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Profiles for Windows Mobile 2.0

Dear all,
I am glad to inform you that I have just released the brand new version 2 of Profiles for Windows Mobile.
Do not hesitate anymore! Follow the link below and see what is waiting for you!
http://www.winmobileapps.com/device/pocketpc/pwm/pwm.aspx
I am waiting already for your comments.

slvrbllt said:
Dear all,
I am glad to inform you that I have just released the brand new version 2 of Profiles for Windows Mobile.
Do not hesitate anymore! Follow the link below and see what is waiting for you!
http://www.winmobileapps.com/device/pocketpc/pwm/pwm.aspx
I am waiting already for your comments.
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Well i have been waiting on this! - thank you so much i will give my impressions in full later on. I use your older version all the time.
Cheers you deserve a beer and the 14.95 euros if i like it!
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Bahh, so many time for this, a shareware app...
And so many time to develop a new version and not even the inclusion to be able to choose new ring files from another path...
Sticking with PPCProfiles Pro 3.00a...

Review of Profiles for Windows Mobile 2.0
I have tried a number of different profilers and i like this one best because of a simple interface and low resource needs. It feels like its part of wm5 whilst the others always feel like addons and generally slow the device down.
Well i have tested the new version on my O2 orbit and first impressions are good.
- It has same interface and looks as 1.2 version but is enhanced
- Up to 9 profiles which is more than most of the competition.
- Vibration now works when selected under wm5.
- Bluetooth has discoverable option which is desirable.
- Ability to set profile including wifi on/off when roaming.
- Ringtones can now be selectable from the storage card\my documents folder
- Midi files can now be played as a ringtone
- Screen rotate feature useful for car profile
- Scheduler works well on my device and is a welcome addition
- No glitches or bugs on my device yet.
Wishlist
1. Backlight change with profile
2. GPRS on\off would be a welcome addon
3. Run program in a profile interface is too basic - file menu needed and the ability to use lnk's and not just exe's will make this more versatile.
4. Options interface to be wm5 style rather than old 2003 style and annoying popup of keyboard stopped
So i am certainly interested in buying this profiler and have a couple of questions.
Does the cost include future updates?
Does each device need a separate code? - i have a wizard and an orbit
Are any of the things on my wishlist in the pipeline?
There seemed to be no alpha or beta released (i often checked your forum) why not?
The program size has gone from 94kb to 340kb any possibilty of trimming to reduce size (sounds a contradiction looking at my wishlish) but ? more efficient coding or compression of dll's
Will there be more participation in the forum by yourself as in the past seems lacking and many of the users post not answered.
Thanks again and good work! I hope you take all my criticisms as constructive.

Well, a lot of things have happened in the last year that kept me away from my PC. One of these was the complete crash of my laptop, with a complete lost of all the sources... my last backup was 2 version older... PWM has been rewritten from scratch.
Let me reply to each and every point:
Wishlist - options 1..3 are on the way! I just needed to deliver something and test the user's reactions. I will keep on working on it, if it's worth to...
I don't get your point for wish #4... I'm sure you're going to wipe my doubts away...
Beta - There has been a Beta phase of course. And I posted a message here too, seeking for volunteers... got just one reply, and when it was to late, too.
Program Size - Unfortunately the increase in size is mostly due to images stored into the applet file's resources and the use of the ATL libraries for embedding WMP (sounds preview). I personally would get rid of the sounds preview, but its was one of the most wanted features...
Participation in forum - I'm actually spending several hrs a day in replying to the messages I get in several forums. It's 3:24 now and I'm still here... so my answer is YES! you will feel my presence amongst you!
Licensing: Each device need it's own license. In case of multiple licenses for the same owner, the price would be heavly reduced. License will surely be valid for all 2.x future releases. Whilst I still see room for improvements, I do not believe they will justify a version 3 or 4....
Criticisms are very welcome! I got no better way to improve myself...

slvrbllt said:
Well, a lot of things have happened in the last year that kept me away from my PC. One of these was the complete crash of my laptop, with a complete lost of all the sources... my last backup was 2 version older... PWM has been rewritten from scratch.
Let me reply to each and every point:
Wishlist - options 1..3 are on the way! I just needed to deliver something and test the user's reactions. I will keep on working on it, if it's worth to...
I don't get your point for wish #4... I'm sure you're going to wipe my doubts away...
Beta - There has been a Beta phase of course. And I posted a message here too, seeking for volunteers... got just one reply, and when it was to late, too.
Program Size - Unfortunately the increase in size is mostly due to images stored into the applet file's resources and the use of the ATL libraries for embedding WMP (sounds preview). I personally would get rid of the sounds preview, but its was one of the most wanted features...
Participation in forum - I'm actually spending several hrs a day in replying to the messages I get in several forums. It's 3:24 now and I'm still here... so my answer is YES! you will feel my presence amongst you!
Licensing: Each device need it's own license. In case of multiple licenses for the same owner, the price would be heavly reduced. License will surely be valid for all 2.x future releases. Whilst I still see room for improvements, I do not believe they will justify a version 3 or 4....
Criticisms are very welcome! I got no better way to improve myself...
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Thanks for that slvrbllt - sorry that i missed your beta request post - if it had been in the wizard forum i would have surely picked it up - I am happy to do any future testing.
Correct me if i am wrong but wm5 interface usually has keyboard central and 2003 to the right - no big deal - its just the keyboard popup thing that irritates - EDIT this is only on my artemis - on the wizard it has wm5 interface and no keyboard popup problem.
EDIT2 - problem is fixed on my artemis by unticking 'support wm5.0 soft-keys' exiting, opening and then ticking the box again.
Is it possible to do separate versions? - wm5 and 2003 - it may get round this bug.
I am glad 1 & 3 are in the pipeline and ? 2 not diff to impliment surely - if not I can use a lnk file to work this.
Well you have one customer sold.
btw i have noticed an occ duplicate notification from the scheduler and i will keep an eye on this. Please keep working on this its a great profiler!

Thanks meschle!
Got you listed on my customers spreadsheet... I'll do my best to move your name to the "very satisfied customers" column!
Maurizio.

slvrbllt,
do you plan to add auto PIN input during GSM turning is on?

intruders said:
slvrbllt,
do you plan to add auto PIN input during GSM turning is on?
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I don't think so. I mean, it's not a technical problem (can be easily done).
I can't see any difference between letting the PDA insert the PIN for you and disabling the PIN request on the SIM.
While I can see security related issues (PIN must be stored somewhere...)
I was testing another product some time ago, and decided to give the auto PIN feature a try. Unfortunately I keyed in the wrong PIN number. Before I realised that, my SIM was locked. To make things even worse, I could not find my PUK...
Now my new SIM does not ask for a PIN anymore.
Ciao!

Well, I tried the previous version of this program and also of PPC Profiles Pro... I liked them both, but at my I-Mate JAMin (and I don't know why) once installed I couldn't go anymore to the Sound & Notifications (or Phone) settings, because after doing that it none of them works ok no more... also it damages all of my default ringtones and I can't select anything else. Even after uninstalling the progs the problem of default ringtones continues So I decided to never use this king or programs again in my ppc...
(sorry for my poor english)

I've just got a T-Mobile MDA Vario II, and i found your profiles program and it does the job perfectly, i love the simple today plugin, just what i was looking for. I like the apps i use to have the default windows look and feel and WPM certainly has that.
I have just placed my order, i look forward to receiveing my license
Nic

meschle said:
- Ringtones can now be selectable from the storage card\my documents folder
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How are we able to select from Storage card, from the drop down list in the selectable tones are only showing the ones within Windows directory.

WM 6.1/6.5 version coming?
do you plan to release version that supports newer Windows Mobile versions?
This program is something I miss bad from the Nokia S60 world. I still can't believe it is not part of the core OS.

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THE IDEA
Installing applications on your device is a complicated thing for most Windows Mobile users. You have CAB files, EXE files, MSI files, ZIP files... that's a lot! iPhone users have the AppStore and Linux users have Package Managers. Now what would happen if we mixed both and made something for Windows Mobile? That's the Gecko project, and it's going to be great!
In addition, Gecko would incorporate previously unseen features such as application management, favorites, automatic updates, command line operations and app restore. The goal is to provide every Windows Mobile user a way to easily manage and install applications.
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There are a few things you can do to help me help you all
-List! Add your applications and take part of the release lineup. This also helps testing the database.
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-Design! Once the application is ready for release, I'll need people to help me work on the graphics. Right now I only use a very basic UI for testing.
-Host! Gecko requires direct links for downloads. It would be great to have some people provide hosting space for the .cab files.
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People I'd like to thank:
Ayvegh:
One of the hosts. He dedicated some server space for my projects and now for all the Gecko cabs.
9khil:
The host of GetGecko.org. He installed Wordpress on the server, set me up a FTP and helped a lot on the website in general. He's a very friendly guy and I'm glad to have him in the team.
Niikoo:
Author of the WApps application. He had the same idea almost at the same time and offered a lot of help. He will take charge of the graphic design (that will probably be based on how WApps looked: great).
DarkAngelFR:
A great helper too. He is one of the first developers to submit his applications and later offered to make a DLL to include Gecko functions in other applications.
Our donators:
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Everyone I forgot (yet who contributed in so many ways), the PPCGeeks community, the AllTouchPro community and everyone else who provided support in the last 2 months.

Great Idea
I think this is an great idea and cold give Winmobile a great boost. In my opinion one part of the Iphone success is the Apöstore. But I think the shop maintainers must get some money for their work. I would suggest a percentual fee ( 5-15) per sold shareware.
I think its very hard work to get such a store running.

OMG! This is an AWESOME idea!

N1c0_ds said:
If you have ever used Linux, you probably fell in love with the Package Manager. This sweet application lists most of the programs available for your computer so you can download one of many of them in a convenient way with having to search for the application.
Why not make such a thing for Windows Mobile? We discussed a bit in another thread and we finally agreed it was worthy of its own thread.
THE PLAN
Retrieving applications:
The application would download an XML file with all the applications listed in it along with their description and a link to a CAB and to the screenshot. With an XML anyone could make their own client, leaving room for more talented developers later.
Listing new applications:
Listing applications will cost shareware developers 1$ for each app and will be free for freeware developers. This fee will last forever and there is no royalty fees. Hopefully the low cost and the once-and-for-all payment will attract them.
What do you think?
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You did not say who would host the cabs, the xml and collect the fees. These are obviously the most important points.
Surur

Vrtfrank said:
I think this is an great idea and cold give Winmobile a great boost. In my opinion one part of the Iphone success is the Apöstore. But I think the shop maintainers must get some money for their work. I would suggest a percentual fee ( 5-15) per sold shareware.
I think its very hard work to get such a store running.
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I won't charge a percentage, developers hate that. If I get 1-10$ per app listed (I don't wan't to turn this into a store, I just want a CAB repo).

surur said:
You did not say who would host the cabs, the xml and collect the fees. These are obviously the most important points.
Surur
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well the 1$ is so he could host the cabs and make the xmls and what not..

This is a very good idea. I think we should all go with it!

I like it. Maybe there would be command line interface like yum and portage.

surur said:
You did not say who would host the cabs, the xml and collect the fees. These are obviously the most important points.
Surur
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The cabs would be hosted by the developers themselves. It will be important to have a way to report broken links. I will host the XML and I will collect the fees.
I don't want to make a huge profit from it, I just don't want to spend an enormous amount of time developing without any income.

i say we start developing

bedaweed said:
i say we start developing
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I'm already started.
It can download and show a screenshot from a given URL (gif only) and it can also download and run a cab from a URL at the press of a button.
I also experimented a bit with CSV and XML files. I'll use CSV after all since they are easier to edit.
19:35: I managed to make the app retrieve the application and version from the CSV and add it to a Listbox. The listbox is not the best choice but I'm just experimenting.

wow this is gunna be great
but developers might not give 1$

This looks to be a great idea. Installer, and later its replacement, Cydia made iPhone very popular with those who jailbroke it. It made it easy to install and browse for new applications. Even my girlfriend finds it easy and fun. This could be the very thing that makes WM more popular with "ordinary users" especially with phone manufacturers aiming their WM phones towards that particular demographic.
I just came to think of something in regards to the idea of charging $1. As much as I am supporting the idea of the hoster to receive some payment for hosting and maintaining this feature, I don't know if $1 is feasible. As far as I know PayPal (which arguable is the largest and most often used service for internet payment) charges some transfer fee. I've read somewhere (no sources, sorry) that any payment below $5 is "wasted" due to transfer fees. Might want to look into that.

AndyGizzle said:
This looks to be a great idea. Installer, and later its replacement, Cydia made iPhone very popular with those who jailbroke it. It made it easy to install and browse for new applications. Even my girlfriend finds it easy and fun. This could be the very thing that makes WM more popular with "ordinary users" especially with phone manufacturers aiming their WM phones towards that particular demographic.
I just came to think of something in regards to the idea of charging $1. As much as I am supporting the idea of the hoster to receive some payment for hosting and maintaining this feature, I don't know if $1 is feasible. As far as I know PayPal (which arguable is the largest and most often used service for internet payment) charges some transfer fee. I've read somewhere (no sources, sorry) that any payment below $5 is "wasted" due to transfer fees. Might want to look into that.
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I will get at least 60¢ for each dollar (that's if they pay with their credit card).

Great idea. Please make it device aware (screen resolution, WM version, Compact Framework version, etc.). Compatibility rating and info from users per device would be awesome. On that note, think about a way you can have user ratings, comments, etc. Lots of options to filter an app search: by your device and category and most popular, new, free/paid, etc.

galt said:
Great idea. Please make it device aware (screen resolution, WM version, Compact Framework version, etc.). Compatibility rating and info from users per device would be awesome. On that note, think about a way you can have user ratings, comments, etc. Lots of options to filter an app search: by your device and category and most popular, new, free/paid, etc.
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I already figured an easy way to search for everything (table.filter) but I have a lot of work left. I still don't know how I could work with user ratings and comments. These are especially important as they allow people to decide which apps to get and which ones to avoid (like WeFi and its device-destructing habits).
Right now I've got a functionnal version set up. It loads a CSV, gets info from it and can display the info page of a selected application. I need to test the "contact developer" feature on my device tonight.
I keep changing the CSV (added date, contact info, will add categories and possibly keywords). Compatibility might be something I save for the the description.
Current CSV file columns:
-Name
-Version
-Author
-Contact info
-Date submitted
-Cab link (might add room for mirrors later)
-Screenshot link (might add room for more later)
-Short description (about a line long)
-Long description (the full thing)

N1c0_ds said:
I already figured an easy way to search for everything (table.filter) but I have a lot of work left. I still don't know how I could work with user ratings and comments. These are especially important as they allow people to decide which apps to get and which ones to avoid (like WeFi and its device-destructing habits).
Right now I've got a functionnal version set up. It loads a CSV, gets info from it and can display the info page of a selected application. I need to test the "contact developer" feature on my device tonight.
I keep changing the CSV (added date, contact info, will add categories and possibly keywords). Compatibility might be something I save for the the description.
Current CSV file columns:
-Name
-Version
-Author
-Contact info
-Date submitted
-Cab link (might add room for mirrors later)
-Screenshot link (might add room for more later)
-Short description (about a line long)
-Long description (the full thing)
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if you are using .net, look at using a data set with xml. all the searching,sorting, etc is done within. It is also a snap to use with a data grid. Just my 2 cents
Gudy

And to clarify my post about device aware, I mean that the apps could be filtered to those that are compatible for your device.

galt said:
And to clarify my post about device aware, I mean that the apps could be filtered to those that are compatible for your device.
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Great idea, I'll think of a way to do this.

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I was actually think about something like this before but when puprosed my idea was shot down. I would think an app like this would majorly depend how off then page layouts change here at xda. BUT with that said i have never seen them really change over the three years ive been here. This should be a pretty easy app to make i would think... I have very limited programming skills but ill look into this...
Thanks for post this .

I think that to have the background notifications it might require extra modifications or software on the server side. Ask the admins or server manager if they would allow such things.

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I think that to have the background notifications it might require extra modifications or software on the server side. Ask the admins or server manager if they would allow such things.
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Well, they have it set up to send E-Mail notifications, so the server's and software is already set up. All the program would have to do is to intercept that message. I don't know the admins but I'm guessing I can find their account on XDA, so I'll look into talking with them.

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Well, they have it set up to send E-Mail notifications, so the server's and software is already set up. All the program would have to do is to intercept that message. I don't know the admins but I'm guessing I can find their account on XDA, so I'll look into talking with them.
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I thought you meant notifications via the app. Email notifications will not be hard

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I thought you meant notifications via the app. Email notifications will not be hard
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Well it would be notifications via the app, but it could use the same infrastructure as the email notifications, it would just show up in the App where everything is integrated in.

ace10134 said:
Well it would be notifications via the app, but it could use the same infrastructure as the email notifications, it would just show up in the App where everything is integrated in.
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Meaning the app would have to have a filter to only filter emails from xda to the app it self right....Just trying to help this get started and the basics down

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Meaning the app would have to have a filter to only filter emails from xda to the app it self right....Just trying to help this get started and the basics down
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yea I was thinking that would work. The other option is that we work with how the server and XDA software actually works with the notifications. Then we could make a more efficient system because email notifications wouldn't work properly. They wouldn't work because the formatting is different. If we want a dedicated App, then we don't need the whole "Dear _____, ____ has just replied...".
I believe the best method would be to use the system that they already have going with the email notifications but work with the admins to modify it some so it would be designed specifically for the app. We first need a developer, though. I'm gonna try contacting an admin right now. I'll post back with what happens.

ace10134 said:
yea I was thinking that would work. The other option is that we work with how the server and XDA software actually works with the notifications. Then we could make a more efficient system because email notifications wouldn't work properly. They wouldn't work because the formatting is different. If we want a dedicated App, then we don't need the whole "Dear _____, ____ has just replied...".
I believe the best method would be to use the system that they already have going with the email notifications but work with the admins to modify it some so it would be designed specifically for the app. We first need a developer, though. I'm gonna try contacting an admin right now. I'll post back with what happens.
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Alright I have limited experience with VB on windows mobile so Idk how much I could help.

Proof that it can be done: PPCGeeks APP
That's based on the same forum technology, so maybe we could hack it to use our forum? And then add our additional features like background notifications.
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Alright I have limited experience with VB on windows mobile so Idk how much I could help.
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Would you, Paradox, know how to use that PPCGeeks app linked above and create an XDA-Dev app off of it? You might have the know-how to do that since you have some experience.

You mean decompile it? Umm no. Its not really plausible it is but it would but very very hard. Best Ive decompiled was a Axe that I decompiled to the batch source.

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You mean decompile it? Umm no. Its not really plausible it is but it would but very very hard. Best Ive decompiled was a Axe that I decompiled to the batch source.
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Oh ok. Well I tried asking the creator of the PPCGeeks app for help, but he hasn't responded yet. If we got his source code, then we could possibly make it work, right???

I wonder if there is a way to work with this:
http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=208412
Basically create a Windows Mobile client for that vBulletin plugin.

dumpydooby said:
I wonder if there is a way to work with this:
http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=208412
Basically create a Windows Mobile client for that vBulletin plugin.
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Yep, good idea, that's what I just wanted to suggest before I've read your post.
It just makes much more sense, it increases the number of potential donators, it's innovative (there are twitter clients, facebook clients, but what about bulletin board clients ??), the common framework will make the code more robust (due to testing of the code on many other forums), and it's probably well documented, etc
The interface could work like the RSS Hub:
- on the first page you can choose among any forum you have subscribed to with a pre-configured username and password (e.g. XDA Development and Hacking, PPC Geeks PPC software, XDA Blackstone, etc.) ;
- one level deeper, you would see the top Y thread titles with customizable basic information/symbols such as tags, attachments, views, posts, etc., landscape could offer more information ;
- on the third level, you would see the posts with basic posting functionality ;
- the posting screen would resemble the SMS screen.
Naturally, such a client would probably have reduced functionality : e.g. of course it would not be possible to register a new login via the client, etc.
EDIT: I apologize to dumpydooby, your link says all this without any words and in an easier understandable way.

dumpydooby said:
I wonder if there is a way to work with this:
http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=208412
Basically create a Windows Mobile client for that vBulletin plugin.
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Hmm, well that's only for the iPhone. It'd be a lot easier to work with the PPCGeeks one, but at least this proves once again that it can be done.
I found this on the web: http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=174375&page=13
It's a mobile view mode for the vBulletin board that the admins could put into the website code. It would still require that we visit via a web browser, but that's all we can get right now. Once we get a developer or the source code for the PPCGeeks app, then we might have a chance of making a dedicated app.

ace10134 said:
Hmm, well that's only for the iPhone.
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It's two parts that work in tandem.
One part is a server-side script, which is platform independent. It is a vBulletin plugin developed in PHP.
The other part is client-side, which at the moment only exists as an iPhone application.
I'm suggesting that we work on developing a Windows Mobile client-side application that communicates with the vBulletin plugin.
Again, the plugin to which I linked is platform independent. It's a vBulletin plugin. The iPhone counterpart is just a client and basically irrelevant.

Hey guys... I am hibby50 creator of the PPCGeeks App. I would be happy to make an XDA App. However I have very little spare time so I cannot say how fast I can go. I did respond to your PM via the email address so sorry if it didn't go through. The facts are that I am only 13 years old and go to school in the US seven hours a day with about two hours of homework. Then I spend my free time with friends and on PPCGeeks. I will try to set aside some time for this.

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Hey guys... I am hibby50 creator of the PPCGeeks App. I would be happy to make an XDA App. However I have very little spare time so I cannot say how fast I can go. I did respond to your PM via the email address so sorry if it didn't go through. The facts are that I am only 13 years old and go to school in the US seven hours a day with about two hours of homework. Then I spend my free time with friends and on PPCGeeks. I will try to set aside some time for this.
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Hey,
Sorry I never got your email, but it's great to hear that you'd like to help! You have summer soon, right? I'm in high school so I have a similar schedule probably. Well it's great to know that you will work on it when you have time.

Yep, summer on June 23rd I can whip one up right now. but it will have the same ppcgeeks look (I.E. same blue graphics)

hibby50 said:
Yep, summer on June 23rd I can whip one up right now. but it will have the same ppcgeeks look (I.E. same blue graphics)
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That's fine if it looks similar. I knew it would be easy to "whip one up", lol, cuz of the same forum technology.
But some questions: Does your PPCGeeks app have background notifications or a system that tells you that you have unread replies? We were planning on putting in a system like that, which would be awesome. You can see the first post here for what we thought would be perfect in the app, if you haven't already read it yet.
But yea, go ahead and whip up a quick version as soon as you can! We'd love to test it out!

[Q] SQLite Bibles

I'm working on a Honeycomb optimized bible app for my new Transformer, and I was wondering if anyone knows a good source for bibles in sqlite format that are free to distribute. I believe the KJV is public domain in most countries, so that will probably be my starting point. I also want to include the option for supporting a number of different translations though, so I'd prefer to find a common table format that I wouldn't have to modify. I found a few versions available here, but I'm not really happy with the format. Anybody know any other sources?
I'm hoping to have at least a proof of concept version together within the next few days. If anyone is interested, I can post it here for people to try out and give feedback.

May I suggest using a different method? Storing an entire book in an sqlite database doesn't seem smart.
I'd try a text based approach, one verse per line, with an sqlite index used for quick navigation and lookups. this also allows for much better compression.

Thanks for the reply. Could you explain why using a database isn't a good idea? It seemed like a good idea to me, and every existing bible program I've seen uses that approach. Could you explain your proposal in a little more detail? Are you suggesting a plain txt file to store the whole thing?
Sorry if I'm misunderstanding something, I don't actually have any real education in any kind of development. Just an enthusiastic amateur

I'd be most definitely interested. I've used PocketBible for years, but there was nothing really for Droid. So I bought AcroBible, but the interface was clumsy and adding books was really jacked. So lately I've been using Tecarta. It has an easy to use interface and is cheap. I bought my TF because I do a lot of Bible teaching and thought it would be easier to handle than the paper stuff. So what I'd really like is a side by side arrangement, where I could place my own notes (several pages per class) and on the other side have an independently scrolling Bible, much like Tecarta's split screen for viewing two translations at once.
I'd be more than happy to be a beta tester for you.
John 3:30

jideay said:
I'd be most definitely interested. I've used PocketBible for years, but there was nothing really for Droid. So I bought AcroBible, but the interface was clumsy and adding books was really jacked. So lately I've been using Tecarta. It has an easy to use interface and is cheap. I bought my TF because I do a lot of Bible teaching and thought it would be easier to handle than the paper stuff. So what I'd really like is a side by side arrangement, where I could place my own notes (several pages per class) and on the other side have an independently scrolling Bible, much like Tecarta's split screen for viewing two translations at once.
I'd be more than happy to be a beta tester for you.
John 3:30
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That's basically exactly what I'm planning. One thin fragment to display a list of available books, and the rest of the screen split evenly between the bible content (verses) and a notes pane. I'll mock up a UI demo first since I don't want to start too much work on the behind the scenes stuff until I decide on a bible container/format. I'll post the UI demo for comments on usability, etc.

I would very much like to Beta test for you as well. I'm currently using the Latin Vulgate bible from the Market and while I like it well, I'd like to have multiple translations (possibly Greek as well?) at my fingertips.
While I wish I could help with the programming side, I can definitely commit to thoroughly testing for you.
Best of luck!

fatbas202 said:
I would very much like to Beta test for you as well. I'm currently using the Latin Vulgate bible from the Market and while I like it well, I'd like to have multiple translations (possibly Greek as well?) at my fingertips.
While I wish I could help with the programming side, I can definitely commit to thoroughly testing for you.
Best of luck!
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This is why I really need to find some common format. Nothing would change on the code side to display different translations, you just point it at a different source and everything works correctly.
I was kind of hoping I could use the databases that the Youversion bible stores on your SD card, but they are encrypted (understandably). It would be great to have a 3rd party source (ie, not me) to handle licensing, distribution, and format control for a wide variety of bibles/translations. It's not looking like that is going to work out though. The search continues. In the meantime, UI stuff.

Youversion ftw

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Youversion ftw
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Youversion is awesome on my phone, not so much on my TF. I'm sure they will ultimately develop a tablet friendly version, and with the wide variety of translations they offer I'm sure it will be my go-to app eventually.
That said, I thought this would be a fun project to learn how to use fragments.
I found a couple sources for bibles in XML format as well. I'll have to do some performance testing on those vs sqlite based bibles.
Unfortunately I haven't gotten any time to play with this yet, and I'm going to be out of town all weekend (hog hunting then working on a house my wife and I are building). At this rate, youversion might have something available before me!

bedoig said:
Thanks for the reply. Could you explain why using a database isn't a good idea? It seemed like a good idea to me, and every existing bible program I've seen uses that approach. Could you explain your proposal in a little more detail? Are you suggesting a plain txt file to store the whole thing?
Sorry if I'm misunderstanding something, I don't actually have any real education in any kind of development. Just an enthusiastic amateur
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Sorry for the late response. The problem with storing it all in the DB is it will be slow. Databases aren't designed to store massive amounts of text like an entire book.
Imagine trying to display an entire chapter (or whatever they are called in the bible). You'd have to do SELECT * FROM verses WHERE chapter='1' ORDER BY verse ASC. SQLite then needs to read megabytes of text and send it back to you, which is going to be slow.
With a DB + flat file approach, you can do something like: SELECT line FROM chapters WHERE id='1' -- this would get you a single number, which points to a line number in bible.txt. Then if you wanted chapter 1 verse 5, you take that line number, add 5, then read that line from the file. This should be much faster than storing the entire book in a database, and allows for dead simple language support (can have kjv.txt, niv.txt, etc).
I would offer to help further with the project, but am a strict atheist. I do wish you all the luck with the project, though.

Gary13579 said:
Sorry for the late response. The problem with storing it all in the DB is it will be slow. Databases aren't designed to store massive amounts of text like an entire book.
Imagine trying to display an entire chapter (or whatever they are called in the bible). You'd have to do SELECT * FROM verses WHERE chapter='1' ORDER BY verse ASC. SQLite then needs to read megabytes of text and send it back to you, which is going to be slow.
With a DB + flat file approach, you can do something like: SELECT line FROM chapters WHERE id='1' -- this would get you a single number, which points to a line number in bible.txt. Then if you wanted chapter 1 verse 5, you take that line number, add 5, then read that line from the file. This should be much faster than storing the entire book in a database, and allows for dead simple language support (can have kjv.txt, niv.txt, etc).
I would offer to help further with the project, but am a strict atheist. I do wish you all the luck with the project, though.
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Thanks for the input. That would allow the flexibility I'm looking for, but would probably require me to set up all the translations myself. I was hoping to use some of the existing resources that are out there, which seem to consist of sqlite or xml.
XML might work OK on a desktop, but I'm not sure the performance will be at all acceptable on a mobile device. I was looking at possibly using SAX to parse the XML bibles I found. We'll see.
Anyway, thanks for the responses

I'm using my church's (LDS) App, and it works great on my Transformer!
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.ldsscriptures.scriptures&feature=search_result
It's free too

Olivetree's products do work...I'm using an NASB w/Strongs. Its fairly customizable but I don't use the integrated notes or anything.

Got a little time to work on this over the last couple days. Basic concept is running. Any comments on the overall layout? I was going to go with a 3 column approach where the chapter list replaces the book list when you select a book, but I think this 4 column layout works better (books | chapters | verses | notes). This allows the fastest possible navigation, and the additional chapters column is really skinny so you don't lose much space for the rest of the content.
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Things are coming along nicely. I still have a lot of work to do on the notes section, but the bible portion is basically done. Very happy with the performance too... its fast
If anyone wants to test it out let me know. Otherwise I'll be making the first release after the notes section is functional.

Count me in please. I would love to test things out for you as well.
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk

bedoig said:
I was kind of hoping I could use the databases that the Youversion bible stores on your SD card, but they are encrypted (understandably).
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Hmm, I'm almost positive I opened up their SQLite databases a long while back without issue. It may have been on my iOS device at the time though, so it could be different with Android.
Either way, for a standard I would checkout AndBible. Several months ago I thought about trying to get into Android development to make a Strong's Concordance, but when I found AndBible gave it up. They use all public domain stuff hosted on some website that you can download.
I have a MySQL database of NIV, NKJV, NLT, KJV, and a few others. If you're interested PM me. They DO NOT contain formatting markers though, which may make it useless in a book form (I sure wouldn't want to read a Bible without proper formatting ), and I'm not sure about the licensing or anything as I got them free from a piece of open source software and don't use them for anything but personal use. KJV is license free though.
I'd also be interested in checking out what you have.

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Hmm, I'm almost positive I opened up their SQLite databases a long while back without issue. It may have been on my iOS device at the time though, so it could be different with Android.
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Maybe they figure that iOS devices are more secure since they don't really provide file system access or removable storage. The ones that were downloaded by the Android app seemed to have the scripture fields encrypted. I could view the table structure, see the names of books, etc... but the verses themselves weren't readable.
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Either way, for a standard I would checkout AndBible. Several months ago I thought about trying to get into Android development to make a Strong's Concordance, but when I found AndBible gave it up. They use all public domain stuff hosted on some website that you can download.
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I'll check that out, thanks.
onfire4g05 said:
I have a MySQL database of NIV, NKJV, NLT, KJV, and a few others. If you're interested PM me. They DO NOT contain formatting markers though, which may make it useless in a book form (I sure wouldn't want to read a Bible without proper formatting ), and I'm not sure about the licensing or anything as I got them free from a piece of open source software and don't use them for anything but personal use. KJV is license free though.
I'd also be interested in checking out what you have.
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I have personal (hard)copies of the NIV and NKJV, so would definitely be interested in the databases for personal use. I really don't want to get involved in licensing, so if I distribute anything it will probably be the KJV. If my program is compatible with external resources it shouldn't be an issue though.
I'm actually not all that concerned about the formatting markers at this point. For a reading program I agree they're important, but I'm currently viewing this as more of a quick study/lookup/note-taking kinda thing. Speed and ease of use are my biggest goals. There are already so many good programs that handle longer reading sessions well. Hope that's not too disappointing. Long term I'd like to format everything properly, but I have a lot of other features planned that will come first.
I was going to wait until I've got the notes section done, but if anyone wants to play around just for fun I could go ahead and post it. I like using the Market since it makes handling updates super easy, but I don't think this is really ready for the general user yet. Maybe I'll post the apk here for the time being.
Edit - apk is attached. It's best to just ignore the notes section for now, the current setup is just a textview as a placeholder.
*** The bible.db.zip MUST be unzipped at "/sdcard/Bibles/". If you don't have the database saved at /sdcard/Bibles/bible.db this will not work.
Let me know what you think, but keep in mind this is still very early.
Edit2 - oh, and take a look at the landscape vs portrait layouts. At first I had the notes section below the verses when in portrait but I took it out for the time being. It worked fairly well though, so I'll make it a user selectable option in the future. Let me know your thoughts either way.

Took a shortcut and used code from the Google Notepad example to fill out my 'notes' section. I think it works good enough for a first release, but I'll probably have to re-do it to accomodate my long-term plans. Version 0.1 will probably be released as a beta on the market within the next couple days.
Anybody have any comments on the bible section? Anybody want to test the full market version before release? If so, I need quick feedback or its useless.

New thread opened for the release of the app on the market. Please make any requests / comments there.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1138355

beta test my app (smarTASK) + translation volunteering

You can download the app here.
Brief description in the fourth post.
If you'd like to translate, you can download the xml files from my server (2 files, maybe 250 strings).
So far it's translated to slovak (me), hungarian (me), german (Matthias Lehmann), brasilian portuguese (Micael Martins), turkish (LesserCure) and french (Kasimodo ).
I'm also looking for an icon, so if anyone can help me with that, I'd appreciate it.
The app will someday be available on the market and it will have a website. Also, I'm planning to release the source code soon (after publishing on the market).
Future plans:
- project website
- sync with server
- icon
Coming up (in July):
- aestetic UI improvements
- spanish & translation

How about a brief synopsis on what this app does? No offense, but I don't generally just install an app posted randomly to a forum. The name implies some sort of task manager, but that's just a guess. Your web link is no help either.

Yeah, some kind of brief and 2/3 screenshots would help

Sorry, I totally forgot.
It's a task organizer. You can add simple tasks (like a to-do list) (which can be also used as notes), timed tasks (which also have a due-time) and geo tasks. Geo tasks throw notification when you get to the desired place. Places can be chosen from the map, from your current position, or you can have your favorites. Tasks can be set as important or completed. There are a couple useful features like repeating notifications until you drag down the notibar, backup to SD card, or putting important tasks to the notibar so you always see them.
You can click on the "bc" tag on my blog and read those posts for more info.
Here's a screenshot of the main activity.
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Hungarian translation added. If there's a native magyar speaker around here, please check it out.

Just want to share some first impressions
Things I like:
Very stripped back and simple
Good choice of task categories
Good option set, very configurable
Suggestions:
Option to sync Timed tasks with Google Calendar
Option to choose visible tabs (i.e. don't show Geo tasks tab if not needed)
"Cloud sync" option will need to be well-explained (what server or service will it sync to? can I choose to use my dropbox account? etc)
I think this last one is very important because there are so many other ways to backup app data. I would strongly advise not to have this option reliant on a special server you provide, because people will probably want to use a service they already use.
If it's meant to sync tasks with a web interface which mirrors the functions of the app, that could be interesting. But like I say, this will need to be fully explained so users can work out if they want it or not.
I'm interested to see where you go with this. I've only tried a couple of similar apps and what I really like about this is that you have a balance between a good feature set and a minimal look with simple choice of options.

Thank you for the feedback.
sambwel said:
Suggestions:
Option to sync Timed tasks with Google Calendar
Option to choose visible tabs (i.e. don't show Geo tasks tab if not needed)
"Cloud sync" option will need to be well-explained (what server or service will it sync to? can I choose to use my dropbox account? etc)
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I'm affraid #1 won't happen, because google calendar tasks have a different set of data.
I also thought about that. Does anyone else think this would be useful ?
Sync was supposed to work like this:
The app would send xml data to my server, which would be parsed and written in a database. The xml file would also contain the user's google account name or id, so the data will be assigned to it. The user could then view/create/update/delete his tasks online using a server side application without needing to log in (if he was logged in with his Google acc.).
But I'm not sure it will ever be finished. There are 2 reasons for that:
1) Most people must be freaked out about how unsecure it is and they would feel like I was reading all their data and sending it to the government and **** like that. So they would not use it at all
2) It's a hell lot of work and I don't have much time (+I'm a bit lazy )

grandioso said:
I'm affraid #1 won't happen, because google calendar tasks have a different set of data.
I also thought about that. Does anyone else think this would be useful ?
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That's a shame, but I'm glad you have thought about it at least
How different are the data sets? If a Timed task in your app simply has something like the following fields:
Date
Time start
Time complete
Name
Description
Couldn't these just be matched with similar fields in the Google Calendar data set? I am thinking here only about the Timed tasks, not simple or geo. Other fields could be ignored. If this worked, any changes to the above properties in either Calendar of smarTASK would be reflected across both locations (i.e. newest version would apply). If any other fields are used in Calendar, they would be ignored by smarTask - you could make a note in the application info to warn about this.
However I am not aware of the technical issues here, if the Google Calendar API allows for this, etc... just a thought!
grandioso said:
Sync was supposed to work like this:
The app would send xml data to my server, which would be parsed and written in a database. The xml file would also contain the user's google account name or id, so the data will be assigned to it. The user could then view/create/update/delete his tasks online using a server side application without needing to log in (if he was logged in with his Google acc.).
But I'm not sure it will ever be finished. There are 2 reasons for that:
1) Most people must be freaked out about how unsecure it is and they would feel like I was reading all their data and sending it to the government and **** like that. So they would not use it at all
2) It's a hell lot of work and I don't have much time (+I'm a bit lazy )
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I think reason 1 is definitely a big issue, and not just for security reasons. People want to know if they use a "cloud service" that the server will always be online. If you cannot guarantee 99.9% uptime, and cannot guarantee that the server will exist forever, people would probably not feel comfortable relying on this service.
So maybe the "cloud" option should be removed... Or maybe my suggestion about Google Calendar might work, so you could focus on that..?

French translation
Hello grandioso,
Here you will find a french translation of your 2 files.
Attention: in french there are many quotes " ' " so don't forget to add "\" before...
Tell me if you want more details about this translation.
Best regards and good luck.
Kasi

Hi. I already had a french translation, but it wasn't from a native speaker. So I'll use yours
Thank you very much.
sambwel:
my timed tasks have: id, title, description, due time (in a specific time stamp), notification time in minutes, importance and completion status and creation time
google events have: title, start and finish time (dunno what kinda timestamp), time zone, "all day" status, location, description, calendar name, guests email adresses, repetition status and reminder time in minutes
What do you think now ?

I can offer you slovenian translations if you want them.

Are you interested in a Dutch translation?

Of course. The more, the better
If I had to choose one, I'd choose dutch. But if you have time and want to do me a favor then I'd be glad.
btw no updates until July. I have my state exams on the 28th, then I need to sober up, and then I can start working again

grandioso said:
Of course. The more, the better
If I had to choose one, I'd choose dutch. But if you have time and want to do me a favor then I'd be glad.
btw no updates until July. I have my state exams on the 28th, then I need to sober up, and then I can start working again
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I was going to translate the files to dutch, but when I open them in notepad they look really strange... When I open them in XML editor I can't make any changes... Some help please?
Edit: I can open and translate your files in WordPad.. Is that usefull to you?

Awassenaar said:
I was going to translate the files to dutch, but when I open them in notepad they look really strange... When I open them in XML editor I can't make any changes... Some help please?
Edit: I can open and translate your files in WordPad.. Is that usefull to you?
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Notepad is no good for editing unix format files like this... From what I understand, Wordpad should maintain the correct format. But something like Notepad++ is preferable, and should also be easier to use, displaying line numbers for checking errors etc.