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T-Mobile SGSII

hey all, i was wondering if anyone had any information on the SGSII potentially coming to T-Mobile in the US. I read online that we might not get an actual SGSII and the we might get the Hercules and i've also heard that the Hercules will be the T-Mo version of the SGSII. I really would love to get one so i'm just hoping that they come stateside.
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Havent heard of anything for tmobile, just sprint/bell and possibly att lte sgs2.

Juls317 said:
hey all, i was wondering if anyone had any information on the SGSII potentially coming to T-Mobile in the US. I read online that we might not get an actual SGSII and the we might get the Hercules and i've also heard that the Hercules will be the T-Mo version of the SGSII. I really would love to get one so i'm just hoping that they come stateside.
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The Hercules is a variant of the U.S. market Infuse with a dual-core TI SoC. What other features it has haven't been confirmed. It's due out in September. T-Mobile won't be getting a version of the SGS2.
http://thisismynext.com/2011/05/17/exclusive-samsung-hercules-t-mobile-dual-core-infuse-4g/

would it be possible to buy an I9100 and unlock it and use it on tmobile
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Juls317 said:
would it be possible to buy an I9100 and unlock it and use it on tmobile
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You'd only get EDGE data speeds. Your only hope for a version that works on T-Mobile's bands is if Wind Canada gets one. But the Canadian's on the forum have said it's a Bell Canada exclusive so it's a long shot.

BarryH_GEG said:
You'd only get EDGE data speeds. Your only hope for a version that works on T-Mobile's bands is if Wind Canada gets one. But the Canadian's on the forum have said it's a Bell Canada exclusive so it's a long shot.
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Just got SGS2, it is connected to t-mobile usa, and it does only get EDGE speeds, and no HSPA+.
I can still keep it for trying out stuff for a bit, and would install any custom mods to try. If won't work, I may want to return it.
Is Wind Canada the only one with HSPA+ which is an option here?
There is no way to add only that support on top of a stock android?
The other feature that's needed to make it an excellent offering it T-Mobile Wi-Fi calling.
Any suggestions?

Ok, got an att sim and hspa+ works getting 6mbit downloads wih sgs2 now. Will only have that sim for test for three days. Though att is definitly costlier than tmobile for data and phone plans and they charge for overage rather than throttle.
Still my preference would be to hspa+ on tmobile, get tmobile wifi calling to work etc.
Also noted that tmobile wifi calling wont show as an app that backup software can see.
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arntgur said:
Ok, got an att sim and hspa+ works getting 6mbit downloads wih sgs2 now. Will only have that sim for test for three days. Though att is definitly costlier than tmobile for data and phone plans and they charge for overage rather than throttle.
Still my preference would be to hspa+ on tmobile, get tmobile wifi calling to work etc.
Also noted that tmobile wifi calling wont show as an app that backup software can see.
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I don't see AT&T being quite more expensive unless you really need the unlimited minutes. Otherwise you could get the medianet plan since the S2 isn't detected as a smartphone, which will solve your data problem for overages.

On tmobile i pay $25 for 'unlimited' data which means after 5gb it is throttled. I am on a no contract plan. Price for contract plan is $30 for the same data plan.
If i dont pay for overage its great. Yet them not recognizing it as smartphone may not hold for too long, as us flavors of s2 are being prepared.
While it does last that they dont recognise it as a smartphone, are you also on smallest data plan and pay the minimum?
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arntgur said:
On tmobile i pay $25 for 'unlimited' data which means after 5gb it is throttled. I am on a no contract plan. Price for contract plan is $30 for the same data plan.
If i dont pay for overage its great. Yet them not recognizing it as smartphone may not hold for too long, as us flavors of s2 are being prepared.
While it does last that they dont recognise it as a smartphone, are you also on smallest data plan and pay the minimum?
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There is an unlimited non smartphone data plan in att for just $15 and many of us are on that plan.
We do get hspa+ speeds on this plan. Pretty good deal compared to tmobile.
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I just bought an unlocked SGSII http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16875176292 from Newegg on "sale." It states that it has UMTS 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 MHz.
I thought T-mobile used 900 and 2100. Can anyone explain why it doesn't work with T-mobile?
Thanks.

gspears said:
I just bought an unlocked SGSII http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16875176292 from Newegg on "sale." It states that it has UMTS 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 MHz.
I thought T-mobile used 900 and 2100. Can anyone explain why it doesn't work with T-mobile?
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T-mobile uses 1700 and 2100, not 900 and 2100.

That would explain it.

Rrr, guess i missed the same point about tmobile's bands. There was a list of the 4 freauencies and no distinction of which one is for voice, data etc.
So running a speed test using AnTuTu benchmark clearly shows sgsii is a great pick performance wise as it is dominating the charts. Though that app lack a distinction for original cpu speeds. I may overclock it if i get time as its a fun game, thouhgh not right now.
Data plan wise, on att usa, you are on $15 for non smartphone. The its ar their mercy, and they could identify sgsii as smartphone anytime in which case we'd loose that excellent option, right?
Now got my previous smartphone, mytouch 4g with tmobile on a family plan. And that one would likely not fit on att hspa+ eigher. I can validate it later with my test card from att.
Phone plan wise att family starts at $69 for 700 min for two lines, and they also got 550 min unadvertized for $10 less. This is still $10 above t mobile base for family at $49, yet no big deal if att data is cheaper at $15 with the mentioned 'non smartphone' option.
With att data on hspa+, you vuys easily use the mobile access point without limitations? Have anyone tried vpning and working on that, remote desktop to work machine for a significant time, full working day, etc?
With my att test sim, hspa+ downloads are fine, anywhere from 1.5 to 6 mbits, uploads sometimes were slow around 300
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... uploads were around 300 kbit.
Will test it some more today and tomorrow from more locations in the area.
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arntgur said:
Now got my previous smartphone, mytouch 4g with tmobile on a family plan. And that one would likely not fit on att hspa+ eigher. I can validate it later with my test card from att.
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To save you and everyone else the trouble, as of now:
- There is no AT&T phone that supports HSPA+ on T-Mobile's network
- There is no T-Mobile phone that supports HSPA+ on AT&T's network
- There is no unbranded phone that supports HSPA+ on T-Mobile and AT&T, you have to pick one or the other. The SGS2 does not support, and most likely will never support, T-Mobile's funky AWS bands.
The Hercules is rumored to have AT&T's bands. So was the G2X and it didn't.

Thanks, that clarifies.
To maintain at least HSPA+ speeds, I can either Of two options:
- keep sgsii, move to AT&T, find how to migrate another existing smartphone since my tough 4g won't work with AT&T's data. *Maybe sell it and get another AT&T phone.
- return sgsii and stay on tmobile.
Have talked to AT&T support, and they confirmed that data plans for non smartphones begin at $10. *And that sgsii does not show as anything in their systems now neither a smartphone nor a non-smartphone. *And that it is correct that they can't guarantee anything about not identifying it as a smartphone in future.
So the best chance of the $15 data for non smartphones to last is if we get lucky enough that when they do launch the us AT&T version of sgsii, then the international one will be left out.
I am not exactly clear why the $15 non smartphone plan is needed over the $10 one. *Though, cant test too much with my AT&T temp sim, as they didn't want to change the plan the store gave me due to being on a trial period.
Still got today to try att sim out and can return with no fees, so will call or step by the store and check if that would be possible. *One challenge is that they already saw the phone and got excited, and listed it as a smartphone plan. * ..., we'll see how it goes...
Then I am also reading that AT&T talks about a dual LTE/HSPA+ support, yet that lte may take time to be battery friendly (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1162330&page=2). *
So possibly waiting for LTE to mature is not practical, in which case maybe no point in waiting for AT&T us version of sgsii which may only add LTE.
Coming from tmobile hspa+ usage since nov 2010, now when testing AT&T, it is more influenced from during the day traffic and speeds are slower vs faster speeds at less conventional hours. *Also seeing some sporadic speed tests issues coming from another device using the wifi hotspot - usually the upload, sometimes download too is near zero speed. *While most speed tests are decent. *Then have not seen any of that on tmobile.
One issue making me consider moving to AT&T is that tmobiles speeds in my new place are very bad for hspa+ if it at all it gets an*hspa signal. *Used to never need wifi and get consistent 4-6 mbits downloads ..., now getting even 1 from tmobile is a challenge.
Then, would like fast Internet when traveling overseas. *And tmobiles phone worked well last time with fast speeds. * Then I have seen some mentioning that tmobiles bands could be better for world traveling than AT&T, is that so?
(For instance*http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/android/thread?tid=4d1bbd0f46632e8d&hl=en has:
I can only say I use T-Mobile version and it IS working. I don't have AT&T one, can say nothing about it. Reason I have in mind while selecting model - in the most of the world T-Mobile version will have better coverage.
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arntgur said:
Thanks, that clarifies.
To maintain at least HSPA+ speeds, I can either Of two options:
- keep sgsii, move to AT&T, find how to migrate another existing smartphone since my tough 4g won't work with AT&T's data. *Maybe sell it and get another AT&T phone.
- return sgsii and stay on tmobile.
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- The $10 plan requires an unlimited messaging plan. The $15 plan is a stand-alone.
- The carrier versions of the SGS2 will have different model numbers and a different series of IMEI codes so I doubt that would effect the international SGS2 in AT&T's database.
- Our SGS2 won't support LTE. But it's going to take AT&T at least a year and a half to get any meaningful LTE penetration.
- I came from T-Mobile. AT&T's HSPA+ clocks a lot slower than T-Mobile's and isn't as widely available. For some reason though, things like video buffer less for me even though the speeds clock slower.
- AT&T is far better for international travel. They have roaming data plans you can pre-purchase that are less than 1/4 of what T-Mobile charges. Also, because the SGS2 is unlocked, you can pick up a SIM locally if you want to.

I'm surprised T-Mo isn't getting the GSII, they're usually good with Android.Well, this sucks...

jasonleb1 said:
I'm surprised T-Mo isn't getting the GSII, they're usually good with Android.Well, this sucks...
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No offense, but they're also the smallest carrier and are in the process of going away. I'm guessing they're getting an Infuse variant instead because Samsung's got the production capacity and probably cut them a deal.

Galaxy Note And Sprint

Is the Galaxy Note coming to the Sprint Network? Will it be 4G LTE?

Wouldnt mess with it because lte will take forever. I left sprint after 14 years was tired of waiting for 4G. Once i saw they were starting over with LTE I said forget it.
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pfer10 said:
Wouldnt mess with it because lte will take forever. I left sprint after 14 years was tired of waiting for 4G. Once i saw they were starting over with LTE I said forget it.
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stay away if your not already in a 4g area. for me, nothing but false hopes and promises...

LTE is a double edged sword... everyone thinks its a standard and simply having it is good.. but with 21 distinct freq bands the whole "standard" thing is massively overrated.
Sprint has favourable coverage of wimax vis the other 4G networks, but i would suspect that new phones will be targeting their lte bands..which is spotty at best right now.
TBH 4G coverage from any carrier is pretty weak and so I have no interest in a 4G device... for at least another 18-24 months...from any carrier.
If you live in one of the lucky cities and you dont travel, then its a decent choice.. but i dont, and i do.
Sprint is bound to get a phone similar to the Note at some point... but look to S2 and the SGS2E4GT storyline.. late and different. Given that it would be end this year at best its not likely to be the Note as we know it..

pfer10 said:
Wouldnt mess with it because lte will take forever. I left sprint after 14 years was tired of waiting for 4G. Once i saw they were starting over with LTE I said forget it.
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Amen!
8 years here. Up until 18 months ago I was getting 1+Mbps down and then it started falling. Best I was getting was 250kbps and nights and weekends were down to less then 50kbps. I ended up using a Verizon PRL to get data. Never had issues with call quality or dropped calls. The last straw was when I saw the LTE maps and again Sprint stops 20 miles short. I Screwed me out of Wimax and still charged my $10 more and now they were doing it again. I bet Sprint will add another fee for LTE's higher speeds.

Will that have good 4G LTE? Should I wait for the rumored Galaxy Note? Or should I just get the Nexus 4G LTE?

Any chance the note will come to Sprint? Or the note 2?
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LTE right now means:
1) ****ty Qualcomm processors (no Exynos until Intel releases XMM7060)
2) Poor battery life - LTE isn't going to be mature for another year or two, it's just like the first 2-3 years of UMTS.

...and no roaming.. ATT LTE not compatible with Verizon LTE not compatible with Sprint LTE note compatible with oh i give up i made my point....lol
Entropy512 said:
LTE right now means:
1) ****ty Qualcomm processors (no Exynos until Intel releases XMM7060)
2) Poor battery life - LTE isn't going to be mature for another year or two, it's just like the first 2-3 years of UMTS.
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gedster314 said:
Amen!
8 years here. Up until 18 months ago I was getting 1+Mbps down and then it started falling. Best I was getting was 250kbps and nights and weekends were down to less then 50kbps. I ended up using a Verizon PRL to get data. Never had issues with call quality or dropped calls. The last straw was when I saw the LTE maps and again Sprint stops 20 miles short. I Screwed me out of Wimax and still charged my $10 more and now they were doing it again. I bet Sprint will add another fee for LTE's higher speeds.
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I just left sprint. I'm in an area with excellent Wimax coverage. But I heard through the grapevine that with lte comes data throttling or pay to use. Same as Verizon did when they rolled out their lte network.
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gedster314 said:
Amen!
8 years here. Up until 18 months ago I was getting 1+Mbps down and then it started falling. Best I was getting was 250kbps and nights and weekends were down to less then 50kbps. I ended up using a Verizon PRL to get data. Never had issues with call quality or dropped calls. The last straw was when I saw the LTE maps and again Sprint stops 20 miles short. I Screwed me out of Wimax and still charged my $10 more and now they were doing it again. I bet Sprint will add another fee for LTE's higher speeds.
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Ditto.
I was amazed how much clearer and higher quality calls were when I flashed a corporate Sprint PRL to roam Verizon's 3G.
Sprint used to be competitive with their 3G network when I signed up with them but since then, they've neglected investing in their infrastructure and will be supporting 4 different networks until 2015! Absolutely ridiculous!
Their plan pricing was no longer the best, either.
I switched to GSM prepaid and will never again go to CDMA or enter a carrier contract, subsidized phones are not worth their value once contract cost is taken into consideration.
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When you root it or flash a new ROM does it give you portable wireless hot spot?
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I want one from at&t!

And still no real news as to release date??
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Were 3 days in to October can't wait until the 24th so Samsung can announce the release date . I'm waiting for the Verizon variant
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Though I'm with T-Mobile (not AT&T) I am really looking forward to T-Mobile's release of the Note 2. I'd initially thought I would be using my Note 2 as a WiFi device only to replace my 10.1" tablet but I'm now finding the Note 2 to be an excellent platform for a phone as well. As long as T-Mobile includes WiFi calling and their version is stable I'll be selling my HTC Sensation 4G and upgrading to their version of the Note 2. My boy wants to replace his iPad2 with a WiFi only Note 2. I get the T-Mobile Note 2, my boy trades me his iPad2 for my unlocked international Note2, and I sell the iPad2 and my HTC phone to absorb some of the cost. I'm really looking forward to moving everything over to the Note2 (phone', data, tablet functions ). November perhaps?

I couldn't wait for the AT&T one... Went ahead and bit the bullet and purchased from UK. Hoping the HSPA+ is kinder to battery life to help make up for the lack of LTE. So far HSPA+ has been fine for me and I am lovin the Note II!!!

I'm waiting on the AT&T version also. Anyone want to guess what it would cost to buy it out right from AT&T(Amazon) with no contract? I may wait a month to see if it drops a few bucks.
Those of you who still have unlimited data through AT&T. Is it correct that on LTE after 5gigs they throttle you but on 3G they throttle you after 3gigs.
How does the throttling of LTE work? Will they throttle you down from LTE to 3G or can you turn off LTE and then you get to burn through 3gigs 3G data too for a total of 8GB or is it when they throttle you you get throttled all the way down to EDGE like speeds?

649$,,IF SO BETTER OFF TO GET INTERNATIONAL,sorry for caps,I'll just wait it out and see any differences.

Why would it be better to get the international version if the AT&T is $649? Is it cheaper or something. I'm in the states and don't travel over seas, although I don't live in a LTE city I often visit one that does. Also I think if order from Amazon I can take advantage of the sales tax loop hole and not pay that or shipping.
AT&T is also my carrier

I agree with Daps I will wait for the at&t version. Unless there some big downfall like the at&t s3 there's no reason to get the international! But really what is the International version now? It seems like there are so many variations of the Note 2 I'm not really sure anymore! Maybe the us version will be the most sought after version and get exported to the rest of the world and have the most development support! ...... Okay well a guy can hope can't he...... Lol
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Deaj said:
Though I'm with T-Mobile (not AT&T) I am really looking forward to T-Mobile's release of the Note 2. I'd initially thought I would be using my Note 2 as a WiFi device only to replace my 10.1" tablet but I'm now finding the Note 2 to be an excellent platform for a phone as well. As long as T-Mobile includes WiFi calling and their version is stable I'll be selling my HTC Sensation 4G and upgrading to their version of the Note 2. My boy wants to replace his iPad2 with a WiFi only Note 2. I get the T-Mobile Note 2, my boy trades me his iPad2 for my unlocked international Note2, and I sell the iPad2 and my HTC phone to absorb some of the cost. I'm really looking forward to moving everything over to the Note2 (phone', data, tablet functions ). November perhaps?
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I'm in the same situation as you, waiting very patiently for a T-Mobile version (I NEED Wifi Calling... most ingenious idea EVER) while I try to dredge through the days with my Sensation 4G... I really hope it comes out early November... I don't think i can wait any longer!

Also looking for AT&T variant
I have GNote International now, on AT&T and want LTE GNote2.
I expect it w/b offered at $299 wt 2 year contract BUT do you think Amazon will ever have AT&T version at off contract pricing?
And if so, how long might it take for Amazon to get it after it is officially available from AT&T?
Thanks,

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I agree with Daps I will wait for the at&t version. Unless there some big downfall like the at&t s3 there's no reason to get the international! But really what is the International version now? It seems like there are so many variations of the Note 2 I'm not really sure anymore! Maybe the us version will be the most sought after version and get exported to the rest of the world and have the most development support! ...... Okay well a guy can hope can't he...... Lol
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International version on AT&T (N7100) : HSPA speeds quad core + 2 gb ram
US version (N7105): LTE speeds, quad core + 2gb ram
No confusion anymore

claude4 said:
I have GNote International now, on AT&T and want LTE GNote2.
I expect it w/b offered at $299 wt 2 year contract BUT do you think Amazon will ever have AT&T version at off contract pricing?
And if so, how long might it take for Amazon to get it after it is officially available from AT&T?
Thanks,
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I'm sure they will. I seem to remember seeing the SIII and you could get it off contract. How long I have no clue. As much as I hate to wait.

CrozB said:
I couldn't wait for the AT&T one... Went ahead and bit the bullet and purchased from UK. Hoping the HSPA+ is kinder to battery life to help make up for the lack of LTE. So far HSPA+ has been fine for me and I am lovin the Note II!!!
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Specs on Samsung website state that HSPA+/LTE phones get about 7-15% less battery than 3G/LTE Note 2's. I wonder if that is because HSPA+ and it's variants drain more battery because it is faster, or the 3G/LTE antenna needs less power since 3G and LTE are both Qualcomm's technology probably needing one less antenna.
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AT&T NOTE II Buttons
Anyone know if the ATT version of the Note 2 will have the middle button like the international Note 1?

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Anyone know if the ATT version of the Note 2 will have the middle button like the international Note 1?
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It will be exactly identical to the Euro version.( minus the logo on the back cover)

Daps said:
I'm waiting on the AT&T version also. Anyone want to guess what it would cost to buy it out right from AT&T(Amazon) with no contract? I may wait a month to see if it drops a few bucks.
Those of you who still have unlimited data through AT&T. Is it correct that on LTE after 5gigs they throttle you but on 3G they throttle you after 3gigs.
How does the throttling of LTE work? Will they throttle you down from LTE to 3G or can you turn off LTE and then you get to burn through 3gigs 3G data too for a total of 8GB or is it when they throttle you you get throttled all the way down to EDGE like speeds?
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I usually purchase off contract with att. On Amazon the prices can be a bit higher initially for off contract. I usually get it from att or best buy as best buy is usually higher but will match the price. I just find it easier to switch it out locally in the first 30 days if there is an issue. I suspect 650 on att and slightly higher on amazon initially.
You are correct on the limits. I have not been throttled on my unlimited lte plan because I use wifi often. I have not used over 2.5 GB. I believe they used to throttle you to edge but now it is to 3g until the next monthly cycle starts over.
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planoman said:
I usually purchase off contract with att. On Amazon the prices can be a bit higher initially for off contract. I usually get it from att or best buy as best buy is usually higher but will match the price. I just find it easier to switch it out locally in the first 30 days if there is an issue. I suspect 650 on att and slightly higher on amazon initially.
You are correct on the limits. I have not been throttled on my unlimited lte plan because I use wifi often. I have not used over 2.5 GB. I believe they used to throttle you to edge but now it is to 3g until the next monthly cycle starts over.
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Thanks. If it's $650 on AT&T I'll just buy it there or go to BestBuy and get them to price match as I got a buddy who works there. You're right about the switching out. I have a cousin who is a AT&T manager but not on the wireless side. I wonder if she get's discounts on phones. I'd send her the money to get me one if the discount was large enough.
Same boat as you. I've never been throttled because I'm on Wifi most of the time also. So you're saying if I'm on LTE and use my 5GB, they'll throttle me to 3G? I'd never use that much on my phone but it's nice to have.
AT&T does need to speed up their LTE roll out. Verizon already has LTE here. Saw it on a coworkers iPhone5

Should i buy now or wait for 7105

I really want to get my hands on the note 2 but my mind tells me to wait for the US lte version but im dying to have one as soon as possibe. Will you wait for the lte or will you just buy the international 3g version only?

Get it if you don't mind slow ass data on a $700 device.
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Get it if you don't mind slow ass data on a $700 device.
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True , i would rather wait as it will be annouced on the 24th here in the US . International user would cry in envy not having an lte and for what i know the UK will be introducing the lte band by the end of october which makes the international 3g version seems obsolete in lessthan 2mos.

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True , i would rather wait as it will be annouced on the 24th here in the US . International user would cry in envy not having an lte and for what i know the UK will be introducing the lte band by the end of october which makes the international 3g version seems obsolete in lessthan 2mos.
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Thread closed!!! You already had your mind made up.
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mywingtophone said:
True , i would rather wait as it will be annouced on the 24th here in the US . International user would cry in envy not having an lte and for what i know the UK will be introducing the lte band by the end of october which makes the international 3g version seems obsolete in lessthan 2mos.
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LTE in the UK will initially only be available in 10 cities, and on ONE network. It'll be at least a year before other networks get theirs online as they spectrum sale isn't due to happen until spring 2013. Then it'll take a year or more to roll out to anywhere other than the major cities, then even more time for the contract prices to become reasonable.
By the time LTE becomes viable here, everyone's 2 year contracts on their N2's will be long finished.

For me 3G is enough, and it is absolutely not slow, 5-6 mbps is more than enough on a smartphone . Keep in mind the LTE consumes alot from the battery.
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I'm on 3G HSPA+, and achieve speeds of 10mbits down.
I'm happy as I've never had anything faster than 5mbits on iPhone 4. I'm in UK, so we're still deprived of 4G.
For those lot in the States, and if you're used to 4G speeds, I would say wait til your carrier offers it.

I guess it depends on your requirements, for me, I am on wifi 90% of the time, so it doesn't particulary interest me. Although of course it would be nice to have.

dont buy the international version, it's only GSM. Get the CDMA/LTE/GSM version when it comes out on Sprint or Verizon, and it's an international phone with support for even more frequencies.

FYI, Singapore will be selling international N7105 by end of OCT too. LTE version of cos.
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Beware the N7100/N7105 UK Con

I hit the high street today in search of an N7105 to go on three's network with the hope of being 4G ready, this is what I found
1) I went into a 3 store and got to play with a real "3" note 2, this was an N7100 despite "3's" customer service promising me that it was 4G ready for sure, it turns out they are currently only stocking the N7100 what is really bad is that 3 are pushing the fact that they are upgrading their network to DC-HSDPA (theoretical 42 Mbps real world 15 mbps) but regarding Samsungs the only DC-HSDPA phone available are the Galaxy S3 LTE and the Note 2 LTE, so the regular note 2 will not be able to make the best of "3s" newly enhanced network.
2) I went into phones 4U as independent phone shops buy their own phones and so in theory will be able to sell you an N7105 on any network you want. This was even worse! where as T-mobile/Orange customers are getting the N7105 direct from their provider if they either start up new contracts or upgrade, if you sign up to a new contract or upgrade via phones 4U they are dishing out the N7100, they don't have any N7105's in stock and when they get them they will be exclusively dishing them out to people signing up to new contracts on EE.
If I was with T-Mobile/Orange and got an N7100 through phones 4U when I was meant to get an N7105 I would be very unimpressed.

this is no news at all. the LTE phones available in UK now are designed to work with EE network 4G frequencies. your taking a big gamble buying one and hoping it will work with a specific network next year. and as s general advice dont believe what the sales representative will tell you. do your research before going into the shop.
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koahhe said:
this is no news at all. the LTE phones available in UK now are designed to work with EE network 4G frequencies. your taking a big gamble buying one and hoping it will work with a specific network next year. and as s general advice dont believe what the sales representative will tell you. do your research before going into the shop.
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Sorry to say but, you're wrong.
It's well known what frequencies will be used and the n7105 will work on all of them, plus as the op said it has dc-h+ which means you can get unlimited near 4g speeds with all you can eat data from Three for as little as £12.90 pcm.
It's £509 for the phone.
£12 to unlock
Clearly the best option for the money conscious data hog.
And OP you might not be able to get an n7105 from anyone other than EE for sometime, or they might appear tomorrow. It has about the same likelihood of the 32gb version turning up.
(Actually Samsung might have said the 32 isn't coming? I'm not sure on that one?)
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Where can you buy a N7105 for £509?

pointless for me to have LTE. Don't live anywhere near a 4G area, the prices are a complete ripoff & by the time it arrives my contract will be up then and i will getting the note 3

Personally, I wouldn't bother with 4G in the UK. Where I live, which is a heavy population (Milton Keynes,) 4G is expected to hit in 2 years; which, by then i'll probably have the note 4
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Suicidal Chicken said:
Personally, I wouldn't bother with 4G in the UK. Where I live, which is a heavy population (Milton Keynes,) 4G is expected to hit in 2 years; which, by then i'll probably have the note 4
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Its not so much the 4g I'm bothered about... its more the resale value of a 3g phone in 2 years when all the networks are running 4g as standard ...
That and possibly the ability to use threes hspda+42 add an alternative to 4g

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Where can you buy a N7105 for £509?
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Orange...

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I hit the high street today in search of an N7105 to go on three's network with the hope of being 4G ready, this is what I found
1) I went into a 3 store and got to play with a real "3" note 2, this was an N7100 despite "3's" customer service promising me that it was 4G ready for sure, it turns out they are currently only stocking the N7100 what is really bad is that 3 are pushing the fact that they are upgrading their network to DC-HSDPA (theoretical 42 Mbps real world 15 mbps) but regarding Samsungs the only DC-HSDPA phone available are the Galaxy S3 LTE and the Note 2 LTE, so the regular note 2 will not be able to make the best of "3s" newly enhanced network.
2) I went into phones 4U as independent phone shops buy their own phones and so in theory will be able to sell you an N7105 on any network you want. This was even worse! where as T-mobile/Orange customers are getting the N7105 direct from their provider if they either start up new contracts or upgrade, if you sign up to a new contract or upgrade via phones 4U they are dishing out the N7100, they don't have any N7105's in stock and when they get them they will be exclusively dishing them out to people signing up to new contracts on EE.
If I was with T-Mobile/Orange and got an N7100 through phones 4U when I was meant to get an N7105 I would be very unimpressed.
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OP, I have the GT-N7100 on Three and last weekend Three upgraded their network near me. My speeds went up from the usual 3Mbps/4Mbps to between 15Mbps/16Mbps which is "near" "real" 4G speeds without the extra OTT EE cost.
So, in fact the regular note 2 will be able to make the best of "3s" newly enhanced network.
I'm more than happy with that Free from Three.
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artnada said:
OP, I have the GT-7100 on Three and last weekend Three upgraded their network near me. My speeds went up from 3Mbps/4Mbps to between 15Mbps/16Mbps which is "near" "real" 4G speeds without the extra OTT cost.
I'm more than happy with that Free from Three.
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Wow, is that really HSPA+21?
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My area which is in Central London also provides speeds of up to 15mb/s.
And that's 7100. HSPA+ 21.
Just shows that 3 are very competitive, and they give free data.

RambJoe said:
Wow, is that really HSPA+21?
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I get HSDPA ("H" on signal bar) Screenshot
And now I also now get HSPAP (H+ on signal bar) Screenshot
Speedtest taken a few mins ago HERE
Needless to say, I am very happy now.

Interesting comments,
I currently have a Samsung Galaxy S2, I regularly get 8 ish Mbps on three's network and once got a real 15 Mbps in liverpool, So im hoping that they are being conservative on their DC-HSDPA speed advertisements, but even double what I get now would be excellent.
this is no news at all. the LTE phones available in UK now are designed to work with EE network 4G frequencies. your taking a big gamble buying one and hoping it will work with a specific network next year. and as s general advice dont believe what the sales representative will tell you. do your research before going into the shop.
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I don't think it is a gamble, as i'm confident that 3 will be sharing T-mobiles 4G network ( they already share their 3G network) see here for proof on that.
http://www.mbnl.co.uk/about.php
and this from the BBC
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19786041
the important bit being
The UK's fourth biggest network - Three - is set to take over part of EE's 4G spectrum, but is not due to do so until September 2013.
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Further, because of the network sharing it seems likely that EE are also about to get DC-HSDPA, which means they are doing right by their customers handing out N7105's even to customers that are only on 3G tariffs (unless you get your phone from phones 4U, in which case you are being parmed off with an N7100)

Reports say you can get the n7105 from ee for 459. Go get it and be happy. Unless you like custom roms and want them NOW.
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I got an N1705 as an upgrade from T-Mobile. Unfortunately there's not going to be any 4G round my way for a while.

Chivalryyyy said:
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Go direct to EE they have it for £499

N7105 in the UK
You're all dreaming......There is no where in any of the Uk stores (t mobile, orange, EE, phones 4 U etc) where you can buy the N7105 for £499 or £450 or any of the prices quoted here.....period! You cannot get it on Pay as you go, and the only way to get it sim free through the retailers is to pay top whack at £999 at a Samsung store or go for a pay monthly contract with EE for a min. of 12 months. Online the best bet in the UK with all the taxes paid etc. is at prepaymania.co.uk at £563 or chance it on eBay and they're currently fetching about £510 but you'll need to buy an unlock code on top of this. So......as of today in the UK that's the best you'll get for the LTE Note II

Sorry haven't read whole post so apologies if this is a repeat.
The tmobile people said it's exclusive to EE until next summer. So other providers will have to latch off EE if they want it. This will mean increased premiums or lower speeds. In terms of phones I'm with tmob and I got the 7105 and upgrade to 4G thingy was £5 extra pm (didn't go for it as I don't need the speeds).
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gwelmor said:
You're all dreaming......There is no where in any of the Uk stores (t mobile, orange, EE, phones 4 U etc) where you can buy the N7105 for £499 or £450 or any of the prices quoted here.....period! You cannot get it on Pay as you go, and the only way to get it sim free through the retailers is to pay top whack at £999 at a Samsung store or go for a pay monthly contract with EE for a min. of 12 months. Online the best bet in the UK with all the taxes paid etc. is at prepaymania.co.uk at £563 or chance it on eBay and they're currently fetching about £510 but you'll need to buy an unlock code on top of this. So......as of today in the UK that's the best you'll get for the LTE Note II
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I bought mine from an Orange shop for 509 sometime ago. I read two reports they'll let yo walk away with it for 459. Both those prices include a mandatory £10 top up.
I read a report of it this device being unlocked by a third party for £12.
Im not dreaming.
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How is this a "con" more like sounds people not doing research and listening to stupid network staff to me
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