Sorry if somebody has already brought this up, but after searching I didn't find anything. I just got my fire laast night and there appears to be a camera in the top left corner. I know all the specs say there is no camera, but there does in fact appear to be one. Can anyone else confirm?
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I think that's just the ambient light sensor. The first firmware had support for automatic brightness, but that was removed, so it's essentially useless now.
Not a camera.
Just a sensor, nothing to do with a camera. Never saw a camera in the tear down thread so I am pretty sure it isn't one.
Ah, I see. Got my hopes up for nothing, then. Thanks.
Kinda sad that its not in there considering the cost of camera components now a days.
Yah I know so sad. Cause from the tare down it seems that it would have cost only 10.50 or something i know i read that somewhere for a front and back camera. But I still love this thing
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I don't want a camera in mine, my phone's cam is plenty for quick shots. Why is the ambient sensor disabled?
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When it was turned on on mine, it was pretty wonky. I think that's why.
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Yah I know so sad. Cause from the tare down it seems that it would have cost only 10.50 or something i know i read that somewhere for a front and back camera. But I still love this thing
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For 5 million Fires, that would of only cost Amazon an extra $50,000,000
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For 5 million Fires, that would of only cost Amazon an extra $50,000,000
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But I bet with it, it would sell even more cause it is more of a tablet then especially for people on this form who will probably put a custom romantic on it the moment they are available, no?
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But I bet with it, it would sell even more cause it is more of a tablet then especially for people on this form who will probably put a custom romantic on it the moment they are available, no?
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An extra $50 million probably wouldn't of allowed a $199 price point, I imagine.
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But I bet with it, it would sell even more cause it is more of a tablet then especially for people on this form who will probably put a custom romantic on it the moment they are available, no?
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Amazon loses money for every Kindle sold; it currently costs them more to make then they get for selling it. Their only income is the money they get from their bundled services such as music, books, video rentals, prime, etc. Why would Amazon encourage a custom rom that debundles those services...while spending even more money on it?
They only lose something like $2....it isn't all that high honestly...
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They only lose something like $2....it isn't all that high honestly...
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Well if that's the case it would have been nice for them to opt for a camera, but then again my phone (HTC Incredible) has something like an 8 MP camera in it anyways.
But you gotta think even then most companies something off each tablet they sell. Amazon's approach actually seems similar to a video game console maker's approach. Generally Sony and MS both lose money on launch Xbox and Playstation units, but hope to make that up in game sales. If Amazon's loss is that small they should easily make that back.
Very true...but how many do they sell and never even sell an mp3 on? Losing even 0.20 is a risk...adding even more functionality would have widened that loss. And to be honest...how many people the but the kindle want it simply for the purpose it was built? Only a rare group will actually root it and load custom roms.
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They only lose something like $2....it isn't all that high honestly...
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That would make their initial release a $10 million loss. That's a big amount to make up off of songs, movies, and books
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Very true...but how many do they sell and never even sell an mp3 on? Losing even 0.20 is a risk...adding even more functionality would have widened that loss. And to be honest...how many people the but the kindle want it simply for the purpose it was built? Only a rare group will actually root it and load custom roms.
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Yeah, that's why Amazon can do it in the first place though. They have established themselves as a one stop place for many of the Kindle Fire buyers. I know that I pick up lots of stuff at Amazon. There is a risk, but if it truly is around $2 then that's likely made back with one sale. I plan to get mine rooted, etc but I will still buy legit stuff like Kindle books from Amazon.
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That would make their initial release a $10 million loss. That's a big amount to make up off of songs, movies, and books
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Right, but if all those people buy a $5 book that's theoretically $25 million right there. Pretty sure Amazon will come out on top in the long run.
Amazon knows what they're doing - this is not new to them. The initial 3g Kindles were in the same boat - they cost more to make and maintain than they sold for.
The cam can be worth 2 $, but if you calculate 5mil. X 2 $ than the loss would be 10 mil. ...and if the managers cannot think of improvement in Kindle fire 2 – they can always build in mic and cam and make revenue
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Yeah, that's why Amazon can do it in the first place though. They have established themselves as a one stop place for many of the Kindle Fire buyers. I know that I pick up lots of stuff at Amazon. There is a risk, but if it truly is around $2 then that's likely made back with one sale. I plan to get mine rooted, etc but I will still buy legit stuff like Kindle books from Amazon.
Right, but if all those people buy a $5 book that's theoretically $25 million right there. Pretty sure Amazon will come out on top in the long run.
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You think Amazon gets 100% of the profit from a $5 book or app? No, they only take a percentage.
I'm guessing they didn't expect the Fire to be as popular as it has become. An extra $10 million would of possibly made it too risky
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i have some questions before thinking of getting it.
as far as i can see, it is the best bet for 200$, but how does it work? since im not 18 yet, and i couldn't buy all the books and games by my self and stuff.... is there a chance to just install a video player application and play downloaded videos like on rockplayer on android? also what about games. is there any way to just download them from some site and just simply install it or something. Thanks!
There's plenty of free books and games on the app store
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I actually preordered, then canceled the deal breaker was no bluetooth.
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i have some questions before thinking of getting it.
as far as i can see, it is the best bet for 200$, but how does it work? since im not 18 yet, and i couldn't buy all the books and games by my self and stuff.... is there a chance to just install a video player application and play downloaded videos like on rockplayer on android? also what about games. is there any way to just download them from some site and just simply install it or something. Thanks!
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You'll be able to install from Amazon whatever they deem acceptable to be downloaded. Yes, I have read that sideloading apks will be possible but without a uSD disk you'll need to be able to load via cable from your desktop, wirelessly might be possible or email the apk.
Amongst the deal-breakers (for me) are only 8GB total space. You'll fill that fast with music/videos. Cloud storage is useless without a wifi connection. No microSD (uSD) so no expandability. 512MB of RAM will work but 1GB is almost the norm anymore.
Bottom line, Amazon will sell a bazillion of these $200 tabs but mostly to people who are only focused on price and less on function (their loss). The AF is (IMO) kind of on par as those cheap knock-off tablets many Chinese companies crank out. With the holidays coming more and MUCH better alternatives are coming than the AF. Hold off would be my advice for now.
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I actually preordered, then canceled the deal breaker was no bluetooth.
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Bluetooth is the problem for me also. I want to get a tablet, and $200 is tempting, but I would like the option of using a wireless keyboard. On the other hand, I don't want to pay twice as much for a tablet that does have bluetooth.
So im thinking about ggetting a kindle fire today. Im still on the small fence about it. Help me climb over?
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So im thinking about ggetting a kindle fire today. Im still on the small fence about it. Help me climb over?
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You should buy it because ICS is almost fully compatible with Kindle Fire. Plus, if you have any problems you have this forum to ask
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You should buy it because ICS is almost fully compatible with Kindle Fire. Plus, if you have any problems you have this forum to ask
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Yeah im planning on getting it today, but just wanted to see if there was anything I needed to know first. Lol
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So im thinking about ggetting a kindle fire today. Im still on the small fence about it. Help me climb over?
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Yikes! Listen:
I have an HTC Desire, an HTC Desire HD, a Sony Tablet S 32GB, and an ASUS Transformer TF101 32GB (all that Android junk, you know.)
Yeah, I also have a lot of other stuff, including an iPad2 (wife's gadget), and a couple of unlocked iPhones. Not bragging, no. Just mentioning so that you'll get the complete picture here.
This Kindle Fire thing is an incredible deal for $200! (The Amazon refurb promo for $150 last week was just CRAZY.) It's great fun! Root= super easy, and with Paul Obrien's MoDaCo ROM right now: The graphics are seriously sharp and simply excellent, the network access is stupid fast, and I am having a ball with it.
There are a couple of limitations, no bluetooth and no microphone. But for watching downloaded movies and playing games with the kids n stuff, XLNT!
Enough?
If you aren't messing with one of these right now, you just aren't just missing something, you're missing IT.
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Yikes! Listen:
I have an HTC Desire, an HTC Desire HD, a Sony Tablet S 32GB, and an ASUS Transformer TF101 32GB (all that Android junk, you know.)
Yeah, I also have a lot of other stuff, including an iPad2 (wife's gadget), and a couple of unlocked iPhones. Not bragging, no. Just mentioning so that you'll get the complete picture here.
This Kindle Fire thing is an incredible deal for $200! (The Amazon refurb promo for $150 last week was just CRAZY.) It's great fun! Root= super easy, and with Paul Obrien's MoDaCo ROM right now: The graphics are seriously sharp and simply excellent, the network access is stupid fast, and I am having a ball with it.
There are a couple of limitations, no bluetooth and no microphone. But for watching downloaded movies and playing games with the kids n stuff, XLNT!
Enough?
If you aren't messing with one of these right now, you just aren't just missing something, you're missing IT.
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Sold. Or should I say Bought? Haha thanks
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I'm missing it! What! I to was on the fence, the lack of bluetooth sucked. Also no SD. But my main use(s) on this is for
1) Emulators (N64oid being the biggest)
2) Internet
3) Pandora!
4) An E-Reader
Should I get it? $170 shipped in two days. If yes, all I need is an amazing Leather case/Kickstand thingy.
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The lack of an external SD is a bummer but, using wifi tether and wifi file transfer on my phone it is possible to use the SD card on my phone as additional storage. It is also possible to create shared directories on your pc that the fire can use.
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Woooo got cm9 on it!!!!!!!
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Woooo got cm9 on it!!!!!!!
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Nicee
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I am also thinking about a kindle fire. Does USB host work with and/or without rooting? I'd like to buy an adapter and plug in my USB flash drive to use as storage. Or connect a USB keyboard.
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I got it refurb from the outlet for 139! It came looking brand new...
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I got it refurb from the outlet for 139! It came looking brand new...
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That's because it probably is. The 'auto-update' glitch bricked a ton of KFs. (Like this: Unzip the Amazon box, unwrap the cellophane, turn the puppy on, then watch it happily hang on auto-update= el Bricko bumstick.)
Unhappy customers sent them back in droves. Amazon techs simply updated via mini-usb connector, (takes 20 seconds) then shipped them back out as refurbs.
Brand new, and a fantastic deal!
Oh yeah, they also have to dump all of their inventory to get ready for the KF2.
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I got it refurb from the outlet for 139! It came looking brand new...
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Care to share link?
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Oh yeah, they also have to dump all of their inventory to get ready for the KF2.
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Isn't that supossed to be a 10"?
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AgentCherryColla said:
Isn't that supossed to be a 10"?
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Sort of. HK rumours last week, legal dept. staff Inter-consult w/ Foxconn & Cather, (the blank & MB manufacturers) say: 9.7", active bezel (gorilla & long range wifi?), quad-core sized HS, slim over-sized custom battery, with SD slot and side mount volume control holes. (In HK, parts-is-parts, if you catch my drift.) Taiwan has had the finished item running for quite a while, doing Amazonia software polish atm. Probably trying to keep it from getting rooted the very first day of release.
Anyway, "...goes gold in about 6-8 weeks." means that I am certainly not holding my breath waiting for it. No more update glitches this time I'm sure.
Oh, the previously mentioned $139 deal went history about 8 days ago, and I do wish I had gotten a couple more of them. The kids pass this thing around in the car like a box of Smarties. Industrial strength, even the 3 yr old gets her mitts on it.
Big fun.
blambo said:
Sort of. HK rumours last week, legal dept. staff Inter-consult w/ Foxconn & Cather, (the blank & MB manufacturers) say: 9.7", active bezel (gorilla & long range wifi?), quad-core sized HS, slim over-sized custom battery, with SD slot and side mount volume control holes. (In HK, parts-is-parts, if you catch my drift.) Taiwan has had the finished item running for quite a while, doing Amazonia software polish atm. Probably trying to keep it from getting rooted the very first day of release.
Anyway, "...goes gold in about 6-8 weeks." means that I am certainly not holding my breath waiting for it. No more update glitches this time I'm sure.
Oh, the previously mentioned $139 deal went history about 8 days ago, and I do wish I had gotten a couple more of them. The kids pass this thing around in the car like a box of Smarties. Industrial strength, even the 3 yr old gets her mitts on it.
Big fun.
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This is going to be a great Tablet. $170 refurbished, with a warranty. Great deal, and I'm buying a $17 starter kit.
Book Cover case, 3 Pens. Two anti glare screen protectors. Some headphones, and 3.5MM to 3.5MM cable.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1509486
Happy with this Tablet.
Got one during the refurb sale, and I'm finding its lack of storage somewhat limiting. I have a dropbox and sugarsync account that helps, it just would have been nice if I could have dropped a 16gb sd card in there.
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Got one during the refurb sale, and I'm finding its lack of storage somewhat limiting. I have a dropbox and sugarsync account that helps, it just would have been nice if I could have dropped a 16gb sd card in there.
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That's why I'm just using mine for games, and books. Nothing else. No movies, or Music. I'm already saving up for an Asus Transformer Prime. Mmmmmmm Tega 3 Quad (+1) Core.
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tegra 3 father is comming snapdragon s4 tablets are on their way
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kitsunisan said:
Got one during the refurb sale, and I'm finding its lack of storage somewhat limiting. I have a dropbox and sugarsync account that helps, it just would have been nice if I could have dropped a 16gb sd card in there.
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Absolutely! But for $139? Seriously?
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Since no one has started a thread yet for this, I'd figured I will
Official Site here:
http://toq.qualcomm.com/
Support faq here:
http://toq.qualcomm.com/support/faq
Now available for pre-order:
https://toq-store.qualcomm.com/
Using a Sony SW2 at the moment, backed a pebble, the kreyos, and the omate 1/8 GB Dev
I took the bait for the Toq - Anyone else?
You have an addiction lol
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Cool!
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Just wish it wasn't $350 for a 1st gen device in a soon to be crowded and lower priced market. I already have a MetaWatch Frame ($200), and would rather wait for Google to release something that I know will be supported for a while then drop the money on something that may or may not be getting new and improved apps a year from now. That being said, the Mirasol screen looks awesome and I like the overall look and features of the watch. For $250 I would have already pre ordered it, $350 is overpriced.
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Just wish it wasn't $350 for a 1st gen device in a soon to be crowded and lower priced market. I already have a MetaWatch Frame ($200), and would rather wait for Google to release something that I know will be supported for a while then drop the money on something that may or may not be getting new and improved apps a year from now. That being said, the Mirasol screen looks awesome and I like the overall look and features of the watch. For $250 I would have already pre ordered it, $350 is overpriced.
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I hear what you're saying about smart watches in general are coming out overpriced but I believe that the Toq is comparable due to the added wireless charger that makes up for the additional cost. That is a feature which none of the others have at this time anyway. And believe me I am not trying to justify their initial high costs because I too think all of the smart watches in general should start at a lower cost margin than what they have started with when they first came out.
This watch is already available for purchase at USD399, anybody here getting it? The deal breaker with this watch is that it has no Ingress Protection (IP) rating. Yes, it is not waterproof. You spend a lot of money into something that is not waterproof, that is so not right.
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Official Site here:
http://toq.qualcomm.com/
Support faq here:
http://toq.qualcomm.com/support/faq
Now available for pre-order:
https://toq-store.qualcomm.com/
Using a Sony SW2 at the moment, backed a pebble, the kreyos, and the omate 1/8 GB Dev
I took the bait for the Toq - Anyone else?
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I just took the bait as well and placed my order through amazon.
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I've had mine since last Friday, and I must say I've been pleasantly surprised. It just works, no issues, functionality is straightforward. Notifications work, not crazy bells and whistles, just a well thought out product.
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I've had mine since last Friday, and I must say I've been pleasantly surprised. It just works, no issues, functionality is straightforward. Notifications work, not crazy bells and whistles, just a well thought out product.
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Does it have access to the Play Store?
skyworxx said:
Does it have access to the Play Store?
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It doesnt run android so my guess would be no. It wouldnt be able to run the apps
A reviewer on Amazon stated that in order to adjust the bracelet you need to cut it?!? What's up with that?
Btw, there is another AppsComm A1 smartwatch that will debut with Mirasol display. So hopefully its a start of more good things to come.
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It doesnt run android so my guess would be no. It wouldnt be able to run the apps
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Qualcom states it does. It is probably very well hidden under the oem launcher and apps.
Just got my watch, any questions, ask away. I've had the pebble for about 3 months, the SW2
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Love my Toq!
I've been posting my Toq info,review, and Tips here: http://forums.androidcentral.com/qu...ve-got-questions-fire-away-3.html#post3326452
But if you have and questions feel free to ask.
Here are comparison pics between the Pebble Sony SW2 and the Toq:
synplex said:
I've been posting my Toq info,review, and Tips here: http://forums.androidcentral.com/qu...ve-got-questions-fire-away-3.html#post3326452
But if you have and questions feel free to ask.
Here are comparison pics between the Pebble Sony SW2 and the Toq:
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The big question: which one do you like better?
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The big question: which one do you like better?
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Lol, I guess I should have mentioned that part. Without a Doubt the Toq is best out of Box. Its companion app has everything I needed (Except Tasker integration) without having to buy and/or wait for 3rd party apps. If the SDK for the Toq is release soon and Dev start cranking out apps, the Toq is a guaranty to be the Top Smartwatch in my opinion.
Can you check what brightness level you have while outside in day light and also how long does it last on a single charge,
Cheers
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Can you check what brightness level you have while outside in day light and also how long does it last on a single charge,
Cheers
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Brightness level outside?? Not sure what exactly you mean but outside in a sunny Miami day I can read my Toq watch as easily as I can read a piece of paper. :victory:
Battery life has been amazing I'm at 5 days with 14% battery left. I haven't shut it off once in the last 5 days.
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Brightness level outside?? Not sure what exactly you mean but outside in a sunny Miami day I can read my Toq watch as easily as I can read a piece of paper. :victory:
Battery life has been amazing I'm at 5 days with 14% battery left. I haven't shut it off once in the last 5 days.
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WOW, you gotta be kidding me? That is very impressive!!! Do you get a lot of email/txt/call notification during the day? Also, do you unpair it at night or keep it paired up 24-7? I know with my MetaWatch once the watch is far away from the phone, my phone keeps searching for it non-stop which drains battery on my Note 2 lol!!! So, every night I unpair my MW and N2.
Also forgot to ask, from the pictures, can you tell if Toq is tinner than SW2 or not? It definitely looks thinner than Pebble.
But can it....
Can it run google maps? I want to be able to wear it while I'm on my motorcylce and glance at it once in a while instead of only having audio telling me how close I am. Thanks and congrats on the new watch!
Just scored a Black G Pad 8.3 on Newegg for $279.00 with free delivery. Now I can sell off my Verizon Samsung 7.7 Tab. Hot damn! Anyone try One Click Root on this thing?
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sonjohn1 said:
Just scored a Black G Pad 8.3 on Newegg for $279.00 with free delivery. Now I can sell off my Verizon Samsung 7.7 Tab. Hot damn! Anyone try One Click Root on this thing?
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Cool stuff just got mine to, i am still waiting on the root they say not to use the one click stuff has virus or something like that / be warned if you do. Some people did it and it works but i already put a lot of info on mine so if i did do it, i would would be at high risk unless i factory restore.
sonjohn1 said:
Just scored a Black G Pad 8.3 on Newegg for $279.00 with free delivery. Now I can sell off my Verizon Samsung 7.7 Tab. Hot damn! Anyone try One Click Root on this thing?
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Trying to see if I can get my brother to score this and bring it up to Canada for me... No way is the price gonna be like this anytime soon (or soon enough after the thing FINALLY hits the local shops)... Damn you LG, we're not that far away!
Mark
Endlessillusion said:
Cool stuff just got mine to, i am still waiting on the root they say not to use the one click stuff has virus or something like that / be warned if you do. Some people did it and it works but i already put a lot of info on mine so if i did do it, i would would be at high risk unless i factory restore.
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Total FUD, but okay. Unless you're hiding government secrets, I don't think the Chinese care about your baby photos and doctor's appointments on your calendar.
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Just scored a Black G Pad 8.3 on Newegg for $279.00 with free delivery. Now I can sell off my Verizon Samsung 7.7 Tab. Hot damn! Anyone try One Click Root on this thing?
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Total FUD, but okay. Unless you're hiding government secrets, I don't think the Chinese care about your baby photos and doctor's appointments on your calendar.
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You're right on the money man i don't want them seeing my baby photos at all !! Haha, all jokes aside i am not worried about that part it's the trojan / virus( has that been debunked?). The NSA or whoever already know everything about us it's a virus messing up my tab or the pc i am worried about, but shed some light on your experience with it.
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You're right on the money man i don't want them seeing my baby photos at all !! Haha, all jokes aside i am not worried about that part it's the trojan / virus( has that been debunked?). The NSA or whoever already know everything about us it's a virus messing up my tab or the pc i am worried about, but shed some light on your experience with it.
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There's no viruses. Whoever said there was had to be a false positive. I've scanned it myself and there was nothing detected. I've got tons of tools for the PC that register as "viruses", but they're false positives. Nothing has happened on my tablet either. No mysterious apps or behavior, no charges on my credit card, no collection calls for purchases I've never made, no identity theft..
You've got nothing to worry about. The reason it requires an Internet connection is because it has to download device specific stuff rather than include every possible device with the program itself. It's just how they wrote it. Until we get custom recoveries going, we won't be able to build root into ROMs.
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There's no viruses. Whoever said there was had to be a false positive. I've scanned it myself and there was nothing detected. I've got tons of tools for the PC that register as "viruses", but they're false positives. Nothing has happened on my tablet either. No mysterious apps or behavior, no charges on my credit card, no collection calls for purchases I've never made, no identity theft..
You've got nothing to worry about. The reason it requires an Internet connection is because it has to download device specific stuff rather than include every possible device with the program itself. It's just how they wrote it. Until we get custom recoveries going, we won't be able to build root into ROMs.
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Yeah i might as well just jump in now, it would suck if the world ended tomorrow and didn't even root my pad haha
Bought Today...
sonjohn1 said:
Just scored a Black G Pad 8.3 on Newegg for $279.00 with free delivery. Now I can sell off my Verizon Samsung 7.7 Tab. Hot damn! Anyone try One Click Root on this thing?
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Yep. Pulled the trigger on this deal. Newegg is pretty good about the no re-stocking return, if it does not pan out. Odds are, that this is the V512 for the 2014 Nexus 8??
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Yep. Pulled the trigger on this deal. Newegg is pretty good about the no re-stocking return, if it does not pan out. Odds are, that this is the V512 for the 2014 Nexus 8??
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I pulled the trigger today as well but I used the Newegg Ebay storefront. The price is $20 less ($259). Hope I don't get burned.
tyshone said:
I pulled the trigger today as well but I used the Newegg Ebay storefront. The price is $20 less ($259). Hope I don't get burned.
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You won't, it's legit. They sell a lot of random crap on ebay cheaper than their store. :good:
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I pulled the trigger today as well but I used the Newegg Ebay storefront. The price is $20 less ($259). Hope I don't get burned.
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I bought it from ebay today also. I got a squaretrade warranty cheap in case something goes wrong with it since it does not have a warranty with it,
moz90 said:
I bought it from ebay today also. I got a squaretrade warranty cheap in case something goes wrong with it since it does not have a warranty with it,
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That's a good idea. Think I will do the same.
I really wish this thing had some press. To me it looks like the best tablet out there with the specs and size. I had both n10 & n7 and ones to small other to big. And my fiance has ipad 2 and it's also to big.
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moz90 said:
I really wish this thing had some press. To me it looks like the best tablet out there with the specs and size. I had both n10 & n7 and ones to small other to big. And my fiance has ipad 2 and it's also to big.
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You can blame LG for that. This thing is seriously the best Android tablet on the market. I've used all of the "best" Android tablets over the past year and this is by far the best. They've got a solid product.
Honestly I didn't know much about this thing until today. I was planning on getting note 8 until I came across this thing and as long as the reviews are right I'm sure I'll be happy.
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moz90 said:
Honestly I didn't know much about this thing until today. I was planning on getting note 8 until I came across this thing and as long as the reviews are right I'm sure I'll be happy.
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I had a Note 8 and it was the perfect size but I couldn't get past the screen resolution. For that reason, I sold it and begun my search for a like size tablet with a higher resolution. That is how I stumbled across this beauty. I have not received mine yet but I've watched enough Youtube videos and have played with it at Best Buy enough to know it's a winner. Looking forward to breaking it in.
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That's a good idea. Think I will do the same.
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I liked there facebook and i got 30 percent off
moz90 said:
I liked there facebook and i got 30 percent off
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How do you get in one this Deal ? Do you like them from their website ?
moz90 said:
I liked there facebook and i got 30 percent off
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I looked on their site, email promo and Facebook page and don't see anything about this... please let us know how to get this!
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Check tomorrow on their twitter feed.
I got mine on Tuesday (ordered) from Newegg for Half off. Yes, for $175. Got it in the Mail on Friday.
They mentioned something to someone who missed out on the deal to check Monday for another good promo.
So far i am really enjoying it.
Anybody know any rumors / talk of someone working on a stock android Rom for this?? Or kit Kat even... I'm definitely not interested in Fire OS in the least bit.
Thanks
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Bootloader is locked meaning no customs roms until then unless you go with the safe strap method and from what I seen people are having problems with memory and some crashing of the problems and if you have a 8.9 hdx safe strap is not supported but I have faith in this community and belive we will have roms in the future
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Really? Because there's already root tutorials in kindle fire hdx > android development.
Unless those are "safe strap"? Idk I didn't look into it too much because I don't have the kindle yet (got it for Xmas I'm pretty sure lol)
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So custom ROMs are totally possible, and I'm sure there will be one or two soon, but the issue as stated above is the bootloader is locked. This means no custom kernels which means no AOSP ROMs. This currently rules out Cyanogen, AOKP, Paranoid Android, everything like that. Everything will be Fire OS based until the bootloader is unlocked. Before yesterday there wasn't even working Play Store downloading. Progress is being made, and the bootloader could be unlocked in a couple weeks, or it may never happen. Until then you just got to stick with what we've got, which is pretty nice as far as I'm concerned. The hardware is quite nice, and with a custom launcher and Gapps Fire OS isn't terrible.
Thank you! Good to know
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Well, i have one based on stock almost ready With all amazon stuff removed and full google experience. I still have a few noob problems but i think it shoud be ready after christams.
Also note that any rom could be ported even CM thanks to safestrap. The kernel is not a problem. Im not sure i'll have the time to do so but if so i'll prove it
Merry Christmas !
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Cpasjuste said:
Well, i have one based on stock almost ready With all amazon stuff removed and full google experience.
I still have a few noob problems but i think it shoud be ready after christams.
Merry Christmas !
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Yay thank you!!! ?❤
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floodingaugust said:
Yay thank you!!! ��❤
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THOR = Hdx 7"
Only working rootable versions are 14.3.1.0 for the 8.9" && 13.3.1.0 for Thor
Kindle Fire HDX 8.9" Rooting tut
Kindle Fire HDX 7" Rooting tut
Hashcode's modified TWRP safestrap ONLY FOR Thor
Working Google Play ROM ONLY FOR Thor
Hope this points you in the right direction. Just search the threads.
Anyone know if it's hard / going to take a long time to unlock bootloader?
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May never happen
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murso74 said:
May never happen
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Is there a reason for that?
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floodingaugust said:
Is there a reason for that?
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One reason is Amazon security on the chips they use.
floodingaugust said:
Is there a reason for that?
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these companies are getting better at locking them, and there is less and less incentive for people to break them. look at the bounty thread.. only 145 bucks. i have a Moto X which is over 1000 dollars and that still hasn't gotten cracked. i wouldn't hold on to the kindle hoping it will get cracked... if i didn't have amazon instant i would probably send this thing back (i may anyway, as i'm having wifi issues)
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these companies are getting better at locking them, and there is less and less incentive for people to break them. look at the bounty thread.. only 145 bucks. i have a Moto X which is over 1000 dollars and that still hasn't gotten cracked. i wouldn't hold on to the kindle hoping it will get cracked... if i didn't have amazon instant i would probably send this thing back (i may anyway, as i'm having wifi issues)
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Even if the boot loader didn't get unlocked working google play and a custom loader or exposed is all you really need and all are somewhat working now. I have almost every tablet ever made in this household. Nearly all have boot loaders either bypassed or broken. Already the 7 inch boot loader has been bypassed on this, a new device. The truth is the more popular a device is the quicker it is modded. If sales are high on this device it is likely to get dev attention. Try not to be such a Debbie downer
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Even if the boot loader didn't get unlocked working google play and a custom loader or exposed is all you really need and all are somewhat working now. I have almost every tablet ever made in this household. Nearly all have boot loaders either bypassed or broken. Already the 7 inch boot loader has been bypassed on this, a new device. The truth is the more popular a device is the quicker it is modded. If sales are high on this device it is likely to get dev attention. Try not to be such a Debbie downer
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Exactly, thank you!
I have been around Android since the beginning and have to say that out of all devices I have seen or bought.... this one has the least amount of bloat and is one of the best...
Quad core running 2.2ghz, 2gb ram??? nothing I have thrown at it has lagged or been slow!
Best tablet out right now, fast, portable, good battery life and did I mention it is easy on your wallet too? lol
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Exactly, thank you!
I have been around Android since the beginning and have to say that out of all devices I have seen or bought.... this one has the least amount of bloat and is one of the best...
Quad core running 2.2ghz, 2gb ram??? nothing I have thrown at it has lagged or been slow!
Best tablet out right now, fast, portable, good battery life and did I mention it is easy on your wallet too? lol
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Recon that! If only we could have working widgets and some fully working alternative launcher .. Play store doesn't bother me that much, since I get all the apps either from an alternative store or I download them on my phone and sent them to the tablet, so no big deal till now.
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Even if the boot loader didn't get unlocked working google play and a custom loader or exposed is all you really need and all are somewhat working now. I have almost every tablet ever made in this household. Nearly all have boot loaders either bypassed or broken. Already the 7 inch boot loader has been bypassed on this, a new device. The truth is the more popular a device is the quicker it is modded. If sales are high on this device it is likely to get dev attention. Try not to be such a Debbie downer
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Well the device was a gift I can't just bring it back.
Basically Amazon banned me for some dumb ass reason literally like my neighbor got in trouble so now I can't use it. and when I try to buy **** on the kindle I can't use that store either so I am praying that there is some type of movement on the boot loader because otherwise this going to be one expensive paper weight.
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floodingaugust said:
Well the device was a gift I can't just bring it back.
Basically Amazon banned me for some dumb ass reason literally like my neighbor got in trouble so now I can't use it. and when I try to buy **** on the kindle I can't use that store either so I am praying that there is some type of movement on the boot loader because otherwise this going to be one expensive paper weight.
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I'm not sure you are following. 1mobile market and or side loaded apk's along with a custom loader bypasses all of what you just said right now. Also, in the last few days, the play store has even been made to download on both the 7 inch and 8.9. In other words go to the general section and read, root, and install working play store on kindle and then use apex and wallpaper fix with widgets and you basically have a Google tablet with an Amazon options bar. As people get exposed framework going it will get even better than that. Boot loader crack is not necessary to make this a Google tablet. As for pure Google well that would be great for some, or cm 10.3 for others but in the end all of that is really just ui and a few options. The necessities of downloading from Google market and some customization can all be accomplished right this second. I have very few apps from Amazon on my tablet in fact. Most are Google market apps. As the bright boys spend more time with this tablet it will become even easier for the less experienced users to accomplish these things as well.
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I'm not sure you are following. 1mobile market and or side loaded apk's along with a custom loader bypasses all of what you just said right now. Also, in the last few days, the play store has even been made to download on both the 7 inch and 8.9. In other words go to the general section and read, root, and install working play store on kindle and then use apex and wallpaper fix with widgets and you basically have a Google tablet with an Amazon options bar. As people get exposed framework going it will get even better than that. Boot loader crack is not necessary to make this a Google tablet. As for pure Google well that would be great for some, or cm 10.3 for others but in the end all of that is really just ui and a few options. The necessities of downloading from Google market and some customization can all be accomplished right this second. I have very few apps from Amazon on my tablet in fact. Most are Google market apps. As the bright boys spend more time with this tablet it will become even easier for the less experienced users to accomplish these things as well.
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Really? So is the carousel thing on your kindle is gone? Just the top bar? Sweet.
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Well the device was a gift I can't just bring it back.
Basically Amazon banned me for some dumb ass reason literally like my neighbor got in trouble so now I can't use it. and when I try to buy **** on the kindle I can't use that store either so I am praying that there is some type of movement on the boot loader because otherwise this going to be one expensive paper weight.
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How in the hell does one get banned from amazon?!?