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memory partition for apps

searched around and can't really find right answers.
I currently have HD2 with 512mb running android. Due to the lack of internal storage space, all apps are stored in the EXT4 on the SD card. This is a very neat function actually. Every time I flash a rom, all the apps will still be there.
I am about to get the DHD soon and since it's got plenty internal storage I guess it's natural to install app on internal rather than on SD (i know some rom do have support for EXT on SD). My question is, is there a way to partition the internal storage so part of it act as EXT, this way every time flashing a rom I don't have to restore all the apps??
If there is another way to achieve this, please let me know as well.
thanks,

No need to do anything like that. Before you flash a new ROM just wipe all the partitions apart from the data partition. Once you have flashed the ROM your apps will still be there.
You can use an add on script for apps to SD as well if you prefer.
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Blinkydamo said:
No need to do anything like that. Before you flash a new ROM just wipe all the partitions apart from the data partition. Once you have flashed the ROM your apps will still be there.
You can use an add on script for apps to SD as well if you prefer.
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Good to know that there will be no problem re-installing apps. Since I can't get hands dirty with an actual unit yet, could you please explain a little on the "wiping all the partitions apart from data partition". So by default, apps will be installed in a separate partition? what do you use to WIPE paritions? Clockwork or wipe-all?

Go into clockwork recovery you can select which partitions to wipe. Go into the mounts part and you can wipe them individually, wipe each one in turn apart from the data partition.
If however you experience problems yo. May have to wipe the data partition. Just do a backup first.
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flash rom while keeping all the apps

what's the best way (is there a way) to flash/test different roms while keep all the apps intact in the main storage?
From what I read, i am not sure if the following 2 options are correct:
1. under recover, only wipe cash and leave the data alone.
2. use the EASY-UPGRADE-WIPE.zip instead of the FULL-WIPE
Am I on the right track or is there a better way of doing it? I know install on EXT on SD can solve this but I rather want apps installed on the main storage since there is plenty available.
thanks,

You could try titanium backup, I use that to keep all my apps when flashing a new rom.

If your staying on the dame base, then don't wipe your data partition. As far as I know it'll keep all your apps for you.
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Titanium backup or mybackuproot. However when using titanium backup, do not backup system settings because you are touching on diffferent roms .
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I am very familiar with TB but just trying to see if there is an easier option.
Blinkydamo said:
If your staying on the dame base, then don't wipe your data partition. As far as I know it'll keep all your apps for you.
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say I use a gingerbread rom and now updating to another gingerbread rom all I have to do is to update the zip file through recovery? Even I do a wipe for everything it will still maintain the apps?

Getting Error downloading certain apps from the market

I flashed the CM7 Epicmtd selfkang 12/13 build today and i am noticing that certain apps that i have purchased and free ones as well give me an error "insufficient space on the phone" i am attaching a screenshot of it. I checked the internal storage at its indicating i have 433mb of free space. Can you anyone help? I wiped data / cache and dalvik 3x prior of flashing this build. The ROM I was using before was cm7 Epic selfkang 11/24 build (BML).

Your phone has very limited space for app storage. You need to either delete unused apps or move whichever apps that will go to the sd card.
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I had the same problem all u got to do is wipe ur cache & dalvik. I looked in the cm7 thread but it took awhile go thru and read all the posts but it was worth it.
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migmartinez said:
I had the same problem all u got to do is wipe ur cache & dalvik. I looked in the cm7 thread but it took awhile go thru and read all the posts but it was worth it.
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Thanks for the response, but i wiped dalvik and cache and still a no go. Its only on certain apps not all which is mind boggling. Any other suggestions???

kennyglass123 said:
Your phone has very limited space for app storage. You need to either delete unused apps or move whichever apps that will go to the sd card.
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Thanks for the advice but do i still move the apps to my SD even though the phone has a lot of free space in the internal storage??

alfalvarez81 said:
Thanks for the advice but do i still move the apps to my SD even though the phone has a lot of free space in the internal storage??
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No. I know what your problem is now. You have pieces of those apps still on your phone causing that error. It happened to me with the ebay app and youtube. You need to use root explorer to search your phone storage for any filename with the name of the app. For example youtube. You may find files like com.android.youtube. or simiiliar. You will need to delete those remnants and then you should be good.
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Thanks for info, but still a no go. I deleted all the files associated with the app using root explorer till the built in search didn't turn up any results. I read a post from another user with this ROM having trouble installing apps larger than the size of the cache partition, so I'm guessing that could be it. Just unsure....
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Yeah bro... the cache partition is where Market tries to put the download and if you are on current CM7 MTD your cache is 25MB total. That's a no go for some apps on the market. You can see your cache size and free space by running df -h in term emulator.
You can:
1. Restore app with Ti if you had it installed before and backed up in Ti
2. Wait for next version of CM7 MTD and hope cache partition is bigger (would require a fresh CM7 install as it will redo partitions (eg fdisk'ing will wipe them clean))
3. Go back to non MTD ROM and get app installed and backed up with Ti so you can restore it once you go back onto CM7 MTD
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codest3r said:
Yeah bro... the cache partition is where Market tries to put the download and if you are on current CM7 MTD your cache is 25MB total. That's a no go for some apps on the market. You can see your cache size and free space by running df -h in term emulator.
You can:
1. Restore app with Ti if you had it installed before and backed up in Ti
2. Wait for next version of CM7 MTD and hope cache partition is bigger (would require a fresh CM7 install as it will redo partitions (eg fdisk'ing will wipe them clean))
3. Go back to non MTD ROM and get app installed and backed up with Ti so you can restore it once you go back onto CM7 MTD
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Thanks for the confirmation, I will do the steps you provided for the apps I really can't live without haha. Hope the next build has more space than 25mb in the cache.
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I'm sure it'll be adjusted, seems like I've heard the 25MB Cache partition was more proof of concept. But I'm not one of the devs so take it with a grain of salt

I found another work around. If you could get a hold of the apk, then it'll install.
I used my wife's phone to download Frontline Commando, pulled it with Total Commander (or your favorite file explorer) and copied it over. It installed fine.
The file was 27.## MB.

Sneezy is right, that will work if you have a spare device.
Or try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20388693
[ROM] Epicmtd CM7 SELFKANG - 2.3.7 [NOW WITH MORE E911]
Market Fix link!?
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Problem with internal memory on froyo JPU

Hey friends,,
I've lately facing a problem with my galaxy 3. Lately i've been using custom ROM's based on JPU and the internal memory is getting low too quickly. It's like the apps take the double of its real size, so i can't have even more than 15 apps that my internal memory is already gone...
To realize if it's the custom ROM or not, I've tried the original froyo version I5800XXJPU and have got the same problem. Initially the total free memory was 170mb, after the system updates (gmail, market, google search...) it decreased to 130mb, and after just installing the facebook and facebook messenger it's about to 100mb
I don't use Hybrid Data2sd, because i simply don't like it and had some problems with it last time. And yes, i move the apps to the sd card in the own system interface.
Am I doing something wrong? Someone knows how to solve it?

vitoi said:
Hey friends,,
I've lately facing a problem with my galaxy 3. Lately i've been using custom ROM's based on JPU and the internal memory is getting low too quickly. It's like the apps take the double of its real size, so i can't have even more than 15 apps that my internal memory is already gone...
To realize if it's the custom ROM or not, I've tried the original froyo version I5800XXJPU and have got the same problem. Initially the total free memory was 170mb, after the system updates (gmail, market, google search...) it decreased to 130mb, and after just installing the facebook and facebook messenger it's about to 100mb
I don't use Hybrid Data2sd, because i simply don't like it and had some problems with it last time. And yes, i move the apps to the sd card in the own system interface.
Am I doing something wrong? Someone knows how to solve it?
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The dalvik cache is probably taking up a lot of memory. Just wipe the dalvik cache and cache in recovery and you should get maybe 10 extra MB or so.

Smonic said:
The dalvik cache is probably taking up a lot of memory. Just wipe the dalvik cache and cache in recovery and you should get maybe 10 extra MB or so.
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By the original ROM's recovery I am only able to delete the Cache. So I did and didn't free any space .
The memory that was 100mb free, now is 88mb, without installing anything.

vitoi said:
By the original ROM's recovery I am only able to delete the Cache. So I did and didn't free any space .
The memory that was 100mb free, now is 88mb, without installing anything.
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Just flash Kyrillos' V10.2. It has app2sd right out of the box so no need for configuration or anything like that. It's simple and kyrillos' app2sd scripts are always fast and not buggy.

Smonic said:
Just flash Kyrillos' V10.2. It has app2sd right out of the box so no need for configuration or anything like that. It's simple and kyrillos' app2sd scripts are always fast and not buggy.
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Thanks for your help. I would like to use the original froyo ROM, I am tired of custom ROM's, they are giving me headache :O. So if you know a stable froyo rom, without this nasty problem of the internal memory, I'd be glad if you send me. Without bootloader preferentially.

Try link 2 sd
Cheers
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vitoi said:
Thanks for your help. I would like to use the original froyo ROM, I am tired of custom ROM's, they are giving me headache :O. So if you know a stable froyo rom, without this nasty problem of the internal memory, I'd be glad if you send me. Without bootloader preferentially.
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well, my custom rom(Purumod) has 183 mb without any help of app2sd and others......(Not advertising, you can try it if you want)

J.Purungrit said:
well, my custom rom(Purumod) has 183 mb without any help of app2sd and others......(Not advertising, you can try it if you want)
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its actually a very good rom.

Ava.tar said:
its actually a very good rom.
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well thanks.....u tried it?

vitoi said:
Hey friends,,
I've lately facing a problem with my galaxy 3. Lately i've been using custom ROM's based on JPU and the internal memory is getting low too quickly. It's like the apps take the double of its real size, so i can't have even more than 15 apps that my internal memory is already gone...
To realize if it's the custom ROM or not, I've tried the original froyo version I5800XXJPU and have got the same problem. Initially the total free memory was 170mb, after the system updates (gmail, market, google search...) it decreased to 130mb, and after just installing the facebook and facebook messenger it's about to 100mb
I don't use Hybrid Data2sd, because i simply don't like it and had some problems with it last time. And yes, i move the apps to the sd card in the own system interface.
Am I doing something wrong? Someone knows how to solve it?
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check your internal and external memory for .exe file virus with esfile explorer

One simple thing - DEODEX
When you deodex the dalvik cache goes to /data for /system/app and ../framework also.. I am on ODEX and it's good enough.. PS - You need to odex manually or download a pure stock ROM or some odexed custom ROM..
IF THIS IS NOT THE PROBLEM PLEASE CONTACT ME or SOMEONE ELSE WHO CAN HELP
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[Q] storage space running out

hi,
i have a storage issue that i'll like to ask the gurus.. I've just moved from PSX's v8.5 (4.3) to PSX v3 (4.4) and along the way, I've made numerous backups just in case. after flashing v3 and hellscore b43, i ran into a storage space issue where my N4 told me i had insufficient space to install more apps, to work system functions, anything. Ive attached a screenshot of my storage, but it seems to be there is a good 5-6gb of space unaccounted for? i have v little songs in my phone, no movies, little apps as well. its rooted. can anyone point to as to how i can solve this?
thanks!
to add on, I've used storage analyser to better understand by storage, and it says i have 9.87gb available, whilte the stock storage details shows the number at 611mb.
help pls?

thejiajielee said:
hi,
i have a storage issue that i'll like to ask the gurus.. I've just moved from PSX's v8.5 (4.3) to PSX v3 (4.4) and along the way, I've made numerous backups just in case. after flashing v3 and hellscore b43, i ran into a storage space issue where my N4 told me i had insufficient space to install more apps, to work system functions, anything. Ive attached a screenshot of my storage, but it seems to be there is a good 5-6gb of space unaccounted for? i have v little songs in my phone, no movies, little apps as well. its rooted. can anyone point to as to how i can solve this?
thanks!
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Try flashing SuperSU via the recovery.
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hi, I've tried that, but to no avail..

ive also realised that system data takes up a huge chunk, more than 6gb. which is where most of the missing storage is. help, anyone?

thejiajielee said:
ive also realised that system data takes up a huge chunk, more than 6gb. which is where most of the missing storage is. help, anyone?
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Have you downgraded to the rom where you don't have this problem?
Sent from my Nexus 7 (2013)

I only just realised I was having the same issue when I got an insufficient storage available message while trying to update some apps. To solve it reboot into recovery then go on backup and restore and delete any unnecessary backups you have, if the ROM's working now then you could do with deleting all of the old backups and making one fresh one with the new ROM. Also do the 'free unused space' thing in CWM, I had no backups but somehow there was almost 3 gigs of space being wasted by CWM. There's probably something similar in TWRP if you use that

thejiajielee said:
ive also realised that system data takes up a huge chunk, more than 6gb. which is where most of the missing storage is. help, anyone?
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You've got the right app. check your /data directory to see what's chewing up space. I bet it's TWRP or other stuff stored by your recovery manager.

Use this great app to check whats taking up space: Storage analyzer

When u make full backups they won't show up in the system storage scan. Go to the file directly n try deleting an old backup. I guarantee u will see more space available after u do. Each backup is usually about 400-500mb depending on how many apps n other data u have
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Or maybe you got shrinkage problem which is pretty normal when upgrading (seeing that you flashed 4.4.2 rom over 4.3 rom). Your 16gb nexus was shrinked to 8gb. The easiest way to fix it is by formatting your internal in recovery (or flash stock recovery and do factory reset). Do make backup of your things though cause you'll lose them.