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Ok. So the media hub is out. Looks like you can rent and/or own movies depending on title. The renting is 2.99. I've found own for 9.99 and 12.99. I'm a little worried about paying DVD prices (or somewhat less for some titles) and not getting the DVD, or getting the ability to transfer to another viewing device, ie. dvd, computer. Anyone know what the lowdown is on transfers, etc? I know I've had a hard time trying to find a movie that I can actually put on this phone via dvd ripping from my own dvd library (if that's even legal) or for download from any legal source online. At least the media hub has that going for it.
Anyone know if there are other avenues to actually use the awesome power of this device to watch movies in my palm? Is Media Hub better than?
Ps. I think it is funny that Forrest Gump is listed as comedy. Nice job classifying that one guys.
it still says coming soon for me :/
*edit* oh nevermind i see, its a system update to get it. XD
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Ps. I think it is funny that Forrest Gump is listed as comedy. Nice job classifying that one guys.
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I thought it was funny....
Anyone guess what my favorite part of Forrest Gump is?
hint: look at my avatar
When will we get Avatar? I thought it was suppose to come with all Galaxy S phones.
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When will we get Avatar? I thought it was suppose to come with all Galaxy S phones.
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Nope, just Vibrant as far as I can tell.
Does it bill to your Sprint bill or is there separate payment information?
probably have to stop by the store so they can take a melon baller to your seat cushion.
I'm not really sure how the payment works. I exchanged my phone today due to the back button issue. Now I haven't received the new update yet.
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Ok. So I broke down and bought the latest star trek. Basically, you enter your credit card information into Media Hub the app stores it there (actually, I think it stores it on Samsung's server). I don't think there are any alternatives. Now, based on the current download rate and percentage, I should be able to watch it sometime next week.
I LOL'ed
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Now, based on the current download rate and percentage, I should be able to watch it sometime next week.
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3G? 4G? Wifi? On 4G, the previews always played for me instantly. Even the 2 and a half minute trailers.
I watched a few previews over 4g. I have to admit the video quality was excellent and playback smooth. This might be good for an occasional rental, but once netflix comes out for Android they can kiss this goodbye.
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Well it looks like there is no AllShare support. Can't push this thing to my TV (actually PS3) for viewing. The movie doesn't show up in the AllShare list. I'm not surprised I guess, just disappointed. My guess is that the movie is not being stored in any meaningful format so AllShare couldn't read it if it wanted to. Of course, there could be a way around or some setting I'm missing. I don't think it's a setting at this point though. Media Hub has no settings anywhere that I can find.
The video quality is pretty awesome, no skips, studders, sloops, woops, or whillips. The sounds wasn't *bad*. It's a decent movie viewing experience - even for a big screen action blockbuster. Would be awesome during a long flight, or similar, without having to drag along extra electronics.
However, combined with there currently being no mini-usb to hdmi cable means no support to watch Media Hub movies on a bigger screen. Looks like I'm back to looking for another solution to watching movies on my phone. 12 bucks isn't really a good investment vs. the actual DVD/Blueray (3 dollars more on Amazon). If I was wealthier, maybe. I think this means I won't be using Media Hub, except for the one movie I already paid for.
About the download speed:
I didn't bother trying to watch it before the download was finished so I don't know if that is possible. I think it was a 1-2 hour download but I didn't keep track, maybe I could have started it sooner. Not to bad I guess (over wifi). I couldn't imagine doing this over 3g...definitely an overnight thing.
Just alerting Evo owners (Android owners too) that Amazon just launched their Amazon Cloud Player and Android App. You get 5 GB for free and if you purchase a mp3 (just one will do and for .99 cents pretty cheap storage) you are automatically updated to 20 GB for one year. You can upload your existing music collection to the cloud and listen anywhere; home PC, phone, anywhere with an internet connection. It also allows you to store other files there as well (so they say but haven't checked out that option yet). There is an Android App to go with the program. No subscription fees. Pretty sweet deal if you ask me. Secures your music in case of hardware failure and has the potential to free up a lot of space on your SD card. If you want to pull your music back onto your phone to listen in a premium music player, thats doable too. Great concept and the price can't be beat. This should be especially useful to Sprint users with unlimited data plans. I uploaded 10 GB of music this morning from my computer over Wifi from home and will clean up my SD card from music I don't listen too that often. I think it's a great utility and let's you manage your own library of music pretty liberally.
When they sell flac then I'm in. Until then ill pass
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Im thinking about this but i want see what apple and google offer next.
A whole 20 gig? That wouldnt even house my music with artists starting with A. Do these people really think people have that little music? Ive been buying CDs since the 90s and ripping them. At 320K, it doesnt take long to rack up some space.
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Just alerting Evo owners (Android owners too) that Amazon just launched their Amazon Cloud Player and Android App. You get 5 GB for free and if you purchase a mp3 (just one will do and for .99 cents pretty cheap storage) you are automatically updated to 20 GB for one year. You can upload your existing music collection to the cloud and listen anywhere; home PC, phone, anywhere with an internet connection. It also allows you to store other files there as well (so they say but haven't checked out that option yet). There is an Android App to go with the program. No subscription fees. Pretty sweet deal if you ask me. Secures your music in case of hardware failure and has the potential to free up a lot of space on your SD card. If you want to pull your music back onto your phone to listen in a premium music player, thats doable too. Great concept and the price can't be beat. This should be especially useful to Sprint users with unlimited data plans. I uploaded 10 GB of music this morning from my computer over Wifi from home and will clean up my SD card from music I don't listen too that often. I think it's a great utility and let's you manage your own library of music pretty liberally.
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Did you buy the one song using your computer or three amazon mp3 app?
I want free upgrade
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This is awesome for my needs.. Thank you for posting!!!!
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A whole 20 gig? That wouldnt even house my music with artists starting with A. Do these people really think people have that little music? Ive been buying CDs since the 90s and ripping them. At 320K, it doesnt take long to rack up some space.
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you can buy more storage
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You can get up to 1000 GB!
https://www.amazon.com/clouddrive/manage/ref=dm_amp_as
Those with large collections, subsonic is great for streaming from your house
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Did you buy the one song using your computer or three amazon mp3 app?
I want free upgrade
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I think you have to buy a album to get the 20 GB.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html/?ie=UTF8&docId=1000667531
Thank you op.....will check it out.
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Hi, so If I upload all my songs to the cloud .. is there a mp3 player within the cloud that will play my songs, or do i need to download the song in order for it to play?
You can use the amazon mp3 app on your phone to play the music or use the web app on your computer.
Also if you purchase the $.69 album linked below you'll be upgraded to the 20 GB plan. 20 GB for $.69. EASY....
http://www.amazon.com/Trouty-Mouth-..._shvl_album_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1301412496&sr=301-1
Thanks will try it out
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You can use the amazon mp3 app on your phone to play the music or use the web app on your computer.
Also if you purchase the $.69 album linked below you'll be upgraded to the 20 GB plan. 20 GB for $.69. EASY....
http://www.amazon.com/Trouty-Mouth-..._shvl_album_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1301412496&sr=301-1
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Just bought the Album and got upgraded to the 20 GB Cloud Space until March 29, 2012 cool beans!
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The best streaming service I've tried is mspot. It gives you 2GB free space but you can buy more, I fit alot more than 2GB in because it gives you an option of song quality to upload from the original format so I chose the lowest (its just a phone and sounds great even the website through my computer speakers), and best of all its all in the cloud, no need for your computer to be on to act as a server like other services.
I was up very late messing around with this last night. Honestly, I think it's an awesome move, and has thrown down the gauntlet to Google and Apple. Plus, 20GB is enough for me to fit all my most listened to music up there. I like that it streams in the songs original bitrate too.
A lot of people in the comments section on various sites keep mentioning Audiogalaxy as an alternative, but what sets this apart is your home computer doesn't have to be on and connected to the internet all the time.
I may move to Google Music when it comes out, but for now, for me, this is the cream of the crop.
You guys may want to be real careful on what you upload to CloudDrive for a while.
Seems Amazon is taking a "unique" approach to this cloud storage & streaming service. They are arguing that they dont need distribution licenses from RIAA because the service is more like a user saving files to an external harddrive, but in this case its the cloud.
They dont have a license agreement with ANY of the labels, which means that things will likely go south. RIAA and labels are likely going to sue Amazon and issue a C&D letter to get the service to stop. They may even get Amazon to turn over user info and lead to other headaches... Sony for one stated that they are "shocked & upset" over Amazon's new CloudDrive service and others are saying they cant believe a company like Amazon went ahead without securing licenses...
http://http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Amazon-faces-backlash-over-rb-3699819521.html
I would only store music previously purchased from Amazon or CDs that you own, just to be safe. Maybe I'm being paranoid, but I would bet that if Amazon doesnt secure some sort of licensing deal & tighten up their offerings, RIAA is going to bring lawsuits.
Sorry if somebody has already brought this up, but after searching I didn't find anything. I just got my fire laast night and there appears to be a camera in the top left corner. I know all the specs say there is no camera, but there does in fact appear to be one. Can anyone else confirm?
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I think that's just the ambient light sensor. The first firmware had support for automatic brightness, but that was removed, so it's essentially useless now.
Not a camera.
Just a sensor, nothing to do with a camera. Never saw a camera in the tear down thread so I am pretty sure it isn't one.
Ah, I see. Got my hopes up for nothing, then. Thanks.
Kinda sad that its not in there considering the cost of camera components now a days.
Yah I know so sad. Cause from the tare down it seems that it would have cost only 10.50 or something i know i read that somewhere for a front and back camera. But I still love this thing
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I don't want a camera in mine, my phone's cam is plenty for quick shots. Why is the ambient sensor disabled?
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When it was turned on on mine, it was pretty wonky. I think that's why.
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Yah I know so sad. Cause from the tare down it seems that it would have cost only 10.50 or something i know i read that somewhere for a front and back camera. But I still love this thing
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For 5 million Fires, that would of only cost Amazon an extra $50,000,000
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For 5 million Fires, that would of only cost Amazon an extra $50,000,000
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But I bet with it, it would sell even more cause it is more of a tablet then especially for people on this form who will probably put a custom romantic on it the moment they are available, no?
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But I bet with it, it would sell even more cause it is more of a tablet then especially for people on this form who will probably put a custom romantic on it the moment they are available, no?
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An extra $50 million probably wouldn't of allowed a $199 price point, I imagine.
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But I bet with it, it would sell even more cause it is more of a tablet then especially for people on this form who will probably put a custom romantic on it the moment they are available, no?
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Amazon loses money for every Kindle sold; it currently costs them more to make then they get for selling it. Their only income is the money they get from their bundled services such as music, books, video rentals, prime, etc. Why would Amazon encourage a custom rom that debundles those services...while spending even more money on it?
They only lose something like $2....it isn't all that high honestly...
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They only lose something like $2....it isn't all that high honestly...
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Well if that's the case it would have been nice for them to opt for a camera, but then again my phone (HTC Incredible) has something like an 8 MP camera in it anyways.
But you gotta think even then most companies something off each tablet they sell. Amazon's approach actually seems similar to a video game console maker's approach. Generally Sony and MS both lose money on launch Xbox and Playstation units, but hope to make that up in game sales. If Amazon's loss is that small they should easily make that back.
Very true...but how many do they sell and never even sell an mp3 on? Losing even 0.20 is a risk...adding even more functionality would have widened that loss. And to be honest...how many people the but the kindle want it simply for the purpose it was built? Only a rare group will actually root it and load custom roms.
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They only lose something like $2....it isn't all that high honestly...
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That would make their initial release a $10 million loss. That's a big amount to make up off of songs, movies, and books
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Very true...but how many do they sell and never even sell an mp3 on? Losing even 0.20 is a risk...adding even more functionality would have widened that loss. And to be honest...how many people the but the kindle want it simply for the purpose it was built? Only a rare group will actually root it and load custom roms.
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Yeah, that's why Amazon can do it in the first place though. They have established themselves as a one stop place for many of the Kindle Fire buyers. I know that I pick up lots of stuff at Amazon. There is a risk, but if it truly is around $2 then that's likely made back with one sale. I plan to get mine rooted, etc but I will still buy legit stuff like Kindle books from Amazon.
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That would make their initial release a $10 million loss. That's a big amount to make up off of songs, movies, and books
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Right, but if all those people buy a $5 book that's theoretically $25 million right there. Pretty sure Amazon will come out on top in the long run.
Amazon knows what they're doing - this is not new to them. The initial 3g Kindles were in the same boat - they cost more to make and maintain than they sold for.
The cam can be worth 2 $, but if you calculate 5mil. X 2 $ than the loss would be 10 mil. ...and if the managers cannot think of improvement in Kindle fire 2 – they can always build in mic and cam and make revenue
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Yeah, that's why Amazon can do it in the first place though. They have established themselves as a one stop place for many of the Kindle Fire buyers. I know that I pick up lots of stuff at Amazon. There is a risk, but if it truly is around $2 then that's likely made back with one sale. I plan to get mine rooted, etc but I will still buy legit stuff like Kindle books from Amazon.
Right, but if all those people buy a $5 book that's theoretically $25 million right there. Pretty sure Amazon will come out on top in the long run.
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You think Amazon gets 100% of the profit from a $5 book or app? No, they only take a percentage.
I'm guessing they didn't expect the Fire to be as popular as it has become. An extra $10 million would of possibly made it too risky
Only allow a total of 16gb of storage. Wth! This is actually keeping me from buying this badass device. Hell, before even installing any apps or music, you would only be able to put about 16 movies on it. This is just ignorant to me. I'm wanting this thing so bad but I know I wouldn't be able to enjoy it.
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Otg cable and SD card reader...
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Otg cable and SD card reader...
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Yeah, once you root it. Average 'users' are either scared off by that or don't even know what that means.
That said, yes, it is very sad there isn't a bigger storage option or USB OTG host capability otb, but we make it work however we have to.
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Do people not read??
If you actually took a blind bit of notice instead of just posting rubbish. The whole point of the tablet is to use cloud storage.
For me it's different. I always looked at 32gb and 64gb devices (phones or tablets) as a waste of cash. It's so easy to just delete/replace music or movies. I guess some people have so much music and videos to store in their devices. Why not just put 4-5 movies, 4-5 gb of music, a few games and apps.
I wouldn't like to pay 100$ more just to get an extra 16gb, when I can buy a 2tb external hard drive for the same price or a 500gb portable HDD.
You need more than 16 movies on the device at one time to enjoy it?
I understand cloud storage is supposed to be the greatest thing since Japan... but if your internet connection is not rock solid you get buffer bloat and an awful experience, I would prefer to have my music local in flac.
Incidentally I'm still not sure what a tablet is supposed to do... I mean why not just use a laptop, I love android but windows is so much more capable and justifies a case.
Can't really make use of cloud storage when sitting on long car trips, and tethering 3G to watch a 3-4GB movie is far from ideal. Cloud storage is in its infancy with the bandwidth restrictions we have, not quite ready yet.
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Only allow a total of 16gb of storage. Wth! This is actually keeping me from buying this badass device. Hell, before even installing any apps or music, you would only be able to put about 16 movies on it. This is just ignorant to me. I'm wanting this thing so bad but I know I wouldn't be able to enjoy it.
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Actually don't make your decision based on the SD storage (again its not an issue for some). Have a look at the defects threads, quality of the product and manufacturing defects before you make the call. All these issues are reported from 2-3 weeks of usage.
Good luck.
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I understand cloud storage is supposed to be the greatest thing since Japan... but if your internet connection is not rock solid you get buffer bloat and an awful experience, I would prefer to have my music local in flac.
Incidentally I'm still not sure what a tablet is supposed to do... I mean why not just use a laptop, I love android but windows is so much more capable and justifies a case.
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If you have to ask, you wouldn't understand. Seriously. I used to make those same arguments. One doesn't replace the other. I carry an i7 notebook with 16 GB of RAM just about everywhere I go, at least have it in the truck, and I also take my tablet. If you ever get in the habit of using one or carrying one, it will make sense but it's hard to explain it to someone that hasn't gotten used to one. My other tablet is a 32 GB Transformer Prime, and I've never needed to use 16 GB. I use 25 or so GB but it's only because a lot of nandroid backups on there are old and I haven't gotten around to cleaning house that week on my internal storage. I go through about once a week or so and clear out about 10 GB or so of old nandroid backups.
Did we REALLY need another thread about storage/ Thank goodness you are not going to buy one....
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Did we REALLY need another thread about storage/ Thank goodness you are not going to buy one....
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Ditto
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Did we REALLY need another thread about storage/ Thank goodness you are not going to buy one....
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Shove it up your ass.
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Shove it up your ass.
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He's actually right. If you actually took the time to use the search function, there are actually numerous posts regarding cloud storage and the use of an USB OTG. Search next time.
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Only allow a total of 16gb of storage. Wth! This is actually keeping me from buying this badass device. Hell, before even installing any apps or music, you would only be able to put about 16 movies on it. This is just ignorant to me. I'm wanting this thing so bad but I know I wouldn't be able to enjoy it.
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Movie wise, if you officially buy them they will be in cloud storage requiring network connection and you also have the option to download them. If you load the mp4s onto your device it takes up space
Or do what I did and use a NAS server (I use a raspberry pi - for low electricity cost what with it being on all day/night - with samba client and 1TB external hard disk) at home and copy films and content you want for the day/week/month off of that. Can stream from it up to about 720p with no problems any higher requires a bit of buffering if I am in the house or even at another wifi spot (a bit more buffering required depending on connection).
As for portable storage I have installed about 21 games already including some like shadowgun, batman, NOVA 3 and Modern Combat 3 that take up a load of space and I still have 5GB left free on the Nexus. If you want more room then I hear Apple make a nice 32GB wi-fi only model for just £479...oh and that's not expandable either. Even if you go for the 16GB wifi only the money you save by buying the nexus 7 is enough to rent more than a film a week for the next year.
My plan is too use my USB OTG cable (that i ordered from amazon) for use of movies and the 16 Gb for apps
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Only allow a total of 16gb of storage. Wth! This is actually keeping me from buying this badass device. Hell, before even installing any apps or music, you would only be able to put about 16 movies on it. This is just ignorant to me. I'm wanting this thing so bad but I know I wouldn't be able to enjoy it.
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They want to push their cloud services and media through google play. How many movies do you need on there at once?
You could make the same argument about any tablet that doesnt have infinite storage.
"What's the point of a tablet that can't store every movie ever made in the contiguous 48 states!!?! Argh!"
If you think its a stupid product, don't buy it...but you don't have to come over here harshing on our buzz.
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Only allow a total of 16gb of storage. Wth! This is actually keeping me from buying this badass device. Hell, before even installing any apps or music, you would only be able to put about 16 movies on it. This is just ignorant to me. I'm wanting this thing so bad but I know I wouldn't be able to enjoy it.
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streaming.
just enjoyed my nexus7 for at least 4-hr streaming 2 movies from my fileserver and wife watched Viki (korean dramas) for at least 3-hr, and play some games for a couple more.
from 98% battery to 4%.
lotsa storage left.
ps: i think Google intend this to be a stay-at-home device where u can get WiFi (and file shares)
Is the nexus 7 still worth it for me if i do not subscribe to stream movies, buy books and magazines, purchase songs. I do have my own collections of movies, books, songs on my pc.
I don't buy books or movies or magazines either, yet there hasn't been a day that I haven't used my N7 since the day I got it. It's wonderful.
I don't really watch movies on it but I do read books quite a bit however the thing I do most it browsing the web. I pretty much gave up using my laptop after getting my tablets.
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I don't buy books or movies or magazines either, yet there hasn't been a day that I haven't used my N7 since the day I got it. It's wonderful.
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This.
I tried to read a few magazines on mine but they take up a lot of space and its a little annoying to have to zoom into articles all the time. Watching streaming movies on the Nexus is great, constantly having them on there at your disposal is a completely different story. Same thing with music. If you want to do all that, I'd say wait for the 32 GB. The 8 GB is a joke if you want to do all that, I can't attest to the 16 GB.
I'm exactly like you but since I got this, I would say its worth every penny.
I use it primarily as a RSS reader, email reader, and to surf the web. I would say it is worth every penny.
I guess it will depend on what you want or need it for.
I use mine for everything.I have a 16gig and it is loaded with everything I use and it still has over 10gigs free space.I have lots of pictures stored on the device and quite a few songs in a playlist as well.I have lots of tv shows and movies loaded on my computer and it does not take long to stick something on the nexus if I want them on the device.I watch it and then get rid of it.No use carrying it on the device when I have already watched it.I have it all loaded on a stick drive that is always with me so storage is no biggy at all any more.
I use mine for checking email, streaming music to my truck stereo and having maps and gps during the day.When at home I surf the web and watch hbo and other streaming sites with it.I use BS player and can stream all the video stored on my computer as well.I also use it for reading my kindle books with the Amazon app.
I KNOW I get my moneys worth out of my n7 and am just scratching the surface on things I can do with it since it is my first Android device.:laugh:.
Of course it does. With the apps available out there, I'm sure you will find something that can help you with whatever you want to do.
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I don't buy books or movies or magazines either, yet there hasn't been a day that I haven't used my N7 since the day I got it. It's wonderful.
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^^This right here. Same for me. I love this thing. I really had no need for it. I bought it with every intention of returning it. I have 10" tab...have a gs3...have no need for this tab at all...however I love this thing. It is damn near perfect. It was worth every penny. Most places have a return policy, if you are unhappy return it. I couldn't.
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