EDIT 25.11.13
The experimental Build with the new exynos sources works fine on the S3 and improves on graphics related stuff. There are some things that are broken but I hope those issues can be ironed out.
XpLoDWilD said:
In collaboration with geecko, here's a test build with the updated graphics stuff.
======== Don't expect it to be working 100% correctly that's not the goal. This build is exclusively to get your feedback on graphics and overall performance of the ROM. It is known that Camera and video playback might be both broken partially in this build.
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GeeckoDev said:
It basically enables us to use hardware overlays, which means that the GPU has less work to do because all the compositing work is managed by fimd. Better performance (butter), lower power consumption. :good:
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If someone wants to try it out, it can be downloaded here (FOR S3 I9300 ONLY):
http://dl.omnirom.org/omni-4.4-20131119-i9300-EXPERIMENTAL-GRAPHICS.zip
EDIT 19.11.13
Samsung dropped an insignal Update for the Exynos 4412 devices which can be used with AOSP. It's hard to implement but thanks to the brilliant developers at XDA there is hope. Check this out from the Omni Thread:
Scarface1991 said:
I found those 2 interesting commits:
https://gerrit.omnirom.org/#/c/2431/
https://gerrit.omnirom.org/#/c/2436/
What's with the insignal exynos4 update? Does it actually do any good? (I would be very surprised if Samsung would actually do something positive for the developer community ^^)
And also will the second commit when implemented enable tv-out on the I9100? Will this be usable on other Exynos devices especially the I9300?
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Entropy512 said:
I have been too busy with other stuff to mess with them. In theory - actual working hwcomposer and maybe TV-out. More than 6 months after when they promised, Insignal finally dropped an update, but it proved extremely difficult to integrate at that time plus none of the "old" crew had much motivation to mess with it. Clement seems to have gained motivation and has done some great stuff so far.
The initial Insignal drop was actually for Exynos 4412 devices. 4412 and 4210 are nearly identical, main differences are regarding JPEG compression and the camera interfaces.
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GeeckoDev:
Ok, so now hwcomposer isn't complaining anymore. Screen is completely black now because fences are timing out (surfaces are ready to be displayed when the fence is firing). dmesg is full of derp, looks like Mali driver is complaining. That's another progress... getting closer
EDIT: sent a mail to three samsung developers.. who knows
EDIT2: xplodwild should release a test build for i9300 users tomorrow.
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The Test build is going to be for the I9300 but since the S2 has an almost identical SoC it's not far behind if everything works out for the I9300. It's great news and that's what we need
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Before 2013:
EDIT
Until now there was a lot of talk from Samsung but everything they released so far is useless for AOSP. They promised full availability of Exynos Source Code by the end of 2012. Let`s see if this time they can keep their promise or if it will be just talk like in the past with the eMMC Super-Brick issue.
25/10/2012 Samsung Exynos Tweets:
Yes, we are opening up HAL source code for the platform, which includes HWC, camera, gralloc, audio and light.
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Developers: Expect full availability of integrated source code for #Exynos 4 family of processors on OrigenBoard by the end of 2012!
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https://twitter.com/SamsungExynos/status/261482746101235712
Git server access will also be available to the public in Nov. 2012
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https://twitter.com/SamsungExynos/status/261483932925689856
Now let`s hope they really mean it and that they don`t open up something useless...
Nevertheless I`m glad that we accomplished something.
Samsung presentation at the Big Android BBQ:
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It seems Samsung is saying there will be sourcecode for the needed Exynos parts... I'm not sure it's everything TeamHacksung needs, ...
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... but I'm sure they'll let us know. It all sounds very promising though. First stuff should be seen in weeks, complete before 2013.
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Complete Samsung Developers Session:
This thread is the equivalent to the one in the SIII Forums and not my idea. AntonLiv92 started the thread to inform people where they can write personal concerns to Samsung, so they will release the source code and proper documentation for Exynos based devices and as you probably all know our SII is based on Samsung`s Exynos 4210 processor.
This thread will inform you people where to contact Samsung, so that we get their attention or as codeworkx said:
Originally Posted by codeworkx
If they don't know that there are a lot of users out who are pissed because of the bad exynos support, then they'll not change anything.
If 10 users are crying -> just 10 users, ignore them.
If 1000 users are crying -> ok, let's think a few minutes about it.
If 100.000 users are crying -> holy ****, we have to do something
If you stop crying, they'll stop paying attention and you've achieved nothing like in the past.
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So our goal is to get Samsung`s attention by writing as many concerns as possible of missing source code to Samsung. Of course it`s also important what you write, so it`s not just a big noob campaign asking for the Source Code. Codeworkx made a list of what is needed:
Originally Posted by codeworkx
- git repos
- commit history
- release patches if ready as single commits and not as big messed up tarballs
- up2date reference code for their video interfaces
- up2date reference camera hal to work with these interfaces
- up2date reference audio hal
- up2date reference hardwarecomposer
- patches needed for android framework (platform support)
- gralloc if possible
- maybe hdmi?
- maybe fmradio?
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You can find a done letter that you can copy and paste more down below.
Main Petition thread in the SIII Forums created by AntonLiv92:
[MISSION] Let's get some Exynos sources! - xda-developers
There is also a thread in the Galaxy Note N7000 section as well now created by androidindian:
[IMPORTANT] Make Samsung release "Exynos" sources! - xda-developers
Galaxy Note II:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=32684117#post32684117
And the AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777 section as well:
Samsung Exynos Movement(POLL ADDED) - xda-developers
German Thread regarding this issue:
http://www.android-hilfe.de/samsung...moegliche-freigabe-der-exynos-quellcodes.html
Thread on Androidforums:
http://androidforums.com/samsung-ga...1098-push-samsung-release-exynos-sources.html
Facebook group "Polite request to Samsung to release Exynos source code":
https://www.facebook.com/ExynosSourceCode
So yes we are serious about this!
HOW TO CONTACT SAMSUNG?
Via Twitter: https://twitter.com/SamsungExynos
https://twitter.com/samsungmobile
Via Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/SamsungMobile
Via Google+: https://plus.google.com/+SamsungMobile
You can write a personal letter regarding the release of the source code to:
http://opensource.samsung.com/reception/receptionSub.do?method=inquiry
If you don`t have time for writing a big letter, this is a already written one that you can copy and paste:
Requester: Enter your name.
ID (E-mail): Enter your email address.
Country: Select your country.
Inquiry Type: Select "Request for Source Codes".
Model: Enter "Samsung I9100 Galaxy S II".
Message: Copy & Paste the following...
Dear Samsung,
without a doubt you build the best phones on the market and I really enjoy using the Galaxy SII I9100 but there is a problem. A lot of people like to use mods like the popular CyanogenMod on your flagship
devices. Without the source code and proper documentation great developers like codeworkx who is a device maintainer for Samsung phones at XDA-Developers.com start to turn their back on Samsung
phones like the Galaxy SIII because they are based on the Exynos processor due to the fact that there is a lack of source code and proper documentation. Since developers are the lifeblood of Android it`s
not a good sign to see them leave to other companies who provide proper source code and documentation. Qualcomm and Texas Instruments understand that and they released their source code and
developers are using it to do great things.
With this letter I ask you to release Source code and proper documentation for the Exynos 4210 and the Exynos 4412 and in the best case it should include the following:
- git repos
- commit history
- release patches if ready as single commits and not as big messed up tarballs
- up2date reference code for their video interfaces
- up2date reference camera hal to work with these interfaces
- up2date reference audio hal
- up2date reference hardwarecomposer
- patches needed for android framework (platform support)
- gralloc if possible
- maybe hdmi?
- maybe fmradio?
Thank you for your great phones and I really hope that you will release the above stated things.
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Responses from Twitter @samsungExynos
There are other signs that this might go somewhere, since this concern is reported now on several popular Android-blogs like Androidcentral and sites like XDA Developers, which will lead to even bigger popularity on this issue.
They also contacted the CM team:
codeworkx said:
Seems you got korea's attention because of the "flooding" the community is currently doing via opensource.samsung.com. twitter, facebook and so on. They contacted us and we told them again what the community wants to have.
You know that bad press for samsung is our most effective weapon to make things changing.
So if you want to make samsung to continue paying attention, you know what to do...
Fight till you got what you want to have.
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XDA:
Samsung Aware of Exynos Documentation Issue – xda-developers
Androidcentral:
Samsung 'hears' Exynos community documentation concerns | Android Central
Sammobile:
Samsung Listens To Developer Concerns Over Missing Exynos Docs | SamMobile
Androidauthority:
Samsung acknowledges lack of documentation for Exynos SoC
Androidpit:
Exynos-Affäre: Entwickler setzen Samsung unter Druck - AndroidPIT
Sammyhub:
Samsung Investigating Exynos Documentation Issue - Sammy Hub
Tech-Gadget:
Samsung ‘hears’ Exynos community documentation concerns | Tech Gadget
Other links in the SIII thread.
Here is also a great video that summarizes this whole mess about Samsung and Exynos:
It is also recommended to tip popular news-blogs like Engadget or the Verge, so maybe they write about us and what we try to accomplish.
I thought that this thread might be a good idea, since we have one of the biggest userbases on the Android-platform.
Now you guys know what to do
Big thanks to AntonLiv92 for letting me use the contact links in my thread
Post this on the development section as well because I think it's the most visited one
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GalaxyGusta said:
Post this on the development section as well because I think it's the most visited one
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That goes totally against forum rules
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GalaxyGusta said:
Post this on the development section as well because I think it's the most visited one
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I think that this is not such a good idea because this thread has nothing to do with development directly, that`s why I posted it in the general section, which is also visited quite well I would say because of the CM10 thread etc.
How about you guys propose this as news for xda and spread the news on android news sites? And tech sites...
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karendar said:
How about you guys propose this as news for xda and spread the news on android news sites? And tech sites...
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Just did it on Engadget.com. Let`s see, maybe it`s worth a news for them.
okay I'm crying now and I hope samsung hear it and release source code ASAP. My butt getting hot waiting for it.
Samsung is responding to the SIII campaign. Lets get the SII some attention too.
http://www.talkandroid.com/135667-s...oidForums (Android News, Rumours, and Updates)
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Warren.D said:
Samsung is responding to the SIII campaign. Lets get the SII some attention too.
http://www.talkandroid.com/135667-s...oidForums (Android News, Rumours, and Updates)
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Old news
Sent from my SGS2
Actually that's what I'm afraid of, that they release the source code only for the SIII Exynos and not for the SII. But until now they haven't released anything of course but let's see, maybe if enough people cry then they hopefully will release something.
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Scarface1991 said:
Actually that's what I'm afraid of, that they release the source code only for the SIII Exynos and not for the SII. But until now they haven't released anything of course but let's see, maybe if enough people cry then they hopefully will release something.
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both the s3 and s2 use exynos 4.. so it should be fine i guess with the documentation. but let them say a yes.. they usually just keeps the hopes high and say no later. need to push them more!!
From Entropy's post in the CM10 thread they changed too many things between S3 Exynos and the S2 for it to be useful. Let's hope they release source code for both. Scarface you should make a thread in the I777 and N7000 general sections since they use the same chips and will be affected by this news or eventual developments, I'm a I777 user and only use my own ported i9100 ROMS
the audio maybe is the problem, s3 and s2 have totally differente chip...
good idea :good:
maybe we will reach it also when we ask about the camera firmware?
Just send this letter to: http://opensource.samsung.com/reception/receptionSub.do?method=inquiry
Dear Samsung,
without a doubt you build the best phones on the market and I really enjoy using the Galaxy SII I9100 but there is a problem. A lot of people like to use mods like the popular CyanogenMod on your flagship
devices. Without the source code and proper documentation great developers like codeworkx who is a device maintainer for Samsung phones at XDA-Developers.com start to turn their back on Samsung
phones like the Galaxy SIII because they are based on the Exynos processor due to the fact that there is a lack of source code and proper documentation. Since developers are the lifeblood of Android it`s
not a good sign to see them leave to other companies who provide proper source code and documentation. Qualcomm and Texas Instruments understand that and they released their source code and
developers are using it to do great things.
With this letter I ask you to release Source code and proper documentation for the Exynos 4210 and the Exynos 4412 and in the best case it should include the following:
- git repos
- commit history
- release patches if ready as single commits and not as big messed up tarballs
- up2date reference code for their video interfaces
- up2date reference camera hal to work with these interfaces
- up2date reference audio hal
- up2date reference hardwarecomposer
- patches needed for android framework (platform support)
- gralloc if possible
- maybe hdmi?
- maybe fmradio?
Thank you for your great phones and I really hope that you will release the above stated things.
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robertogl said:
the audio maybe is the problem, s3 and s2 have totally differente chip...
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For that we should spam yamaha
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asasione said:
From Entropy's post in the CM10 thread they changed too many things between S3 Exynos and the S2 for it to be useful. Let's hope they release source code for both. Scarface you should make a thread in the I777 and N7000 general sections since they use the same chips and will be affected by this news or eventual developments, I'm a I777 user and only use my own ported i9100 ROMS
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Already done by other members
I777:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1929357
Note N7000:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=32622901#post32622901
Scarface1991 said:
Already done by other members
I777:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1929357
Note N7000:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=32622901#post32622901
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Bro I've written to some major blogs like engadget verge gsmarena.. Would be lovely if you would recommend tip them as well..The more we write to them they will do a feature writeup on this.. If the major blogs write about this the impact would be larger..
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androidindian said:
Bro I've written to some major blogs like engadget verge gsmarena.. Would be lovely if you would recommend tip them as well..The more we write to them they will do a feature writeup on this.. If the major blogs write about this the impact would be larger..
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Yeah I`ve wrote Engadget already about that. Will do as well on other popular blogs. Thanks
where do i sign?
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THE PETITIONClick the above to sign
The current petition for Galaxy S users to get an ICS update from Samsung has taken on a new look, idea and plan of action. Theexel, Xriderx66, NOOB_IN_N33D and I have decided to spearhead this into a new realm. We are not alone in this. We are not the only Galaxy S users. We are not the only ones who want/need this update. Therefore the 4 of us have decided to revamp the petition to include all Galaxy S devices and not solely the Vibrant users.
Below is a copy of how the petition reads. We need your help. We want a link to this thread posted in as many XDA forums as possible and allowed. We are also wanting this to be posted in some outside forums to broaden our reach.
This is what we need from you. If you do help post in other forums, please use the standardized text in post #3. Please put in this thread where you posted it and if outside XDA, post the link. If we can get other devices on board with this, we will have a much better chance of being heard. This is our time. ICS is brand new and can be used on most of our devices. We just need them to give it to us.
Remember to post where you put yours so that we don't duplicate.
Post #2 – The Petition
Post #3 – A standardized header for posting this petition in Galaxy S forums as well as other device manufacturer forums.
Post #4 – News and References
Please keep this thread clean as it will be the point where any and all other forums will come to see our petition in the raw, as well as the direct link to it.
Thank you all for your time and respectfulness.
Spread the word.
The Petition
http://www.change.org/petitions/samsung-were-asking-you-bring-the-galaxy-s-users-an-update
Dear Sir or Madam,
We Galaxy S users would first like to take this opportunity to thank you for your commitment to excellence in your products and software. It is this type of forward thinking that will propel you further into the realm as truly one of the giants of the mobile telecommunications front-runners. It is in this assurance of merit that we ask for your time and consideration.
Recently many internet news agencies, blogs, forums,…have claimed that Samsung is reevaluating its stance on supplying Galaxy S phones with an update to the newest Android operating system platform, Ice Cream Sandwich (ICS-4.0). It is with great interest that we are monitoring this development and our intention to be on that update list.
With that being said, please allow us to give some background information as occurring over the past several months. Our main carrier for the Vibrant is T-Mobile. The Vibrant (Galaxy S) was at its release considered one of the flagship devices for both Samsung and T-Mobile. As such, many of these devices were sold to customers who in order to afford the device were required to sign a subsidized 2-year contract with T-Mobile. The Vibrant was released with the Android o/s 2.1 (Éclair) and was catapulted into the top ranks of the smartphone technology. Since then, the Vibrant has fallen into the mediocre category as technology has driven faster and further than many have expected. While the specifications of the Vibrant are comparable to that of Google’s Nexus S handset, it had not been scheduled for an upgrade at all. Only through perseverance did it receive the Froyo (2.2) o/s, only to be provided news accounts that the Gingerbread (2.3) o/s would not be delivered to our handset. Needless to say, we were happy with our upgrade; however the fact that without an upgrade to Gingerbread (which our handset supposedly has the optimization needed), we the end-users were, to our dismay, essentially stranded at that point.
As we all know, the Android operating system is open source, meaning that the kernel developed for Android falls under a General Public License (G.P.L.) which allows many developers to create their own custom ROMs, freely and openly. This very business savvy approach is one of the things that many end-users absolutely love about Android. It is also why the Android smartphone is one of the fastest developing, most customizable and highly regarded devices in recent history. Recently the CyanogenMod team has dropped its support for our device due to a potentially dangerous development regarding the 911/e911 issues in the code for the device. (see articles at CNET, Engadget and PCWorld) Being open source does not mean the proprietary files are to be divulged. And we understand that. One of the reasons that CyanogenMod team decided to drop support for the Vibrant is because it could not get the source from Samsung directly to alleviate the 911/e911 issue and in good conscience they decided that they could not endorse a product that had potentially fatal implications. We applaud them however we are a bit unnerved as well because we were dropped, yet again.
A custom ROM is not what we are looking for with this petition. What we are looking for is your consideration and hopefully favorable decision to provide the many Galaxy S users with a reliable, safe, state-of-the-art device that will rival any of its competitors. Since many of us are still locked into the subsidized contracts, simply purchasing a new handset is not an option for many of us.
We thank you for your time, patience and exceedingly high quality of product, support and technology.
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***The issue with the 3rd paragraph about how the Vibrant was released with 2.1 and then we fought for 2.2 only to be denied GB/ICS is in there to paint the picture of how consumer support has failed. It is specific to the Vibrant but the picture is for all Galaxy S users.
The CM team portion leaving the Vibrant is a problem (911/e911) that effects us all. For some reason they just dropped ONLY the Vibrant from their supported devices list b/c of this issue.
Galaxy S Devices - A standardize copy/paste to appear in the Galaxy S forums’ General category. It needs to have a direct link to this thread, as well as the petition itself.
As Galaxy S owners, we are all united. As Android users we are all united. As far as Samsung is concerned we are all NOT created equal. Our device, the Vibrant (SGH-T959), is now being left to the wayside for any future updates from Samsung even though our core specs are extremely similar to the Google Nexus S, which has already received the ICS update. The CyanogenMod team has left us due to the on-going issue of 911/e911 and the lack of the proper code from Samsung to alleviate a potentially fatal result of a custom ROM. It is our intentions to serve Samsung with a petition asking for the update to ICS, which will in-turn, alleviate the 911/e911 issue as well.
We are asking all Galaxy S users to sign this petition to get Samsung to reconsider giving all top end Galaxy S devices the ICS update. Please help us with our goal and sign the petition. If you are on a Galaxy S phone, this affects you too.
Thank you for reading this and please see this link for more details and this link to sign the petition.
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Non Galaxy S Devices - Now this one is tricky. Many times spouses, girl/boyfriends, roommates may have different phones than yourself. There is nothing wrong with that. Chances are that whatever device they do have, there is a forum for it. This is the canned response for any non-Galaxy S type phone, as well as non-Samsung devices. If you decide to enlist other manufactures, please post this exact verbiage and links directly to this page (**Not the petition itself, as we don’t want any accidental signatures **).
We have all decided to purchase a phone running on the Android operating system. It is in this choice that we are now linked. Our device manufacturer has left us behind. Recently they (Samsung) has let it be known that they will be willing to reconsider updating all Galaxy S devices to Ice Cream Sandwich (ICS). Most of our devices never received the Gingerbread update and while our development community is packed with talented individuals and teams, they lack the necessary code for some such basic functions as 911/e911 (the CyanogenMod team has dropped the Samsung Vibrant from its list of supported devices, indefinitely due to the potentially fatal 911/e911 issue).
Below is a link to a petition that we are asking Android users to sign. This petition to get Samsung to reconsider giving all top end Galaxy S devices the ICS update. Please help us with our goal and sign the petition. As Android users we all are, we are asking you to unite with us in our journey and goal.
Thank you for reading this and please see this link (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1427969) for more details.
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News and References
Cnet - http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57343479-93/for-samsung-vibrant-no-911-means-no-android-mod/
Engadget – http://www.engadget.com/2011/12/16/cyanogenmod-team-bails-on-samsung-vibrant-cites-inability-to-di/
PCworld - http://www.pcworld.com/article/2463...ant_support_citing_inability_to_dial_911.html
Android Central - http://www.androidcentral.com/no-samsung-ics-value-pack-coming
Click and Read parts 1(why we won’t get it) and 3 (who does and who doesn’t).
The "Nobody knows what the hell's going on with the Galaxy S and Galaxy Tab," saga continues today (see Part 1 and Part 2, Part 3) with the latest news now being that Samsung has no intentions of delivering a "Value Pack" upgrade. According to a Samsung source who spoke to The Next Web:
Samsung "will not offer the update due to the hardware specifications of the older Galaxy devices, in that they are limited to and fully optimised for the Gingerbread experience."
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That'll likely frustrate some Galaxy S owners but realistically, it's not in anyway surprising. As for the Galaxy Tab, while it's not mentioned specifically -- it's safe to assume that's lumped in there as well. Luckily, there is plenty of custom ROM's floating around to keep you busy if you're that upset over the matter.
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Possible Death Blows
Huffington Post - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/04/samsung-galaxy-s-ice-cream-sandwich_n_1183578.html
ComputerWorld - http://blogs.computerworld.com/19513/samsung_galaxy_s_ice_cream_sandwich?source=rss_blogs
Links to Samsung Twitter/Facebook/Google+:
Twitter:
- twitter.com/samsungtweets
- twitter.com/samsungmobileus
- https://twitter.com/SamsungJohn
- https://twitter.com/DigitalTrends
Facebook:
- www.facebook.com/SamsungUSA
- www.facebook.com/SamsungMobileUSA
Google+:
- https://plus.google.com/114303379611712597260/posts
Posted in main XDA-General Forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21141472#post21141472
Android Police -
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...nlock-and-more/comment-page-1/#comment-165787
Phandroid.com/ - submitted request as News Tips. Just waiting on email confirmation from them. Once I get that, I will post the link.
Seanknighton posted in the HTC EVO 4G thread and they are running with it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1431851
Nabeel10 posted in Wiihacks
http://www.wiihacks.com/android-phon...r-support.html
Taxiozaurus Posted in AndroidPit forum
http://www.androidpit.com/en/android...dwitch#p931894
Plus they put us on the News Page with a pretty good endorsement
http://www.androidpit.com/en/android/blog/402147/samsung-galaxy-s-android-update
I-9000 just got the Value-Pack leaked yesterday (1/6/12). Here is the link.
We've got their attention!!!!
From the Epic 4G thread
Zeinzu said:
Samsung keeps removing my wall posts about it this.
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flastnoles11 said:
Mine to... I'm gonna keep putting them up until they get tired of taking theem down
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Remember to post where you put yours so that we don't duplicate.
As of 1/5/2012 all active Recognized Vibrant Developers should have received a letter from me about this petition. Hopefully they will help in promoting the awareness of our petition by adding a notice to the top of their thread OP's. So if you find that your favorite rom or kernel thread is containing a big red notice with a link to this thread please show them some appreciation and hit their thanks button...
Here's a list of developer supporters -
nickmcminn60
miui-us
neobuddy98 (Didn't post the banner, but he does have a link to the petition in his ICS thread)
> Petition Status: 3,341+ SIGNATURES <________________
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MY GUIDE'S:
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Good job you guys, this is excellent! Ill be sure to help the best I can!
SO SHOULD YOU! Yeah I'm talking to you, the one who just read this thread and ignored it. Just do it
Sent from my Vibrant
WHERE PETITION HAS BEEN POSTED
POSTED IN ALL GALAXY S FORUMS:
Captivate
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21030486#post21030486
Epic 4G
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21030502#post21030502
Fascinate
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21030513#post21030513
Galaxy S I9000
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21030530#post21030530
Galaxy S 4G (or Vibrant +) (thanks to n00b)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21148623#post21148623
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Posted in Evo: (thanks to seanknighton)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1431851
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Good stufff
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Last I checked we are at 810. Thread was getting pushed down on page, so this is a bump too sort of.
Actually, there are 950+ as of now! (Keeping track of the signatures in my post on the first page ). Also this thread should be stickied.
N00B_IN_N33D said:
Actually, there are 858 as of now! (Keeping track of the signatures in my post on the first page ). Also this thread should be stickied...
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I added my name to the list...
Still wonder why Samsung likes to say it won't run, when clearly it does. they should just dump touchwiz.
signed
Been flashing since Axura, happy to sign, Vibrant needs to be shown more love.
We need to get this viral!
I was at the local library and got like 8 people to sign. Haha
Holy crap we reached 903! ★___★
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Just wanted to say...signed
Deleted this post since thread was moved and combined with another.
Department of Redundancy Department
Here is the link to the Evo thread I started
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1431851
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Hi, a developer called pulser_g2 developer called codeworx made this petition for Samsung to be more open and be a lot more developer friendly, this petition is for all Samsung android devices, not just the s2. So I thought I would post it here in the hope a few of you may consider singing it please
http://www.change.org/petitions/sam...t-achieve-full-potential-of-purchased-devices
Thank you
Edit: Sorry I made a mistake, the developer Codeworx just heavily promoted the petition, pulser_g2 is the developer who made it, and thanks entropy512 for pointing the mistake out
danielsf said:
Hi, on the galaxy s2 forum, the cm9 developer called codeworx made this petition for Samsung to be more open and be a lot more developer friendly, this petition is for all Samsung android devices, not just the s2. So I thought I would post it here in the hope a few of you may consider singing it please
http://www.change.org/petitions/sam...t-achieve-full-potential-of-purchased-devices
Thank you
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Actually pulser_g2 created it - codeworkx is just pushing it hard. (he deserves to as he's the one maintaining CM9...)
Also consider pestering them on Twitter:
https://twitter.com/#!/search/users/samsung
Signed
10char
Im hoping the lack of posts in this thread just means people arent commenting in this thread but have signed the petition
I submitted this as a tip for the portal page, hopefully it gets picked up, since being on the portal would generate more interest in this
DT3CH said:
Im hoping the lack of posts in this thread just means people arent commenting in this thread but have signed the petition
I submitted this as a tip for the portal page, hopefully it gets picked up, since being on the portal would generate more interest in this
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Only reason it's not on the portal is because pulser forgot his portal password (He even said so elsewhere.)
(This petition was filed by one of our senior moderator team.)
I haven't signed yet, but that is because I plan on writing a fairly decent bit on why cooperating with developers will benefit Samsung in my "Reason" field and need a bit more time.
signed!
10char
signed
Signed.
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IMO, in this day when manufacturers are locking down devices and intentionally making it very difficult for any development, Samsung has really catered to this small community. Companies like Motorola go as far as sabotaging their products to prevent any type hacking, rooting etc.
Sure, Samsung's official software upgrades are slow but I give them a lot of credit for reaching out in ways such as offering some of our top developers free devices.
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Only reason it's not on the portal is because pulser forgot his portal password (He even said so elsewhere.)
(This petition was filed by one of our senior moderator team.)
I haven't signed yet, but that is because I plan on writing a fairly decent bit on why cooperating with developers will benefit Samsung in my "Reason" field and need a bit more time.
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LOL shows you what I know
Dont know any of the mods here
Joe T said:
IMO, in this day when manufacturers are locking down devices and intentionally making it very difficult for any development, Samsung has really catered to this small community. Companies like Motorola go as far as sabotaging their products to prevent any type hacking, rooting etc.
Sure, Samsung's official software upgrades are slow but I give them a lot of credit for reaching out in ways such as offering some of our top developers free devices.
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The problem is they have, over time, become increasingly antagonistic to platform developers.
They are now failing to comply with the GPL with kernel source for many devices on a regular basis. The Infuse AT&T update took a month for source to show up, and Samsung ignored multiple requests for source in compliance with the GPL. The one time they answered, they claimed that they didn't have to provide source because they had stopped providing the update - that's bull****. If you provide a binary to someone, you MUST provide them the source - even if you are no longer providing binaries to other people.
They go out of their way to avoid releasing source whenever possible - see the AR6000 driver fiasco on the Tab 7 Plus.
The Galaxy S II hardware donation to the Cyanogenmod team was nothing but a PR stunt. If you follow the progress of CM9 on the I9100, you'll see that in addition to not providing any assistance to codeworkx and xplodwild, they are actively throwing barriers in the way. For example, secure containers (used by many apps) are disabled if a custom kernel is used in ICS.
Compare this to Sony, who provided technical assistance to the Cyanogenmod team leading to their entire 2011 lineup being well supported by CM, and also open-sourcing their sensor HALs when they didn't need to. They have also provided OFFICIAL ICS alphas and betas including source in compliance with the GPL, while everyone else just has leaks.
Unless Samsung changes their attitude - my next phone will be a Sony or a Nexus of some sort.
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The problem is they have, over time, become increasingly antagonistic to platform developers.....
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Wow, I didn't realize all of that. As a GNex owner, I suppose I'm looking at things through rose colored glasses. I thought they changed a lot since the Froyogate fiasco which they received a lot of bad press. Thanks for the info, petition signed!
Signed
Especially since I have 2 Samsung devices currently
Entropy512 said:
The problem is they have, over time, become increasingly antagonistic to platform developers.
They are now failing to comply with the GPL with kernel source for many devices on a regular basis. The Infuse AT&T update took a month for source to show up, and Samsung ignored multiple requests for source in compliance with the GPL. The one time they answered, they claimed that they didn't have to provide source because they had stopped providing the update - that's bull****. If you provide a binary to someone, you MUST provide them the source - even if you are no longer providing binaries to other people.
They go out of their way to avoid releasing source whenever possible - see the AR6000 driver fiasco on the Tab 7 Plus.
The Galaxy S II hardware donation to the Cyanogenmod team was nothing but a PR stunt. If you follow the progress of CM9 on the I9100, you'll see that in addition to not providing any assistance to codeworkx and xplodwild, they are actively throwing barriers in the way. For example, secure containers (used by many apps) are disabled if a custom kernel is used in ICS.
Compare this to Sony, who provided technical assistance to the Cyanogenmod team leading to their entire 2011 lineup being well supported by CM, and also open-sourcing their sensor HALs when they didn't need to. They have also provided OFFICIAL ICS alphas and betas including source in compliance with the GPL, while everyone else just has leaks.
Unless Samsung changes their attitude - my next phone will be a Sony or a Nexus of some sort.
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very well said
Done
Thanks for the info...
Everything to help the devs...
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signed.. hope this petition will do something
Joe T said:
IMO, in this day when manufacturers are locking down devices and intentionally making it very difficult for any development, Samsung has really catered to this small community. Companies like Motorola go as far as sabotaging their products to prevent any type hacking, rooting etc.
Sure, Samsung's official software upgrades are slow but I give them a lot of credit for reaching out in ways such as offering some of our top developers free devices.
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I totally agree.I would like Sammy to be more open, like Sony, but I understand they are a company and they have certain policies which will increase their profits...Since my tab has unlocked bootloader and I can flash anything I want I'm ok.
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Signed.... suggest you do also...
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signed........let us know how it goes
Signed. Glad to see this.
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From: Ronnie Ryan Calumpang
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: BCM 21553
I Would Like To Know More About This Device
Drivers
Sources
Frequency Tables
Its for Galaxy Y Kernel Development
They Replied
Hi Ronnie,
Thank you for your inquiry. Broadcom Corporation licenses s/w to many 3rd party companies, who bundle our software with their devices. Unfortunately, some of them leave our support information in the software dialogs instead of replacing it with their own.
Each OEM provides vendor specific drivers for their particular device; therefore Broadcom cannot supply software upgrades. Our off-the-shelf versions of software would be unlikely to work with most OEM devices.
Please contact the manufacturer of your device to obtain software/upgrades.
Thanks Ferde
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Who do we really need to contact? Samsung or Broadcomm?
Edit :
Samsungs Reply :
Dear Mr. Calumpang,
Samsung Namaskar!!
Thank you for showing interest in our Brand Samsung and contacting our CEO’s Office.
We are in receipt of your proposal where you have shown interest to be associated with Samsung.
We are forwarding your proposal for developing the Galaxy Y kernel with need of drivers, datasheets,IP tables from our side ,to the concerned department.
The responsible department will get in touch with you after reviewing your proposal and as per the requirement of the company.
Thanking you and assuring you of our best services always.
With warm Regards,
CEO’s Office
Samsung India Electronics Pvt. Ltd.
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ronnieryan said:
From: Ronnie Ryan Calumpang
therefore Broadcom cannot supply software upgrades. Our off-the-shelf versions of software would be unlikely to work with most OEM devices.
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hay Ronnie forward it to Samsung & see what happen or what they say on it
maxsan20 said:
hay Ronnie forward it to Samsung & see what happen or what they say on it
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As he said
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Yep that is what you should do forward it to samsung and see what happens
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I think you failed using the word "drivers"... most people, including the one who answered, only can think of Windows drivers.
Try asking for the datasheet or implementation notes.
Don t put "samsung" or "drivers" in your request.
"research for building a new product" is one option, but try to be vague, like it's something you are not allowed to talk about.
Just my 2 cents.
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if you ask about the gpu and another device propietary driver, its broadcomm. for the kernel stuff, its samsung. there are already a lot of request about the source code both for broadcomm and samsung. make a global petition might be a good idea. samsung have released more device using broadcomm chip so that we don't have to worry about how many people will support our act.
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if you ask about the gpu and another device propietary driver, its broadcomm. for the kernel stuff, its samsung. there are already a lot of request about the source code both for broadcomm and samsung. make a global petition might be a good idea. samsung have released more device using broadcomm chip so that we don't have to worry about how many people will support our act.
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Make a global petition
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Samsungs Latest Reply:
Dear Mr. Calumpang,
Samsung Namaskar!!
Thank you for showing interest in our Brand Samsung and contacting our CEO’s Office.
We are in receipt of your proposal where you have shown interest to be associated with Samsung.
We are forwarding your proposal for developing the Galaxy Y kernel with need of drivers, datasheets,IP tables from our side ,to the concerned department.
The responsible department will get in touch with you after reviewing your proposal and as per the requirement of the company.
Thanking you and assuring you of our best services always.
With warm Regards,
CEO’s Office
Samsung India Electronics Pvt. Ltd.
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don't waste your time. samsung can't release without broadcom approval. broadcom will give you only if you buy their chip in big quantity (let say 5 digit number). no mater what your reason, they won't give you. look here for example.
This implementation uses a different kernel and VideoCore binary image from the one available on GitHub, which is why we’ve been keeping quiet about it so far. We’re investigating the feasibility of converging the two code lines to produce a single common platform as soon as we can, at which point we hope to release the sources for you to play with.
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even raspberry pi which is support open source can't release their android kernel source.
This Phones Future Looks Dark, anyway will be saving money for another device:good:
But still hopes up
ronnieryan said:
This Phones Future Looks Dark, anyway will be saving money for another device:good:
But still hopes up
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don't give up!
I remember when I started using Linux back in 1992 and we can't read NTFS drives... not so long ago, in linux we didn't have wireless drivers, so someone invented ndiswrapper...
If broadcomm doesn't release the data, someone will reverse-engineer it, or find another way to make it work, just like whitexp, squadzone and nanosurfer are doing with cm7.
UnNegroFeo said:
don't give up!
I remember when I started using Linux back in 1992 and we can't read NTFS drives... not so long ago, in linux we didn't have wireless drivers, so someone invented ndiswrapper...
If broadcomm doesn't release the data, someone will reverse-engineer it, or find another way to make it work, just like whitexp, squadzone and nanosurfer are doing with cm7.
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i hope so...reverse engineering will be the last hope for SGY:good:
Same with me!
ronnieryan said:
This Phones Future Looks Dark, anyway will be saving money for another device:good:
But still hopes up
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I will also start saving for new phone!
If Samsung's answer is evasive must generate a global request where a high percentage of those who possess the SGY as quoted in another thread. I hope it is.
Anyone pls start a petition. We can send it to samsung when alot of people sign for it.
hell_lock said:
Anyone pls start a petition. We can send it to samsung when alot of people sign for it.
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A petition is easy, but first let us discuss the Contents of the petition and the main points of our petition must be strong
Our request, you can do from this site:
http://www.groubal.com/create-groubal/
The main one we need to contact is Broadcomm through the support of Samsung....even if we start a petition, it won't be heard unless an elite recognized kinda dev or some big organisation supports it.....or else they are just gonna ignore us....
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Isnt xda dev a big organisation??
We have its support
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anasdcool71 said:
The main one we need to contact is Broadcomm through the support of Samsung....even if we start a petition, it won't be heard unless an elite recognized kinda dev or some big organisation supports it.....or else they are just gonna ignore us....
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They can't ignore us like that. If its a good company then it will abide to our the demands or come to a solution agreed by both the parties. Else I will boycott their products... btw my whole family has samsung phones
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This thread is the equivalent on the SIII and SII Forums and not my idea. AntonLiv92 and scarface1991 started the thread to inform people where they can write personal concerns to Samsung, so they will release the source code and proper documentation for Exynos based devices and as you probably all know our Note is based on Samsung`s Exynos 4210 processor.
So as you know the Galaxy Note contains the Exynos 4 chip, which Samsung doesn't provide any up2date documentation of. What they release is kernel source, and a few parts of the platform source that aren't actually modified or really critical. In short, everything in the Platform tarball is stuff that is already in AOSP, and the AOSP version works fine. So our goal is to convince Samsung to release the documentation and sources for the Exynos chip that the developers need so much.
* You are welcome to join the "Polite request to Samsung to release Exynos source code" FB page:
https://www.facebook.com/ExynosSourceCode
Write a request to Samsung asking them to provide proper documentation for the Exynos SoC:
https://twitter.com/SamsungExynos
https://twitter.com/samsungmobile
https://www.facebook.com/SamsungMobile
https://plus.google.com/+SamsungMobile
It is also highly recommended to create inquiry in the OSRC:
http://opensource.samsung.com/reception/receptionSub.do?method=inquiry
Hope it works! :fingers-crossed:
The Thread in the Forums will inform you people where to contact Samsung, so that we get their attention or as codeworkx said:
Originally Posted by codeworkx
If they don't know that there are a lot of users out who are pissed because of the bad exynos support, then they'll not change anything.
If 10 users are crying -> just 10 users, ignore them.
If 1000 users are crying -> ok, let's think a few minutes about it.
If 100.000 users are crying -> holy ****, we have to do something
If you stop crying, they'll stop paying attention and you've achieved nothing like in the past.
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So our goal is to get Samsung`s attention by writing as many concerns as possible of missing source code to Samsung. Of course it`s also important what you write, so it`s not just a big noob campaign asking for the Source Code. Codeworkx made a list of what is needed:
Originally Posted by codeworkx
- git repos
- commit history
- release patches if ready as single commits and not as big messed up tarballs
- up2date reference code for their video interfaces
- up2date reference camera hal to work with these interfaces
- up2date reference audio hal
- up2date reference hardwarecomposer
- patches needed for android framework (platform support)
- gralloc if possible
- maybe hdmi?
- maybe fmradio?
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and Entropy512 tweeted to Samsung exynos about:
@Entropy512
@SamsungExynos You have been discussing this for over a year with no results... TI and Qualcomm are setting the standard, you are failing.
@Entropy512
@SamsungExynos For more specifics on my last tweet: TI has omapzoom, Qualcomm has CodeAurora, you have nothing.
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There are other signs that this might go somewhere, since this concern is reported now on several popular Android-blogs like Androidcentral and sites like XDA Developers, which will lead to even bigger popularity on this issue.
They also contacted the CM team:
Originally Posted by codeworkx
Seems you got korea's attention because of the "flooding" the community is currently doing via opensource.samsung.com. twitter, facebook and so on. They contacted us and we told them again what the community wants to have.
You know that bad press for samsung is our most effective weapon to make things changing.
So if you want to make samsung to continue paying attention, you know what to do...
Fight till you got what you want to have.
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In the Media:
On xda-developers.com
On pocketnow.com
On androidcentral.com
On androidnext.de (Translated vesrion here)
I thought that this thread might me a good idea, since we have one of the biggest userbases on the Android-platform.
Now you guys know what to do
Nice. Tomorrow I'll hit them with everything I've got.
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Beretta93 said:
Nice. Tomorrow I'll hit them with everything I've got.
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Awesome.. Let's do it! The more we do the better.. Btw samsungexynos is really getting it from the community via twitter and facebook.
And @Entropy512 has written lots of strong tweets to them.. Let's support our devs more!
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Good initiative
I am in
This thread deserves a little bump.
C'mon people, take part in this, it is of vital importance.:good:
Great work
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chasmodo said:
This thread deserves a little bump.
C'mon people, take part in this, it is of vital importance.:good:
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Totally! Lets do this! If we want future builds of android , aosp and cm support.. lets get together..
Stand your ground and fight!
Did yesterday and today, let's keep'em on fire.
Great! :good:
Thread in the SII section: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1929188
Thread in the SIII section: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1925709
I really like how popular this thing gets. Let`s do this people, let`s make this as popular as we can. Great developers like codeworkx and Entropy512 tried it more than once to ask politely for this and Samsung did nothing. They wouldn`t even listen about the serious hard brick kernel bug and they still bringing out unsafe kernels. Now it`s our turn to make them to listen.
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Just send this letter to: http://opensource.samsung.com/reception/receptionSub.do?method=inquiry
Dear Samsung,
without a doubt you build the best phones on the market and I really enjoy using the Galaxy SII I9100 but there is a problem. A lot of people like to use mods like the popular CyanogenMod on your flagship
devices. Without the source code and proper documentation great developers like codeworkx who is a device maintainer for Samsung phones at XDA-Developers.com start to turn their back on Samsung
phones like the Galaxy SIII because they are based on the Exynos processor due to the fact that there is a lack of source code and proper documentation. Since developers are the lifeblood of Android it`s
not a good sign to see them leave to other companies who provide proper source code and documentation. Qualcomm and Texas Instruments understand that and they released their source code and
developers are using it to do great things.
With this letter I ask you to release Source code and proper documentation for the Exynos 4210 and the Exynos 4412 and in the best case it should include the following:
- git repos
- commit history
- release patches if ready as single commits and not as big messed up tarballs
- up2date reference code for their video interfaces
- up2date reference camera hal to work with these interfaces
- up2date reference audio hal
- up2date reference hardwarecomposer
- patches needed for android framework (platform support)
- gralloc if possible
- maybe hdmi?
- maybe fmradio?
Thank you for your great phones and I really hope that you will release the above stated things.
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ahalford said:
Did yesterday and today, let's keep'em on fire.
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Awesome!
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I'm in ,let the games begin.....
Of course I'm in. But do they really care about a handful (thousands) of geeks, flashing custom ROMs, compared to millions of sales ?
I hope they'll do.
Cheers, Markus
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Thanks mate!
Yes that is there automated response. Community members are messaging them on that site, and twitter constantly..
Done.
Come on ppl. Be a sport.
Dear Samsung,
This is another request for the release of the source code and proper documentation for the Exynos processors that are currently powering your high end devices. As many of your clients, I choose my smartphones on the basis of their popularity among the developers community, as they have been able to provide high end support for a long time and keep them running smoothly with
the most up-to-date software.
This support does not cost you anything, as you are not paying high skilled programmers to work countless hours on fine tuning and further improving your products. I personally think you are getting a great deal, for little effort on your side.
In order for this to be able to continue and further improve, I would kindly request (as many have already done) if you could speed up your promises and finally release:
Originally Posted by codeworkx:
- git repos
- commit history
- release patches if ready as single commits and not as big messed up tarballs
- up2date reference code for their video interfaces
- up2date reference camera hal to work with these interfaces
- up2date reference audio hal
- up2date reference hardwarecomposer
- patches needed for android framework (platform support)
- gralloc if possible
- maybe hdmi?
- maybe fmradio?
I hope you will not make the same mistake as other manufacturers, that turned their back on the developers community and their sales results suffered as a result of doing that. And as a currently satisfied customer of a Galaxy Note (GT-N7000) I am looking forward to the JB (Android 4.1) update .
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This is my post on their Facebook page, lets hope they'll do something about it .
Thank you for letting me know about this initiative.
Johev, well said--> quote: "I hope you will not make the same mistake as other manufacturers, that turned their back on the developers community and their sales results suffered as a result of doing that."
They do not want sales suffered as HTC, so maybe we will success.
Great Idea!
Did my bit!
Also made a twitter account just to tweet to them
Will do this again tommorow
GG...
Also wrote on their fb wall
Hope theyll listen? *fingers crossed*
Hi androidindian, do you mind if i copy your thread to Note 2 forum? ill give you credit fully...
I just want to spread the wprd but im not very good with my words
Hope you wont mind
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Like the threads started in S II, S III, and Note N7000 forums, im starting a thread here.
It was originally the idea of AntonLiv92 and scarface1991, carried forward by androidindian to inform people that they can make Samsung release their source codes for Exynos-devices...
i am just carrying the message forward, you can spread the idea in other forums
How can you help?
By joining the "Polite request to Samsung to release Exynos Source Codes".
Here:
* FB page:https://www.facebook.com/ExynosSourceCode
Or by writing to their twitter account:
https://twitter.com/samsungexynos
You can also create an inquiry in the OSRC, which is highly recommended
http://opensource.samsung.com/reception/receptionSub.do?method=inquiry
You are highly recommended to spread this word im other forums, so that wordpower increases
As said by codeworkx
Originally Posted by codeworkx:
If they don't know that there are a lot of users out who are pissed because of the bad exynos support, then they'll not change anything.If 10 users are crying -> just 10 users, ignore them.If 1000 users are crying -> ok, let's think a few minutes about it.If 100.000 users are crying -> holy ****, we have to do somethingIf you stop crying, they'll stop paying attention and you've achieved nothing like in the past.
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It is also inportant to know what we are asking Samsung, so it's not just a big noob campaign with no wind.
Codeworkx has highlighted the specifics so you can get them:
Originally Posted by codeworkx
- git repos
- commit history
- release patches if ready as single commits and not as big messed up tarballs
- up2date reference code for their video interfaces
- up2date reference camera hal to work with these interfaces
- up2date reference audio hal
- up2date reference hardwarecomposer
- patches needed for android framework (platform support)
- gralloc if possible
- maybe hdmi?
- maybe fmradio?
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We can confirm to you that its not just a fruitless campaign.
Entropy tweeted this to SamsungExynos:
@Entropy512
@SamsungExynos You have been discussing this for over a year with no results... TI and Qualcomm are setting the standard, you are failing.
@Entropy512
@SamsungExynos For more specifics on my last tweet: TI has omapzoom, Qualcomm has CodeAurora, you have nothing.
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This is reply Entropy512 got:
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This may actually go somewhere be sure to give your support so you can have better custom ROMs and much better mobile phones overall...
They also contacted the CM team:
Originally Posted by codeworkx
Seems you got korea's attention because of the "flooding" the community is currently doing via opensource.samsung.com. twitter, facebook and so on. They contacted us and we told them again what the community wants to have.You know that bad press for samsung is our most effective weapon to make things changing.So if you want to make samsung to continue paying attention, you know what to do...Fight till you got what you want to have.
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IN THE MEDIA:
on xda-developers
on pocketnow.com
on androidcentral.com
on androidnext.de --->translated version here
This thread in S III section: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1929188
This thread in S II section: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1929188
This thread in Note I section: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1929307
For convenience, Scarface1991 made a letter:
Just sent this to http://opensource.samsung.com/reception/receptionSub.do?method=inquiry
Dear Samsung,
without a doubt you build the best phones on the market and I really enjoy using the Galaxy SII I9100 but there is a problem. A lot of people like to use mods like the popular CyanogenMod on your flagship*devices. Without the source code and proper documentation great developers like codeworkx who is a device maintainer for Samsung phones at XDA-Developers.com start to turn their back on Samsung*phones like the Galaxy SIII because they are based on the Exynos processor due to the fact that there is a lack of source code and proper documentation. Since developers are the lifeblood of Android it`s*not a good sign to see them leave to other companies who provide proper source code and documentation. Qualcomm and Texas Instruments understand that and they released their source code and*developers are using it to do great things.
With this letter I ask you to release Source code and proper documentation for the Exynos 4210 and the Exynos 4412 and in the best case it should include the following:
- git repos
- commit history
- release patches if ready as single commits and not as big messed up tarballs
- up2date reference code for their video interfaces
- up2date reference camera hal to work with these interfaces
- up2date reference audio hal
- up2date reference hardwarecomposer
- patches needed for android framework (platform support)
- gralloc if possible
- maybe hdmi?
- maybe fmradio?
Thank you for your great phones and I really hope that you will release the above stated things.
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Android blogs and samsung blogs now posting this more and more..
http://bit.ly/SNy5jU (sammyhub)
http://allaboutsamsung.de/2012/10/sa...os-quellcodes/ (allaboutsamsung)
http://www.sammobile.com/2012/10/10/...g-exynos-docs/ (sammobile)
http://rootzwiki.com/news/_/articles...pr-stunt-r1176 (rootzwiki)
http://www.androidauthority.com/sams...issues-121487/ (android authority)
(Courtesy androidindian)
:good good:
Things are getting very exciting *rubs hands and fingers crossed*
also mate, do post their twitter account https://twitter.com/samsungexynos on the op. anyone who has twitter should write to them
androidindian said:
also mate, do post their twitter account https://twitter.com/samsungexynos on the op. anyone who has twitter should write to them
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androidindian said:
also mate, do post their twitter account https://twitter.com/samsungexynos on the op. anyone who has twitter should write to them
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thanks for the link, i don't have facebook, but i have sent them a tweet now. everyone should do so!
I have a question. I clearly don't have full idea how it works in terms of open source license.
Is this a requirement from Samsung (or any other vendor) that they release information regarding Exynos chip? They are supposed to release kernel sources, does the license also state that all hardware/driver related information also have to be released. Because, if this is not something mandatory, no amount of petition is going to change anything.
I doubt it will help much, but I did the facebook, twitter, and OSRC bit. I highly doubt anything comes of this though...except more frustration.
hot_spare said:
I have a question. I clearly don't have full idea how it works in terms of open source license.
Is this a requirement from Samsung (or any other vendor) that they release information regarding Exynos chip? They are supposed to release kernel sources, does the license also state that all hardware/driver related information also have to be released. Because, if this is not something mandatory, no amount of petition is going to change anything.
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No, Samsung doesn`t have to release anything of what we ask if they don`t want to (like they did in the past) but it would hurt their reputation when it comes to developers. Of course people who have no idea about Root and CyanogenMod will still buy their phones but people like Codeworkx and other great developers will eventually start to move on to other developer-friendly devices and as a reaction to that other people will do that too. I know for myself that I won`t buy another Exynos powered device if Samsung doesn`t change it`s attitude soon.
Sent.
@SamsungExynos Please release Source code and proper documentation for the Exynos 4210 and the Exynos 4412 (and future 5xxx when available)
Here's hoping they'll listen...
tstack77 said:
Sent.
@SamsungExynos Please release Source code and proper documentation for the Exynos 4210 and the Exynos 4412 (and future 5xxx when available)
Here's hoping they'll listen...
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great thanks!
tstack77 said:
Sent.
@SamsungExynos Please release Source code and proper documentation for the Exynos 4210 and the Exynos 4412 (and future 5xxx when available)
Here's hoping they'll listen...
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Sent pretty much the same as well
Sent today too made a twittrr account just to tweet
Looks like Note 2 will never be getting support from CM. Step 1 to frustration.
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Been looking and getting ready to buy the note 2 but i guess i have to hold off and look for some other good alternatives maybe the next nexus or pad phone 2 or an HTC. No cyanogenmod or aosp support,no exynos device for me a gs2 owner
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just commenting so more people know about the petition
the most relevant samsung twitter account for us
https://twitter.com/samsung_dev
https://twitter.com/AntonLiv92/status/269749477856903168
Note II owners, are you with us?
I was going to start a thread like this myself, but then I saw yours
I soooo want Samsung to release the kernel source code .
Corey
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i have tweeted and send request for taking part in this. Thanks.