You can download the app here.
Brief description in the fourth post.
If you'd like to translate, you can download the xml files from my server (2 files, maybe 250 strings).
So far it's translated to slovak (me), hungarian (me), german (Matthias Lehmann), brasilian portuguese (Micael Martins), turkish (LesserCure) and french (Kasimodo ).
I'm also looking for an icon, so if anyone can help me with that, I'd appreciate it.
The app will someday be available on the market and it will have a website. Also, I'm planning to release the source code soon (after publishing on the market).
Future plans:
- project website
- sync with server
- icon
Coming up (in July):
- aestetic UI improvements
- spanish & translation
How about a brief synopsis on what this app does? No offense, but I don't generally just install an app posted randomly to a forum. The name implies some sort of task manager, but that's just a guess. Your web link is no help either.
Yeah, some kind of brief and 2/3 screenshots would help
Sorry, I totally forgot.
It's a task organizer. You can add simple tasks (like a to-do list) (which can be also used as notes), timed tasks (which also have a due-time) and geo tasks. Geo tasks throw notification when you get to the desired place. Places can be chosen from the map, from your current position, or you can have your favorites. Tasks can be set as important or completed. There are a couple useful features like repeating notifications until you drag down the notibar, backup to SD card, or putting important tasks to the notibar so you always see them.
You can click on the "bc" tag on my blog and read those posts for more info.
Here's a screenshot of the main activity.
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Hungarian translation added. If there's a native magyar speaker around here, please check it out.
Just want to share some first impressions
Things I like:
Very stripped back and simple
Good choice of task categories
Good option set, very configurable
Suggestions:
Option to sync Timed tasks with Google Calendar
Option to choose visible tabs (i.e. don't show Geo tasks tab if not needed)
"Cloud sync" option will need to be well-explained (what server or service will it sync to? can I choose to use my dropbox account? etc)
I think this last one is very important because there are so many other ways to backup app data. I would strongly advise not to have this option reliant on a special server you provide, because people will probably want to use a service they already use.
If it's meant to sync tasks with a web interface which mirrors the functions of the app, that could be interesting. But like I say, this will need to be fully explained so users can work out if they want it or not.
I'm interested to see where you go with this. I've only tried a couple of similar apps and what I really like about this is that you have a balance between a good feature set and a minimal look with simple choice of options.
Thank you for the feedback.
sambwel said:
Suggestions:
Option to sync Timed tasks with Google Calendar
Option to choose visible tabs (i.e. don't show Geo tasks tab if not needed)
"Cloud sync" option will need to be well-explained (what server or service will it sync to? can I choose to use my dropbox account? etc)
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I'm affraid #1 won't happen, because google calendar tasks have a different set of data.
I also thought about that. Does anyone else think this would be useful ?
Sync was supposed to work like this:
The app would send xml data to my server, which would be parsed and written in a database. The xml file would also contain the user's google account name or id, so the data will be assigned to it. The user could then view/create/update/delete his tasks online using a server side application without needing to log in (if he was logged in with his Google acc.).
But I'm not sure it will ever be finished. There are 2 reasons for that:
1) Most people must be freaked out about how unsecure it is and they would feel like I was reading all their data and sending it to the government and **** like that. So they would not use it at all
2) It's a hell lot of work and I don't have much time (+I'm a bit lazy )
grandioso said:
I'm affraid #1 won't happen, because google calendar tasks have a different set of data.
I also thought about that. Does anyone else think this would be useful ?
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That's a shame, but I'm glad you have thought about it at least
How different are the data sets? If a Timed task in your app simply has something like the following fields:
Date
Time start
Time complete
Name
Description
Couldn't these just be matched with similar fields in the Google Calendar data set? I am thinking here only about the Timed tasks, not simple or geo. Other fields could be ignored. If this worked, any changes to the above properties in either Calendar of smarTASK would be reflected across both locations (i.e. newest version would apply). If any other fields are used in Calendar, they would be ignored by smarTask - you could make a note in the application info to warn about this.
However I am not aware of the technical issues here, if the Google Calendar API allows for this, etc... just a thought!
grandioso said:
Sync was supposed to work like this:
The app would send xml data to my server, which would be parsed and written in a database. The xml file would also contain the user's google account name or id, so the data will be assigned to it. The user could then view/create/update/delete his tasks online using a server side application without needing to log in (if he was logged in with his Google acc.).
But I'm not sure it will ever be finished. There are 2 reasons for that:
1) Most people must be freaked out about how unsecure it is and they would feel like I was reading all their data and sending it to the government and **** like that. So they would not use it at all
2) It's a hell lot of work and I don't have much time (+I'm a bit lazy )
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I think reason 1 is definitely a big issue, and not just for security reasons. People want to know if they use a "cloud service" that the server will always be online. If you cannot guarantee 99.9% uptime, and cannot guarantee that the server will exist forever, people would probably not feel comfortable relying on this service.
So maybe the "cloud" option should be removed... Or maybe my suggestion about Google Calendar might work, so you could focus on that..?
French translation
Hello grandioso,
Here you will find a french translation of your 2 files.
Attention: in french there are many quotes " ' " so don't forget to add "\" before...
Tell me if you want more details about this translation.
Best regards and good luck.
Kasi
Hi. I already had a french translation, but it wasn't from a native speaker. So I'll use yours
Thank you very much.
sambwel:
my timed tasks have: id, title, description, due time (in a specific time stamp), notification time in minutes, importance and completion status and creation time
google events have: title, start and finish time (dunno what kinda timestamp), time zone, "all day" status, location, description, calendar name, guests email adresses, repetition status and reminder time in minutes
What do you think now ?
I can offer you slovenian translations if you want them.
Are you interested in a Dutch translation?
Of course. The more, the better
If I had to choose one, I'd choose dutch. But if you have time and want to do me a favor then I'd be glad.
btw no updates until July. I have my state exams on the 28th, then I need to sober up, and then I can start working again
grandioso said:
Of course. The more, the better
If I had to choose one, I'd choose dutch. But if you have time and want to do me a favor then I'd be glad.
btw no updates until July. I have my state exams on the 28th, then I need to sober up, and then I can start working again
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I was going to translate the files to dutch, but when I open them in notepad they look really strange... When I open them in XML editor I can't make any changes... Some help please?
Edit: I can open and translate your files in WordPad.. Is that usefull to you?
Awassenaar said:
I was going to translate the files to dutch, but when I open them in notepad they look really strange... When I open them in XML editor I can't make any changes... Some help please?
Edit: I can open and translate your files in WordPad.. Is that usefull to you?
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Notepad is no good for editing unix format files like this... From what I understand, Wordpad should maintain the correct format. But something like Notepad++ is preferable, and should also be easier to use, displaying line numbers for checking errors etc.
Related
I want to share this application to manage contacts is a demonstration version, it is really interesting and very fluid, it can display its contacts with photos or icons page of today and navigate shift
Je désire partager cette application pour gérer les contacts c'est une version démonstration, il est vraiment intéressant et très fluide, il permet d'afficher ses contacts en photos ou en icônes en page d'aujourd'hui et de naviguer en glissement
screenshots:
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for more information ...here
thanks again , .. einstein (albert) is my friend lol
sorry for my bad english( google translate)
good program
i will test it
thanks
Interesting ..
I've saw this app on Handago, and thought about giving it a try, but I'm in love with pocketcm. But I'm interested to know who much ram this thing takes, if and when someone uses this app?
hmm... I'm using PocketCM which I love, but I'd like something to give me quick access to certain contacts from the today screen (speed dial). This might be a little more than I'm looking for.
robosiris said:
I've saw this app on Handago, and thought about giving it a try, but I'm in love with pocketcm. But I'm interested to know who much ram this thing takes, if and when someone uses this app?
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I am using it and its about 1mb of memory and I think the CAB is only about 500kb
iggy said:
I am using it and its about 1mb of memory and I think the CAB is only about 500kb
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Does it require flash?? I noticed on the website it said something about that.
Thanks,
Curious G
no flash.lite...
No Flash involved. The memory used depends on the resolution of your device as we do some caching here and there to keep the animation smooth.
The binary that does all the work is about 200kb (the file is larger but most of it are graphic resources). On a 240x320 device caching should take an additional 140kb (but it can be reduced if you disable the reflection effect).
Some additional memory may be taken by Outlook Mobile when you interact with dialog boxes to Edit contacts, select contacts and so on.
Please let us know if you have any feedback.
BTW: the bad news is that after months of work, we released this yesterday, and, guess what, it's already been cracked. So while were planning to add some further features soon (such as the ability to instantly filter contacts by category via the right softkey in the Today screen), we may give up all this for the time being and literally WASTE time making it more for difficult to crack (which of course will also make the software larger and slower).
It's a very stupid world sometime...
This looks like a nice app. I can't seem to find the cab file. I am on my Treo. Could someone pls post the cab file. G8ly appreciated
Just visit www.cnetx.com using your Treo, visit the download page and it will automatically download the CAB file for you.
BTW: the CAB file is signed with a Microsoft M2M security certificate, so the process should be pretty smooth indeed.
Enjoy.
I installed it on my CDMA vogue/touch and I *really* like it so far. I have it inside my ultimatelaunch UI and its working great.
Couple points:
-the cracking thing sucks, but all software gets cracked. Its a fact of life. When it comes to PPC software, if I like it, I'll buy it. Most here on this forum will too. I like to support the community. I wouldn't be that disheartened.
-Features I'd like
1) automatically import my all my contacts or contact groups. It would be much faster than adding 1 by 1.
2) ability to resize the picture. The size it is now is okay, but I wanted to make it a bit bigger, although that might distort the picture I guess
3) maybe have multiple rows. If you have a few dozen contacts, you won't be able to see them (they will be "stacked" in the corner so-to-speak). I would like to be able to maybe put a dozen in one row, a dozen in the next (or however many I want per row) and so on.
If I don't find any bugs and I like it, I WILL buy it. Your price is fair.
Matt
1 - Install Cnetx face without serial
2 - In today, remove plug-in
3 - soft reset
4 - Copy dll and paste on windows folder (replace)
5 - run Cnetx face
unlock using 11111111111111
link for programe + crack
enjoy
WAREZ not permitted here you've been warned.
Torayem said:
1 - Install Cnetx face without serial
2 - In today, remove plug-in
3 - soft reset
4 - Copy dll and paste on windows folder (replace)
5 - run Cnetx face
enjoy
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NO WAREZ please remove link
Torayem said:
1 - Install Cnetx face without serial
2 - In today, remove plug-in
3 - soft reset
4 - Copy dll and paste on windows folder (replace)
5 - run Cnetx face
unlock using 11111111111111
link for programe + crack
enjoy
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For Pete's sake, give me a f***ing break. This is the reason why developers are decreasing by the hour. It's a shame. Hackers have been cracking apps for the longest, but scammers have even gone so far as to take what developers here created (for free, including ROM's), and selling them on ebay. I'm not even a developer (or cook) of any kind, just a avid supporter, and it pisses me off.
Sorry, I had to vent when I saw this.
how signal to moderator??
Hey Matt,
thanks for your positive comments and your suggestions for future improvements.
Actually as I mentioned in my earlier post, one of the things we have in mind is to add support for contact categories, and this could indeed include adding contacts by category (or by "All Categories"). This should increase "usability", which as you can probably see was one of our main concern during development.
A nice looking UI is simply useless if not effective at accessing information. And most photo dialers or FAV apps fall short exactly in this area. With most of those apps, once you add more than a handful of contacts you simply get lost, because they lack indexing, sorting, direct access to contacts by initial and so on. And then you have to access a separate application and UI to make any little change to your contacts.
That's why, together with the 3D interface, we also focused on sorting, and indexing, or jumping to a contact by simply pressing the corresponding letter on the thumbboard or software panel, and making sure that all kinds of contact management tasks could be performed directly from Face Contact.
As for the size of pictures, actually, we already have support for that, as we handle different screen sizes and resolutions (so internally we are able to cope with different dimensions). But we don't expose any method to let the user resize the interface, which indeed could be another improvement.
Last but not least, as for the guy who just posted the crack here, I don't know exactly what the rules are here at "xda-DEVELOPERS", but I have a feeling he probably did it on purpose after reading my comments of how "stupid" all this is.
To put the whole thing in perspective, I'll say that seeing your own worked cracked hours after it's released, tells you that you probably released something good, or nobody would have bothered.
The stupidity is that, as it is now, something between 5% and 10% of the size of the binaries is probably code dealing with the registration, encrypting keys, supporting a black list to disable keys to are made public, and so on. Which is completely useless stuff.
And it took hours to crack anyway.
The idea of spending more time developing more useless stuff (to make the software more difficult to crack) simply make me sick. And I know, someone at the end will still crack it after a while, and in the meantime the binaries will be larger and slower, because of all this useless stuff.
And you never end.
So, as far as we are concerned, instead then focusing on developing features, we waste time on such useless stuff, trying to make the life of whoever is cracking more difficult. Which means that the cracker himself will also waste more time to succeed at cracking, instead than using his time and abilities to do anything useful. And so on and on and on.
And in the meantime, as a byproduct, the software itself gets larger, slower and full of useless stuff.
That's exactly how stupid it is.
im using the trial
the only request or thing thatd keep me from buying it is
1. it starts at one and not "centered"
2. it doesnt have an option to revolve
3. there isnt an option to hide the name or set it as name only... meaning no (h) (m) or (txt)
these are all simple fixes im sure, if these options could be added, im sure many users besides myself would love and purchase it.
great job guys, keep up the good work
I'm pretty sure that user will get banned as it's xdas policy not to allow warez. too bad for that user.
Looks like a nice app... but i don't have that many contacts with pictures. Would be great for someone that does though i bet.
ROCOAFZ said:
I'm pretty sure that user will get banned as it's xdas policy not to allow warez. too bad for that user.
Looks like a nice app... but i don't have that many contacts with pictures. Would be great for someone that does though i bet.
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it comes with icons and the option to choose a cropped picture of your choice.... its quite cool... especially if they allow it to revolve!
Hey Michael,
thanks for your feedback.
I'm not sure I understood everything you suggest though:
1) yes, at startup, or after a soft reset, it shows the beginning of the list, but thereafter it simply stays wherever you leave it... so if you leave it on a contat at the center of the list, it will remain there, until you move to a different contact, and so on... I'm afraid I don't understand what you are suggesting...
Or do you mean "centered within the today screen"?
If the latter is the issue simply go to the Contact Manager and then Menu > Display Options, and check the "Hide plugin icon" options... this will make it "centered".
2) By revolve, do you mean start all over when you are at the end of the list?
If this is the case, actually we considered this (and as you suggest it should be pretty easy to implement). The point is that it may get "confusing", because you could be missing a contact and simply go through the list again and again without even realizing. Also, if contacts are sorted, seeing "A" after "Z" could also be a little puzzling.
Anyway, if this is what you meant, we'll experiment and see if it actually makes sense without becoming distracting (as I said it is something that we were considering to at the beginning of development).
By the way, are you aware that you can instantly jump to the beginning or end of the list by pressing an appropriate key (on your thumbboard or software input panel)?
3) this is indeed easy... and as I think of it now, I understand that there are actually some people who don't have their "work contacts" on the phone, and only have "friends and family"... so indeed, as you suggest, the option of displaying only the name should be given.
I have some concern though on hiding completely the caption... as this would also remove the Index-Tracking letter while scrolling, which I believe is quite helpful if you have many contacts, as it tells you where you are in the list while scrolling.
The same applies the (m), (h), etc. which is meant to give you a clue of the number called if you simply hit the START CALL key of your phone... which is the quickest and easiest way to place a call with Face Contact....
So it seems quite important to know in advance what number is going to be called., huh?
But nevertheless, as you said, all such things could be just "options": we could set the "default" at the same settings we have now, and then give each user the ability to change them as preferred.
So thanks for your feedback.
[APP] QetriX: Universal data manager BETA incl. Best Freeware "AppStore-like" project
Allow me to introduce my first-born child, QetriX.
QetriX (Q3X) is universal server-client data manager for .NET (Compact) Framework 2.0+ and WM2003+ (all resolutions). Client program works in both Win and WM (as well as under Mono - Linux, Mac OS X, Solaris...). It can handle almost every data which could be distributed as XML, as well as some existing XML files (e.g. RSS). As you can see on screenshots, pictures and light formating and styles are supported.
Communication with server is standard HTTP POST and GET.
You can take a look to Google-Translated app homepage. Project is language independent, but I'm from Czech republic so I use mostly Czech language.
Well, I tried to define a new web-browsing data-orientated paradigm. There are a lot of useless information and wasted megabytes on the internet and I'm sick of it ;-) The client program behaves like specific-data browser.
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"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
The idea was to define controls in one (form) XML and data in another XML, one form could be used for multiple data. Main focus was to simplicity, efficiencty and low data transfer (ZIP packing supported, JSON support in progress , work with QetriX is very similar to regular web applications.
Each of downloaded file is stored as cache for further usage. You can define "expiration" for images, data or forms for re-download after this date. I'm planning to release complete XML and app specification, but it takes much more time than programming itself
Configuration is both server and local (for corporate and safety reasons server definitions are preferred). In config file you can set even Main Menu items. You can notice, on screenshots the menu isn't the same all the time. Menu commands as well as form controls uses built-in commands (like "file open xy.q3x") and built-in timer for repeated actions or timing. I tried to make support for "internal" calculations for e.g. currency convertor without sending data to server to do the math.
It's possible to open file from both server and device's memory. It has a "suggest" feature to avoid long searching for desired file. Suggested files are in app directory, in working directory, in MRUDs and even provided by defined online service (especially URL addresses). "Suggest" could be used for any TextBox on form as well. (open-file suggest currently works only with online service so it's turned off right now, sorry for any inconvenience
You can submit one page to server or whole data file. You can even save the data file to device's memory (offline) and send it to the server later. Even it's desired to be server-client, you can use the program without any server.
I tried to implement finger-friendly GUI, you can use finger-scroll (only on Form itself and pictures, where applicable methods are supported by .NET CF) and easy-to-aim "fingerMenu" with configurable buttons.
Server side could be one PHP script, demonstration script with list/insert/update ability has 83 lines and less than 3 kB. I wrote a simple client for web browser that can work with forms and data, it's still very dirty but basically it works ;-)
Because I wanted to keep WM2003 supported and I didn't want to take care of two different versions of the same program, I wrote additional program called "Q3X Aid". It adds support for GPS, GSM Cell ID and Camera. Coordinates are transferred via XML file and if the GPS is enabled and required, client program loads coordinates from this file and uses in request.
Now I use it as:
Shopping list
Twitter client
E-mail client
To-Do list
Calendar
Blog management
Tic-tac-toe game
Now about the "Best Freeware AppStore-like" project:
I know there are many servers for PPC freeware, but It's hard to choose the "best" piece of software. I know everyone wants different features, but sometimes you find bad, buggy or obsolete programs. So I decided to write a simple implementation for QetriX with 1-click install ability (download and run CAB) and current WM version detection (for offering apps and games right for your device).
Now it's ready on my localhost, so I'm building a database of best freeware apps and games. You can contribute, the page is in both czech and english language.
I noticed you help to improve programs so I'm offering work-in-progress beta version. Any bugreport, suggestion or idea warmly welcomed.
I have difficulties to make CAB so please prefer ZIP instead After launching program I predefined two URLs, I recommend "...kraje-cr/" (list of counties in CZ), because it's very simple. The other (...psc/) is a list of all ZIP codes in CZ in very large data file.
After download the form and data file, a link to local file will apper in the MRUD list too, for further usage. You can access the "Open" interface by click to "Panel > Open".
I hope the program is simple and intuitive so you probably don't need a manual. If so, just let me know and I'll try to write one, in english.
Tested on: HP iPAQ 1940 (WM2003), HTC Touch Pro (WM6.1), WinXP SP3
It has much more features (however smugly it looks , I just wanted to wrote the "core".
Please comment and write feedbacks. Thank you!
Super cool!
Hi
Super cool project! I have a similar one going called GSlide (www.GSlide.mobi).
My framework is based around the concept that components (be it remote servers, exe files or system services) communicate using a call/callback pattern. It uses JSON for object state and xml-rpc for method calls.
Maybe we can come up with something cool together? As i have the finger friendly GUI
I must say that its been very hard to find people who are interested in these kind of projects on this forum...
Ciao
Lars
Hi! GSlide is really an Eye-Candy, what's my biggest concerns about QetriX, which looks so old-school! However my approach is much more for data management where nice GUI is not required, but people likes it so it's half of success...
Do you have more screenshots of it's implementations? I'm gathering inspiration Piano looks great!
And I didn't know the editor, thanks I'll add it to my list of "Best Freeware".
Hi again,
My original concept was actually that any form of structured data can be iterated through lists. I think we have the same basic idea here. A generic finger friendly GUI for any kind of data format.
I will try your app today
Ciao,
Lars
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External Link: Open default browser, or select a custom browser in preferences or by right-clicking.
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External Download (RapidShare, Megaupload, etc.): User browser.
Ideas (We're using the "HTML Mining" method right now)
Ideas section removed because the need is no longer here.
How to make the Login work
Login ect would need some type of api work. I've already looked at stepping through the html, it wouldn't be hard. (joel2009)
We've got a developer working on it. If you have any ideas, contributions, or praise, feel free to respond!
Proof that it can be done: PPCGeeks APP
Screenshots should be up later this week (around 7/19/09, I'd say)
Take a vote above in our poll (And no, we won't enslave the developers, just encourage them to work on the XDApp since we all use XDA-Dev) (The poll is old, not needed anymore! We got our developer!)
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So, everyone: Which mobile system should the admins implement into their system? We have these possibilities:
Some Mobile Solutions:
http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=100764
http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=151186
http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=108641
Someone has put together a vBulletin extension that exposes a true API using JSON or XML: http://code.google.com/p/vbulletin-api. As a developer, I personally would much prefer this to scraping HTML. This would require installation of the API code into base software of the site: something to be considered carefully due to security concerns.
I think the best way to get xda on our handhelds is to install to the forum a mobile theme like this one: Mobile, Cell, Phone, PDA, iPhone Style, and also this Mobile Phone / iPhone / PDA Detection and Style Assignment
The makers of Tapatalk are looking for Windows Mobile developers that are willing to hop on board with them to make a Windows Mobile client for their program. Tapatalk: http://tapatalk.com/iphone/
Everyone please reply back with what you think will work best. I will then e-mail the administrator back with what we believe would be the best solution, and hopefully he will be able to implement it. Thanks!6/13/2009 - My Reply About Mobile Server Theme
Hello,
We've been thinking about what the best system for designing the Mobile XDA App would be, and we believe this would work best:
I think the best way to get xda on our handhelds is to install to the forum a mobile theme like this one: Mobile, Cell, Phone, PDA, iPhone Style (http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=174375), and also this Mobile Phone / iPhone / PDA Detection and Style Assignment (http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=173239)
So do you think that would work well? You would have to install the theme on your servers, but it sounds like it can be done! If you don't like that, then there are other possibilities, but they are lacking in security or functions currently.
Thanks for helping with this!
Andrew
Bounty! Currently at: $135
jmckeejr: $10 for a fully functioning app with at least abilty to reply to posts without waiting for 5 minutes and trying to chase Opera around to see what I'm typing.
dnieman13: $10
apreichner: $5
codybear: $5 Around $5 if it works with Windows Mobile 6.5 and works better than using the Opera browser
uniqueboy: $20 more if it is that good, I mean I don't want to donate to just some basic app, but I do want to give to something like I visualise, state of the art!
krook6023: $15 for a working version with all the bells and whistles described
akp99: $10
Bijdehandje: $35 Exact: € 25 For a working Kaiser version that is a quality and complete app
greeneyemonstruo: $15
acidbath5546: $10
Benefits of using an App instead of a Mobile Site:
In considering the advantages of a standalone XDA Developers app over a browser, it occurred to me that if the app could cache certain selected parts of the site, for example the user cp and then update that automatically and invisibly to the user according to a schedule that would be very useful. If it were possible to select any thread and have it automatically cached and updated on my phone so that I could for example just start the app and immediately check say this thread for any new posts with a 0 loading time. For others they could schedule a sync only when a free connection was available to avoid a data charge. Just a thought.[/
New Thread: Go HERE. Thanks
I was actually think about something like this before but when puprosed my idea was shot down. I would think an app like this would majorly depend how off then page layouts change here at xda. BUT with that said i have never seen them really change over the three years ive been here. This should be a pretty easy app to make i would think... I have very limited programming skills but ill look into this...
Thanks for post this .
I think that to have the background notifications it might require extra modifications or software on the server side. Ask the admins or server manager if they would allow such things.
TheParadox said:
I think that to have the background notifications it might require extra modifications or software on the server side. Ask the admins or server manager if they would allow such things.
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Well, they have it set up to send E-Mail notifications, so the server's and software is already set up. All the program would have to do is to intercept that message. I don't know the admins but I'm guessing I can find their account on XDA, so I'll look into talking with them.
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Well, they have it set up to send E-Mail notifications, so the server's and software is already set up. All the program would have to do is to intercept that message. I don't know the admins but I'm guessing I can find their account on XDA, so I'll look into talking with them.
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I thought you meant notifications via the app. Email notifications will not be hard
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I thought you meant notifications via the app. Email notifications will not be hard
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Well it would be notifications via the app, but it could use the same infrastructure as the email notifications, it would just show up in the App where everything is integrated in.
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Well it would be notifications via the app, but it could use the same infrastructure as the email notifications, it would just show up in the App where everything is integrated in.
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Meaning the app would have to have a filter to only filter emails from xda to the app it self right....Just trying to help this get started and the basics down
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Meaning the app would have to have a filter to only filter emails from xda to the app it self right....Just trying to help this get started and the basics down
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yea I was thinking that would work. The other option is that we work with how the server and XDA software actually works with the notifications. Then we could make a more efficient system because email notifications wouldn't work properly. They wouldn't work because the formatting is different. If we want a dedicated App, then we don't need the whole "Dear _____, ____ has just replied...".
I believe the best method would be to use the system that they already have going with the email notifications but work with the admins to modify it some so it would be designed specifically for the app. We first need a developer, though. I'm gonna try contacting an admin right now. I'll post back with what happens.
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yea I was thinking that would work. The other option is that we work with how the server and XDA software actually works with the notifications. Then we could make a more efficient system because email notifications wouldn't work properly. They wouldn't work because the formatting is different. If we want a dedicated App, then we don't need the whole "Dear _____, ____ has just replied...".
I believe the best method would be to use the system that they already have going with the email notifications but work with the admins to modify it some so it would be designed specifically for the app. We first need a developer, though. I'm gonna try contacting an admin right now. I'll post back with what happens.
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Alright I have limited experience with VB on windows mobile so Idk how much I could help.
Proof that it can be done: PPCGeeks APP
That's based on the same forum technology, so maybe we could hack it to use our forum? And then add our additional features like background notifications.
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Alright I have limited experience with VB on windows mobile so Idk how much I could help.
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Would you, Paradox, know how to use that PPCGeeks app linked above and create an XDA-Dev app off of it? You might have the know-how to do that since you have some experience.
You mean decompile it? Umm no. Its not really plausible it is but it would but very very hard. Best Ive decompiled was a Axe that I decompiled to the batch source.
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You mean decompile it? Umm no. Its not really plausible it is but it would but very very hard. Best Ive decompiled was a Axe that I decompiled to the batch source.
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Oh ok. Well I tried asking the creator of the PPCGeeks app for help, but he hasn't responded yet. If we got his source code, then we could possibly make it work, right???
I wonder if there is a way to work with this:
http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=208412
Basically create a Windows Mobile client for that vBulletin plugin.
dumpydooby said:
I wonder if there is a way to work with this:
http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=208412
Basically create a Windows Mobile client for that vBulletin plugin.
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Yep, good idea, that's what I just wanted to suggest before I've read your post.
It just makes much more sense, it increases the number of potential donators, it's innovative (there are twitter clients, facebook clients, but what about bulletin board clients ??), the common framework will make the code more robust (due to testing of the code on many other forums), and it's probably well documented, etc
The interface could work like the RSS Hub:
- on the first page you can choose among any forum you have subscribed to with a pre-configured username and password (e.g. XDA Development and Hacking, PPC Geeks PPC software, XDA Blackstone, etc.) ;
- one level deeper, you would see the top Y thread titles with customizable basic information/symbols such as tags, attachments, views, posts, etc., landscape could offer more information ;
- on the third level, you would see the posts with basic posting functionality ;
- the posting screen would resemble the SMS screen.
Naturally, such a client would probably have reduced functionality : e.g. of course it would not be possible to register a new login via the client, etc.
EDIT: I apologize to dumpydooby, your link says all this without any words and in an easier understandable way.
dumpydooby said:
I wonder if there is a way to work with this:
http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=208412
Basically create a Windows Mobile client for that vBulletin plugin.
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Hmm, well that's only for the iPhone. It'd be a lot easier to work with the PPCGeeks one, but at least this proves once again that it can be done.
I found this on the web: http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=174375&page=13
It's a mobile view mode for the vBulletin board that the admins could put into the website code. It would still require that we visit via a web browser, but that's all we can get right now. Once we get a developer or the source code for the PPCGeeks app, then we might have a chance of making a dedicated app.
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Hmm, well that's only for the iPhone.
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It's two parts that work in tandem.
One part is a server-side script, which is platform independent. It is a vBulletin plugin developed in PHP.
The other part is client-side, which at the moment only exists as an iPhone application.
I'm suggesting that we work on developing a Windows Mobile client-side application that communicates with the vBulletin plugin.
Again, the plugin to which I linked is platform independent. It's a vBulletin plugin. The iPhone counterpart is just a client and basically irrelevant.
Hey guys... I am hibby50 creator of the PPCGeeks App. I would be happy to make an XDA App. However I have very little spare time so I cannot say how fast I can go. I did respond to your PM via the email address so sorry if it didn't go through. The facts are that I am only 13 years old and go to school in the US seven hours a day with about two hours of homework. Then I spend my free time with friends and on PPCGeeks. I will try to set aside some time for this.
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Hey guys... I am hibby50 creator of the PPCGeeks App. I would be happy to make an XDA App. However I have very little spare time so I cannot say how fast I can go. I did respond to your PM via the email address so sorry if it didn't go through. The facts are that I am only 13 years old and go to school in the US seven hours a day with about two hours of homework. Then I spend my free time with friends and on PPCGeeks. I will try to set aside some time for this.
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Hey,
Sorry I never got your email, but it's great to hear that you'd like to help! You have summer soon, right? I'm in high school so I have a similar schedule probably. Well it's great to know that you will work on it when you have time.
Yep, summer on June 23rd I can whip one up right now. but it will have the same ppcgeeks look (I.E. same blue graphics)
hibby50 said:
Yep, summer on June 23rd I can whip one up right now. but it will have the same ppcgeeks look (I.E. same blue graphics)
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That's fine if it looks similar. I knew it would be easy to "whip one up", lol, cuz of the same forum technology.
But some questions: Does your PPCGeeks app have background notifications or a system that tells you that you have unread replies? We were planning on putting in a system like that, which would be awesome. You can see the first post here for what we thought would be perfect in the app, if you haven't already read it yet.
But yea, go ahead and whip up a quick version as soon as you can! We'd love to test it out!
Prolog:
Like many of you I am using WhatsApp. Its a widespreaded mobile Messenger, nearly all of my and probably your friends too got this little App wether for Android or *cough* iOS *cough*...
Since I have been using it I am aware of the many issues, especially security issues they are facing. Using apps like DroidSheep or WhatsApSniffer makes it easy to show off the main proplems of this App.
I am hosting some servers, some time ago I made use of SSL Certificates, the in my opinion easiest way to secure your webapp (roughly...).
I just thought "Why dont they make use of this?!" and I fond out, they simply started their server without bearing this in mind.
I am a big fan of HTML5 which gives me the favor of using SSL certificates AND a new technology I really love
WebSockets, some kind of TCP Connection which is encryptable with a SSL Certificate that is really fast, amazingly lightweight in traffic, event driven and up to this point, integrated quite fine (except ie, you all know this )...
A small proplem I am facing is Android not supporting WebSockets natively
I dont know why exactly but there are many (a lot of!) implementations in java...
So what is this all about?
I started a small project, I want to introduce you to....
LightMsg
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
LightMsg aims to be a faster, secure and customizable alternative to WhatsApp and similair services.
Functionality:
I try to implement all the features WhatsApp provides you.
In addition, there is one core feature you will probably like:
You will be able to use LightMsg on multiple devices at the same time, not only mobile devices (well, at least one is required for registration...) but also on desktop platforms and in browser.
What is it build on:
I developed in JAVA some time ago, building a server for a mulitplayer RPG but I never had to do with GUI in JAVA. It is probably not that ard to learn but I simply dont find the time to. So for making this available for multiple platforms with just one source code and giving me the ability to code in my favorite language I build the app using Cordova/Phonegap.
You might have hear about it, this cool tool gives you a WebView with native platform capabilities.
To make it clear:
The App is mostly written in JS and HTML.
The interface I use is jQuery Mobile, i made some good experience with it, I find it quite nice looking, highly customizable (this will be nice for you later ) and easy to use.
Note: I may do a native Android App later but for now, I want to make one source for as many platforms as possible.
If you are interested, the server is also in my favorite language, I use a node.js backend...
Note 2: Since this server is simply a websocket server with some logic, anybody can connect to it, also from outside of the app which makes the server some kind of api for others who want to build an app around the server.
What am I doing here?
The main reason I am posting this here: Getting you (constructive) opinion
Letting you take part in the developement progress helps me to make the app more user friendly.
Annother reason is that I hope to find some people here beeing willed to help me, either in helping me with the html app or also people trying to help me build a native app
I also need somebody to help me integrate SSL support for the JAVA WebSockets since all the distributions out there that also fit with cordova dont provide this...
Not that much to do, simply take one with the functionality and build it around a cordova plugin
Any help is welcomed, Artists for stuff like smileys ( ) or programmers
So what is already done?
Yeah I got a welcome page...
No thats not all
More or less the complete registration process and the connecting process (for making use of multiple device support ) is done, currently im build the chat environment, I am a bit stuck with the architecture for handling offline messages and the multiple connections for one user account
Also I got some localization finished, all text in the app is either available in english or german...
If you want to help me localize it for you language I can send you the template and you just have to fill in the text
Localizations:
- German
- English
- Spanish
- Croatian
- Hindi (Indian/Have to try out what it looks like in browser because of the symbolic letters)
- Italian
- Dutch
Latest English Localization found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33549618#post33549618
So for now I can provide only a few screenshots you find in the attachement
Note: Please, Don't Call Me Maybe
BTW: You can also like my Facebook Fanpage https://www.facebook.com/LightMsg
Ok so now its up to you, ask your questions, tell me your suggestions and ideas and I will happily answer them Meanwhile I gonna step over to the chat architecture
//Robert
Edit no1:
Since I and probably everyone who is reading this thread wants to get this app into Alpha stage there are currently 2 things to get this done:
First and most important:
I need someone to help me integrate the SSL part in the Websocket client.
This is really important because this makes LightMsg more (or even at all) secure than WhatsApp...
The Server I use is only accepting ssl connections right now so please someone, this isnt that much work
Second but also important:
The account verfication is by SMS (the only way to verify the phone number ) and this means each SMS costs something for me.
The prize is not that high but since i got myself a new development device ( uuuuhhhh RAZR i ) i dont have any pocket money left
I might afford registration costs for 100 to 300 accounts but from what i see from the reader counts of this thread
there are maaaaany more people interested in getting LightMsg...
I know investing is hard if you have nothing in your hands but i would realy appreciate if you would invest some bucks into this,
before or after release of the alpha
Just PM me if you would like to
Edit no2:
So I know this will make you all hope for the LightMsg release but its actually only for me to get a list of interested persons who will get a early alpha version
LightMsg Alpha SignUp
Lets see how many people register
Change Log:
Fix - Fixed a bug or error
Added - Added but not yet functional or disabled
New - new feature added
Update - Updated an old feature which was already present to make it better or more effective
v0.0.9:
- NEW! verification button takes you immediatly to the verification page.
- FIX! removed the timeout on app start.
- ADDED! minsdk version 7 (experimental)
v0.0.8:
- NEW! Google push notifications.
- ADDED! option buttons for vibration and statusbar notifications.
- NEW! offline sent messages are now sent when connected to network
- ADDED! file sending theoretically integrated (practically: file inputs are
disabled in webview -.-).
- UPDATED! locking chat more secure (when coming back from lockscreen you
see
conversation page).
* NEW! pressing back on conversation page disabled (for not beeing able
to
go back into locked chats).
- FIX! error on "Connection to server failed" on startup for some of
you through adding a hicher timeout to the page loading.
v0.0.7:
- FIX! the send button.
- FIX! the contact list, contacts getting added multiple times.
- FIX! line breaks in messages, (some of you recognized the escaped
messages from me ).
- FIX! Sending message to wrong conversation when upgrading
- ADDED! decent notification (already in 0.0.6 i think)
- ADDED! newest chat now on top
v0.0.6:
v0.0.4:
v0.0.3:
v0.0.2:
v0.0.1:
-Initial release
You will be able to use LightMsg on multiple devices at the same time, not only mobile devices (well, at least one is required for registration...) but also on desktop platforms and in browser.
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Is there any way at all to actually send/receive messages from WhatsApp contacts without them switching to another app? This is possible on many desktop clients (e.g. Xfire, Raptr, Miranda IM, etc)
Aktually this is not what i think of beeing constructive...
There isn't anything to talk about yet since you're still building the base (I like the icon, the UI seems nice; you want to include WhatsApp's features, that's great! being named "LightMsg" I'm not sure if you would consider free voice calls as well, just like viber).
I did, however, ask a simple question that you should be able to answer at such an early stage. Was the text too small (hint: it's right below the picture)?
Usually i asociate those picture with trolls so...
Voice is not intended, im not even sure wether websocket kann handle this (probably...) but i want to stay with Msg- ing
Sry, the text size seems to be smaller than usual and i thought it was not meant for me
Well whatsapp only allows one connection with one account at any time (its the xmpp protocol, facebook chat used to use this too...) so beeing logged in parallel isnt possible neither receiving msg on both ends, only at one end at a time...
personally i only use whatsapp because so many people use it and my app isnt quite ready, but many of my friends (and also other people on facebook ) would reaally like to switch, because whatsapp is SOOOOO insecure...
did this answer your question?
Seems to have great potential. If you want, you could send me the logs to translate them to Spanish. I'd like to help you out (especially if it'd be available for Xperia Neo V Stock 2.3.4)
Hey sounds great
I will send you the english templete i currewntly use (it expands during developement you know )
this wont be device specific, should work on all devices 2.2+
English Template
Ok this is the english template...
the app reads out the navigators useragent so for german its de (Deutschland ) english its en and fr spanish probably es, im not sure...?
Anybody wo is willed to do such a localization for LightMsg can download the template and post it here or send it to me
EDIT: Why the hell do I have to zip the js file?!
There's a typo on line no. 40 on the file you sent me. Please, correct it (it says "freinds" instead of friends).
I've already translated the file. I came accross a sentence in German, but I used google translate to translate it to English so I'd provide the meaning in Spanish (as I do not know any German). Hope this translation file helps though.
I'm still wondering what do I have to write in the first line of code (var localization= ). Should it be Sp (standing for "Spanish") or Es (that stands for "Español")? No idea. I named the file Sp though.
Regards (and looking forward to the future improvement of your app),
Morrissex
PS: I'd like to know how the premium system will work and if there will be free and paid versions of the app.
Gracias mi amigo
Found the missing translation it should be something like "Activate your device" (i guess thats what you wrote...)
thanks
on monday im going on vacation for 10 days so i wont be able to work that much on LightMsg but I will do my best
Great. Enjoy your vacs. Just remember: any thing I could help (I know a bit of PhotoShop too), just tell me. I'm glad I could help.
Offtopic: You didn't answer my post-scriptum comment on the post above. :/
I should really read the comments till the end
happens the second time...
the var localization only defines the global localization object from wihch the fields are filled....
the files are named after the user agent string which is when I am correct es
I renamed the file to es.js...
answers your question?
Sorta. I asked too what is that "premium account" thing. I'd like to know how the premium system will work and if there will be free and paid versions of the app.
Ok so the chat client itself will be free but we need to refinance the verification sms and i would like to finance my studies i want to start with in about a year so i need to get money from somewhere...
i would like to make the use on multiple devices premium for a price of 1 or 2 $/€...
In developement it will all be free
Alternative ways?
I haven't thought of other ways to monetize your app. Lemme think of other ways and I'll tell you.
The only thing that is not quite clear for me if the verification will be by SMS and e-mail or just SMS.
The Verification is about the Phone number, to check that you only register a real/your number...
So it will only be by SMS, not by mail
BTW: Its already integrated and working
Just have to put some money by credit card (which i dont have) on our twilio account
I am up for Hindi (Indian) language localisation
Please pm if ok!!!!
Sent from my ST25i using xda app-developers app
So here we are again from egypt
greatfully my dad sponsored me an internet access key so i will get here from time to time
Ok i sent you a pm, as i mention in thr pm im courious about symbol fonts like japanese or chinese (and i believe hindi too....) how to display them correctly and with which encoding...
I usually use utf 8 and im pretty sure its only latin..?
Some updates:
The frontend gui for chats is implemented and the backend for serving msgs is implrmented too
Note:
It already supports multi user chats
Only communication betwren thr instances isnt completely finished, will get that in the next days
Maybe we will get an alpha soon?
WANTED:
I really need a good java developer to help me with integrating ssl websockets with cordova!
//Robert
Sent from my LG-P500 using xda premium
I'm an interaction designer, UI designer (photoshop and CSS3) and jQuery coder...
If you need any help with the interface hit me up!
Hey man
Since we are currently working with jquery mobile i dont need an ui artist atm
For sure later when we come to native apps
When you say you are jquery coder i think you are familair with jquery mobile and js in general right?
I havent looked into this but i want the users to be able to load on jq mobile themes...
Would you try to find a way to load css files after the initial loading? Or just find out if its even possible?
I dont have enough free traffic here to search for it, i might take a look at it anyways later but for now it would be great if you can look into it
Small update:
When manually sending msgs the client receives the msg, just have to integrate it into the interface as well as a delete chat feature and save chats to file on sd
The chat includes (as i already said) multi user conversations and implements thatultiple to your account attached devices also receive your message
Still looking for a java dev :S
//Robert
Sent from my LG-P500 using xda premium
Today, Microsoft removed the "Message History" section from my Outlook account, so I can no longer use a well-known trick to view my sms history. I notice that in the WP8.1 emulator, I can now log in to my MS account and my sms history are synced to the emulator. I am trying to take advantage of this feature to retrieve the file that stores my sms from the emulator image.
So far, I have managed to merge the emulator snapshot with the base .vhd and mount the resulting virtual disk to view all the files. Hell, I can even decompile the stock apps to view their source code...However, I cannot find where my sms are stored. There is one suspicious folder that has modification time at the moment the sms are synced.
"K:\SharedData\Comms\Unistore\data" where K is the Data volume.
In this folder, I can find all my emails in plain text and a bunch of other files in binary/encrypted text. I hope the binary/encrypted files are not my sms. Anyone has any idea?
I got the answer to my own problem thanks to this post. http://resources.infosecinstitute.com/windows-phone-digital-forensics-2/
The name of the file is still store.vol but it is in another location compared to WP7.5. You can find it in Data\Users\WPCOMMSSERVICES\APPDATA\Local\Unistore . If you want to follow my steps and there are any questions, feel free to post below.
Edit: now I need to find a way to read this EDB database file, including the date and time the sms were sent.
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I got the answer to my own problem thanks to this post. http://resources.infosecinstitute.com/windows-phone-digital-forensics-2/
The name of the file is still store.vol but it is in another location compared to WP7.5. You can find it in Data\Users\WPCOMMSSERVICES\APPDATA\Local\Unistore . If you want to follow my steps and there are any questions, feel free to post below.
Edit: now I need to find a way to read this EDB database file, including the date and time the sms were sent.
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Hmm, don't know but EDB Files are used on Exchange 2003 Servers.
I had a Software to open such files. But this piece of Software is really expensive.
When i'm in the Office I will look for the name of the Software.
DarkD1988 said:
Hmm, don't know but EDB Files are used on Exchange 2003 Servers.
I had a Software to open such files. But this piece of Software is really expensive.
When i'm in the Office I will look for the name of the Software.
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that file is also the exchange database used in windows mobile. I heard the format is different for different purposes and MS has never provided the documentation for this format.
illidanx said:
that file is also the exchange database used in windows mobile. I heard the format is different for different purposes and MS has never provided the documentation for this format.
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If you trust me an there is nothing important in this edb file you can Upload them to an Hoster/dropbox
and give me the Link so i will try to open the edb file.
thats the Software I use:
http://www.krollontrack.de/produkte-und-software/kostenlose-software/registrierung/
There is a possibilty to test them.
But we (my Company) have a full version with add ons. So I think there is a bigger chance.
EDB (on WP7, at least) was Embedded DataBase. The API for them is documented here: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa914733.aspx
I know WP8 has some mobile DB APIs (even though it uses NT, not CE) although I haven't tried them at all. You could also try using the Mail API (MAPI) http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/office/cc842118(v=office.15).aspx for documentation.
There was a homebrew app on WP7 (hosted here on XDA) that extracted SMS for backup, because there wasn't an SMS backup feature. I don't know if it would be useful with WP8, even as a reference, though it may be worth checking to see if the source for it is available.
DarkD1988 said:
If you trust me an there is nothing important in this edb file you can Upload them to an Hoster/dropbox
and give me the Link so i will try to open the edb file.
thats the Software I use:
http://www.krollontrack.de/produkte-und-software/kostenlose-software/registrierung/
There is a possibilty to test them.
But we (my Company) have a full version with add ons. So I think there is a bigger chance.
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I created a throw away outlook account and send a test message from the emulator to phone number 555-555-5555 (Yes you can send it in the emulator even though that will never been sent). The content of the test message is "this is a test". With a hex editor, I have verified that the message existed in the store.vol file at address A0233. You can download the whole folder here https://www.mediafire.com/?4id993y8gnii3v9
This is the screenshot of the folder
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Thank you for helping me.
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EDB (on WP7, at least) was Embedded DataBase. The API for them is documented here: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa914733.aspx
I know WP8 has some mobile DB APIs (even though it uses NT, not CE) although I haven't tried them at all. You could also try using the Mail API (MAPI) http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/office/cc842118(v=office.15).aspx for documentation.
There was a homebrew app on WP7 (hosted here on XDA) that extracted SMS for backup, because there wasn't an SMS backup feature. I don't know if it would be useful with WP8, even as a reference, though it may be worth checking to see if the source for it is available.
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Hi, thanks for helping. The first link is for windows mobile 6.5 CE so I'm not sure if it applies. I will check out the second link. I have also made a post in the thread about extracting WP7 SMS to ask for the source code.
illidanx said:
Hi, thanks for helping. The first link is for windows mobile 6.5 CE so I'm not sure if it applies. I will check out the second link. I have also made a post in the thread about extracting WP7 SMS to ask for the source code.
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kay, try this. And sry the Programm Kroll Ontrack for exchnage don't works.
DarkD1988 said:
kay, try this. And sry the Programm Kroll Ontrack for exchnage don't works.
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Thanks for testing it though.
Edit: found this article about reverse-engineering Embedded Database. This looks like a NSA personnel's job...
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1742287612000874
Sorry, I should have been more clear: WP7 used CE internally, so the WM6.5 APIs worked on it. WP8 uses NT instead of CE, but has some of the embedded database APIs anyhow (because the code was imported straight from WP7, maybe?) so it might still work. You'd need to find the library with the relevant exports, though; that part of the documentation will be wrong for WP8.