Hello XDA,
My name is swagstr and I am as some would call a developer and others would call a contributor. Either way, I have created two very successful ROMs, SOS+ (X/S/M) for the HTC EVO 4G and SOS M for the HTC EVO 3D.
I have a vision for a new project and I was hoping to get as many developers and contributors as possible to help with this project.
The project is titled: All Swagged Out Project. It is a play on the way most people misspell AOSP.
The goal is simple. Every time a new developer or contributor begins to dig his/her heels in and tries to learn how to modify Android, this person has to search and search and search. I was hoping that the people that develop and contribute for the EVO devices could take the lead and create a repository of sorts for modifications.
A wise man named tommytomatoe (developer of The Classic ROM for the HTC EVO 4G) once said: "Sharing is caring." I fully believe in this motto and hope that everyone in the EVO community feels the same way. I have opened up several threads over at the SOS Forums where people can post their original (or borrowed) mods and tweaks for the EVO 4G LTE, 3D, V, and 4G. I would not be opposed to having these posted at XDA, but I think I would be nice to the XDA moderators if I took the moderating of these threads on myself. My goal is to moderate these threads and add as much information as possible to provide the best ROMs for EVO users.
I think this could revolutionize knowledge sharing in the Android community and I hope EVO users can lead the way.
Links:
EVO 4G LTE
EVO 3D and EVO V
EVO 4G
Have a great day
Interesting...........so we would have to register on this site in order to contribute to this project of yours??
Since it's a forum, I'd imagine so...
I could c people responding with different mods they find or make and posting them here and u maintaining a off site website where u store the mods in different categories. But it couldn't be in a forum like settings as redirecting from xda to another forum is frown upon.
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I figure that if I added, say, my Guide, I'd have to upload all the files that are linked in there to my dev-host, for example, then copy/paste the info with the links going to my site, instead of the xda links. I think that's what you.re trying to say, Smurf?
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Since it's a forum, I'd imagine so...
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Yeah the point I was trying to make was that since it is a forum that it will require people to sign up in order to contribute and this MIGHT be considered a form of advertising his site!
I know what he's trying to do is helpful BUT is the way that is being handled......that's why I said it was interesting! Obviously, I'm no moderator BUT I've been on XDA long enough to know that this kind of stuff like Papa Smurf said is frown upon.
We'll see what comes of this project...hahahaha
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Hello XDA,
My name is swagstr and I am as some would call a developer and others would call a contributor. Either way, I have created two very successful ROMs, SOS+ (X/S/M) for the HTC EVO 4G and SOS M for the HTC EVO 3D.
I have a vision for a new project and I was hoping to get as many developers and contributors as possible to help with this project.
The project is titled: All Swagged Out Project. It is a play on the way most people misspell AOSP.
The goal is simple. Every time a new developer or contributor begins to dig his/her heels in and tries to learn how to modify Android, this person has to search and search and search. I was hoping that the people that develop and contribute for the EVO devices could take the lead and create a repository of sorts for modifications.
A wise man named tommytomatoe (developer of The Classic ROM for the HTC EVO 4G) once said: "Sharing is caring." I fully believe in this motto and hope that everyone in the EVO community feels the same way. I have opened up several threads over at the SOS Forums where people can post their original (or borrowed) mods and tweaks for the EVO 4G LTE, 3D, V, and 4G. I would not be opposed to having these posted at XDA, but I think I would be nice to the XDA moderators if I took the moderating of these threads on myself. My goal is to moderate these threads and add as much information as possible to provide the best ROMs for EVO users.
I think this could revolutionize knowledge sharing in the Android community and I hope EVO users can lead the way.
Links:
EVO 4G LTE
EVO 3D and EVO V
EVO 4G
Have a great day
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Even though this is a great idea,i would'nt see having to go off site and register to post our knowledge/guides/mods and others from this forum as a redirect from XDA,but i would be interested if you would concider keeping this here on XDA instead.I think i have a few things to contribute that i've learned over time.
I appreciate the ideas and I like the discussion. Suggestions for how to keep this maintained on XDA?
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Isnt tommys famous motto enjoy the possibilities? Lol sharing is caring....
Well i think it should be on a different site like a forum but just one main big thread and we can use BB codes
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lreyes said:
Isnt tommys famous motto enjoy the possibilities? Lol sharing is caring....
Well i think it should be on a different site like a forum but just one main big thread and we can use BB codes
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Sharing is caring is something completely different then what swagstr is trying to do
YES he's trying to create something like a one stop shop for people starting up to help them and not cause them to spend hours and hours of searching.
The issue on hand I believe is that having it on a different site causes an issue with XDA rules and policies
Anyways, my suggestion to you swagstr is that you should request people to send you guides, suggestions, tips or whatever via PM and when you have enough of them.....start up a thread in the general section or maybe the development section.
Once you get enough guides or whatever, request that it be turn into a sticky
Hope everything works out as this is something that in my personal opinion could prove to be helpful if done correctly!
Let me know what you end up going with and I'll write up a few guides to contribute to it!
A thing like this is something I would be interested in.....
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Just a thought that I think might improve developer collaboration and make it easier to have discussions about actual development tasks versus ROM packaging.
We have several talented individuals on here that build ROMs, they combine things that other people do, and add their own things and release a package of all of that. I think a lot of developers have no interest in releasing a ROM. If I come up with a fix for something, or a guide for how to do something else, there's no reason for me to build a whole ROM for that, I'd just release that on its own, and let others put that in their ROMs or just let individual users combine their own tricks together to make their phone act the way they want (in a way creating their own custom ROMs).
The development forum is inundated with ROM ("package") releases and very little attention is given to the actual things going into those.
Just to pick a random example, the latest VIPER rom includes a "GPS Fix". That fix basically replaces your gps.conf with one that changes the network time server that your GPS uses for syncing time for location calculations, and it enables use of Google's AGPS functionality from supl.google.com. This can be described as a GPS fix of sorts, but it definitely does not fix the GPS problem I (and many others) had with the GPS not finding any towers at all, ever under DK17. Nor do the release notes describe what the GPS fix is or what it should fix... This isn't a knock against BThomas, this kind of thing is appropriate for a ROM, it's advertisement of high level features of his ROM to his potential end users. Most of them don't care what exactly that GPS fix does, they've decided that his ROM is good for them, and they like the stuff he includes in general.
In fact, a lot of people are interested in that. I'm not--and I imagine many other would-be developers on this forum are also not interested in that. What I'd like is a forum where we can talk about actual development tasks and bugs, and resolutions to those bugs... only that, and nothing more. I.e. we don't care about a ROM release, we care about a particular bug fix, that may or may not be included in someone's prepackaged ROM.
Anyway, I'm new around these parts, and maybe I'm the only one that thinks this way--if so, I'll burrow my head back in the sand and mind my own business. I just think we'd get more actual development if we had a forum that was more about solving individual issues than competing prepackaged ROMs.
Edit: also wanted to add, I don't mean to pick on you, or anyone else in particular, BThomas, I just needed an example--this isn't a rant against ROM making, it's just a request for a place to collaborate on development, independent of final packaging... somewhere where developers who don't make ROMs, and developers who make different ROMs can collaborate on solutions to problems and new features and functionality together.
+1 to this..
Completely agree =)
Also agree.
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Just testing my signature and Im also kind of drunk but I love this rom! Sorry for wasting a post...... BUT GUESS WHAT I HAVE NO PROBLEMS WHATSOEVER eveything is working 100% love it..
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I agree with this also. I am no developer but sometimes its hard to keep track with all the fixes,so having a central place to look will be easier to choose when looking for an appropiate rom to use.
Totally agree
SyndicateROM v1.0.2 + Xtreme kernel v1.2.0 + Emotionless beast final = Great functionality, Exceptional performance, and Sweet eye candy.
I'n not a dev in any way but I agree with this idea. The forums are so cluttered with roms, mods, and "fixes" that the actual development threads are tough to follow/find.
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+1
Who would like to tally a 'poll' and take the initiative to PM a moderator ?
I agree to this suggestion.
+1 bumpity bump bump
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plus 1++++++++++++
Agreed
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In a format like this would be helpful:
Epic 4G General
* General chat, tips & tricks, etc
Epic 4G Accessories
*Cases, screen protectors, batteries, etc
Epic 4G Android Development
*Android development for the Sprint Samsung Epic 4G
Epic 4G Themes and Apps
*Themes and applications for the Sprint Samsung Epic 4G
Epic 4G
*Fixes and Work arounds
Epic 4G Tools & Addons
*Samsung widge, sprint widge apks, Odin3...etc
Theres a search function, the only thing that needs adding, is a Q&A section like the Hero does.
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Theres a search function, the only thing that needs adding, is a Q&A section like the Hero does.
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Searching is great if you're looking for the solution to YOUR problem. A Development forum would foster discussion to help with other problems.
Say I'm the Epic's greatest GPS expert. Why would I be searching for GPS when I know all I need about it? But if I'm browsing through the development forum and I see others discussing their GPS problems, then BAM. I offer my expertise and help out the community.
Note: I know jack squat about GPS Just an example.
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In a format like this would be helpful:
Epic 4G General
* General chat, tips & tricks, etc
Epic 4G Accessories
*Cases, screen protectors, batteries, etc
Epic 4G Android Development
*Android development for the Sprint Samsung Epic 4G
Epic 4G Themes and Apps
*Themes and applications for the Sprint Samsung Epic 4G
Epic 4G
*Fixes and Work arounds
Epic 4G Tools & Addons
*Samsung widge, sprint widge apks, Odin3...etc
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Where would the ROM section be included?
100% agree!
Roms need their own sub-forum, especially for new releases. All I ever see on the first page of this development forum are Rom releases.
Under Epic 4G Android Development, where it is located now
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Where would the ROM section be included?
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Epic 4G Anus
*Roms
we are in desperate need of a Q&A section.. the general board is riddled with questions and then people dont get the answer they want so then they post on this forum... oddly enough all the various fixes and such that ive come up with ive posted in this forum.. somehow rom devs seem to have found it, as now quantum and acs both use the market fix
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Under Epic 4G Android Development, where it is located now
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See, some of the main questions/concerns are:
1.I want to just addon ....
2.My phone needs fixes or I just figure out how to fix....
3.I need a tool to flash/quadrant/.......
Just a suggestions
EDIT, 12/12/10:
It looks like there is a ton of desire here and drive to get some major work accomplished. I just spoke with ferman via PM regarding the future of this project. I wanted to throw the idea out there, and I want to be a part of it, but I am (obviously) in no way equipped to lead such an effort. As I told him, I am much more the monkey-behind-the-keyboard writing code than the project manager at this point, and would happily contribute to any group that desires to further the Captivate's development.
So, without further ado, I hand the reins over to ferman and anyone else that congeals together as communal guidance. I'll be happy just to contribute code.
I thank everyone for their patience while I haven't been here to answer anyone's questions or even acknowledge everyone's involvement. Once I am done with release season at work, I only hope there's still room on the team for another monkey behind a keyboard!
I struggled with whether to post this in "General" or "Development" - I settled on "Development" as it is regarding, well...development.
If enough people are interested, I'd like to start the group development of a ROM, tentatively named "QAM". Cornerstones of QAM? No donations accepted, except for git submissions ("Free and In the Clear" - get it?); group development with specialization based on the team members' skill sets; widely accesible code with an emphasis on sound open source development practices; and clearly documented, well tested changes and updates.
With all of the drama here recently, especially regarding Axura, I think it's time that some of us try to steer this place back to what it used to be.
I'm an enterprise dev in my nine to five. As many have voiced, I have no doubts about my ability to develop a nice ROM for my own personal use. But I value my time, recognize that I am not as efficient in some areas (UI and UX, for instance), and understand from my professional life how much better of a result can be achieved when you've got a diversified team developing together.
Anyone that is a fan of Agile Development Practices will know where I am coming from. If anyone is interested in working together, let's start a dialogue here and now. If you're merely interested in flaming and thread crapping, move along - this isn't the thread you're looking for.
[EDIT - 12/06/10, 8:51PM] Posted an update within the thread. I didn't anticipate this much interest, but I'm glad it's there. I'm going to go through the thread tonight and start assembling names, etc.
i'm interested, but i dont really have any skills in relation to creating a rom or anything of the like. but if can help let me know!
Intresting...
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Intresting...
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very.
i will gladly help where i can. i think this is a great concept and definitely brings us back to the roots of OpenSource Development.
lets please get this going. what do you need?
Nice
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I would like to offer my services. I loved supporting the Axura users and would love to support yours. I have a little programming experience, I mainly deal with ISS day in and day out though. Let me know what you think. I really think this could turn into something great!
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I struggled with whether to post this in "General" or "Development" - I settled on "Development" as it is regarding, well...development.
If enough people are interested, I'd like to start the group development of a ROM, tentatively named "QAM". Cornerstones of QAM? No donations accepted, except for git submissions ("Free and In the Clear" - get it?); group development with specialization based on the team members' skill sets; widely accesible code with an emphasis on sound open source development practices; and clearly documented, well tested changes and updates.
With all of the drama here recently, especially regarding Axura, I think it's time that some of us try to steer this place back to what it used to be.
I'm an enterprise dev in my nine to five. As many have voiced, I have no doubts about my ability to develop a nice ROM for my own personal use. But I value my time, recognize that I am not as efficient in some areas (UI and UX, for instance), and understand from my professional life how much better of a result can be achieved when you've got a diversified team developing together.
Anyone that is a fan of Agile Development Practices will know where I am coming from. If anyone is interested in working together, let's start a dialogue here and now. If you're merely interested in flaming and thread crapping, move along - this isn't the thread you're looking for.
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Sounds great. Even though I font know much about development myself, I would love yo help somehow(maybe I could be one of those highly cautious/thorough testers you were talking about).
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Sounds interesting. I'm interested in at least testing for you guys. I'd love to start coding for Android (BSc in Computer Science, but enjoy coding every once in a blue moon), but never got around to learning. I'll def keep my eye on this thread though, and help where I can
@OP:
Think this is an amazing idea! Definitely can see a lot come from this.
Idea though: you should maybe put up some slots to be filled so we can get some development teams, focused on their own individual part of the rom, together, so we know for sure that this will be great.
The most I can help with is being the app-writer-assistant XD.
I have yet to see a rom with its own app(s)(not counting DG's lbs launch) and I would love to see one with its own music player,notes,messaging, etc. I'm not experienced at all, i just know some java and I'm still learning android developtment(i got 3 big books next to me right now).
In fact I wouldn't be offended at all if you just say "no, thank you". I just really like the idea and I thought that if i proposed this it would at least give some initiative to develop custom apps with the custom roms and make this project that much more...unique
i'd like to see and participate in some REAL developement. A lot of these "devs" (especially the ones complaining) arent doing much developement and instead are just piecing together different things REAL devs have created into these roms and then trying to extort "donations" out of people. There's a select few developers frontlining the kernel developement that are doing real, good work.
imagine if we had multiple people creating roms like cyanogenmod on here...
I would be interested. I have done some android programming as well as some Other stuff. Never did any rom development but would like to give it a shot
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I can do 'modem testing'.. I travel for a living and encounter the various Freq's, EDGE, 3G, and believe it or not the pre EDGE network (cant think of the name at the moment, long day) almost every day.
Hey I wouldn't be much help in terms of development but I am willing to test anything you guys build
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i'd like to see and participate in some REAL developement. A lot of these "devs" (especially the ones complaining) arent doing much developement and instead are just piecing together different things REAL devs have created into these roms and then trying to extort "donations" out of people. There's a select few developers frontlining the kernel developement that are doing real, good work.
imagine if we had multiple people creating roms like cyanogenmod on here...
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This is exactly the sort of thing this thread and concept will help avoid. The Rom builders that are causing drama do alot of work. And we all benefit. Even if they are getting more traffic and donations than the ones doing the kernel and other mods and making them available for the Rom and kernel builders.
I don't mind seeing a little competition in the thread titles. And each dev has an opinion as to what's best and thus we have several different roms. But the bickering I've seen is ridiculous. But understandable. There are no rules in place. No required donation. No licensing on much of what's up. Its a bit of a mess.
Id love to see what a captivate oriented community effort will produce. Team whisky is great but not all that works on the vibrant works on the captivate.
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is this like the android syndicate in epic4G threads lol?
I'm in, PM me
i'm willing to flash as many iterations of this as you may develop. no technical expertise on my end though ...
I can test and am willing to learn any thing that will help with developing. I have strong computer background. Just new to android.
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im in for testing
Moving on to greener pastures
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See ya' on the flip side ...
Yeah, I think I may move as well but I'll keep in touch with xda. seriously, mods. This forum is for Developers, not for you to be a little ***** and think you're the king of everything.
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The f*k happened anyway?!?? I heard rumors and I'm not stateside so I don't log in as much so I really don't know what happened
Oo oo I know
This happens in every phone forum on this site. I have been on xda (as a user only) since the g1. I think it is good that the devs leave this site. Xda is only the first step for a new dev. Since the mods do not understand the term "development". Your everyday user should not be able to post in a dev thread. That is why we have a general forum. The Dev thread is for developers to talk to other developers to make a better product. It is not a place for users to complain and bad mouth developers, all that does out make them leave. Maybe one day xda will realize that.....cyanogen started on xda....he had his own site now....I wonder why.....lol
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And without developers say goodbye to your advertising sponsorship. Slippery slope guys.
Remember, this is just a Web forum, nothing more and nothing less.
Maybe a revaluation of your perceived value of importance is known order.
It's just a real shame that the best devs keep leaving, and always for similar reasons. Biting the hand that feeds is never smart.
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This happens in every phone forum on this site. I have been on xda (as a user only) since the g1. I think it is good that the devs leave this site. Xda is only the first step for a new dev. Since the mods do not understand the term "development". Your everyday user should not be able to post in a dev thread. That is why we have a general forum. The Dev thread is for developers to talk to other developers to make a better product. It is not a place for users to complain and bad mouth developers, all that does out make them leave. Maybe one day xda will realize that.....cyanogen started on xda....he had his own site now....I wonder why.....lol
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No its good for everyday people to post what they get when they flash new roms. Now bad mouthing that's a different story..
Hmmm that's ridiculous..
But i like this site..
Did people get butthurt over some ROMs not working or something? I'm confused, I would expect the devs to encourage bug testing and criticism...
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Did people get butthurt over some ROMs not working or something? I'm confused, I would expect the devs to encourage bug testing and criticism...
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I don't know exactly what happened, but it wasn't something that an average user did. Brick'd was a fun guy. One of the mods decided to close the thread for a reason that I do not know, and brick'd wanted to say goodbye.
oka1 should be the only mod for our forum, he actually gets us + hes pretty damn cool. even though i have like 70 infractions from him from a year ago haha
Judging from Br1ckd's post in Zen I think something happened to another on the DD team. My guess is it was Dan but not sure. The mod in our tablet forum can go on power trips. Because Br1ckd is a Recognized Developer he has the power to lock/unlock his own thread.
Pretty sure it was an all for 1, 1 for all type thing. He's in a better place now. So lets not mourn his loss but rejoice in his new beginning. Hey, it's almost Easter and Padre Wood is done with his sermon.
Woodrube is on point. I pulled my stuff, closed my threads, and stopped hosting on xda due to something that happened in the sgs2 forums between a trusted friend and DD member, and an overzealous, aggro moderator. As well, the same DD member has also been receiving harassing pm's that the mods didn't seem to want to help with.
I've spoken with Oka1 about my decision and the facts surrounding it, and thanked him heavily for his part in cleaning up the Vibrant forum in recent months. He really has had a big hand in bringing this particular subforum to where it is now.
I harbor no ill will towards anyone over here and I still check in from time to time. However, I also stand by those who stand by me. When my boy had enough of the BS, it was obviously time for a change, and as a new team, we showed great unity in unanimously voting to move.
Hope this sets the record a bit more straight. Feel free y'all, to pop by and say hi sometime, sit a spell, and visit some old friends, and some new ones.
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From this Moderator of the Vibrant
I Like all the guys in this forum, and this forum's Devs have been Stellar and worked together to keep things even and fair, properly giving credit to those who deserve. AS to the other forums I really do not know what happened, but I do know the SGS2 forums is a pretty tough bunch. So, it is understandable that some devs would get tired of the rowdiness..... That's unfortunate. I will strive to talk to the superiors about this incident so XDA can learn from it and make this forum a more conducive environment for all......
Thanks to all in this forum for being the good participants you are ........ ~~~ oka1
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This happens in every phone forum on this site. I have been on xda (as a user only) since the g1. I think it is good that the devs leave this site. Xda is only the first step for a new dev. Since the mods do not understand the term "development". Your everyday user should not be able to post in a dev thread. That is why we have a general forum. The Dev thread is for developers to talk to other developers to make a better product. It is not a place for users to complain and bad mouth developers, all that does out make them leave. Maybe one day xda will realize that.....cyanogen started on xda....he had his own site now....I wonder why.....lol
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They just need to have a better "recognized developer" system. that way ONLY developers can post in dev section, and they have an available option to enable/disable posting in their thread - leave discussion threads for the general section. as long as the moderators cleaned up the general section once a day, making sure there is only one discussion thread per rom - it would be a flawless system
I think the more annoying thing is how people can theme a ROM, add a couple apks, along with some build.prop/ram tweaks, and then post it in the dev section as a new ROM. that drives me mad, and then the noobs encourage this behavior (because they dont know any better) by saying "why complain about having more options??", and by calling these members "developers" - release it under themes/apps, not development
^^the end result of this is a cluttered development section with multiple versions of the same ROM - all of them having poor explanations - so you dont know which ROMS are legit enough to monitor because they all have the same damn features listed
Why would a mod close the sgs3 thread? It was a thread for fascinate owners who are considering upgrading. It was a discussion within this community by people who wanted opinions of others they have come to know and trust, not some fan boy who posts in the sgs3 forum. Why should I go there when the opinions I want are here. And it was in the general section ffs. I mean what was wrong with that, its not like it was posted in development. Get off your high horse, this is our community too.
Oh, and by the way, while you were closing this thread in general for no real reason, you missed two posts in development that don't belong. GTW
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Since xda chooses not to assign mods who are a regular part of the community, mods routinely jump in with no sense of what is actually going on in the forum and go willy nilly. Then half the forum leaves and goes to rootzwiki until the mod loses interest.
Certainly not the first time this has happened.
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Oh I know I just couldn't believe it happened to a benign general discussion thread is all.
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a bunch of bs if you ask me...im suprised chef tony did that??
Edit: Never mind
I sent him a message at least asking why... I can't find any rules that we violated. this is why I've been bugging the admin to make either me, droidstyle, some well known person in the community a mod, it happens every few months that a mod comes in here and abuses their powers or something and pisses all of us off, we need somebody who is actually a part of the community that knows what is going on.
how come none of the threads that are in the wrong section have been fixed? how come the old threads from over a year ago that we keep requesting closes on are still open? how come the excess noob posts and things haven't been cleaned up at all? all that happened is some of our fun got ruined without him even giving a reason or explanation. just because you're a mod doesn't make you part of the community, or us not part of it. doesn't matter how much power somebody gives you if you use it wrong and on things you have no knowledge about.
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Preach on. I've been on xda since the Eris and the fascinate forums since around launch. I really don't understand why xda stays with a mod system that it has clearly outgrown. The mods are good but the system sucks.
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somebody should pm sixstringsg and see if he would reopen the thread.
Got a response from Chef_Tony. Here's our conversation.
Re: fascinate forum sgs3 thread
Originally Posted by sageDieu
I don't see the point of closing that thread, it is in anticipation of the phone because nobody in the Fascinate forum has a gs3 yet... the gs3 forums are such a cluster f*** that nobody wants to try and post there anyways. we have simply been discussing the phone that a majority of the fascinate community is upgrading to, is there a certain rule or something we broke? if so then I apologize for any offense caused. we just don't see a point to taking away our discussion.
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hi,
maybe i should have given a further explanation, why i closed the thread, but since i did not read it entirely, i wouldn't want to comment on the contents.
i did not close it for a real rule violation, but simply for the reason that the fascinate general section should be exactly that, general discussion of the fascinate, tips, tricks and tutorials. of course, users of one particular device also get together to talk about other devices, but at 10 pages, i felt it got a bit out of hand, because the same thing goes on with every device and when people start talking about a number of other devices in every device's section, it might get a bit cluttered.
still, i know, what you are getting at. i am mostly active in the sgs2 forum and of course, people are discussing the sgs3 there as well, with aspects only relevant to existing sgs2 customers, like if it is a good idea to upgrade, when you already have the s2 and what plans allow you to change phone after a year and so on. i understand the fascinate thread was basically the same thing, it was targetted entirely at current fascinate users from north america, most of them on verizon plans. that is something you don't have in the sgs3 section, yet.
closing the thread was just a first step, the plan is to move the thread to the sgs3 section and re-label it to give current (and former) fascinate users a platform to discuss the sgs3, with actual s3 users to look into and maybe offer a helping hand, since they already know everything about the device, but would not actually go into other devices' forums to help people there.
this step will be done in a few minutes, then the thread will be re-opened and has a permanent re-direct from the fascinate section, so you can still visit it conveniently from your device's section.
as you see, at no point was there any issue with the thread itself, it is just some minor maintenance to keep the forum clean and organized, feel free to continue the discussion in a few minutes.
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So basically he did it so that we could have a thread in the GS3 section for once we get our GS3s. Would have been nice for him to tell us that.
lol i think there are more important things that need to be accomplished here at xda. first step would be organizing that cluster f*** of a sgsIII forum.
I was reading Chef Tony's response and at first was thinking thats bs reasoining, than he made sense and I agree with him. And its still convenient cause I check this forum not the GS3 that often, and the thread is still here is fine. I was wondering where that thread went earlier haha.
I'm not seeing the thread on my phone any more, can somebody link to it please?
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sageDieu said:
I'm not seeing the thread on my phone any more, can somebody link to it please?
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Reading this thread has made me a bit nostalgic. I've become quite accustomed to the little family of Fascinate owners here, small but dedicated. It now seems very real that the sgsIIIs are packed up and ready to ship. Even our threads are leaving us.
I don't post a great deal, but I follow you guys all the time. I suppose it was inevitable that the sgsIII would break things up, but it's sad nonetheless.
For those of you heading to the next big thing, I'll almost certainly see you there eventually. For those staying, I look forward to further discussions about the little phone that could.
I echo your sentiments. It's a shame that the powers that be decided to deprive us of the ability to discuss an issue that effects the community within the community. A thread in the gs3 forums is great and all but it isn't the same as it does not have the same dynamics or personalities.
Anyway, I may eventually make it over to gs3 land but aokp and devil kernel is a really nice setup on this venerable device. I honestly don't know if I can live without aosp and aokp so I may make it there eventually or just say screw it and snag a galaxy nexus on the cheap.
It's been excellent folks. This is the first phone I've ever truly found to be superb. But most of that is because of the hard work put in from devs like jt1134, adrynalyne, nitsuj, stephen, and many many others.
Those of you who are staying, I'll see you around. Those who are leaving, ill catch up with you all eventually :beer:
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I think the Sabsa rom ,until V14 ,should be restored in the download area , these jobs are in use by high numbers of members and has been developped hardly by Alireza
Who agree, please join.
Stop flooding.
http://www.facebook.com/Sabsa.Prime
I don't use sabsa, but I really don't understand this philosophy.......I'm not an expert of open source and other things like that, but for me the philosphy should be: here is android, here is my work, everybody that want to contribute in make a rom even better using part of my works or the whole work( with credit to the author) should be welcom.......but again I'm not an expert of those things, maybe my words are simply UTOPIA.....
I do believe the chef should be credited and thanked. At the same time all Sense Roms are taking the hard work of HTC who spent thousands of dollars to make it in the first place and HTC HAS NOT SHUT XDA DOWN!!!!!
Too many fragile egos. And bad replies like ETAS
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Thread Closed
Do not open threads about a ROM that has been removed from XDA. It was removed for good reason, and now discussions about it end.