick question does anyone have a desend an good overview how i can put android on my hd2 instead of wm6.5 dont want to use that anymore...
i just want a good way to install any android version on my phone

[Q] Updating NAND Android from MAGDLR to CLK

I would like to switch from MAGDLR to CLK for the sole purpose of charging my phone when it is off. Since I read that CLK is able to do this.
I would like to know how I would go about this since I thought about going with HD2 Tookit to ease the process a bit for me.
Located here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1090783
Right now my phone has MAGDLR 1.13 on it with Coutella's release of Android. No CWM. I had it for quite some time and I have not really had too many issues with it though I would like to update to CyanogenMod 7 Gingerbread Rom. I'm leaning towards this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=933951
So what I'd like someone to help me out with is how I get this done. All this talk of repartitioning and recovering has confused me a bit but I think I have to:
1. Task 29 my phone
2. Repartition my phone to a 140mb or 150mb partition for the rom.
3. Then install CLK
4. Then flash the rom
Would that be the correct method of going about this and ending up with a working phone?

Poopmonkey said:
I would like to switch from MAGDLR to CLK for the sole purpose of charging my phone when it is off. Since I read that CLK is able to do this.
I would like to know how I would go about this since I thought about going with HD2 Tookit to ease the process a bit for me.
Located here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1090783
Right now my phone has MAGDLR 1.13 on it with Coutella's release of Android. No CWM. I had it for quite some time and I have not really had too many issues with it though I would like to update to CyanogenMod 7 Gingerbread Rom. I'm leaning towards this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=933951
So what I'd like someone to help me out with is how I get this done. All this talk of repartitioning and recovering has confused me a bit but I think I have to:
1. Task 29 my phone
2. Repartition my phone to a 140mb or 150mb partition for the rom.
3. Then install CLK
4. Then flash the rom
Would that be the correct method of going about this and ending up with a working phone?
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1. task29 (if you want to start with complete clean nand...)
2. the partitions are created by flashing clK (you have to choose the clk nbh file with enough space for your rom (in your case 140/5mb or 150/5 ))
3. install cwm recovery for clk
4. flash your rom with cwm

Thank you for the quick reply! Now, I never really used CWM so I am wondering would the toolkit help me install it or where would be a tutorial to install the mod into my phone?

don't know the toolkit.
really isn't hard though.
see mskips tuts (actually, for everything):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1044830
good luck!

Thank you for the advice and the tutorial. I read through it and it doesn't seem to difficult but in the tutorial it mentions that CWM requires MAGLDR? This is true or is this just outdated info?
I also read through the CLK release notes and it mentions that it does not support rmnet and MAGLDR does. What would that missing functionality affect exactly?
After reading through the above tutorial, I read I need a specific radio version. Where would I go to check the Radio Version? It's not like WM6.
Lastly, after reading the release notes, the developer of CLK has a bit of a negative tone towards CLK and mentions that it really isn't any better than MAGLDR. So given that would anyone advise against CLK? I really would like to charge my phone while it is off and MAGLDR currently does not support that and I'm not sure if it will ever.

Poopmonkey said:
Thank you for the advice and the tutorial. I read through it and it doesn't seem to difficult but in the tutorial it mentions that CWM requires MAGLDR? This is true or is this just outdated info?
I also read through the CLK release notes and it mentions that it does not support rmnet and MAGLDR does. What would that missing functionality affect exactly?
After reading through the above tutorial, I read I need a specific radio version. Where would I go to check the Radio Version? It's not like WM6.
Lastly, after reading the release notes, the developer of CLK has a bit of a negative tone towards CLK and mentions that it really isn't any better than MAGLDR. So given that would anyone advise against CLK? I really would like to charge my phone while it is off and MAGLDR currently does not support that and I'm not sure if it will ever.
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Hi,
The main difference between magldr and clk is the charging whilst it's off.
There are some complaints of data loss with clk,but this can be overcome with various wrappers.
Clk is native Android and has the advantage of being able to use ROM Manager too.
I personally find magldr easier to use,and have no use for charging when it's off,cos I have 2 batteries.
Magldr also has Tetris.
And now of course there is THIS TOOL (Don't forget to thank him).
Read the thread and see the advantages/disadvantages.

mate, you are thinking about it too much. pick one and go. give it a few days. if something is not working out, switch it. and to put your fears at rest, cwm can be used on magldr and clk. you have nothing to lose.
go and enjoy!

I may be! HAHA! I just want to understand everything before I take the plunge. This whole CLK memory loss thing concerns me so I might be sticking with MAGLDR, though I really wanted to charge my phone while it's off. Hopefully, someone will patch MAGLDR with that functionality. I'm not sure what the wrappers are but I suppose they are patches of sorts.
Also, would there be any way to preserve my memory of my phone like my contacts and stuff or do I have to erase them? I have most of my apps on my SD card so they should transfer over when I go to a cyanogenmod7 rom right?

Poopmonkey said:
I may be! HAHA! I just want to understand everything before I take the plunge. This whole CLK memory loss thing concerns me so I might be sticking with MAGLDR, though I really wanted to charge my phone while it's off. Hopefully, someone will patch MAGLDR with that functionality. I'm not sure what the wrappers are but I suppose they are patches of sorts.
Also, would there be any way to preserve my memory of my phone like my contacts and stuff or do I have to erase them? I have most of my apps on my SD card so they should transfer over when I go to a cyanogenmod7 rom right?
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when you start fresh, it starts fresh.
my contacts are synched via gmail; i suggest you do the same or some other 3rd party app.
apks are not preserved unless dl'd from a market. but if you dl Astro from market it can backup all of your installed apks (free app btw.) just reinstall from sdcard after starting fresh.
i do not know if a nand backup from magldr would work on clk. i wouldn't as issues may arise.
now just do it. install clk. it's okay. everything will be fine. backup before you do and if clk isn't for you, return to magldr and reinstall your nand backup and all be like it was a bad dream. go go go!

Ok, I gonna go ahead after just two more questions. I don't really use my data on my phone. I only really use it to send picture messaging. I run on AT&T so I can only get EDGE speeds but I do use wifi many times for a quick search on the internet. Now, if I flash CLK since it doesn't support RMNET would it somehow impact my usage?
Lastly, I've been reading up on tutorials and it might be an incorrect assumption but is CLK and CWM together when you flash CLK? Because I see no mention of installing CWM, the tutorials just access the CWM menu and flash the rom.

Poopmonkey said:
Ok, I gonna go ahead after just two more questions. I don't really use my data on my phone. I only really use it to send picture messaging. I run on AT&T so I can only get EDGE speeds but I do use wifi many times for a quick search on the internet. Now, if I flash CLK since it doesn't support RMNET would it somehow impact my usage?
Lastly, I've been reading up on tutorials and it might be an incorrect assumption but is CLK and CWM together when you flash CLK? Because I see no mention of installing CWM, the tutorials just access the CWM menu and flash the rom.
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Hi,
I can't comment on on the quality of data or wi-fi that you will get.That is something you will see when it's installed.
If you use the toolkit, you will be firstly installing cLK.Then you will need to install a system partition for the ROM you intend to use.You choose the size according to the information on the [OP] of the ROM you want.During this process the system partition is created and CWM is installed.

So are you saying that the lack of RMNET can affect the performance and/or usage of Wifi and EDGE?

Poopmonkey said:
So are you saying that the lack of RMNET can affect the performance and/or usage of Wifi and EDGE?
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Hi,
I'm sorry I cannot comment fully on this.
I am just passing on observations from other users.
I,in fact have magldr, and have no such problems.

That's fine I was just wondering. I have MADLDR right now as well and it does not have any problems but I just want to be fully educated on CLK before I take the plunge. Also, I had another question in my previous post that you might be able to answer. Does CLK already have CWM incorporated into it because the tutorials I read on installing CLK takes no mention on installing CWM but rather it just boots into its menu.

Poopmonkey said:
That's fine I was just wondering. I have MADLDR right now as well and it does not have any problems but I just want to be fully educated on CLK before I take the plunge. Also, I had another question in my previous post that you might be able to answer. Does CLK already have CWM incorporated into it because the tutorials I read on installing CLK takes no mention on installing CWM but rather it just boots into its menu.
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Hi,
As I mentioned before,try THIS TOOL (Don't forget to thank him)
If you take the plunge and install cLK,follow the steps on the toolkit.
1.task 29
2.install cLK
3.System repartition according to the ROM you want to use.
This repartitioning installs CWM as well.

Well, I flashed my phone and everything works but I used a pdf tutorial from the rom's page and then just used the Toolkit to only install CLK and partition it. Anyways, now that everything is working how can I change the Phone's POST Screen. The very first one cause I have this stupid NRG screen when I used his roms and that one replaced my T-mobile one. I'd like to replace it regardless. How would I do this?

that's the splashscreen. you flash it like you did a rom on WM.
best thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=895089
i have a couple too:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12713124&postcount=3
congrats on getting everything working!

Ah great! Thanks for the info, just a few minutes ago I flashed a different splash screen and its all good now! Yeah thankfully, I didn't really encounter any hiccups when I was installing all this stuff. Just had to edit a .bat file for my fastboot since the guy who made the premade package did not update it with the newest CWM but I got it and changed it so it flashes CWM 4 for me.
Also, even though CLK doesn't have RMNET, it isn't affecting my wifi usage so that's a plus and I really do like CM7 especially the sleep animation when you go into or out of sleep. Thanks again for all your help guys!

Poopmonkey said:
Well, I flashed my phone and everything works but I used a pdf tutorial from the rom's page and then just used the Toolkit to only install CLK and partition it. Anyways, now that everything is working how can I change the Phone's POST Scre
en. The very first one cause I have this stupid NRG screen when I used his roms and that one replaced my T-mobile one. I'd like to replace it regardless. How would I do this?
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Hi,
LOL.I've still got NRG boot screen.
Reminds me of the good/ bad old days.
There are lots of ways to change your boot screen. Try here:
http://www.google.com/m?gl=gb&sourc...xda-developers.com+Change+flash+screen+on+hd2

[Q] -Specific- question about rooting.

Please, dear XDA'ers, take a little bit of time apart for a newbie at rooting. :l
I'm an Annoying Noob to you, as you probably already guessed. But I made this account, because I want to root my phone to Android gingerbread, with a -STABLE- sense (2.1+)3.0 UI.
So I had my eyes on THIS one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1038694
BUT! I'm REALLY a noob at rooting. I've tried HaRET rooting, with a Nexus android Rrom, well... That didn't go too well, because via my SD things would become veeeery slow after a while. So I NAND rooted my phone to Android Gingerbread 2.3.3. I'm quiete happy with it, but it's not really the HTC feeling I get when I look at the UI.
So I saw sense 3.0 and fell in love.
Well enough about that. I have an HTC HD 2, it's NAND rooted and it's European... ALL I want is a STABLE sense 3.0 rom... That works for my phone.
Now I was wondering, if I would instal it... Would it work properly for me? None of us are sure. So that's why I want to back-up my ROM. With Clockwork rom recovery tool... you know, from the market. Well I get a very annoying error every time I try to back-up my data. I did flash the app to it's most current version, but when I want to make a back-up, my phone just reboots... and does... basically, nothing.
I don't want to mess up my phone entirely. So what should I do first, dear XDA'ers? Please, I just don't want my data to get lost. I tried multiple tutorials but none seem to have the answer to my problem!

sense 2.1 and sense 3 roms aren't stable yet. they have graphic glitches and camcorder problems. but if you don't consider these problems you can live with it. i may recommend http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075703 and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1124757. in order to prepare your phone for different nand roms you ca use http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1090783.

mutil said:
sense 2.1 and sense 3 roms aren't stable yet. they have graphic glitches and camcorder problems. but if you don't consider these problems you can live with it. i may recommend http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075703 and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1124757. in order to prepare your phone for different nand roms you ca use http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1090783.
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I will try this, and if I can't figure it out I will come back to this thread and whine more.
In any case, I think it's appropriate to thank you, it's the least I can do.

btw i think your phone has hspl 2.08 and mgldr?!

rom manager dont work with magldr.
To make a backup boot into cwm manually:
hold power down while rebooting -> magldr screen should appear
Then navigate to ad recovery-> backup and restore..rest should be clear.
..i wonder, how you installed nand roms, without to know how to boot to recovery? oO

j4n87 said:
rom manager dont work with magldr.
To make a backup boot into cwm manually:
hold power down while rebooting -> magldr screen should appear
Then navigate to ad recovery-> backup and restore..rest should be clear.
..i wonder, how you installed nand roms, without to know how to boot to recovery? oO
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I just raped my phone I think. I had HSPL installed, and MAGLDR and I think some other stuff too, so I used the first rom the first poster linked, and I downloaden the two files it told me to download in the instructions... I installed the custom RUU from that first rom, and then my phone kinda died. It only said "HTC" in green, and it diidn't do anything. So I flashed it back to WinMob 6.5. Now I have WinMob 6.5 (rom 1.66 or something I think) and I'm not sure what to do next. I don't want to brick my phone and I don't want WinMob 6.5 either.
*Sigh* I wonder if I'll ever understand rooting.
So just to clarify, I have HSPL (I'm sure it's the correct one too.) And I have MAGLDR installed on my phone. And I don't get the instructions from said thread.
<_> My brain is molten.

if you have come until mgldr don't give up. download the nand tool kit i mentioned a few posts before.choose and download a simple rom for beginning (you may take tyweens typhoon) put it in your sd. after that you will take a few steps. don't be afraid,many people (including me) faced same problems.

mutil said:
if you have come until mgldr don't give up. download the nand tool kit i mentioned a few posts before.choose and download a simple rom for beginning (you may take tyweens typhoon) put it in your sd. after that you will take a few steps. don't be afraid,many people (including me) faced same problems.
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Thing is, I don't want a simple rom... I'm stubborn like that, hehehe...
I want a sense 3.0 rom, but I'm not sure how to follow the instructions in the thread. It uses terms I've never heard from before...
Well, if there's a stable android 2.3.3/2.3.4 rom with sense 2.1, I'd consider that! Also, I hate the MAGLDR boot screen... you know, "Go go go!" I saw a rom with a very smooth and pretty boot screen... I'd try that too!

i just say if you can succeed to flash one, then you will learn the steps. after that you can try a different rom everyday,as i do

mutil said:
i just say if you can succeed to flash one, then you will learn the steps. after that you can try a different rom everyday,as i do
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I will, hahaha. I just want my phone to be a real HTC phone, so I'm looking for a rom that actually has sense... If you have a suggestion...?

since your hd2 is eu, you should also use sd-ext partition have you done this?

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since your hd2 is eu, you should also use sd-ext partition have you done this?
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Yes, I have. I made a 2 gig EXT-4 partition. I just don't know what to do with it. I have Radio Leo installed, MAGLDR, HSPL... CWM and all that.
I tried flashing the two roms you suggested in your first post but they are stuck on the boot screen. I don't know what I'm doing wrong...

have you made necessary cwm partitions using usb flasher and nand toolkit?

and how did you make a 2 gb ext4 partition

[Q]noob questions and noob help

hey guys i just got my htc hd2 and ive been playing with it lately but i cant seem to "crack the code" of this whole customization thing
i have been reading the guides and its been confusing and more confusing and more confusing now im completely lost cause i have no idea where the radio is coming from the custom rom or the file names that are mentioned in the guide. no doubt i feel dumb and retarded but a little help would be appreciated please and thank you.
i have htc hd2 t-mobile north america 1024 mb
i have installed hspl through the tool kit dont know if it worked or not i tried check it all looks the same to me. i dont know what to do next through the tool kit or the guides im trying to install cm7 nightly fingers crossed and still trying and phone isnt bricked. so any help would be great cause i have no understanding of what is going on at all like i am out, totally out of my mind trying to figure out the terms and procedures.
if anybody could point me to an extremely noob guide that would be great cause i read some and my brain is dead.
thanks alot appreciated to the max

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11097380
You have to be careful when flashing the radio on a tmous model. This is where you can brick your phone. Do not use the radio that is used in the guide. I think it is not compatible Ruth the tmous hd2. Read here about it when you do not know what your doing. You should not start flashing before you understood everything what you do.
This is a step by step guide which you would have found when reading the stickies....
Sent from my HD2

alright...calm down. Before you want to embark on any customization, ensure you have the correct HSPL and a radio on your phone. First enter the bootloader. Check your current SPL version. It should read HSPL2.08 if you have flashed HSPL correctly. If its correct, download and flash Leo_RADIO_2.15.50.14** (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611787). If you want to flash any another radio, ensure it is a .50 version(x.xx.50.xx**) After flashing the radio, enter the bootloader and check if the HSPL and radio is correct before you move on. If you want to flash a custom WM rom (http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=534), please do. Ensure that the ROM is compatible with the TMOUS HD2 (compatibility will normally be stated in the first post). A complete and detailed guide on all of the above can be found here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653614).
I understand that you want CM7 on your phone. To play safe, i recommend that you stick with windows mobile and tinker with a SD Android build before you to venture into dual booting WP7 and android.
Download an Android SD build (http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=735). I am using AmeriCan Android (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=957652). After extracting,copy the Android Folder into the root of your sd card. Boot into WM, navigate to the Android folder using the file explorer and tap 'clrcad' followed by 'haret'. Android will now boot(first boot will take some time).
Hope this helps and like what rauschkugl said, kindly do some research and reading first. Try the tutorials out and after you are comfortable with flashing, you can move on to WP7, NAND android and dual booting between Wp7 and SD Android: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17282874&postcount=3 (ignore step 1).
Gd luck flashing and enjoy!. Do ask if you are really unsure of something.

kawshigan said:
alright...calm down. Before you want to embark on any customization, ensure you have the correct HSPL and a radio on your phone. First enter the bootloader. Check your current SPL version. It should read HSPL2.08 if you have flashed HSPL correctly. If its correct, download and flash Leo_RADIO_2.15.50.14** (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611787). If you want to flash any another radio, ensure it is a .50 version(x.xx.50.xx**) After flashing the radio, enter the bootloader and check if the HSPL and radio is correct before you move on. If you want to flash a custom WM rom (http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=534), please do. Ensure that the ROM is compatible with the TMOUS HD2 (compatibility will normally be stated in the first post). A complete and detailed guide on all of the above can be found here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653614).
I understand that you want CM7 on your phone. To play safe, i recommend that you stick with windows mobile and tinker with a SD Android build before you to venture into dual booting WP7 and android.
Download an Android SD build (http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=735). I am using AmeriCan Android (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=957652). After extracting,copy the Android Folder into the root of your sd card. Boot into WM, navigate to the Android folder using the file explorer and tap 'clrcad' followed by 'haret'. Android will now boot(first boot will take some time).
Hope this helps and like what rauschkugl said, kindly do some research and reading first. Try the tutorials out and after you are comfortable with flashing, you can move on to WP7, NAND android and dual booting between Wp7 and SD Android: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17282874&postcount=3 (ignore step 1).
Gd luck flashing and enjoy!. Do ask if you are really unsure of something.
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bro thanks alot for your help i have a few questions and conerns since i have read most of the guides and im nothing but confused cause im just looking to do a nandroid install on my htc through magldr.
i have installed hspl and the radio.
question#1) radio .50 and above that you install what differences are there and how can you tell ?
question#2 i am using hd2 android nand toolkit cause i used to have SGS vibrant and i used a similar tool kit which makes your life so so so so so easy cant thank god enough for that. so can i just use that and keep running and gunning my htc hd2 down with it.?
question #3 how do i know which rom is compatible etc etc the page of the original rom is soo detailed its like im lost to find the download file but i figured it out that i am looking to get magldr file but still the compatibility with north american htc hd2 and etc etc.

naifs_br10 said:
bro thanks alot for your help i have a few questions and conerns since i have read most of the guides and im nothing but confused cause im just looking to do a nandroid install on my htc through magldr.
i have installed hspl and the radio.
question#1) radio .50 and above that you install what differences are there and how can you tell ?
question#2 i am using hd2 android nand toolkit cause i used to have SGS vibrant and i used a similar tool kit which makes your life so so so so so easy cant thank god enough for that. so can i just use that and keep running and gunning my htc hd2 down with it.?
question #3 how do i know which rom is compatible etc etc the page of the original rom is soo detailed its like im lost to find the download file but i figured it out that i am looking to get magldr file but still the compatibility with north american htc hd2 and etc etc.
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UPDATES# i have used tool kit and successfuly installed my first magldr 1.13 now i need to know how to flash the rom so if i could get some help that would be great and any recommendations for the top notch roms around here would be soo soo soo appreciated. thanks in advance.

naifs_br10 said:
UPDATES# i have used tool kit and successfuly installed my first magldr 1.13 now i need to know how to flash the rom so if i could get some help that would be great and any recommendations for the top notch roms around here would be soo soo soo appreciated. thanks in advance.
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update i have installed my first nand cm7 rom feels awesome thanks alot everybody.
any good roms or suggestions for ones with good gps and battery life ?

did you install clockworkmod. if not you should do it because all new roms need it to be installed. i'm running ndt miui right now and for the last 5 month or something like that. tried a lot of roms but battery life on miui in comparison to cm7 was a lot better for me. it also has some nice features that cm doesn't have. but you should try it on your own.
i really can recommend the ndt roms from langthan. he gives great support in his threads and the roms are fast and stable.

rauschkugl said:
did you install clockworkmod. if not you should do it because all new roms need it to be installed. i'm running ndt miui right now and for the last 5 month or something like that. tried a lot of roms but battery life on miui in comparison to cm7 was a lot better for me. it also has some nice features that cm doesn't have. but you should try it on your own.
i really can recommend the ndt roms from langthan. he gives great support in his threads and the roms are fast and stable.
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my friend if i have installed a rom already do i need to repeat the procedure again to reinstall new roms or what is it only necessary that i need to do please explain to me or forward me to a sticky so i can learn and understand i would greatly appreciate it thank you very much

naifs_br10 said:
my friend if i have installed a rom already do i need to repeat the procedure again to reinstall new roms or what is it only necessary that i need to do please explain to me or forward me to a sticky so i can learn and understand i would greatly appreciate it thank you very much
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to make a clean install you can begin from start (task 29, flash radio etc.)
but to be more practical, if you flash with the same nand partition size you can wipe data factory reset from ad recovery and you can flash new rom.
if they have different nand sizes then you just wipe data factory reset from recovery then apply new cwm partition using usb flasher, then flash new rom.
but all rom cookers recommend clean installation (including reformatting and repartitioning sd)

naifs_br10 said:
my friend if i have installed a rom already do i need to repeat the procedure again to reinstall new roms or what is it only necessary that i need to do please explain to me or forward me to a sticky so i can learn and understand i would greatly appreciate it thank you very much
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clockworkmod is for installing roms without the need of a pc. you can also backup your whole rom and restore it. so it is very usefull.
you would have to got to magldr to install it. then you can start cwm by selecting ad recovery in magldr. then cwm will start. if you want to install a rom now all you have to do is put the zip file of the rom to the root of your sd card and select install zip from sd in cwm menu. then chose your rom zip and your done. all new roms use cwm installable zips. so this is the only way to get able to use new roms.