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So the FPS cap sucks, and the lag is frustrating, but I’m confident that these will be resolved as some point and I still love my launch day 002 EVO. Never had any of the physical issues that most other people had, with no screen separation or light leaks, and the last update seemed to fix the grounding issue (which was very rare and minor on my phone). The screen and size are just right for me. I’ve been waiting for this phone ever since I heard that HTC was working on a monster snapdragon phone at the end of last year. But I’ll still be trading it in for the Epic 4G. Why? DLNA.
I’ve been using an AT&T Tilt since it launched some 4 years ago (which is what I've been using until I got the EVO). It was great at the time, and has served me very well, what with loading custom ROMs and all. Even got Android working on it for a while (which was fun, but not very practical). One of the things I was able to do on the Tilt was the ability to map my shared home network media folders (which I use to stream media to my xbox360s) as a drive on the phone so that when I was connected to my home network over wifi on the phone, I could use coreplayer to stream all of my AVI files from my home network to my phone and watch them with virtually no stutter anywhere in the house.
I’ve yet to see any apps for android that will let me do that. Either you’re able to access the home networked files (with something like andromote), but it doesn’t play AVI files, or a decent AVI player is found (lovin’ Rockplayer), but will only play local files.
With the Epic 4G (and all of the Galaxy S variants, I think), not only can this be done, but it’s super simple through their Allshare app. And it plays AVI video files natively.
People say that you shouldn't choose a new phone based on possible future capabilities for your model of phone, that you're not even sure it will be getting - either through a hack, root, or an official update. The Epic is here, now (or will be soon), with my own personal killer app. So there you go. Why I’ll be switching to the Epic 4G on launch day.
It’s sort of win/win though – I’ll be giving the wife the EVO, and getting the Epic 4G for myself, so it will still stay in the family ;-)
oook !
i have no lag i dont play games on my phone so the 30fps thing is null for me
but enjoy
gmote seems to be in the process of adding streaming to the phone from home networks. Check it out.
wow there is 2 mins of my life I will never see again
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wow there is 2 mins of my life I will never see again
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Wow - Just think of all of the productive things you could have done instead...
Why, there are plenty of things you can do right in your own community. You can visit a dairy, and find out how milk is handled and prepared for delivery. Or plan a series of window displays on home safety. You can start a library. You can discuss with your dentist what you can do to make your teeth more attractive...
there is an app called ORB that does this dude...
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gmote seems to be in the process of adding streaming to the phone from home networks. Check it out.
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I actually did look at gmote, but their streaming plans seem to be limited to music files only.
Thanks for the suggestion, though.
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there is an app called ORB that does this dude...
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Tried orb - didn't care for the choppiness. With DLNA, we're talking same quality as loading the video onto the phone itself.
I stream videos just fine on my EVO and dont pay anyone anything:
# vlc -v video.avi -I dummy --sout "#transcode{vcodec=h264,venc=x264{no-cabac,level=12,vbv-maxrate=384,vbv-bufsize=1000,keyint=75,ref=3,bframes=0},width=320, height=180,acodec=mp4a,ab=64,vb=384}:rtp{dst=,port=4555,sdp=rtsp://server:4555/stream.sdp,mp4a-latm}"
Go to: rtsp://server:4555/stream.sdp in your browser and watch video.
I view dish network on my EVO using the following as well:
vlc -v vlc -v v4l2:///dev/video0 :v4l2-standard=3:v4l2-standard=45056 :v4l2-chroma= :v4l2-input=1 :v4l2-audio-input=0 :v4l2-io=1 :v4l2-width=640 :v4l2-height=480 -I dummy --sout "#transcode{vcodec=h264,venc=x264{no-cabac,level=12,vbv-maxrate=384,vbv-bufsize=1000,keyint=75,ref=3,bframes=0},width=320, height=180,acodec=mp4a,ab=64,vb=384}:rtp{dst=,port=4555,sdp=rtsp://server:4555/stream.sdp,mp4a-latm}"
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I stream videos just fine on my EVO and dont pay anyone anything:
# vlc -v video.avi -I dummy --sout "#transcode{vcodec=h264,venc=x264{no-cabac,level=12,vbv-maxrate=384,vbv-bufsize=1000,keyint=75,ref=3,bframes=0},width=320, height=180,acodec=mp4a,ab=64,vb=384}:rtp{dst=,port=4555,sdp=rtsp://server:4555/stream.sdp,mp4a-latm}"
Go to: rtsp://server:4555/stream.sdp in your browser and watch video
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Now this is something I find fascinating, but in all honesty, this seems to be a much more complicated solution, and I would be willing to try it, if the solution on the Epic wasn't so elegant.
Question though - I have all of my media meticulously organized into various folders for movie genre and TV shows/seasons, which makes browsing to the right video file easy. How does browsing for the correct video file form the phone work on your end?
zonyl said:
I stream videos just fine on my EVO and dont pay anyone anything:
# vlc -v video.avi -I dummy --sout "#transcode{vcodec=h264,venc=x264{no-cabac,level=12,vbv-maxrate=384,vbv-bufsize=1000,keyint=75,ref=3,bframes=0},width=320, height=180,acodec=mp4a,ab=64,vb=384}:rtp{dst=,port=4555,sdp=rtsp://server:4555/stream.sdp,mp4a-latm}"
Go to: rtsp://server:4555/stream.sdp in your browser and watch video.
I view dish network on my EVO using the following as well:
vlc -v vlc -v v4l2:///dev/video0 :v4l2-standard=3:v4l2-standard=45056 :v4l2-chroma= :v4l2-input=1 :v4l2-audio-input=0 :v4l2-io=1 :v4l2-width=640 :v4l2-height=480 -I dummy --sout "#transcode{vcodec=h264,venc=x264{no-cabac,level=12,vbv-maxrate=384,vbv-bufsize=1000,keyint=75,ref=3,bframes=0},width=320, height=180,acodec=mp4a,ab=64,vb=384}:rtp{dst=,port=4555,sdp=rtsp://server:4555/stream.sdp,mp4a-latm}"
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holy crap that's some low quality
320x180
video: 384
audio: 64
i'm guessing you need VLC and DSS for this? or just VLC
i've actually been trying to get something like this figured out for a bit now but just haven't gotten my brain wrapped around it. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6495551#post6495551
zonyl said:
I stream videos just fine on my EVO and dont pay anyone anything:
# vlc -v video.avi -I dummy --sout "#transcode{vcodec=h264,venc=x264{no-cabac,level=12,vbv-maxrate=384,vbv-bufsize=1000,keyint=75,ref=3,bframes=0},width=320, height=180,acodec=mp4a,ab=64,vb=384}:rtp{dst=,port=4555,sdp=rtsp://server:4555/stream.sdp,mp4a-latm}"
Go to: rtsp://server:4555/stream.sdp in your browser and watch video.
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Sorry for the novice question, but where do I input the above to set this up using Windows??
Anyone try?:
"We even offer a mobile version of our server. Currently available free in the Android™ app store, TwonkyServer Mobile lets you serve music, photos or video from your phone to devices all around the home."
http://www.twonkymedia.com/products/twonkyserver/
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Anyone try?:
"We even offer a mobile version of our server. Currently available free in the Android™ app store, TwonkyServer Mobile lets you serve music, photos or video from your phone to devices all around the home."
http://www.twonkymedia.com/products/twonkyserver/
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Tried enough to see that it was almost what I wanted. Unless I missed something, this will only allow you to stream from android to a DLNA device, but not the other way around. They also appear ot have a solution that will allow you to download files from the DLNA server to the andoid phone, but I don't want to download any of the files to the phone, just stream.
Shoot em' an email [email protected] &/or try their other support options-forums, let us know how it goes,
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DLNA is nice, but I cant fast forward movies from my computer...... HDMI/USB connect FTW!
Why wasn't this added as a reply to one of the other Epic threads (of which there are too many for an Evo forum)?
Samsung sucks
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Samsung sucks
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lol sure thats why they have released source code with drivers for the galaxy s before the phone was released. Thats why there cpu thats 1 ghz almost runs 2x faster then snapdragon. Thats why there code runs 20% faster then other android phone. Thats why they get 90 million triangles per sec and evo gets get 12. Thats why they have avi support and the best screen on any android phone because they suck right?
Anyway I am getting one as well and I would give my evo to the wife but she does not want it. She likes her N1 way better. I will never buy a crap htc phone again. I am so glad that Samsung has released the source code and are allowing us to mod the phone. I think they have learned from there past mistakes.
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lol sure thats why they have released source code with drivers for the galaxy s before the phone was released. Thats why there cpu thats 1 ghz almost runs 2x faster then snapdragon. Thats why there code runs 20% faster then other android phone. Thats why they get 90 million triangles per sec and evo gets get 12. Thats why they have avi support and the best screen on any android phone because they suck right?
Anyway I am getting one as well and I would give my evo to the wife but she does not want it. She likes her N1 way better. I will never buy a crap htc phone again. I am so glad that Samsung has released the source code and are allowing us to mod the phone. I think they have learned from there past mistakes.
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I never knew this turned into a bad mouth HTC thread. Go ahead and get your samsung, but don't come crying to us when something goes wrong, or you want features that you can get on the evo and not your phone.
Already, I was able to use Double twist to get my music off of iTunes and into my Xoom, that was pretty simple, and all is well.
I am going on vacation next Sunday, and I am going to need some movies to watch. Typically on my iPad, I can rent or buy a movie on iTunes and simply watch it.
I need to know the following:
1. Is there anyway to get protected movies off of iTunes and into the Xoom? I would rather not spend 10 hours ripping and burning a few movies.
2. What are my choices for movie download locations? Reliable, and virus free?
3. My experience with the Xoom has been a very positive one to this point, I just need a reliable and hopefully not a time consuming method to buy/rent movies, and/or a method to get movies already purchased from iTunes into the Xoom.
Thank you!!!
I don't know if this is the advice you are lookng for but you can always "barrow" movies from the internet via a torrent or download site like filestube. Although I haven't explored it yet, I believe amazon.com has some kind of video on demand service which would be comparable to iTunes video service I suppose. But until the xoom has flash support even that isn't an option. As far as the "barrowing" method originally mentioned, I wouldn't worry about viruses. The virus would have to be written for the android operating system and I dont think you will encounter that at this stage. This of course only applies if you are going to be downloading directly through three xoom. If you plan to use your PC first then transfer to the xoom, then I guess a little concern might be warranted, as always.
But the android market does have torrent apps, so direct downloads to the xoom is a viable option. Also torrent sites like btjunkie will have reviews/comments to give you an idea whether the file does what it says it should.
Also filestube can be used directly from the xoom. As far as finding good files, generally you want to look for results that have the movie name (or sometimes its abbreviation), the year it was made, "xvid", and that it its already in a watchable format i.e avi,mp4,etc.
These tend to almost always be bonafide files. Hope this helps.
Google really needs to get media support for their devices otherwise they will always border on the line of niche geek devices.
Op, I have been trying to answer your #1 question for many months...please share if you find a way to remove drm from iTunes movies!
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I have used a torrent client on my Nook Color to download a ep of Fringe it played flawless. It was only TV HD on not 720p but looked excellent. I think it took 10 minutes for a 325 Mb file no computer needed at all. I used rock player to play it. I would expect the xoom to have no trouble doing this.
Not sure what format it uses, but the Amazon Video market has an option for downloading for use on portable devices. It does look like you would have to start the process on your computer and then transfer the files to the device, but it might be pretty easy.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/video/ontv/player/ref=atv_getstarted_player
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1. Is there anyway to get protected movies off of iTunes and into the Xoom? I would rather not spend 10 hours ripping and burning a few movies.
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Stripping the DRM is something I haven't seen yet, however, on other Android forums, I've seen the program Tunebite mentioned a couple of times.
It basically records the file while it is being played on your computer (similar to what "other" drm removal tools do, but supposedly, it accesses the file differently, enabling it to run faster.
I have no experience with it myself though. I tend to stay away from those kinds of files myself.
It sure seems like there's a golden opportunity here for Amazon to be the Android equivalent of iTunes for purchases of movies, TV shows and music.
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It sure seems like there's a golden opportunity here for Amazon to be the Android equivalent of iTunes for purchases of movies, TV shows and music.
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Amazon video on demand works right from the XOOM's browser. I haven't been able to copy anything to the actual device from the service, but you can at least stream all your Amazon videos.
Why do they make it soo hard to download movies and video legally? I've had such a hard time with DRM and such, that I've had to resort to other methods to get my media on my portables. I hate this soo much, I have no problem paying for my content, but if it is harder to pay them for it, than it is to "borrow" it, then why oh why would I pay for it? I would also like to see an answer to the OP. /end rant
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Stripping the DRM is something I haven't seen yet, however, on other Android forums, I've seen the program Tunebite mentioned a couple of times.
It basically records the file while it is being played on your computer (similar to what "other" drm removal tools do, but supposedly, it accesses the file differently, enabling it to run faster.
I have no experience with it myself though. I tend to stay away from those kinds of files myself.
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A tool called requiem will remove the DRM. You're on your own to find it though.
#2 I grab my movies from tehparadox.com I have never dl'ed any viruses from that site. Plus its an active site if theirs a problem with at post ppl will always let you know before you download
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www.imp4movies.com works for me.
Read my post on what u need to know before u buy Xoom
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there's a great program called DVDCatalysts4 that encodes DVD's & Blue Ray's just great.
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Why do they make it soo hard to download movies and video legally? I've had such a hard time with DRM and such, that I've had to resort to other methods to get my media on my portables. I hate this soo much, I have no problem paying for my content, but if it is harder to pay them for it, than it is to "borrow" it, then why oh why would I pay for it? I would also like to see an answer to the OP. /end rant
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I am not sure, but here in the Netherlands downloading movies is legal. Uploading is not. At this moment usenet is a excellent source especially with Spotnet. Works like a charm after the authorities closed down FTD (database of this program was in the Netherlands, but was no longer considered legal). Spotnet however is new designed and has a database on usenet itself which is impossible to shutdown.
All movies, music, series can be found there in topnotch quality and downloading goes with 12MB (that is MegaByte per second), depending on your internet account ofcourse. We in the Netherlands have a maximum of 120Mbit at this moment.
Not sure if it will also works overseas, but you could give it a try.
I was just thinking about the whole movie rental thing not being available to root users because they are lumping us all in with thieves. How's this for a solution?
Instead of making it where we can't rent movies, can't they just make it where we aren't able to download them to the device (in other words, no pinning.) and only make them streamable? I would be happy with that. I mean, it would suck for flights and stuff where you don't have a connection, but It'd be better than the solution that they've currently got going.
Thoughts?
screw that they get no money
the movie industry can continue to screw themselves over
Yeah I dont understand... it just gives people a REASON to Pirate movies.
"oh I cant rent this movie on my tablet? Fine then I'll just hit up a torrent site"
Expecting the media copyright holders to be reasonable might be a bit naive
Google has to go along with whatever crazy **** they demand to license their content.
I have no problem whatsoever paying for a rental. I pay for netflix, hulu and frequently comcast on-demand stuff already. If I want to watch a movie on my tablet though, and the easiest thing to do is hit up usenet, then so be it. It usually downloads faster that way anyway.
If they want my money, they just have to make it convenient or at the very least not annoying...
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I have no problem whatsoever paying for a rental. I pay for netflix, hulu and frequently comcast on-demand stuff already. If I want to watch a movie on my tablet though, and the easiest thing to do is hit up usenet, then so be it. It usually downloads faster that way anyway.
If they want my money, they just have to make it convenient or at the very least not annoying...
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My sentiment exactly!
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Yeah I dont understand... it just gives people a REASON to Pirate movies.
"oh I cant rent this movie on my tablet? Fine then I'll just hit up a torrent site"
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Amen, brother.
Has anyone tried Amazon's video service? Not sure if it works on the Xoom / if it uses a special player.
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On another thread someone said that rooted Xooms could rent Google movies, just rent them through the web-based market. I haven't tried it yet.
web market works
Web market works for movie rentals through the native browser, helps to be logged into YouTube with the purchasing account through the browser as well. Also u have to set the quality lower if u didn't purchase the HD version. Works fine on my rooted 3.1 xoom. I have the hulu 10.3 and I believe the root 3.1 included the ua-string. I get errors trying to watch it through the native video app and I can't figure out how to open it in the native YouTube app, but full screen works fine through the browser streaming.
Same applies to watching it through browser on any computer too, we should get more then a day to watch it through...
Just purchase mega viewer pro... problem solved lol
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Web market works for movie rentals through the native browser, helps to be logged into YouTube with the purchasing account through the browser as well. Also u have to set the quality lower if u didn't purchase the HD version. Works fine on my rooted 3.1 xoom. I have the hulu 10.3 and I believe the root 3.1 included the ua-string. I get errors trying to watch it through the native video app and I can't figure out how to open it in the native YouTube app, but full screen works fine through the browser streaming.
Same applies to watching it through browser on any computer too, we should get more then a day to watch it through...
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Does it allowed to be downloaded/pinned? I'd like to find a solution for watching offline as I travel often.
All this is going to do is make people want to pirate movies. If it isn't easy to just purchase the movie than people are just going to go through other routes to get it on their device.
They are targeting root users, root users are the ones that know how to get stuff on the device without having to go through the market. In my opinion they will for sure lose more money by doing this.
Just got my A500 via Staples mail order. Using the stock browser, I tried to catch up on my Falling Skies via XfinityTV with no success. Instead of a show, I got a message to install Microsoft Silverlight plug-in.
One of the reasons I got a tab is to be able to watch shows online when I'm stuck waiting for family at rehearsals, etc. I already have an e-reader and a video player, so this is the gap I need to cover.
Is this possible? Do I need a different browser? Or am I outta luck?
Thanks in advance.
UPDATE: In case anybody else is interested in this, Comcast "thinks" that the Xfinity android app will be updated to allow actual tv episode watching in a couple of months. Apple took precedence and they will eventually finish working on it for Android. Meanwhile, their app is good for controlling your DVR remotely, which is useless for me, which is why I tried to watch through the browser. Which is why I ended up posting here.
As far as I know there isn't any silverlight support for android yet. There was a project called moonlight that was supposedly going to bring silverlight to android but I did not hear anything new about it for the past 6 months, so I assume it is dead.
time to start calling and complaining.
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time to start calling and complaining.
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To whom? It's hardly Acers or Google's fault that these sites decided to use a Windows only technology for their media streaming.
HBOGo on A500 works.
And given that HBOGo app streams video in H.264, the stream from the website is higher quality.
I am using Dolphin Browser
Did you install the app (from where, I don't see it in market) or do you just navigate to hbo dot com via browser? Thanks.
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HBOGo on A500 works.
And given that HBOGo app streams video in H.264, the stream from the website is higher quality.
I am using Dolphin Browser
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How did you get to work HBO Go when launch says not supported on your device, is there tab ver of it because I'm using the one installed on my phone which works fine there.
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How did you get to work HBO Go when launch says not supported on your device, is there tab ver of it because I'm using the one installed on my phone which works fine there.
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Just use the stock browser (or others), go to hbogo.com and sign in. It works that easy.
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Just use the stock browser (or others), go to hbogo.com and sign in. It works that easy.
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Almost. If you're on honeycomb 3.1, you need to go into your browser's settings and set the viewing mode to "desktop." If you're still on 3.0, you will need to set your browser to debug mode to enable desktop UA string.
Though really, you will want to watch on 3.1 because supposedly it gets better video performance with Flash.
And if some of the online shows require real player how do you watch that since
the extension is .smil and android real player can't open that to play.
Trying to run hbogo on stock browser along with dolphin opera and Firefox all a nogo has laggy video audio is great but picture very slow running 3.2 stock rom but these sites only run when in desktop mode tablet mode not an option any have a working apk version to install and see if we can get it working or some good setting for the browser
Acer A500 3.2 AsusNetflix patch FTW
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As far as I know there isn't any silverlight support for android yet. There was a project called moonlight that was supposedly going to bring silverlight to android but I did not hear anything new about it for the past 6 months, so I assume it is dead.
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Greetings everyone, this is my first post. I found this comment and recalled seeing this on a blog of Jeffrey Steadfast who was developing that:
Jeffrey Stedfast said... Liam,
Unfortunately there's no update. We've been so focused on fixing bugs and implementing new features for MonoTouch and Mono for Android we just haven't had time to look at Moonlight anymore.
August 3, 2011 3:32 P
I would think that more or less confirms your thought that it might be dead.
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To whom? It's hardly Acers or Google's fault that these sites decided to use a Windows only technology for their media streaming.
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Calling into comcast to support android.
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So, I'm waiting for my Ouya right now, should be here within the week, and I'm wondering if anyone has found a camera that works with it. I have a Microsoft Lifecam HD mounted on my 42" HDTV, and if anyone could help me with figuring out how to make it work I'd be eternally grateful. I'd love to be able to Skype and whatnot on my TV without having to use my PC. Also totally unrelated, but how does everyone like theirs so far? I've been seeing a lot of negative stuff about the Ouya, I just basically need some confirmation that it does, in fact, rock.
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Hm I might try to hookup my USB cam to it. I don't know if it works but sideloading a videochat app (Skype?) and trying it out should be fun. Might do it this week.
And I have to say, despite the bad reviews, my OUYA does rock. I already spent 20 dollars on apps and countless hours in front of the TV. Something I never saw me doing ever again.
I don't know what the people are expecting from it. Of course you don't need it if you already have a PS3/360 and/or a Smart TV but some seem to not understand that.
I hope the XDA community catches on to this thing and development speeds up so we can have nice stuff on our TV.
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Hm I might try to hookup my USB cam to it. I don't know if it works but sideloading a videochat app (Skype?) and trying it out should be fun. Might do it this week.
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Yes please!