Already, I was able to use Double twist to get my music off of iTunes and into my Xoom, that was pretty simple, and all is well.
I am going on vacation next Sunday, and I am going to need some movies to watch. Typically on my iPad, I can rent or buy a movie on iTunes and simply watch it.
I need to know the following:
1. Is there anyway to get protected movies off of iTunes and into the Xoom? I would rather not spend 10 hours ripping and burning a few movies.
2. What are my choices for movie download locations? Reliable, and virus free?
3. My experience with the Xoom has been a very positive one to this point, I just need a reliable and hopefully not a time consuming method to buy/rent movies, and/or a method to get movies already purchased from iTunes into the Xoom.
Thank you!!!
I don't know if this is the advice you are lookng for but you can always "barrow" movies from the internet via a torrent or download site like filestube. Although I haven't explored it yet, I believe amazon.com has some kind of video on demand service which would be comparable to iTunes video service I suppose. But until the xoom has flash support even that isn't an option. As far as the "barrowing" method originally mentioned, I wouldn't worry about viruses. The virus would have to be written for the android operating system and I dont think you will encounter that at this stage. This of course only applies if you are going to be downloading directly through three xoom. If you plan to use your PC first then transfer to the xoom, then I guess a little concern might be warranted, as always.
But the android market does have torrent apps, so direct downloads to the xoom is a viable option. Also torrent sites like btjunkie will have reviews/comments to give you an idea whether the file does what it says it should.
Also filestube can be used directly from the xoom. As far as finding good files, generally you want to look for results that have the movie name (or sometimes its abbreviation), the year it was made, "xvid", and that it its already in a watchable format i.e avi,mp4,etc.
These tend to almost always be bonafide files. Hope this helps.
Google really needs to get media support for their devices otherwise they will always border on the line of niche geek devices.
Op, I have been trying to answer your #1 question for many months...please share if you find a way to remove drm from iTunes movies!
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I have used a torrent client on my Nook Color to download a ep of Fringe it played flawless. It was only TV HD on not 720p but looked excellent. I think it took 10 minutes for a 325 Mb file no computer needed at all. I used rock player to play it. I would expect the xoom to have no trouble doing this.
Not sure what format it uses, but the Amazon Video market has an option for downloading for use on portable devices. It does look like you would have to start the process on your computer and then transfer the files to the device, but it might be pretty easy.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/video/ontv/player/ref=atv_getstarted_player
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1. Is there anyway to get protected movies off of iTunes and into the Xoom? I would rather not spend 10 hours ripping and burning a few movies.
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Stripping the DRM is something I haven't seen yet, however, on other Android forums, I've seen the program Tunebite mentioned a couple of times.
It basically records the file while it is being played on your computer (similar to what "other" drm removal tools do, but supposedly, it accesses the file differently, enabling it to run faster.
I have no experience with it myself though. I tend to stay away from those kinds of files myself.
It sure seems like there's a golden opportunity here for Amazon to be the Android equivalent of iTunes for purchases of movies, TV shows and music.
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It sure seems like there's a golden opportunity here for Amazon to be the Android equivalent of iTunes for purchases of movies, TV shows and music.
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Amazon video on demand works right from the XOOM's browser. I haven't been able to copy anything to the actual device from the service, but you can at least stream all your Amazon videos.
Why do they make it soo hard to download movies and video legally? I've had such a hard time with DRM and such, that I've had to resort to other methods to get my media on my portables. I hate this soo much, I have no problem paying for my content, but if it is harder to pay them for it, than it is to "borrow" it, then why oh why would I pay for it? I would also like to see an answer to the OP. /end rant
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Stripping the DRM is something I haven't seen yet, however, on other Android forums, I've seen the program Tunebite mentioned a couple of times.
It basically records the file while it is being played on your computer (similar to what "other" drm removal tools do, but supposedly, it accesses the file differently, enabling it to run faster.
I have no experience with it myself though. I tend to stay away from those kinds of files myself.
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A tool called requiem will remove the DRM. You're on your own to find it though.
#2 I grab my movies from tehparadox.com I have never dl'ed any viruses from that site. Plus its an active site if theirs a problem with at post ppl will always let you know before you download
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www.imp4movies.com works for me.
Read my post on what u need to know before u buy Xoom
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there's a great program called DVDCatalysts4 that encodes DVD's & Blue Ray's just great.
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Why do they make it soo hard to download movies and video legally? I've had such a hard time with DRM and such, that I've had to resort to other methods to get my media on my portables. I hate this soo much, I have no problem paying for my content, but if it is harder to pay them for it, than it is to "borrow" it, then why oh why would I pay for it? I would also like to see an answer to the OP. /end rant
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I am not sure, but here in the Netherlands downloading movies is legal. Uploading is not. At this moment usenet is a excellent source especially with Spotnet. Works like a charm after the authorities closed down FTD (database of this program was in the Netherlands, but was no longer considered legal). Spotnet however is new designed and has a database on usenet itself which is impossible to shutdown.
All movies, music, series can be found there in topnotch quality and downloading goes with 12MB (that is MegaByte per second), depending on your internet account ofcourse. We in the Netherlands have a maximum of 120Mbit at this moment.
Not sure if it will also works overseas, but you could give it a try.
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What's the best place to download movies to your phone. Do any of you guys download them directly to your phones? What format do they have to be in on the computer to put on your phone? I know my iphone was mpeg4. Keeping my kids busy on road trips, plane trips and restaurants is of paramount importance. I'd like to find a place to download some kids movies. Preferably for cheaper than $20. yuck. But I am not into stealing them so don't bother with torrent sites. The people that made them deserve to get paid for their craft.
Buy a dvd, rip it and convert. Works beautifully and legal to do.
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I am using the the early version of Dolphin Browser HD to download movies straight from YouTube. Works great, fast and free.
I've used Mobilism.org
Download to SD card, then watch, then transfer to laptop for safe keeping/storage.
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I download original copies from torrents and transfer them to my evo.
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rip the dvd's stright into mp4's with handbrake
I use an internet communications device to download them.
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I use an internet communications device to download them.
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Classic!!! But true!!
Yeah I have ripped dvds before but it's just getting harder due to the studios. I'd rather them go straight to my device.
xda-dev supports linking to and discussion of piracy? well i'll be damned
I've seen a few YouTube downloaders... but is there an app that allows you to save non-Youtube flash videos, like say from TankSpot (for World of Warcraft strategy guides) or Break.com?
Sprintusersforum.com has some movies posted under the old instinct board
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this discussion wasn't about piracy, the OP specifically said that he didn't want to do that.
handbrake is a great utility for converting dvds to appropriate formats. if you have a digital copy, you may be able to directly drag it over, or you can use handbrake to convert it to the right version.
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I use an internet communications device to download them.
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I really really hate your bling bling whatever . Brought back horrid memories of the hell that was Calculus 141 - Differential Calculus in university. 'tis not fun not being smart in maths believe me.
I've found this site to work well and the prices to be pretty reasonable.www.ipod-lounge.com.You can download straight to your phone or to you pc and then just copy to your sd card.
Ok. So the media hub is out. Looks like you can rent and/or own movies depending on title. The renting is 2.99. I've found own for 9.99 and 12.99. I'm a little worried about paying DVD prices (or somewhat less for some titles) and not getting the DVD, or getting the ability to transfer to another viewing device, ie. dvd, computer. Anyone know what the lowdown is on transfers, etc? I know I've had a hard time trying to find a movie that I can actually put on this phone via dvd ripping from my own dvd library (if that's even legal) or for download from any legal source online. At least the media hub has that going for it.
Anyone know if there are other avenues to actually use the awesome power of this device to watch movies in my palm? Is Media Hub better than?
Ps. I think it is funny that Forrest Gump is listed as comedy. Nice job classifying that one guys.
it still says coming soon for me :/
*edit* oh nevermind i see, its a system update to get it. XD
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Ps. I think it is funny that Forrest Gump is listed as comedy. Nice job classifying that one guys.
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I thought it was funny....
Anyone guess what my favorite part of Forrest Gump is?
hint: look at my avatar
When will we get Avatar? I thought it was suppose to come with all Galaxy S phones.
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When will we get Avatar? I thought it was suppose to come with all Galaxy S phones.
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Nope, just Vibrant as far as I can tell.
Does it bill to your Sprint bill or is there separate payment information?
probably have to stop by the store so they can take a melon baller to your seat cushion.
I'm not really sure how the payment works. I exchanged my phone today due to the back button issue. Now I haven't received the new update yet.
Media hub payments
Ok. So I broke down and bought the latest star trek. Basically, you enter your credit card information into Media Hub the app stores it there (actually, I think it stores it on Samsung's server). I don't think there are any alternatives. Now, based on the current download rate and percentage, I should be able to watch it sometime next week.
I LOL'ed
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Now, based on the current download rate and percentage, I should be able to watch it sometime next week.
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3G? 4G? Wifi? On 4G, the previews always played for me instantly. Even the 2 and a half minute trailers.
I watched a few previews over 4g. I have to admit the video quality was excellent and playback smooth. This might be good for an occasional rental, but once netflix comes out for Android they can kiss this goodbye.
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download speed and AllShare
Well it looks like there is no AllShare support. Can't push this thing to my TV (actually PS3) for viewing. The movie doesn't show up in the AllShare list. I'm not surprised I guess, just disappointed. My guess is that the movie is not being stored in any meaningful format so AllShare couldn't read it if it wanted to. Of course, there could be a way around or some setting I'm missing. I don't think it's a setting at this point though. Media Hub has no settings anywhere that I can find.
The video quality is pretty awesome, no skips, studders, sloops, woops, or whillips. The sounds wasn't *bad*. It's a decent movie viewing experience - even for a big screen action blockbuster. Would be awesome during a long flight, or similar, without having to drag along extra electronics.
However, combined with there currently being no mini-usb to hdmi cable means no support to watch Media Hub movies on a bigger screen. Looks like I'm back to looking for another solution to watching movies on my phone. 12 bucks isn't really a good investment vs. the actual DVD/Blueray (3 dollars more on Amazon). If I was wealthier, maybe. I think this means I won't be using Media Hub, except for the one movie I already paid for.
About the download speed:
I didn't bother trying to watch it before the download was finished so I don't know if that is possible. I think it was a 1-2 hour download but I didn't keep track, maybe I could have started it sooner. Not to bad I guess (over wifi). I couldn't imagine doing this over 3g...definitely an overnight thing.
sorry if this has been hashed out somewhere else but i could not find it. does anyone know if you will be able to watch hulu on the transformer. my guess is no but alas i still have to ask thanks a lot
Hulu doesn't allow any mobile device to play their video, except for devices supported by Hulu+ (which I think is only iOS devices at this point).
I've been using PlayOn TV for both Netflix and Hulu on my Xoom, and it works well enough. Needs a Windows PC to stream the video, and it costs a bit of money, but actually still works out less than Hulu+ so it's a bit of a wash at this point.
Use the included My Desktop feature to watch Hulu.
that's what i thought. its pretty lame for those of us who want to use them as a laptop replacement
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that's what i thought. its pretty lame for those of us who want to use them as a laptop replacement
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I agree, but be thankful that you can take your Android device out of a box and start using it - with iOs, you are forced to use a computer to "activate" the device. What a PITA!
agreed i had a iphone 4 it was jailbroken. well anyways i tryed to do a master reset so i could sell it and low and behold it forced me to update to the latest software and firmware. it sure was a pain to sell it after that, now i have HTC inspire and much more happy
Actually, there is a flash player mod that hex edits the lib file to trick hulu into thinking your a windows PC. It works great on the incredible aand the xoom (I'm told) :,but whether that will work with transformer is another story.
Also, to the best of my knowledge, it requires root.
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dont mean to bring up an old thread but in case anyone is wondering .. using the hacked flash apk, i was able to stream through hulu.com .. works good and although its not in HD, the quality is very good!
http://asustransform.com/2011/06/08...ss-hulus-pejudice-on-asus-eeepad-transformer/
I was just thinking about the whole movie rental thing not being available to root users because they are lumping us all in with thieves. How's this for a solution?
Instead of making it where we can't rent movies, can't they just make it where we aren't able to download them to the device (in other words, no pinning.) and only make them streamable? I would be happy with that. I mean, it would suck for flights and stuff where you don't have a connection, but It'd be better than the solution that they've currently got going.
Thoughts?
screw that they get no money
the movie industry can continue to screw themselves over
Yeah I dont understand... it just gives people a REASON to Pirate movies.
"oh I cant rent this movie on my tablet? Fine then I'll just hit up a torrent site"
Expecting the media copyright holders to be reasonable might be a bit naive
Google has to go along with whatever crazy **** they demand to license their content.
I have no problem whatsoever paying for a rental. I pay for netflix, hulu and frequently comcast on-demand stuff already. If I want to watch a movie on my tablet though, and the easiest thing to do is hit up usenet, then so be it. It usually downloads faster that way anyway.
If they want my money, they just have to make it convenient or at the very least not annoying...
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I have no problem whatsoever paying for a rental. I pay for netflix, hulu and frequently comcast on-demand stuff already. If I want to watch a movie on my tablet though, and the easiest thing to do is hit up usenet, then so be it. It usually downloads faster that way anyway.
If they want my money, they just have to make it convenient or at the very least not annoying...
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My sentiment exactly!
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Yeah I dont understand... it just gives people a REASON to Pirate movies.
"oh I cant rent this movie on my tablet? Fine then I'll just hit up a torrent site"
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Amen, brother.
Has anyone tried Amazon's video service? Not sure if it works on the Xoom / if it uses a special player.
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On another thread someone said that rooted Xooms could rent Google movies, just rent them through the web-based market. I haven't tried it yet.
web market works
Web market works for movie rentals through the native browser, helps to be logged into YouTube with the purchasing account through the browser as well. Also u have to set the quality lower if u didn't purchase the HD version. Works fine on my rooted 3.1 xoom. I have the hulu 10.3 and I believe the root 3.1 included the ua-string. I get errors trying to watch it through the native video app and I can't figure out how to open it in the native YouTube app, but full screen works fine through the browser streaming.
Same applies to watching it through browser on any computer too, we should get more then a day to watch it through...
Just purchase mega viewer pro... problem solved lol
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Web market works for movie rentals through the native browser, helps to be logged into YouTube with the purchasing account through the browser as well. Also u have to set the quality lower if u didn't purchase the HD version. Works fine on my rooted 3.1 xoom. I have the hulu 10.3 and I believe the root 3.1 included the ua-string. I get errors trying to watch it through the native video app and I can't figure out how to open it in the native YouTube app, but full screen works fine through the browser streaming.
Same applies to watching it through browser on any computer too, we should get more then a day to watch it through...
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Does it allowed to be downloaded/pinned? I'd like to find a solution for watching offline as I travel often.
All this is going to do is make people want to pirate movies. If it isn't easy to just purchase the movie than people are just going to go through other routes to get it on their device.
They are targeting root users, root users are the ones that know how to get stuff on the device without having to go through the market. In my opinion they will for sure lose more money by doing this.
Tried to find a relevent thread to put this under but they mainly seem to be about apks and under different phone discussions ...
So what with USB OTG looking unlikely (at least for the meantime, but maybe forever) for the Nexus 4 and no SD card slot I find myself in the position of sort of being strongarmed into using Google Music.
My question here is about pirated music. I'm sure my collection (alike to most peoples) isn't entirely free of this, and if it counts the CD's I converted into mp3s when I first bought an mp3 player then it definitely isn't.
So I have no problem if google music deletes anything that it doesn't deem legit, that's cool. I'm not however cool with them then notifying sony or something and a million dollar (pound) lawsuit then being dropped on me ... I've been doing some googling but haven't really found much of a discussion about this.
Anyone got 2 cents to add in? Is it safe to upload everything to google music and then let them sort it out?
You'll be fine.
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have a few songs on there for quite some time now and no issues so far?
I've uploaded my entire music collection to both Google Music AND the Amazon Cloud Player and I'm sure there some pirated albums in there.. but nothing has been deleted and no police have smashed my doors in.
You'll be fine. The Google service is very good too - the tag editing is much better than Amazon's for example. I no longer need a PC to manage my music. I have a 16GB N4 and I created an "Essentials" playlist on Google Music containing my absolute favourite songs and I've made that permanent on the phone - so it downloaded all the songs automatically. And it's pretty sweet having access to your entire collection via a decent connection.
.....how would they even no ? Its not like you labeled them; song1 album6 stolen from artist 2. Lol
This is a question my parents would ask..I find it naive.
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.....how would they even no ? Its not like you labeled them; song1 album6 stolen from artist 2. Lol
This is a question my parents would ask..I find it naive.
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Well there are all sorts of data points they could compare, the easiest being to compare file size and the MD5 hash of known rips (although the latter is easily changed) but I presume they would use several different factors and maybe use some sort of spectral analysis and check any watermarks.
In fact youtube already does things along these lines.
I doubt they would catch on to CDs ripped by individual people, but for example, tracks from a popular torrent would be fairly simple to identify especially once vast numbers of people start uploading the exact same files, which don't correlate to a legitimate source.
It would be quite easy for google to compile a lists of things that were definitely pirated, and definitely legitimate. If you were in between you'd probably be fine too, but anything taken from a popular torrent i'd imagine would definitely fall into a blacklist.
There would be various ways around this, if necessary I'm sure someone will make an application to go through an subtly alter elements of your music collection to ensure it wouldn't match any database of known rips, maybe by inserting small silences (even if just a fraction of a second) at the beginning or end of tracks and changing a number of other attributes that wouldn't affect playback.
So yeah not naive at all, you just clearly didn't think about it enough.
It all comes down to if Google is bothering / cares and what action they intend to take if they do find material which obviously comes from a pirated source. As I mentioned if they just remove it - no problem could either circumvent their checks or purchase the missing songs, but if they may have to (even if not now but at a later date) give out the credentials of anyone whom they have found with pirated material that could be a problem.
I've looked around for posts like this with no luck and nothing on Google search as well. I am sure many people have lots of pirated music on there and I haven't heard of any issues whatsoever which is a good sign. Or they're waiting and lulling us into a false sense of confidence before screwing us all haha
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Well there are all sorts of data points they could compare, the easiest being to compare file size and the MD5 hash of known rips (although the latter is easily changed) but I presume they would use several different factors and maybe use some sort of spectral analysis and check any watermarks.
In fact youtube already does things along these lines.
I doubt they would catch on to CDs ripped by individual people, but for example, tracks from a popular torrent would be fairly simple to identify especially once vast numbers of people start uploading the exact same files, which don't correlate to a legitimate source.
It would be quite easy for google to compile a lists of things that were definitely pirated, and definitely legitimate. If you were in between you'd probably be fine too, but anything taken from a popular torrent i'd imagine would definitely fall into a blacklist.
There would be various ways around this, if necessary I'm sure someone will make an application to go through an subtly alter elements of your music collection to ensure it wouldn't match any database of known rips, maybe by inserting small silences (even if just a fraction of a second) at the beginning or end of tracks and changing a number of other attributes that wouldn't affect playback.
So yeah not naive at all, you just clearly didn't think about it enough.
It all comes down to if Google is bothering / cares and what action they intend to take if they do find material which obviously comes from a pirated source. As I mentioned if they just remove it - no problem could either circumvent their checks or purchase the missing songs, but if they may have to (even if not now but at a later date) give out the credentials of anyone whom they have found with pirated material that could be a problem.
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Just because your file matches the common torrent files doesn't mean it actually is the common torrent file. If two people rip and verify with AccurateRip the files -should- be identical.
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Tried to find a relevent thread to put this under but they mainly seem to be about apks and under different phone discussions ...
So what with USB OTG looking unlikely (at least for the meantime, but maybe forever) for the Nexus 4 and no SD card slot I find myself in the position of sort of being strongarmed into using Google Music.
My question here is about pirated music. I'm sure my collection (alike to most peoples) isn't entirely free of this, and if it counts the CD's I converted into mp3s when I first bought an mp3 player then it definitely isn't.
So I have no problem if google music deletes anything that it doesn't deem legit, that's cool. I'm not however cool with them then notifying sony or something and a million dollar (pound) lawsuit then being dropped on me ... I've been doing some googling but haven't really found much of a discussion about this.
Anyone got 2 cents to add in? Is it safe to upload everything to google music and then let them sort it out?
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They don't know what is legit or not it just uploads whatever is in your music collection. Don't ask me how I know I just do.
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They don't know what is legit or not it just uploads whatever is in your music collection. Don't ask me how I know I just do.
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Google employee in flimsy disguise? Haha
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Google is not the police. Google would make no money scaring people away by prosecuting people with files they may or may not know are illegal.
If a company wanted to invest a LOT of money in legal fees to somehow make a court force Google to release our private files so that said company can scan them for watermarks etc. you might be at risk, but I very much doubt an outside company could get the power to do that.
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Any new information about this since way back when this thread was? I know someone who isn't me that wants to use google play music, but they may or may not have some questionable music files. Is it cool to upload it?
It's fine. I use play music all the time and my collection isn't fully legit.
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April 4 2014: Google Patents a Way to Keep Pirated Content off of Google Play
http://www.droid-life.com/2014/04/04/google-patents-way-to-keep-pirated-content-off-of-play/