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Movies on Xoom

Already, I was able to use Double twist to get my music off of iTunes and into my Xoom, that was pretty simple, and all is well.
I am going on vacation next Sunday, and I am going to need some movies to watch. Typically on my iPad, I can rent or buy a movie on iTunes and simply watch it.
I need to know the following:
1. Is there anyway to get protected movies off of iTunes and into the Xoom? I would rather not spend 10 hours ripping and burning a few movies.
2. What are my choices for movie download locations? Reliable, and virus free?
3. My experience with the Xoom has been a very positive one to this point, I just need a reliable and hopefully not a time consuming method to buy/rent movies, and/or a method to get movies already purchased from iTunes into the Xoom.
Thank you!!!

I don't know if this is the advice you are lookng for but you can always "barrow" movies from the internet via a torrent or download site like filestube. Although I haven't explored it yet, I believe amazon.com has some kind of video on demand service which would be comparable to iTunes video service I suppose. But until the xoom has flash support even that isn't an option. As far as the "barrowing" method originally mentioned, I wouldn't worry about viruses. The virus would have to be written for the android operating system and I dont think you will encounter that at this stage. This of course only applies if you are going to be downloading directly through three xoom. If you plan to use your PC first then transfer to the xoom, then I guess a little concern might be warranted, as always.
But the android market does have torrent apps, so direct downloads to the xoom is a viable option. Also torrent sites like btjunkie will have reviews/comments to give you an idea whether the file does what it says it should.
Also filestube can be used directly from the xoom. As far as finding good files, generally you want to look for results that have the movie name (or sometimes its abbreviation), the year it was made, "xvid", and that it its already in a watchable format i.e avi,mp4,etc.
These tend to almost always be bonafide files. Hope this helps.
Google really needs to get media support for their devices otherwise they will always border on the line of niche geek devices.

Op, I have been trying to answer your #1 question for many months...please share if you find a way to remove drm from iTunes movies!
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I have used a torrent client on my Nook Color to download a ep of Fringe it played flawless. It was only TV HD on not 720p but looked excellent. I think it took 10 minutes for a 325 Mb file no computer needed at all. I used rock player to play it. I would expect the xoom to have no trouble doing this.

Not sure what format it uses, but the Amazon Video market has an option for downloading for use on portable devices. It does look like you would have to start the process on your computer and then transfer the files to the device, but it might be pretty easy.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/video/ontv/player/ref=atv_getstarted_player

JOHNGAETANO said:
1. Is there anyway to get protected movies off of iTunes and into the Xoom? I would rather not spend 10 hours ripping and burning a few movies.
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Stripping the DRM is something I haven't seen yet, however, on other Android forums, I've seen the program Tunebite mentioned a couple of times.
It basically records the file while it is being played on your computer (similar to what "other" drm removal tools do, but supposedly, it accesses the file differently, enabling it to run faster.
I have no experience with it myself though. I tend to stay away from those kinds of files myself.

It sure seems like there's a golden opportunity here for Amazon to be the Android equivalent of iTunes for purchases of movies, TV shows and music.

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It sure seems like there's a golden opportunity here for Amazon to be the Android equivalent of iTunes for purchases of movies, TV shows and music.
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Amazon video on demand works right from the XOOM's browser. I haven't been able to copy anything to the actual device from the service, but you can at least stream all your Amazon videos.

Why do they make it soo hard to download movies and video legally? I've had such a hard time with DRM and such, that I've had to resort to other methods to get my media on my portables. I hate this soo much, I have no problem paying for my content, but if it is harder to pay them for it, than it is to "borrow" it, then why oh why would I pay for it? I would also like to see an answer to the OP. /end rant

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Stripping the DRM is something I haven't seen yet, however, on other Android forums, I've seen the program Tunebite mentioned a couple of times.
It basically records the file while it is being played on your computer (similar to what "other" drm removal tools do, but supposedly, it accesses the file differently, enabling it to run faster.
I have no experience with it myself though. I tend to stay away from those kinds of files myself.
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A tool called requiem will remove the DRM. You're on your own to find it though.

#2 I grab my movies from tehparadox.com I have never dl'ed any viruses from that site. Plus its an active site if theirs a problem with at post ppl will always let you know before you download
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www.imp4movies.com works for me.

Read my post on what u need to know before u buy Xoom
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there's a great program called DVDCatalysts4 that encodes DVD's & Blue Ray's just great.

monkeefied said:
Why do they make it soo hard to download movies and video legally? I've had such a hard time with DRM and such, that I've had to resort to other methods to get my media on my portables. I hate this soo much, I have no problem paying for my content, but if it is harder to pay them for it, than it is to "borrow" it, then why oh why would I pay for it? I would also like to see an answer to the OP. /end rant
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I am not sure, but here in the Netherlands downloading movies is legal. Uploading is not. At this moment usenet is a excellent source especially with Spotnet. Works like a charm after the authorities closed down FTD (database of this program was in the Netherlands, but was no longer considered legal). Spotnet however is new designed and has a database on usenet itself which is impossible to shutdown.
All movies, music, series can be found there in topnotch quality and downloading goes with 12MB (that is MegaByte per second), depending on your internet account ofcourse. We in the Netherlands have a maximum of 120Mbit at this moment.
Not sure if it will also works overseas, but you could give it a try.

Amazon Cloud Music Service

Just alerting Evo owners (Android owners too) that Amazon just launched their Amazon Cloud Player and Android App. You get 5 GB for free and if you purchase a mp3 (just one will do and for .99 cents pretty cheap storage) you are automatically updated to 20 GB for one year. You can upload your existing music collection to the cloud and listen anywhere; home PC, phone, anywhere with an internet connection. It also allows you to store other files there as well (so they say but haven't checked out that option yet). There is an Android App to go with the program. No subscription fees. Pretty sweet deal if you ask me. Secures your music in case of hardware failure and has the potential to free up a lot of space on your SD card. If you want to pull your music back onto your phone to listen in a premium music player, thats doable too. Great concept and the price can't be beat. This should be especially useful to Sprint users with unlimited data plans. I uploaded 10 GB of music this morning from my computer over Wifi from home and will clean up my SD card from music I don't listen too that often. I think it's a great utility and let's you manage your own library of music pretty liberally.

When they sell flac then I'm in. Until then ill pass
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Im thinking about this but i want see what apple and google offer next.

A whole 20 gig? That wouldnt even house my music with artists starting with A. Do these people really think people have that little music? Ive been buying CDs since the 90s and ripping them. At 320K, it doesnt take long to rack up some space.

aburgthing said:
Just alerting Evo owners (Android owners too) that Amazon just launched their Amazon Cloud Player and Android App. You get 5 GB for free and if you purchase a mp3 (just one will do and for .99 cents pretty cheap storage) you are automatically updated to 20 GB for one year. You can upload your existing music collection to the cloud and listen anywhere; home PC, phone, anywhere with an internet connection. It also allows you to store other files there as well (so they say but haven't checked out that option yet). There is an Android App to go with the program. No subscription fees. Pretty sweet deal if you ask me. Secures your music in case of hardware failure and has the potential to free up a lot of space on your SD card. If you want to pull your music back onto your phone to listen in a premium music player, thats doable too. Great concept and the price can't be beat. This should be especially useful to Sprint users with unlimited data plans. I uploaded 10 GB of music this morning from my computer over Wifi from home and will clean up my SD card from music I don't listen too that often. I think it's a great utility and let's you manage your own library of music pretty liberally.
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Did you buy the one song using your computer or three amazon mp3 app?
I want free upgrade
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This is awesome for my needs.. Thank you for posting!!!!

MadFlava said:
A whole 20 gig? That wouldnt even house my music with artists starting with A. Do these people really think people have that little music? Ive been buying CDs since the 90s and ripping them. At 320K, it doesnt take long to rack up some space.
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you can buy more storage
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You can get up to 1000 GB!
https://www.amazon.com/clouddrive/manage/ref=dm_amp_as

Those with large collections, subsonic is great for streaming from your house
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Did you buy the one song using your computer or three amazon mp3 app?
I want free upgrade
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I think you have to buy a album to get the 20 GB.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html/?ie=UTF8&docId=1000667531

Thank you op.....will check it out.
Via EVO.

Access your cloud
Hi, so If I upload all my songs to the cloud .. is there a mp3 player within the cloud that will play my songs, or do i need to download the song in order for it to play?

You can use the amazon mp3 app on your phone to play the music or use the web app on your computer.
Also if you purchase the $.69 album linked below you'll be upgraded to the 20 GB plan. 20 GB for $.69. EASY....
http://www.amazon.com/Trouty-Mouth-..._shvl_album_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1301412496&sr=301-1

Thanks will try it out
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david279 said:
You can use the amazon mp3 app on your phone to play the music or use the web app on your computer.
Also if you purchase the $.69 album linked below you'll be upgraded to the 20 GB plan. 20 GB for $.69. EASY....
http://www.amazon.com/Trouty-Mouth-..._shvl_album_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1301412496&sr=301-1
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Just bought the Album and got upgraded to the 20 GB Cloud Space until March 29, 2012 cool beans!

No problem....

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The best streaming service I've tried is mspot. It gives you 2GB free space but you can buy more, I fit alot more than 2GB in because it gives you an option of song quality to upload from the original format so I chose the lowest (its just a phone and sounds great even the website through my computer speakers), and best of all its all in the cloud, no need for your computer to be on to act as a server like other services.

I was up very late messing around with this last night. Honestly, I think it's an awesome move, and has thrown down the gauntlet to Google and Apple. Plus, 20GB is enough for me to fit all my most listened to music up there. I like that it streams in the songs original bitrate too.
A lot of people in the comments section on various sites keep mentioning Audiogalaxy as an alternative, but what sets this apart is your home computer doesn't have to be on and connected to the internet all the time.
I may move to Google Music when it comes out, but for now, for me, this is the cream of the crop.

You guys may want to be real careful on what you upload to CloudDrive for a while.
Seems Amazon is taking a "unique" approach to this cloud storage & streaming service. They are arguing that they dont need distribution licenses from RIAA because the service is more like a user saving files to an external harddrive, but in this case its the cloud.
They dont have a license agreement with ANY of the labels, which means that things will likely go south. RIAA and labels are likely going to sue Amazon and issue a C&D letter to get the service to stop. They may even get Amazon to turn over user info and lead to other headaches... Sony for one stated that they are "shocked & upset" over Amazon's new CloudDrive service and others are saying they cant believe a company like Amazon went ahead without securing licenses...
http://http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Amazon-faces-backlash-over-rb-3699819521.html
I would only store music previously purchased from Amazon or CDs that you own, just to be safe. Maybe I'm being paranoid, but I would bet that if Amazon doesnt secure some sort of licensing deal & tighten up their offerings, RIAA is going to bring lawsuits.

Solution to 'no movie rentals for root users' problem

I was just thinking about the whole movie rental thing not being available to root users because they are lumping us all in with thieves. How's this for a solution?
Instead of making it where we can't rent movies, can't they just make it where we aren't able to download them to the device (in other words, no pinning.) and only make them streamable? I would be happy with that. I mean, it would suck for flights and stuff where you don't have a connection, but It'd be better than the solution that they've currently got going.
Thoughts?

screw that they get no money
the movie industry can continue to screw themselves over

Yeah I dont understand... it just gives people a REASON to Pirate movies.
"oh I cant rent this movie on my tablet? Fine then I'll just hit up a torrent site"

Expecting the media copyright holders to be reasonable might be a bit naive
Google has to go along with whatever crazy **** they demand to license their content.

I have no problem whatsoever paying for a rental. I pay for netflix, hulu and frequently comcast on-demand stuff already. If I want to watch a movie on my tablet though, and the easiest thing to do is hit up usenet, then so be it. It usually downloads faster that way anyway.
If they want my money, they just have to make it convenient or at the very least not annoying...

Botero said:
I have no problem whatsoever paying for a rental. I pay for netflix, hulu and frequently comcast on-demand stuff already. If I want to watch a movie on my tablet though, and the easiest thing to do is hit up usenet, then so be it. It usually downloads faster that way anyway.
If they want my money, they just have to make it convenient or at the very least not annoying...
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My sentiment exactly!

th0r615 said:
Yeah I dont understand... it just gives people a REASON to Pirate movies.
"oh I cant rent this movie on my tablet? Fine then I'll just hit up a torrent site"
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Amen, brother.

Has anyone tried Amazon's video service? Not sure if it works on the Xoom / if it uses a special player.
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On another thread someone said that rooted Xooms could rent Google movies, just rent them through the web-based market. I haven't tried it yet.

web market works
Web market works for movie rentals through the native browser, helps to be logged into YouTube with the purchasing account through the browser as well. Also u have to set the quality lower if u didn't purchase the HD version. Works fine on my rooted 3.1 xoom. I have the hulu 10.3 and I believe the root 3.1 included the ua-string. I get errors trying to watch it through the native video app and I can't figure out how to open it in the native YouTube app, but full screen works fine through the browser streaming.
Same applies to watching it through browser on any computer too, we should get more then a day to watch it through...

Just purchase mega viewer pro... problem solved lol
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bored369 said:
Web market works for movie rentals through the native browser, helps to be logged into YouTube with the purchasing account through the browser as well. Also u have to set the quality lower if u didn't purchase the HD version. Works fine on my rooted 3.1 xoom. I have the hulu 10.3 and I believe the root 3.1 included the ua-string. I get errors trying to watch it through the native video app and I can't figure out how to open it in the native YouTube app, but full screen works fine through the browser streaming.
Same applies to watching it through browser on any computer too, we should get more then a day to watch it through...
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Does it allowed to be downloaded/pinned? I'd like to find a solution for watching offline as I travel often.

All this is going to do is make people want to pirate movies. If it isn't easy to just purchase the movie than people are just going to go through other routes to get it on their device.
They are targeting root users, root users are the ones that know how to get stuff on the device without having to go through the market. In my opinion they will for sure lose more money by doing this.

Should i get it...?

i have some questions before thinking of getting it.
as far as i can see, it is the best bet for 200$, but how does it work? since im not 18 yet, and i couldn't buy all the books and games by my self and stuff.... is there a chance to just install a video player application and play downloaded videos like on rockplayer on android? also what about games. is there any way to just download them from some site and just simply install it or something. Thanks!

There's plenty of free books and games on the app store
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I actually preordered, then canceled the deal breaker was no bluetooth.
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a2ha said:
i have some questions before thinking of getting it.
as far as i can see, it is the best bet for 200$, but how does it work? since im not 18 yet, and i couldn't buy all the books and games by my self and stuff.... is there a chance to just install a video player application and play downloaded videos like on rockplayer on android? also what about games. is there any way to just download them from some site and just simply install it or something. Thanks!
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You'll be able to install from Amazon whatever they deem acceptable to be downloaded. Yes, I have read that sideloading apks will be possible but without a uSD disk you'll need to be able to load via cable from your desktop, wirelessly might be possible or email the apk.
Amongst the deal-breakers (for me) are only 8GB total space. You'll fill that fast with music/videos. Cloud storage is useless without a wifi connection. No microSD (uSD) so no expandability. 512MB of RAM will work but 1GB is almost the norm anymore.
Bottom line, Amazon will sell a bazillion of these $200 tabs but mostly to people who are only focused on price and less on function (their loss). The AF is (IMO) kind of on par as those cheap knock-off tablets many Chinese companies crank out. With the holidays coming more and MUCH better alternatives are coming than the AF. Hold off would be my advice for now.

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I actually preordered, then canceled the deal breaker was no bluetooth.
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Bluetooth is the problem for me also. I want to get a tablet, and $200 is tempting, but I would like the option of using a wireless keyboard. On the other hand, I don't want to pay twice as much for a tablet that does have bluetooth.

Why in the Hell Would Google Make a Tablet That Most People Will use to Watch Movies

Only allow a total of 16gb of storage. Wth! This is actually keeping me from buying this badass device. Hell, before even installing any apps or music, you would only be able to put about 16 movies on it. This is just ignorant to me. I'm wanting this thing so bad but I know I wouldn't be able to enjoy it.
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Otg cable and SD card reader...

BLAQK ROXSTAR said:
Otg cable and SD card reader...
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Yeah, once you root it. Average 'users' are either scared off by that or don't even know what that means.
That said, yes, it is very sad there isn't a bigger storage option or USB OTG host capability otb, but we make it work however we have to.
-Ara

Do people not read??
If you actually took a blind bit of notice instead of just posting rubbish. The whole point of the tablet is to use cloud storage.

For me it's different. I always looked at 32gb and 64gb devices (phones or tablets) as a waste of cash. It's so easy to just delete/replace music or movies. I guess some people have so much music and videos to store in their devices. Why not just put 4-5 movies, 4-5 gb of music, a few games and apps.
I wouldn't like to pay 100$ more just to get an extra 16gb, when I can buy a 2tb external hard drive for the same price or a 500gb portable HDD.

You need more than 16 movies on the device at one time to enjoy it?

I understand cloud storage is supposed to be the greatest thing since Japan... but if your internet connection is not rock solid you get buffer bloat and an awful experience, I would prefer to have my music local in flac.
Incidentally I'm still not sure what a tablet is supposed to do... I mean why not just use a laptop, I love android but windows is so much more capable and justifies a case.

Can't really make use of cloud storage when sitting on long car trips, and tethering 3G to watch a 3-4GB movie is far from ideal. Cloud storage is in its infancy with the bandwidth restrictions we have, not quite ready yet.

busties said:
Only allow a total of 16gb of storage. Wth! This is actually keeping me from buying this badass device. Hell, before even installing any apps or music, you would only be able to put about 16 movies on it. This is just ignorant to me. I'm wanting this thing so bad but I know I wouldn't be able to enjoy it.
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Actually don't make your decision based on the SD storage (again its not an issue for some). Have a look at the defects threads, quality of the product and manufacturing defects before you make the call. All these issues are reported from 2-3 weeks of usage.
Good luck.

epichappy said:
I understand cloud storage is supposed to be the greatest thing since Japan... but if your internet connection is not rock solid you get buffer bloat and an awful experience, I would prefer to have my music local in flac.
Incidentally I'm still not sure what a tablet is supposed to do... I mean why not just use a laptop, I love android but windows is so much more capable and justifies a case.
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If you have to ask, you wouldn't understand. Seriously. I used to make those same arguments. One doesn't replace the other. I carry an i7 notebook with 16 GB of RAM just about everywhere I go, at least have it in the truck, and I also take my tablet. If you ever get in the habit of using one or carrying one, it will make sense but it's hard to explain it to someone that hasn't gotten used to one. My other tablet is a 32 GB Transformer Prime, and I've never needed to use 16 GB. I use 25 or so GB but it's only because a lot of nandroid backups on there are old and I haven't gotten around to cleaning house that week on my internal storage. I go through about once a week or so and clear out about 10 GB or so of old nandroid backups.

Did we REALLY need another thread about storage/ Thank goodness you are not going to buy one....

Moricon said:
Did we REALLY need another thread about storage/ Thank goodness you are not going to buy one....
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Ditto

Moricon said:
Did we REALLY need another thread about storage/ Thank goodness you are not going to buy one....
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Shove it up your ass.

busties said:
Shove it up your ass.
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He's actually right. If you actually took the time to use the search function, there are actually numerous posts regarding cloud storage and the use of an USB OTG. Search next time.

busties said:
Only allow a total of 16gb of storage. Wth! This is actually keeping me from buying this badass device. Hell, before even installing any apps or music, you would only be able to put about 16 movies on it. This is just ignorant to me. I'm wanting this thing so bad but I know I wouldn't be able to enjoy it.
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Movie wise, if you officially buy them they will be in cloud storage requiring network connection and you also have the option to download them. If you load the mp4s onto your device it takes up space

Or do what I did and use a NAS server (I use a raspberry pi - for low electricity cost what with it being on all day/night - with samba client and 1TB external hard disk) at home and copy films and content you want for the day/week/month off of that. Can stream from it up to about 720p with no problems any higher requires a bit of buffering if I am in the house or even at another wifi spot (a bit more buffering required depending on connection).
As for portable storage I have installed about 21 games already including some like shadowgun, batman, NOVA 3 and Modern Combat 3 that take up a load of space and I still have 5GB left free on the Nexus. If you want more room then I hear Apple make a nice 32GB wi-fi only model for just £479...oh and that's not expandable either. Even if you go for the 16GB wifi only the money you save by buying the nexus 7 is enough to rent more than a film a week for the next year.

My plan is too use my USB OTG cable (that i ordered from amazon) for use of movies and the 16 Gb for apps

busties said:
Only allow a total of 16gb of storage. Wth! This is actually keeping me from buying this badass device. Hell, before even installing any apps or music, you would only be able to put about 16 movies on it. This is just ignorant to me. I'm wanting this thing so bad but I know I wouldn't be able to enjoy it.
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They want to push their cloud services and media through google play. How many movies do you need on there at once?

You could make the same argument about any tablet that doesnt have infinite storage.
"What's the point of a tablet that can't store every movie ever made in the contiguous 48 states!!?! Argh!"
If you think its a stupid product, don't buy it...but you don't have to come over here harshing on our buzz.
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busties said:
Only allow a total of 16gb of storage. Wth! This is actually keeping me from buying this badass device. Hell, before even installing any apps or music, you would only be able to put about 16 movies on it. This is just ignorant to me. I'm wanting this thing so bad but I know I wouldn't be able to enjoy it.
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streaming.
just enjoyed my nexus7 for at least 4-hr streaming 2 movies from my fileserver and wife watched Viki (korean dramas) for at least 3-hr, and play some games for a couple more.
from 98% battery to 4%.
lotsa storage left.
ps: i think Google intend this to be a stay-at-home device where u can get WiFi (and file shares)