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Let's talk Music (Foobar & Android)

These two things seem like the would be perfect for each other. Why hasn't foobar stepped up?
Currently I'm using foobars included transfer to reencode and transfer my music to my phone. It's currently on the 4gb card, just moving to an 8 gb card now, but that's still not enough. I know I know cloud syncing is coming blah blah blah, but what about those times you don't have 3g reception or wifi?
Either way, I've looked around, but I can't find anything foobar & android related that would work like doublesync(I don't really care to move to yet ANOTHER music manger on my computer, foobar is up to snuff for me).

Try mspot, cloud based sycning. It downloads the music you stream to your phone. You can delete it later if you choose to or if your running out of storage. Its private beta now, but I signed up and they accepted me a day later. Works good so far.
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That's a paid service though. I saw a brief interview where they mention 2 gigs for 2.99 a month or so.

It is free right now, also if you fill out a 10 question survey you get 4gb. Even if it goes to a paid service it gives you 4gb to play with for now.
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Google Music Beta is live.

http://music.google.com/. Go get an invite.

Another "Outside of U.S need not apply" situation.
How can I continue to exercise my Google fanboidom?!

https://market.android.com/details?id=com.google.android.music&feature=search_result

How long did they take to send the invite? I've requested one through a proxy, with Google Voice i received it in minutes...

Was there an app for this already on the A500 ? Yesterday evening I turned on the tablet and right away it had an update from google music. I never noticed the widget before until I saw the update.

Right, the app is already on our tablets (which I linked to a few posts up) and if you visit the market, it might even tell you to update it - however the service - the cloud storage part - is by invite.
So, while you can use the app, it's local only.

How long does it take for an invite?
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me wants invite!
I was swearing up and down after Engadget's review of this stuff this morning. They basically blamed Google for coming out with an app that doesn't meld with the ISP's outrageously stupid and unfair data tiers and caps. UNBELIEVABLE.

I have moved some albums into the a500 music folder from my computer. I looked everywhere on my tablet and cant find anything that I moved but I can see them in the folder on my computer what gives ?

Has anyone gotten in!!!! i'm begging them to let me in!!!!!

Nothing yet...
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I requested an invite on the 10th and haven't heard anything back yet either.

poeticdecision said:
Has anyone gotten in!!!! i'm begging them to let me in!!!!!
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You should keep submitting. With the same email. Over and over and over again... (;
We're rootin' fer'ya!

I definitely can't wait for this to go public.
I love sticking it to the record companies for not being progressive and hugging their money.
DOWN WITH THE MAN!
That and I don't have to copy my music across many devices anymore...

I tried that approach but it only registers once and says only registered... Music is my favorite passtime it would make things alot easier

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I got my invite today. I registered for it as soon as the invite link went live the day of Google I/O. I'm here at work so I haven't had a chance to play with it yet. I did active it though and when you're in activating it, it gives you the option of some free songs depending on the genre you like. Hopefully I can upload some of my music tonight and have a full report on this later.

Sounds good. Grats.
Even though I requested an invite, I won't use the service. I have all my music on my tab.

I got my invite yesterday. Deleted the free songs (um no thanks for the 100 songs I won't listen too).
There is a limit to 20,000 songs, found out yesterday my entire library is 29,000 plus songs.
Takes FOREVER to upload songs, BUT surprisingly there is WMA support in the cloud. They must be re-compressing stuff during the upload.
It's a pretty cool thing, but Audiogalaxy is MUCH faster.

Use the Amazon Cloud Music app. available right now and works just as well, if not better.

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Use the Amazon Cloud Music app. available right now and works just as well, if not better.
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Yeah, except for the whole 5GB limit. Google Music has a 20k song limit...

is google music going to stay free?

I got the beta invite a few days ago, and its totally replaced iTunes for me. Fast, clean interface that lets me edit id3 tags and has a bunch of other useful features. Couldn't get any better, and I would hate to lose it.

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I got the beta invite a few days ago, and its totally replaced iTunes for me. Fast, clean interface that lets me edit id3 tags and has a bunch of other useful features. Couldn't get any better, and I would hate to lose it.
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No they have stated eventually they will charge...but who knows how long that will be

My guess is that they will probably have a free version for a limited amount of songs like 5-10K, then charge for anything above that.

that would be nice to give a limited free version. I'm in the UK so can't get at the Beta

I would hope that they just include it in the Google cloud storage pricing, i wouldn't mind a bit to pay for 200 gigs. I already pay for 100 every year for photo storage in picasa, and that same 100 applies to docs, picasa, and email.
But, if they want to charge above that for it, I will probably just be more selective about what I upload. I think I have a few duplicates up there anyways....
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I don't know but if/ when they do idk...What I mean is idk if it will be 100% safe to upload my downloaded songs. I mean will google delete music downloaded for free?

how could they tell? downloaded music shows up the same as music you rip from a cd.

Google recently commented that 48 hours worth of video is uploaded to YouTube every minute.
I'm supposing that 20k songs will stay free on Google Music beta with songs in excess of that counting against your paid for shared cloud storage (picasa, etc.)
At least, that's what I'm hoping.

Best MP3 Cloud service

What is the best free mp3 cloud service? Amazon cloud has a nice layout and streams nicely but only gives 5gb free. Microsoft skydrive gives 25gb but the player is pretty crappy and takes awhile to load. Are there any other free cloud drives similar to amazon with more memory?

Google Music. Free. Up to 20,000 songs. Listen on any computer or any Android device. Enough said.

Audiogalaxy IMHO, but you have to keep your computer on to stream your music.

google music sounds awesome but how do i get into the beta? anyone have an invite code?
thanks.

Goggle music beta hands down..... I don't think they're still doing invites (call me out if I'm wrong lol )
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Goggle music beta hands down..... I don't think they're still doing invites (call me out if I'm wrong lol )
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I don't think they are :/
But since I have an invite will it stay free even after it gets out of beta ?
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ac16313 said:
I don't think they are :/
But since I have an invite will it stay free even after it gets out of beta ?
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I'm not sure.... I use beta all the time and would hate to have to pay for it..... maybe they'll keep beta open to the people who already use it and just open up a new server for the paid accounts

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I'm not sure.... I use beta all the time and would hate to have to pay for it..... maybe they'll keep beta open to the people who already use it and just open up a new server for the paid accounts
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I hope so this is great, would hate to see it go away.
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If you don't have it yet, head to http://music.google.com to request an invite. Might take them a while to give you one though.

And who knows how long it will be in beta status. Gmail was in beta for over five years...and it is still free.

Thank dtugg for the link
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amazon gives you 20gb storage "free" if you buy any album (not 5gb...)...

ac16313 said:
I don't think they are :/
But since I have an invite will it stay free even after it gets out of beta ?
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It does say "Music Beta is available free for a limited time." So they are at least implying their intent to charge for the service. If that actually comes to be is anybody's guess.

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It does say "Music Beta is available free for a limited time." So they are at least implying their intent to charge for the service. If that actually comes to be is anybody's guess.
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this could also imply that music beta is available for a limited time as well
trying to be optimistic hahaha

Haven't seen mspot mentioned. It's pretty good, with some odd restrictions (the music has to all come from the same computer, though it does get stored on their server).
I didn't realize you could stream with skydrive.

I really enjoy amazon cloud. It has web and android apps. It has very simple transfer from client to cloud and back. And every time I buy any music from amazon, it's right there for me. Size isn't an issue as I really only need my favorite songs accessable frm everywhere. 5gb would be enough but I easily buy an album a year which will keep my storage at 20gb.
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Google has already stated at I/O that Google Music will not be a fully free service.
Amazon MP3 has a fast uploader, and if you buy a digital copy, there is no upload time at all - just hits your music library almost instantly.
I think the player is clunky and the UI kind of slugish on our phones and the Moto Xoom.
The playlist shuffle feature BLOWS on amazon
Google Music has a really great interface, well integrated with the device, but that damn uploader is so EFING SLOW!
Shuffle actually shuffles and does it nicely.

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amazon gives you 20gb storage "free" if you buy any album (not 5gb...)...
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for a year only. Not sure if you'll have to buy another one to keep 20 Gb, but you'll have to pay for extra 15Gb. BTW the music that you bought at Amazon and store in their cloud does not count toward your total. That is another plus for them.
I do not think Google up-loader is slow. Last time I put two albums in my music folder and switched to Google Music site, they already were present there.
I like both services and wish for a Black/dark theme for Amazon player.

I vote for Google Music, it took me a week non stop to upload 9000+ songs and I have a 1.5Mbps upload speed at home.
I haven't found an easy way to upload via Amazon unless it has changed since I signed up when it first came out. You have to upload each album/song manually which is unlike google music which scans your folder that you select and uploads all the compatible music to the cloud, at it's own damn pace.

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Audiogalaxy IMHO, but you have to keep your computer on to stream your music.
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here's another vote for audiogalaxy.

Remove iTunes DRM for use with S4

Can anyone recommend a good free converter that will change my .m4p files to mp3 for use with my S4 / other devices. I hate restrictions on the stuff I PAID for. Looks like I may have just installed a faulty program trying to search myself. Any help would be appreciated
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I haven't worked with m4p files in a LONG time, but back when I was in college, I used to make "CDs" out of them with an old application that made sort of an iso of the CD format, and just ripped in back into mp3 format. Ended up create a small script that would do that for a list of songs. I'm pretty sure someone has created an app to do that by now. If all else fails, you can go at it the old fashion way - burn and rip.

I think this is against XDA rules man. As much as you might have payed, you payed for licensing from Apple and they dictate the terms
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I think this is against XDA rules man. As much as you might have payed, you payed for licensing from Apple and they dictate the terms
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I wasn't exactly looking to send all my music out for free in a share network. Just looking to get it to work on my PERSONAL device. I understand where you are coming from though. Talking with Apple now as I believe you used to be able to burn your songs to a disk in mp3. Not sure if it's because I am trying to do it with a data dvd-rw but each time the songs remain in the same format. Love the benefits I get for actually paying for my music. Not trying to do anything shady haha. Just looking for my music on my device
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Mike on XDA said:
I wasn't exactly looking to send all my music out for free in a share network. Just looking to get it to work on my PERSONAL device. I understand where you are coming from though. Talking with Apple now as I believe you used to be able to burn your songs to a disk in mp3. Not sure if it's because I am trying to do it with a data dvd-rw but each time the songs remain in the same format. Love the benefits I get for actually paying for my music. Not trying to do anything shady haha. Just looking for my music on my device
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I still buy all my music from itunes and it has always worked on my android phones. IIRC Apple convered to non-DRM many years ago. Anything you bought before that they gave you an option to convert (for a price).

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I still buy all my music from itunes and it has always worked on my android phones. IIRC Apple convered to non-DRM many years ago. Anything you bought before that they gave you an option to convert (for a price).
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Just got off the phone with a rep and I should be able to get those older tracks dmr free in the way of redownloading. The songs unfortunately are too far back to be listed for direct download in my purchase history. I have to go on chat support and give all the individual order numbers listed in my invoice looking purchase history. Certainly not ideal, but better than nothing.
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Mike on XDA said:
Just got off the phone with a rep and I should be able to get those older tracks dmr free in the way of redownloading. The songs unfortunately are too far back to be listed for direct download in my purchase history. I have to go on chat support and give all the individual order numbers listed in my invoice looking purchase history. Certainly not ideal, but better than nothing.
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I tested it out with my account, and anything that I purchase back when I owned a 3GS remains DRM'd. If Apple's willing to help you, that's awesome. There might be some issue about when you bought it and what the EULA was back then. Hopefully Apple can help you through that.
On a side note, Amazon MP3 FTW!

Back off a long chat with support.
iTunes plus has been discontinued and I have yet to get my music burned to a disk in .mp3 format from .m4p. I keep trying in iTunes but haven't been successful yet using a dvd-rw. Not sure if it makes a difference so I will try a cd-r in a minute. The only current way to get the songs DRM free is by subscribing to iTunes Match. From what I understand it scans your library, upgrades lower bit versions of songs and allow you to download DRM free versions of your purchased tracks. $25 a year upfront.
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Mike on XDA said:
Back off a long chat with support.
iTunes plus has been discontinued and I have yet to get my music burned to a disk in .mp3 format from .m4p. I keep trying in iTunes but haven't been successful yet using a dvd-rw. Not sure if it makes a difference so I will try a cd-r in a minute. The only current way to get the songs DRM free is by subscribing to iTunes Match. From what I understand it scans your library, upgrades lower bit versions of songs and allow you to download DRM free versions of your purchased tracks. $25 a year upfront.
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The official way is to make Music CD disks from iTunes - basically the M4P is turned into a WAV file and you get to put 12 or so on a CD. You lose all the tags, then you can re-rip to MP3. There are some software solutions (I have seen ads) but i have not tried them.

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The official way is to make Music CD disks from iTunes - basically the M4P is turned into a WAV file and you get to put 12 or so on a CD. You lose all the tags, then you can re-rip to MP3. There are some software solutions (I have seen ads) but i have not tried them.
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Yeah, every time I rip them though there are large discrepancies on the time for each track. They are in unprotected format after but some cut off halfway and others last longer than they should with just blank audio. For example Free Fallin by Tom Petty is 4:16 on iTunes but 14:25 on the disk. It is just blank for the extra 10 min while other tracks are cut off with not enough time. I don't understand... This is quite the pain and I'm now out of disks.
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DVD Fab has itunes DRM removal built into it. I think they have a free trial of it, not sure though.