Suggestion: Split development forum from ROM forum - Epic 4G General

Just a thought that I think might improve developer collaboration and make it easier to have discussions about actual development tasks versus ROM packaging.
We have several talented individuals on here that build ROMs, they combine things that other people do, and add their own things and release a package of all of that. I think a lot of developers have no interest in releasing a ROM. If I come up with a fix for something, or a guide for how to do something else, there's no reason for me to build a whole ROM for that, I'd just release that on its own, and let others put that in their ROMs or just let individual users combine their own tricks together to make their phone act the way they want (in a way creating their own custom ROMs).
The development forum is inundated with ROM ("package") releases and very little attention is given to the actual things going into those.
Just to pick a random example, the latest VIPER rom includes a "GPS Fix". That fix basically replaces your gps.conf with one that changes the network time server that your GPS uses for syncing time for location calculations, and it enables use of Google's AGPS functionality from supl.google.com. This can be described as a GPS fix of sorts, but it definitely does not fix the GPS problem I (and many others) had with the GPS not finding any towers at all, ever under DK17. Nor do the release notes describe what the GPS fix is or what it should fix... This isn't a knock against BThomas, this kind of thing is appropriate for a ROM, it's advertisement of high level features of his ROM to his potential end users. Most of them don't care what exactly that GPS fix does, they've decided that his ROM is good for them, and they like the stuff he includes in general.
In fact, a lot of people are interested in that. I'm not--and I imagine many other would-be developers on this forum are also not interested in that. What I'd like is a forum where we can talk about actual development tasks and bugs, and resolutions to those bugs... only that, and nothing more. I.e. we don't care about a ROM release, we care about a particular bug fix, that may or may not be included in someone's prepackaged ROM.
Anyway, I'm new around these parts, and maybe I'm the only one that thinks this way--if so, I'll burrow my head back in the sand and mind my own business. I just think we'd get more actual development if we had a forum that was more about solving individual issues than competing prepackaged ROMs.
Edit: also wanted to add, I don't mean to pick on you, or anyone else in particular, BThomas, I just needed an example--this isn't a rant against ROM making, it's just a request for a place to collaborate on development, independent of final packaging... somewhere where developers who don't make ROMs, and developers who make different ROMs can collaborate on solutions to problems and new features and functionality together.

+1 to this..
Completely agree =)

Also agree.
platinum27x said:
Just testing my signature and Im also kind of drunk but I love this rom! Sorry for wasting a post...... BUT GUESS WHAT I HAVE NO PROBLEMS WHATSOEVER eveything is working 100% love it..
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I agree with this also. I am no developer but sometimes its hard to keep track with all the fixes,so having a central place to look will be easier to choose when looking for an appropiate rom to use.

Totally agree
SyndicateROM v1.0.2 + Xtreme kernel v1.2.0 + Emotionless beast final = Great functionality, Exceptional performance, and Sweet eye candy.

I'n not a dev in any way but I agree with this idea. The forums are so cluttered with roms, mods, and "fixes" that the actual development threads are tough to follow/find.
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+1
Who would like to tally a 'poll' and take the initiative to PM a moderator ?

I agree to this suggestion.

+1 bumpity bump bump
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plus 1++++++++++++

Agreed
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In a format like this would be helpful:
Epic 4G General
* General chat, tips & tricks, etc
Epic 4G Accessories
*Cases, screen protectors, batteries, etc
Epic 4G Android Development
*Android development for the Sprint Samsung Epic 4G
Epic 4G Themes and Apps
*Themes and applications for the Sprint Samsung Epic 4G
Epic 4G
*Fixes and Work arounds
Epic 4G Tools & Addons
*Samsung widge, sprint widge apks, Odin3...etc

Theres a search function, the only thing that needs adding, is a Q&A section like the Hero does.

Darkshneider said:
Theres a search function, the only thing that needs adding, is a Q&A section like the Hero does.
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Searching is great if you're looking for the solution to YOUR problem. A Development forum would foster discussion to help with other problems.
Say I'm the Epic's greatest GPS expert. Why would I be searching for GPS when I know all I need about it? But if I'm browsing through the development forum and I see others discussing their GPS problems, then BAM. I offer my expertise and help out the community.
Note: I know jack squat about GPS Just an example.

dallas90733 said:
In a format like this would be helpful:
Epic 4G General
* General chat, tips & tricks, etc
Epic 4G Accessories
*Cases, screen protectors, batteries, etc
Epic 4G Android Development
*Android development for the Sprint Samsung Epic 4G
Epic 4G Themes and Apps
*Themes and applications for the Sprint Samsung Epic 4G
Epic 4G
*Fixes and Work arounds
Epic 4G Tools & Addons
*Samsung widge, sprint widge apks, Odin3...etc
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Where would the ROM section be included?

100% agree!
Roms need their own sub-forum, especially for new releases. All I ever see on the first page of this development forum are Rom releases.

Under Epic 4G Android Development, where it is located now

jprocha101 said:
Where would the ROM section be included?
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Epic 4G Anus
*Roms

we are in desperate need of a Q&A section.. the general board is riddled with questions and then people dont get the answer they want so then they post on this forum... oddly enough all the various fixes and such that ive come up with ive posted in this forum.. somehow rom devs seem to have found it, as now quantum and acs both use the market fix

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Under Epic 4G Android Development, where it is located now
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See, some of the main questions/concerns are:
1.I want to just addon ....
2.My phone needs fixes or I just figure out how to fix....
3.I need a tool to flash/quadrant/.......
Just a suggestions

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[spam] Rom Spamming

I'm getting tired of all the knock off roms that are all the same.
There are a few "real" devs that make good roms. But then a lot of people cooking roms, and just changing some pictures and stuff with no additional functions, or borrowing them from someone else's rom.
Roms with added apps or themes should go in the theme section, cause its not a new rom.
Post and vote if your tired of getting rom spammed.
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I'm not looking to fight but here's a real simple question...are you a dev? Are you contributing anything to the betterment of the community? If your answer is no then you like myself probably shouldn't throw stones. If you're unhappy don't use any of the available "spam" as you call it. Stick with your Sense and call it a day.
Just my 2 cents.
I would have to say yes. There are tons of knockoffs.
I had a whitey comment about a developer and rom that was a knockoff of Cyanogenmod's rom but I think it is better left unsaid.
PS: I don't think this belongs in this section but then again it does. So idk I wanna see the results of this poll.
Agreed, alot of these roms are just the same with diffrent apps and themes....they should be moved to themes and apps and stay out of development
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sounds like your mad that CM7 isnt out
im furious also
but comon unless you develop a rom then how about you just logout and delete the favorite from your browser.
cya
DanWalker said:
I'm not looking to fight but here's a real simple question...are you a dev? Are you contributing anything to the betterment of the community? If your answer is no then you like myself probably shouldn't throw stones. If you're unhappy don't use any of the available "spam" as you call it. Stick with your Sense and call it a day.
Just my 2 cents.
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personal attack removed. I guess you don't understand "community". Just because you don't dev a rom doesn't mean you don't take part in where the development goes. The OP is correct. There are alot of confused people who create roms that are themes. I have no issues having these roms if they simply stated they are themed roms. These types of roms should be moved in to the theme/apps. The development section should be Roms the deliver something different then the theme. Startup scripts. Modifications to the framework etc. We have a great community. I personally agree with the OP.
I guess why this is here.
There is a sticky about The General Public License. Yet we have plenty of devs that don't actually release what they are changing in their roms. This is as if they own these rights when they don't. To further development Developers should be releasing changes they made to the framework. What was changed, how it was changes, and how this change effects the phone. I don't see it. I see things like "Changes to the framework", "Other changes that I am missing" < How does this benefit anyone? This is an open source community. Maybe we should be more "open"
IMO
lithid-cm said:
you sir are an idiot. I guess you don't understand "community". Just because you don't dev a rom doesn't mean you don't take part in where the development goes. The OP is correct. There are alot of confused people who create roms that are themes. I have no issues having these roms if they simply stated they are themed roms. These types of roms should be moved in to the theme/apps. The development section should be Roms the deliver something different then the theme. Startup scripts. Modifications to the framework etc. We have a great community. I personally agree with the OP.
I guess why this is here.
There is a sticky about The General Public License. Yet we have plenty of devs that don't actually release what they are changing in their roms. This is as if they own these rights when they don't. To further development Developers should be releasing changes they made to the framework. What was changed, how it was changes, and how this change effects the phone. I don't see it. I see things like "Changes to the framework", "Other changes that I am missing" < How does this benefit anyone? This is an open source community. Maybe we should be more "open"
IMO
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I can't agree more with lithid. There are two others out there that seem to be taking lithids and making their own thred. Most are themes and shouldn't be in here. I like to test for preludedrew and lithid based roms but I hear the same complaining. Gps, whens 4g working, hdmi.
Just because you take another devs Rom and update it nightly doesn't make it your own. I personally gone from not understanding Android to recooking roms but why should I post it then ask for donations. Donations should be to those truly developing the roms like CM, Lithid, Prelude and so on.
I certainly don't want to start a war on this but its sickening to bounce from thred to thred and see the same stuff just different title.
Said my peace.. thanks to myn, lithid, CM, and prelude. Of course to all those that help them too.
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Stalte said:
I would have to say yes. There are tons of knockoffs.
I had a whitey comment about a developer and rom that was a knockoff of Cyanogenmod's rom but I think it is better left unsaid.
PS: I don't think this belongs in this section but then again it does. So idk I wanna see the results of this poll.
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Yeah, I know, my cyanogenmod knockoff sucks doesn't it...
Just kidding
Well a lot of phones dont have roms or good roms, so even if some roms copy at least we have people giving to the Evo community.
The more roms the better is my thought.
lithid-cm said:
you sir are an idiot. I guess you don't understand "community". Just because you don't dev a rom doesn't mean you don't take part in where the development goes. The OP is correct. There are alot of confused people who create roms that are themes. I have no issues having these roms if they simply stated they are themed roms. These types of roms should be moved in to the theme/apps. The development section should be Roms the deliver something different then the theme. Startup scripts. Modifications to the framework etc. We have a great community. I personally agree with the OP.
I guess why this is here.
There is a sticky about The General Public License. Yet we have plenty of devs that don't actually release what they are changing in their roms. This is as if they own these rights when they don't. To further development Developers should be releasing changes they made to the framework. What was changed, how it was changes, and how this change effects the phone. I don't see it. I see things like "Changes to the framework", "Other changes that I am missing" < How does this benefit anyone? This is an open source community. Maybe we should be more "open"
IMO
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100% spot on correct!!!!!
While anyone can make a contribution to not all of them are beneficial to the community.
brizzle1986 said:
Agreed, alot of these roms are just the same with diffrent apps and themes....they should be moved to themes and apps and stay out of development
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LMAO @ moved to themes and apps
bwhahahaha
goodboynyc said:
While anyone can make a contribution to not all of them are beneficial to the community.
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This thread is essentially pointless. Opinions are like aholes, everyone has one. This thread belongs in the q&a section, not development. Ironic the very thing complained about is the same thing occurring here. People are sharing their creations, like them or not. If not, don't download them. No good is going to come from saying people are all being copycats. I'm sure you feel my ROM is another useless creation as well, a 'knock off'. That's OK with me if you feel that way, plenty of other people like it. If you don't like it, don't download it.
Android is all about open source, this is why I have made threads like THIS ONE and THIS ONE so that others can see exactly what I have done and how to do it themselves.
Have a nice day
Ive taking the best features,tweaks etc from 4-5 different roms and made my own sweet rom but I wouldnt dare post it cause it's not my work, but that being said if proper credit is giving to the Devs is this really a issue??
Better to have too many than not enough. Even if they just change a couple of things then, imo, that could spark further creativity or development.
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You should ask the devs too. I think if a dev copies the whole rom and just basically theme it they shouldn't ask for money. But if they actually add features why not.
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I don't think they're knockoffs. Even the "knockoffs" take a great load of time and effort to make them. The Devs aren't always looking to please everyone and often make ROMS because a small group has asked them to. Competition is NEVER bad
More roms to chose from is better. Not all developers want to add certain tweaks consumers demand. For example the power bar tweak and etc... this post is useless and doesn't belong here.
OP if you don't like the variety of roms then don't read about them or even become curious of them. Don't waste pointless space in this forum. Thanks.
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there are just sooooo many "custom" roms out there right now and its hard to find things sometimes.
Can we get another section under development for kernels, aosp and sense
that would make it look alot prettier
SteelH said:
This thread is essentially pointless. Opinions are like aholes, everyone has one. This thread belongs in the q&a section, not development. Ironic the very thing complained about is the same thing occurring here. People are sharing their creations, like them or not. If not, don't download them. No good is going to come from saying people are all being copycats. I'm sure you feel my ROM is another useless creation as well, a 'knock off'. That's OK with me if you feel that way, plenty of other people like it. If you don't like it, don't download it.
Android is all about open source, this is why I have made threads like THIS ONE and THIS ONE so that others can see exactly what I have done and how to do it themselves.
Have a nice day
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X2 on all of that!
If you don't like it, don't download it....I like the freedom to choose. My friend has the incredible and gets mad that he doesn't have as much to choose from as I do.

Categorizing HTC Supersonic: EVO 4G

Hello,
I was wondering whom do I have to talk to about maybe implementing some sort of category system for the EVO thread. I know there is the search bar to find stuff but sometimes I think it would be easier, at least in the development and themes sections to categorize everything for easier access and search.
Example for Development
All AOSP Roms in one Category, all Sense roms in another, Kernels, Developments for EVO, Root methods, etc...I think that people would not post in the wrong threads when it's so specifically depicted.
I am willing to head the project, but first of all is it even possible.
Shigster said:
Hello,
I was wondering whom do I have to talk to about maybe implementing some sort of category system for the EVO thread. I know there is the search bar to find stuff but sometimes I think it would be easier, at least in the development and themes sections to categorize everything for easier access and search.
Example for Development
All AOSP Roms in one Category, all Sense roms in another, Kernels, Developments for EVO, Root methods, etc...I think that people would not post in the wrong threads when it's so specifically depicted.
I am willing to head the project, but first of all is it even possible.
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Wiki Wiki Wiki
+1 to the OP, I've brought this up before as well.
pm a mod!
wiki wiki wiki... as DirtyS.. said
As everyone else has said, just edit the wiki.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=File:HTC_Supersonic.png
All registered users have the ability to contribute to the wiki, so take it upon yourself to organize the Roms section for the EVO.
You guys aren't getting what he (or she) is saying. It would be nice to have subsets under the "EVO 4g Android Development" subforum.
Personally I think changing to this would work:
EVO 4g General
EVO 4g Q&A
EVO 4g Accessories
EVO 4g Android Sense Development
EVO 4g AOSP Development
EVO 4g Themes and Apps
Really, themes are ROM based so that's another gray area
This is mostly because there are a lot of people flashing AOSP kernels in Sense Roms (and vice versa). Then they complain about screen tearing or boot loops or fruit loops. This would help calm the problem without causing any headaches.
Orrr..
EVO 4g General
EVO 4g Q&A
EVO 4g Accessories
EVO 4g Android Rom Development
Sense
AOSP
EVO 4g Kernels
Sense
AOSP
EVO 4g Themes and Apps
This would be a good idea to implement it would help organize the clutter. But on the other hand when looking through the threads I like to see what's going on in both aosp and sense. So this would take that away.
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True, but i think if the kernels had their own place that would be awesome (Even if it was only one forum instead of two sub-forums). They are impossible to find sometimes among all the roms.
I would love something like this.

[ROMs] What does not work in each rom

I've been endlessly scouring this section of the forums for the last few weeks trying to figure out which rom would work best for me. There is one problem though, I can't for the life of me figure out which things work/do not work in each of the major roms. It's really important to me that nothing/minimal is broken in a rom that I choose. I'm hoping to make and maintain a list of specifically what does NOT work in each rom to help make the choices easier to sift through. The 1st posts of official rom threads usually have some things listed, but reading through the (million page) threads yields more issues.
The only problem, however, may be that most people are using a different combo of kernal/rom/hardware which obviously changes things, so I'm hoping to try and sift through that too. Perhaps make some tables to make it easier.
The Evo rom wiki has tables but only outlines basic functions.
*Mods: thought long and hard about which section to put this in, I think it's best served here.
*Devs: I'd love personal input here if possible. Thanks.
nomadicthoughts said:
*Mods: thought long and hard about which section to put this in, I think it's best served here
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Just sayin. This section is supposed to be for posting ROMs and development related items.
I'm not a mod so It's up to them, but, this should be in Q&A.
JoeLithium said:
Just sayin. This section is supposed to be for posting ROMs and development related items.
I'm not a mod so It's up to them, but, this should be in Q&A.
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Well, it is directly related to ROMs and development, but yeah if this isn't the right section please move it.
I totally understand the problem your having though. It's a bit unorganized but it's partially because of the vast development community that the Evo has. There is a wiki at the top of this section that might grant a little more insight. I don't know if it's exactly what your looking for.
P.S.
I do like to play "forum police" though I'm not a mod. I can understand why you posted here and it wasn't a blatant disregard for the rules. So no biggy to me anyway. The reason I get pissed is because it's already so cluttered that more threads make it that much harder.
You have to look in the OP of each thread in the android decelopement section and choose based on what you need from your phone and what you want. Myn's warm twopointtwo works perfectly for a sense rom and there is a cyanogenmod 7 beta with ewimax out now. So it has everything but HDMI working for a gingerbread aosp rom
Well here are some tips for you:
If it's a stock based Sense rom then everything should work unless the dev is an idiot.
If it's an AOSP rom then everything but hdmi and 4g should work (and 4g actually has a fix and can be made to work now)
If it's a port of another rom then hdmi, 4g, and typically the camera won't work (but this usually gets fixed). Sometimes various sensors aren't working properly either (like orientation)
We take a stock Rom and a stock kernel and twist the hell out of it way beyond its means and then ***** about what works and what does not!
Bad topic!
Devs don't want to hear this crap that what pm's
Are for and ops and such I understand you but worthless topic and it only benefits you and not the community!
You can't even follow edicit
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I had the same problem as you a while back. In my opinion, if you are rooted you have already done the hard work. You now have a custom recovery with nandroid, a godsend, which you can use to fall back on if anything were to go wrong. My advice would be to just take the plunge. Grab a handful of ROMS that sound suitable to your needs and start to flash them. If you get stuck in bootloops or the ROM isn't what you want, all you have to do is nandroid and start over. I would recommend to give each ROM at least 2 battery cycles before you decide. On my setup, it seems to take a bit to "settle in". I think if you tried to make tables of ALL possibilities it would be mind boggling to sift through.
I realize this isn't a direct answer to your question, its just my thoughts. Hope it helps and good luck!
eVoKINGS said:
We take a stock Rom and a stock kernel and twist the hell out of it way beyond its means and then ***** about what works and what does not!
Bad topic!
Devs don't want to hear this crap that what pm's
Are for and ops and such I understand you but worthless topic and it only benefits you and not the community!
You can't even follow edicit
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To the Op, If its sense based, nothing will be broken. If the rom is AOSP, then 4G and HDMI are broken, however Cyanogenmod is the only AOSP rom with a semi-functional 4G. Also if the rom is Gingerbread 4G, and HDMI are broken, and likewise again, Cyanogenmod 7 is the only Gingerbread mod with a semi-working 4G. The way the ROM's work right now unless its an alpha wimax ROM for AOSP, then flashing a different kernel won't affect the features of the ROM, unless you forgot to wipe before flashing. You can simplify your list down to 2 categories Sense and AOSP, if its SENSE everything works, if its AOSP, 4g and HDMI are broken, and under the AOSP you can list the 2 Alpha releases of wimax for Cyanogen.
Simply put, if you want everything to work, then try these Sense based Roms:
Mikfroyo: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=883026
Myn's Warm: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=793471
Calkulin's EVIO: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=745205
If you don't mind not having 4G(or don't live in a 4G area), and don't plan to use HDMI, then check out these AOSP Roms:
MIUI: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=915527
Cyanogen mod 6: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=735596
Evervolv (gingerbread): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=878020
Cyanogen mod7 (gingerbread): 2 Links below
ROM: http://mirror.teamdouche.net/?type=nightly&device=supersonic
GAPPS: http://goo-inside.me/gapps/gapps-gb-20110120-signed.zip
*****To eVoKINGS******
Learn manners please KINGS, the guy thought he had the correct section, and apologized if it was the incorrect section and requested it be moved. If you don't like it don't post in it, he was already informed by others that it was the incorrect section, and then you had to try and jump down his throat about it.
Your posts are composed like they belong to a 12 year old kid googling words to sound older. You can't blame it on auto-correct, I use my EVO to compose a-lot of text messages and the words are never misspelled because I proof read what I type with it, so that I don't come across jabbering like an idiot.
And yes i realize my retort back at Kings is completely contradictory to what I had just typed.
Thanks so much. I was just trying to help the 'tweeners' in my position, those who have some but not too much experience with roms. And the entire reason I even asked/bothered to offer my time was because each ROM thread has numerous issues that are hard to decipher as being general widespread issues, or single isolated issues, and the process of sifting through gargantuan threads is pretty tedious.
small example: some roms have keyboard display issues
But I digress
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And to eVoKings, yeah it's awesome that you take a kernel and rom and twist the hell out of it, but in the end I'm the one using the kernel/rom and still want it to be fully functional (and everybody has a different definition of what exactly that constitutes). I'm honestly surprised at the amount of people who actually THANK devs, it's great. But you have to learn to take criticism too (even if it's free)

*POLL* - Merging Original Android Development and Android Development

Keep the thread alive and up guys.
Here are some very nice suggestion!​
Hello community.
As you all know and see there two different thread
Original Android Development
Android Development
In this two thread you can find different ROMs.
Therefore it is in some cases difficult to distinguish in which thread a ROM have to be. Some DEVs (@ the Android Development) think they are at the wrong place but the Mods doesnt want to move their thread.
Please make here you choice if you want the old subdivision (only Android Development) oder if you like the new one (Original Android Development and Android Development).
It would be nice if you can leave here your reasons for your choice..
Uh quite nice!?
NeoPhyTe.x360 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16205643&postcount=186
https://twitter.com/#!/VillainROM/status/98306513713635328
I quote it in case of be deleted, VillainROM Tweet 2 Aug. 10.17 am:
@VillainROM
VillainROM
LMFAO mate @Fysi. Can you vote for the 2 forum system at http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1198080 ^P
What are the interests of Villain Team, to keep forums separated?
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Source: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16295037&postcount=27
More splitting imo.
Kernels/roms(org/non)/radios/apps/themes
And a stricter policy on tagging threads in the tittle, eg [ROM][KERNEL] etc
Nice idea but i dont think that radios should have an extra thread. They can sty with kernels.
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roms(org/non)
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org/non = original/non Samsung or original/non AD?
veyka said:
More splitting imo.
Kernels/roms(org/non)/radios/apps/themes
And a stricter policy on tagging threads in the tittle, eg [ROM][KERNEL] etc
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+1
It is nice not seeing a 'new' rom being posted every two minutes where the only difference is the theme.
Perhaps the section titles could be a little bit clearer, For example: Android Development, and the other section called Themed Roms?
Id like to see even more splitting for ROM+Kernel and Kernel only releases, Its really a PIA sometimes to sort the threads out when your looking for something and it kinda scares off the newbie with a ton load of information and choices presented to him when his just looking for something specific.
Id say have a separate release for ROM+Kernel in 1 subforum and another for kernel only.
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veyka said:
More splitting imo.
Kernels/roms(org/non)/radios/apps/themes
And a stricter policy on tagging threads in the tittle, eg [ROM][KERNEL] etc
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I think that tagging is very important, I prefer only one section, but with very stricted thread's TAGGING...
And I think that is very important explain the non-cosmetic changes in every ROM.
Regards!
Exactly, strict tagging, good references as to where the rom was based on, and credits where needed.
One thread.
only one Android Development
One forum for development, one for roms and stuff. I have no interest in reading about the majority of the problems people have in installing a ROM, but would be interested in seeing the technical threads (if we still have technical threads here...)
Merge the Development forums again and require [ROM] and a date in the subject.
Require all [ROM]'s built from another 'original' rom's sources to have [DERIVATIVE] or something like to identify them with a link to the source rom in the thread.
Pull [KERNAL]'s out to a second forum, again require a date.
Create a 'Technical' forum and move all the discussion, speculation and stickies that clutter up the other ROM forums into here.
Create new forum for non-android development (like Backtrack or potential Linux releases).
I would suggest using [KERNEL] instead
godutch said:
i would suggest using [kernel] instead
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+1
Even if they decided to split they shouldn't be partial. Why is villain and darky rom in original development? They both look similar to stock to me with some mods.
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Personally, I like the idea of having a forum specifically for new ROMs. I can see the benefit of keeping modifications to ROMs in one forum and the real thing in another.
kirdroid said:
Even if they decided to split they shouldn't be partial. Why is villain and darky rom in original development? They both look similar to stock to me with some mods.
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Not stock kernel for starters on VR and that's the core of it .
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I like the idea of keeping photoshop roms separate from true developer roms like CM7.
Seriously, everyone who can use winzip and photoshop can make a rom and publish here, and from the looks of it, they do. It it were up to me, I'd actually not open a separate board, I'd delete them all.
As the creation of two separate dev boards was not motivated by any intention to make the forum easier for the user I'd have to say merge them back please. Seeing how it was motivated by greed and favoritism, indicated by the ROMs placement on one board or the other, I'd say screw this nazi maneuver, get your head out of your asses and realize you're all just tweakers and the ONLY REAL DEVELOPER IS SAMSUNG AND THE CM7 TEAM. So as the two forums are, only stock ROM and CM7 should be in the "real" dev forum. The rest of you take OTHERS work and tweak it (yes make it better etc etc, and we are all grateful for that). But come on you're not some super genius hacker dev here (and YES I appreciate your work and have donated but you are not "original developers"). As stated above this is about a "good ole' boys club", nothing else. Pathetic.
Endoran said:
As the creation of two separate dev boards was not motivated by any intention to make the forum easier for the user I'd have to say merge them back please. Seeing how it was motivated by greed and favoritism, indicated by the ROMs placement on one board or the other, I'd say screw this nazi maneuver, get your head out of your asses and realize you're all just tweakers and the ONLY REAL DEVELOPER IS SAMSUNG AND THE CM7 TEAM. So as the two forums are, only stock ROM and CM7 should be in the "real" dev forum. The rest of you take OTHERS work and tweak it (yes make it better etc etc, and we are all grateful for that). But come on you're not some super genius hacker dev here (and YES I appreciate your work and have donated but you are not "original developers"). As stated above this is about a "good ole' boys club", nothing else. Pathetic.
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+1 nothing to add
+1... So many stock Samsung roms are still in original development forum. All this is nothing but favoritism.
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[PROJECT] ASOP for HTC EVO 4G

Hello XDA,
My name is swagstr and I am as some would call a developer and others would call a contributor. Either way, I have created two very successful ROMs, SOS+ (X/S/M) for the HTC EVO 4G and SOS M for the HTC EVO 3D.
I have a vision for a new project and I was hoping to get as many developers and contributors as possible to help with this project.
The project is titled: All Swagged Out Project. It is a play on the way most people misspell AOSP.
The goal is simple. Every time a new developer or contributor begins to dig his/her heels in and tries to learn how to modify Android, this person has to search and search and search. I was hoping that the people that develop and contribute for the EVO devices could take the lead and create a repository of sorts for modifications.
A wise man named tommytomatoe (developer of The Classic ROM for the HTC EVO 4G) once said: "Sharing is caring." I fully believe in this motto and hope that everyone in the EVO community feels the same way. I have opened up several threads over at the SOS Forums where people can post their original (or borrowed) mods and tweaks for the EVO 4G LTE, 3D, V, and 4G. I would not be opposed to having these posted at XDA, but I think I would be nice to the XDA moderators if I took the moderating of these threads on myself. My goal is to moderate these threads and add as much information as possible to provide the best ROMs for EVO users.
I think this could revolutionize knowledge sharing in the Android community and I hope EVO users can lead the way.
Links:
EVO 4G LTE
EVO 3D and EVO V
EVO 4G
Have a great day
Interesting...........so we would have to register on this site in order to contribute to this project of yours??
Since it's a forum, I'd imagine so...
I could c people responding with different mods they find or make and posting them here and u maintaining a off site website where u store the mods in different categories. But it couldn't be in a forum like settings as redirecting from xda to another forum is frown upon.
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I figure that if I added, say, my Guide, I'd have to upload all the files that are linked in there to my dev-host, for example, then copy/paste the info with the links going to my site, instead of the xda links. I think that's what you.re trying to say, Smurf?
HipKat said:
Since it's a forum, I'd imagine so...
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Yeah the point I was trying to make was that since it is a forum that it will require people to sign up in order to contribute and this MIGHT be considered a form of advertising his site!
I know what he's trying to do is helpful BUT is the way that is being handled......that's why I said it was interesting! Obviously, I'm no moderator BUT I've been on XDA long enough to know that this kind of stuff like Papa Smurf said is frown upon.
We'll see what comes of this project...hahahaha
swagstr said:
Hello XDA,
My name is swagstr and I am as some would call a developer and others would call a contributor. Either way, I have created two very successful ROMs, SOS+ (X/S/M) for the HTC EVO 4G and SOS M for the HTC EVO 3D.
I have a vision for a new project and I was hoping to get as many developers and contributors as possible to help with this project.
The project is titled: All Swagged Out Project. It is a play on the way most people misspell AOSP.
The goal is simple. Every time a new developer or contributor begins to dig his/her heels in and tries to learn how to modify Android, this person has to search and search and search. I was hoping that the people that develop and contribute for the EVO devices could take the lead and create a repository of sorts for modifications.
A wise man named tommytomatoe (developer of The Classic ROM for the HTC EVO 4G) once said: "Sharing is caring." I fully believe in this motto and hope that everyone in the EVO community feels the same way. I have opened up several threads over at the SOS Forums where people can post their original (or borrowed) mods and tweaks for the EVO 4G LTE, 3D, V, and 4G. I would not be opposed to having these posted at XDA, but I think I would be nice to the XDA moderators if I took the moderating of these threads on myself. My goal is to moderate these threads and add as much information as possible to provide the best ROMs for EVO users.
I think this could revolutionize knowledge sharing in the Android community and I hope EVO users can lead the way.
Links:
EVO 4G LTE
EVO 3D and EVO V
EVO 4G
Have a great day
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Even though this is a great idea,i would'nt see having to go off site and register to post our knowledge/guides/mods and others from this forum as a redirect from XDA,but i would be interested if you would concider keeping this here on XDA instead.I think i have a few things to contribute that i've learned over time.
I appreciate the ideas and I like the discussion. Suggestions for how to keep this maintained on XDA?
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Isnt tommys famous motto enjoy the possibilities? Lol sharing is caring....
Well i think it should be on a different site like a forum but just one main big thread and we can use BB codes
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lreyes said:
Isnt tommys famous motto enjoy the possibilities? Lol sharing is caring....
Well i think it should be on a different site like a forum but just one main big thread and we can use BB codes
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Sharing is caring is something completely different then what swagstr is trying to do
YES he's trying to create something like a one stop shop for people starting up to help them and not cause them to spend hours and hours of searching.
The issue on hand I believe is that having it on a different site causes an issue with XDA rules and policies
Anyways, my suggestion to you swagstr is that you should request people to send you guides, suggestions, tips or whatever via PM and when you have enough of them.....start up a thread in the general section or maybe the development section.
Once you get enough guides or whatever, request that it be turn into a sticky
Hope everything works out as this is something that in my personal opinion could prove to be helpful if done correctly!
Let me know what you end up going with and I'll write up a few guides to contribute to it!
A thing like this is something I would be interested in.....
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