memory partition for apps - Desire HD General

searched around and can't really find right answers.
I currently have HD2 with 512mb running android. Due to the lack of internal storage space, all apps are stored in the EXT4 on the SD card. This is a very neat function actually. Every time I flash a rom, all the apps will still be there.
I am about to get the DHD soon and since it's got plenty internal storage I guess it's natural to install app on internal rather than on SD (i know some rom do have support for EXT on SD). My question is, is there a way to partition the internal storage so part of it act as EXT, this way every time flashing a rom I don't have to restore all the apps??
If there is another way to achieve this, please let me know as well.
thanks,

No need to do anything like that. Before you flash a new ROM just wipe all the partitions apart from the data partition. Once you have flashed the ROM your apps will still be there.
You can use an add on script for apps to SD as well if you prefer.
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Blinkydamo said:
No need to do anything like that. Before you flash a new ROM just wipe all the partitions apart from the data partition. Once you have flashed the ROM your apps will still be there.
You can use an add on script for apps to SD as well if you prefer.
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Good to know that there will be no problem re-installing apps. Since I can't get hands dirty with an actual unit yet, could you please explain a little on the "wiping all the partitions apart from data partition". So by default, apps will be installed in a separate partition? what do you use to WIPE paritions? Clockwork or wipe-all?

Go into clockwork recovery you can select which partitions to wipe. Go into the mounts part and you can wipe them individually, wipe each one in turn apart from the data partition.
If however you experience problems yo. May have to wipe the data partition. Just do a backup first.
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Move all apps to sd and set as default?

Hey guys how do you move ALL apps and data to your sd card so when I flash roms (theres a new update everyday it gets too hard) I dont lose my progress in apps and I dont have to reinstall they are already there, is it possible to do this?
Also can you set sd card as default so new apps you install automatically go there.
It would be nice if I could partition just like 1 gb of my SD card just for apps!
Ive searched a few threads and stuff trying to gather information but none of them really helped alot so sorry if this has been answered!
What ROM are you running?
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What ROM are you running?
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RCmix3D at the moment, thinking about flashing Honey sense hd for a while!
I just want to make a partition of about 700mb onto the SD and move ALL my apps to it so I dont lose my progress and I dont have to worry about them when I flash roms!
thanks in advance!
Hello,
I'm unsure of any batch command to send all existing apps to SD so you may have to go to Settings> Applications> Manage Apps and move each one individually.
To change default app install location, use the following command either through ADB or in a terminal emulator:
pm setInstallLocation 2 //for SD card
pm setInstallLocation 0 //for phone internal memory
You'll find after setting the install location to SD, you'll notice that more apps can be moved to the SD card manually instead of just being greyed-out. However, be careful though - personally, I wouldn't move the following to SD since they've affected performance:
- apps which use a widget on your home screen (music players, aggregators)
- apps which explicitly interact with the system (e.g. task managers, autokiller, autostarts)
- Google apps
Hope this helps.
Backup all user apps in batch mode using titanium backup pro. Saves to sdcard backup folder.
Or
Partition sdcard to ext3 or 4, 0 swap, and use a a2sd+ patch (if your ROM supports it). Backup data on the fat32 partition first, as it may get wiped when the partition is split to make the ext partition. All user apps and associated dalvik will be moved to the ext partition on boot. Just make sure the ext partition is not wiped / formatted prior to flashing ROM. Use pc software such as gparted or mini partition tool free. Been a few phones bricked using the wrong cwm version to partition.
But, if were me, just use Titanium Backup Pro.
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UpInTheAir said:
Backup all user apps in batch mode using titanium backup pro. Saves to sdcard backup folder.
Or
Partition sdcard to ext3 or 4, 0 swap, and use a a2sd+ patch (if your ROM supports it). Backup data on the fat32 partition first, as it may get wiped when the partition is split to make the ext partition. All user apps and associated dalvik will be moved to the ext partition on boot. Just make sure the ext partition is not wiped / formatted prior to flashing ROM. Use pc software such as gparted or mini partition tool free. Been a few phones bricked using the wrong cwm version to partition.
But, if were me, just use Titanium Backup Pro.
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Gparted wouldnt find my phone when plugged in when I tried.
Also when you just move to SD through settings>application, it doesnt move the whole app only half and when you install a new rom they arnt there
Gparted is Linux, mini partition tool for Windows.
A2sd+ moves apps to ext partition, not fat32 partition your referring to. A2sd or apps to SD move only to fat32 partition.
There's the difference between a2sd+ & a2sd.
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UpInTheAir said:
Gparted is Linux, mini partition tool for Windows.
A2sd+ moves apps to ext partition, not fat32 partition your referring to. A2sd or apps to SD move only to fat32 partition.
There's the difference between a2sd+ & a2sd.
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So to move the apps COMPLETELY on to the SD so they are there when you install a new rom and stuff, I partition my sd card in Ext 3/4 and then use a2sd+ to move them over right?
I'm on LeeDrOiD, and don't bother with the patch anymore.
But the method I used was, setup ext partition, flash ROM followed immediately by the a2sd+ patch for 1gb ext, then reboot. First boot will take a while.
Is useful if you stick to the same ROM, ...... as long as you don't wipe the ext partition before each update / build flash, or the ROM doesn't have a inbuilt script that wipes the ext. If that happened, you'd lose the apps and their dalvik cache, although the dalvik should be wiped anyway.
Edit: important, Forgot to mention, move all apps to "internal" memory prior. A2sd+ will take care of it on boot / flash and move all to ext. Any other app DL, just move to internal, and it'll be moved auto next boot.
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Delete, finger trouble.
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UpInTheAir said:
I'm on LeeDrOiD, and don't bother with the patch anymore.
But the method I used was, setup ext partition, flash ROM followed immediately by the a2sd+ patch for 1gb ext, then reboot. First boot will take a while.
Is useful if you stick to the same ROM, ...... as long as you don't wipe the ext partition before each update / build flash, or the ROM doesn't have a inbuilt script that wipes the ext. If that happened, you'd lose the apps and their dalvik cache, although the dalvik should be wiped anyway.
Edit: important, Forgot to mention, move all apps to "internal" memory prior. A2sd+ will take care of it on boot / flash and move all to ext. Any other app DL, just move to internal, and it'll be moved auto next boot.
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I got the partition set up and I installed the patch and the reboot took ages but how do I know if there on SD, I dont think they are because when I click on the app some still say move to sd?
Repsys7 said:
I got the partition set up and I installed the patch and the reboot took ages but how do I know if there on SD, I dont think they are because when I click on the app some still say move to sd?
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Open titanium backup, the first page that opens "overview", look down the bottom, will say something like;
Rom
Internal
Sdcard
A2sd+
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ok it says sd card (A2sd) 575mb 60.4 free, so I think that means the apps are on there, so if I wipe my phone the apps will stay right?
It will always say move to SD if installed in any other place. But the SD it refers to is the fat32 partition, not your ext. A2sd+ will take care of it and move all new apps to ext on boot, as long as you install to internal memory first.
After some market updates of apps installed to ext , you may have to move to internal and reboot to ensure they're on the ext
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Repsys7 said:
ok it says sd card (A2sd) 575mb 60.4 free, so I think that means the apps are on there, so if I wipe my phone the apps will stay right?
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Maybe a slightly bigger partition would have been better.
The apps should stay, as long as the ext is not wiped / formatted.
If apps not recognised in market, clear market cache, boot cwm, clear dalvik, boot, use titanium backup pro to restore market link if needed.
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UpInTheAir said:
Maybe a slightly bigger partition would have been better.
The apps should stay, as long as the ext is not wiped / formatted.
If apps not recognised in market, clear market cache, boot cwm, clear dalvik, boot, use titanium backup pro to restore market link if needed.
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I did the biggest one possible in Rom manager
Alright thanks for all your help mate!
Maybe your version, I have not done it since 1gb using cwm 2.5.1.3. But some newer versions had bricked phones. ROM manager is just an interface for cwm, so that's why its best to do it through pc. Should recognise the card through a sdcard adaptor
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Maybe your version, I have not done it since 1gb using cwm 2.5.1.3. But some newer versions had bricked phones. ROM manager is just an interface for cwm, so that's why its best to do it through pc. Should recognise the card through a sdcard adaptor
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Yeah but I use windows, and I'm having problems using Gparted live (it just wont let me partition my sd card) and using virtualbox I cant find my device in Ubuntu :S
Mini partition tool , free version for windows, maybe you missed it in an earlier post.
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Mini partition tool , free version for windows, maybe you missed it in an earlier post.
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Ahh stupid me haha, il try it out, thanks

[Q] Resize rocovery partition

If I resize my recovery partition on my HD2, is all data on my SD card lost? and would i have to reflash a new NAND ROM?
Repartitioning your internal memory will not affect the data on your sd card in any way.
Yes, you would have to flash a new ROM, or restore a backup.
so i take it the recovery partition clockwork uses it not on that sd card
which leads to my other question, if my rom requires a 169mb recovery and i use a 400mb recovery, will it work?
yes it will work, but you will waste 231mb of rom space. This is because you will set a system partition of 400mb, and load into it 169mb of files, BUT once the rom is running, all your user data, installed apps, etc get put into different partitions. Nothing will use the extra 231mb in the system partition, so it will be completely wasted and unuseable.
abdalla21 said:
so i take it the recovery partition clockwork uses it not on that sd card
which leads to my other question, if my rom requires a 169mb recovery and i use a 400mb recovery, will it work?
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is there any sense rom that will work on a 150mb recovery? if so please share the link
Very unlikely. Why not just change the size?
samsamuel said:
Very unlikely. Why not just change the size?
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bored on my help desk job, was gonna mess with my rom,but if im goin to resize i rather do it at home....lol
think im gonna try the bliss rom, any takes on it?
well you could always flash the rom, play with it, then when you get home, do a cwm backup, change the part size, reflash the rom, then in cwm do an advanced restore and just restore the sd-ext and data partitions. hey presto, system size changed and any settings you configure today will be restored into the new flash.
CAnt comment on the rom, i only use typhoon.
abdalla21 said:
so i take it the recovery partition clockwork uses it not on that sd card
which leads to my other question, if my rom requires a 169mb recovery and i use a 400mb recovery, will it work?
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CAUTION; the CWM partition make it is for the SD and it WILL ERASE ALL DATA ON SD , for partition internal memory u have to use other tools on a PC (my favorite its HD2 toolkit)
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Typhoon has a nice stable sense rom.?
Send me a link
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Typhoon is a cm7 rom. Cm7 roms don't have sense.
I CAN highly recommend it, though. I've been on an older version typhoon for over a month now, and the only bug is the occasional failed video capture. Annoying, but doesn't happen often.

Ext partiton not working

How can i force my phone to install everything to ext partition?
I have ext3 partition and Im running newest miui.us rom.
Also,when i open app2sdgui it just closes after black screen.
Pls help me vouse im constantly seeing that low on space warning.
I allready moved all the apps I could to sd,but still i have less then 10 mb left..
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I allready moved all the apps I could to sd,
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if you mean by choosing settings - app settings - manage apps and choosing to move an app to sd card, thats not how ext works, what that does is takes it FROM the ext partition and puts it in the FAT partition.
The apps should all be set to use internal memory, and the system will put them in the ext partition without you doing anything.
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if you mean by choosing settings - app settings - manage apps and choosing to move an app to sd card, thats not how ext works, what that does is takes it FROM the ext partition and puts it in the FAT partition.
The apps should all be set to use internal memory, and the system will put them in the ext partition without you doing anything.
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I know how ext works,but i dont know why is it not working..
How can i fix this,should i wipe all and reinstall rom and all the apps again?
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I advise installing Link2SD, I had a similar problem and this program fixed it for me.
Just mount the storage space and then you will be able to create link (that means moving the app to ext partition).
Hope it helps.
i haven't used miui so i can only comment on cm7 roms with a2sd+.
Did you create teh ext yourself? because i have read that if the ext and fat are not in the correct order (i cant remember which should be first, which second), if they arent the correct way around the system wont see the ext.
Have you used an android browser to look at the contents of teh ext? is it REALLY empty?
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i haven't used miui so i can only comment on cm7 roms with a2sd+.
Did you create teh ext yourself? because i have read that if the ext and fat are not in the correct order (i cant remember which should be first, which second), if they arent the correct way around the system wont see the ext.
Have you used an android browser to look at the contents of teh ext? is it REALLY empty?
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No,he puts something on ext and something on internal ..
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matoflash said:
I advise installing Link2SD, I had a similar problem and this program fixed it for me.
Just mount the storage space and then you will be able to create link (that means moving the app to ext partition).
Hope it helps.
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Not working...
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one other thing is that the internal memory will go down when you instal something, but REALLY the app has gone to EXT, and the internal free memory will go back up after a reboot. Its a free memory display bug. The system just assumes it has used the space up without checking it until after a reboot.
So you install a 20mb app, the internal memory drops 20mb, but after a reboot has gone back up 20mb.
Just a thought.
If you partition your sd card in GPartEd, your FAT32 partition should be first (on the left) followed by your ext3 partition.
Or you could use CWM or even ROM Manager (I think, not 100% sure about ROM Manager) to partition your card.
Try flashing this in CWM Recovery:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=749299&d=1318560772
And then when you reboot, go into your terminal emulator app and type:
su (press enter)
a2sd reinstall (press enter)
It should then say a bunch of stuff, and then your phone will reboot and take a long time to boot back up, because it is moving all your apps to your ext3 partition.
I would really recommend using gparted to partition your card, it's very reliable, gives you the most control over what you're doing, and you can download an iso to make a bootable cd of it if you don't use Linux. Google 'GParted Live CD'. (But why wouldn't you use Linux???)
Do a CWM NanDroid backup before you do any of this, in case your rom is not A2SD compatible and it screws something up. Then you'll be able to revert back to your present state. I can't stress the CWM backup enough, especially because I'm not sure if MIUI roms are A2SD compatible or not. Either way, I think it's worth a shot.
Back your sd card up to your computer before partitioning it, as it will wipe everything from it.
So,I did this: Wiped all and installed rom again,app2sd gui now working (apps are on sd) but i still have a little space left. Only installed apps I really need and i have less then 30% available.
I even linked all apps I could with link2sd app.
I dont know,I will try to reboot now and see if something happened.
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imported0 said:
So,I did this: Wiped all and installed rom again,app2sd gui now working (apps are on sd) but i still have a little space left. Only installed apps I really need and i have less then 30% available.
I even linked all apps I could with link2sd app.
I dont know,I will try to reboot now and see if something happened.
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You only have a little space left on internal memory or in your ext partition?
You have a EURO HD2, so you're not gonna have a bunch of internal memory no matter what. Your ext won't show up in Settings/Storage/SD Card.
In order to see how much ext space you have left, look in the A2SD GUI app.
How much space is left in each of those? (ext and internal)
If you are using the A2SD that I linked in my previous post, you won't have to use the link2sd app.
It creates the symlinks to the sd ext partition on its own.
How big of an ext partition did you put on your sd card?
huggs said:
You only have a little space left on internal memory or in your ext partition?
You have a EURO HD2, so you're not gonna have a bunch of internal memory no matter what. Your ext won't show up in Settings/Storage/SD Card.
In order to see how much ext space you have left, look in the A2SD GUI app.
How much space is left in each of those? (ext and internal)
If you are using the A2SD that I linked in my previous post, you won't have to use the link2sd app.
It creates the symlinks to the sd ext partition on its own.
How big of an ext partition did you put on your sd card?
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Memory free:
Internal: 32MB
Ext:786MB
its 1024 partition..
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what system partition size have you flashed?
what size partition does the rom (you still havent linked to teh rom you flashed so we cant look ourselves) say you need?
because that doesn't count towards internal space, so for example if your rom requires a 150 meg system partition, and you flash a 250meg system partition, you will lose the extra 100mb. you wont be able to use it for apps or data, it will be dead space.
huggs said:
If you partition your sd card in GPartEd, your FAT32 partition should be first (on the left) followed by your ext3 partition.
Or you could use CWM or even ROM Manager (I think, not 100% sure about ROM Manager) to partition your card.
Try flashing this in CWM Recovery:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=749299&d=1318560772
And then when you reboot, go into your terminal emulator app and type:
su (press enter)
a2sd reinstall (press enter)
It should then say a bunch of stuff, and then your phone will reboot and take a long time to boot back up, because it is moving all your apps to your ext3 partition.
I would really recommend using gparted to partition your card, it's very reliable, gives you the most control over what you're doing, and you can download an iso to make a bootable cd of it if you don't use Linux. Google 'GParted Live CD'. (But why wouldn't you use Linux???)
Do a CWM NanDroid backup before you do any of this, in case your rom is not A2SD compatible and it screws something up. Then you'll be able to revert back to your present state. I can't stress the CWM backup enough, especially because I'm not sure if MIUI roms are A2SD compatible or not. Either way, I think it's worth a shot.
Back your sd card up to your computer before partitioning it, as it will wipe everything from it.
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Did what u said here,but same results,35MB internal free memory..
Is this normal for eu model? I remember I had 100MB free on cm7 roms...
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samsamuel said:
what system partition size have you flashed?
what size partition does the rom (you still havent linked to teh rom you flashed so we cant look ourselves) say you need?
because that doesn't count towards internal space, so for example if your rom requires a 150 meg system partition, and you flash a 250meg system partition, you will lose the extra 100mb. you wont be able to use it for apps or data, it will be dead space.
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I dont know what rom requires,I have miui.us rom,and 150 mb cwm partition.
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hmm its a 90 meg download, so 150 system should be ample. do you have masses of text messages stored? (i know some people have thousands, never delete any, , , weird) or tens of hundreds of contacts that could be filling up the data partition? (your systems 'internal storage' figure is based only on the data partition)
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hmm its a 90 meg download, so 150 system should be ample. do you have masses of text messages stored? (i know some people have thousands, never delete any, , , weird) or tens of hundreds of contacts that could be filling up the data partition? (your systems 'internal storage' figure is based only on the data partition)
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I have more than 1000 contacts synced from facebook.But I dont think thats the issue,I think it is something with the rom..
This is the rom Im using..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1117787
I read everything and still cant figure out what did I do wrong.
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i dont have my phone handy to compare, but what id do next would be go into cwm and do a backup, then reboot into android, and browse to the backup folder and take a look at the size of the data image, which will give you a rough idea on its size.
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i dont have my phone handy to compare, but what id do next would be go into cwm and do a backup, then reboot into android, and browse to the backup folder and take a look at the size of the data image, which will give you a rough idea on its size.
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Idk what u talkin about lol
Edit:Im gonna sell this damn phone and buy something with more internal memory
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samsamuel said:
i dont have my phone handy to compare, but what id do next would be go into cwm and do a backup, then reboot into android, and browse to the backup folder and take a look at the size of the data image, which will give you a rough idea on its size.
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Canu take a look at that thread.. Maybe I missed something :/
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[Q] System partition

Hello everyone! Yesterday, I tried to flash the new ICS CM9 and I did it. It is laggy and I can t install GAPPS.Then i saw that my system partition is 160 mb instead of 215 (recommended).
So, how can I change my system partition from 160 to 215 ? (I tried some TPT Gen2 tutorials, but nothing).
Thanks!
stanangel said:
Hello everyone! Yesterday, I tried to flash the new ICS CM9 and I did it. It is laggy and I can t install GAPPS.Then i saw that my system partition is 160 mb instead of 215 (recommended).
So, how can I change my system partition from 160 to 215 ? (I tried some TPT Gen2 tutorials, but nothing).
Thanks!
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ok first go to market and download tpt helper.
then choose make your own tpt fill chache as 20 mb system(dont make it less it is recommended to use 20 mb on ics) as 210 mb(or as per ur choice but not less) and rest will be system.then click ok.
it will download the tpt and edit it accordingly.then check it it should have from the app there should be 10/12 matches.
then reboot.
press menu+power+vol up then green text fill flash and tpt will start on its own.
if there is a error at 99% down worry wait and then it will be success.
u r done.
just remember to have a rom on your sd.
there will be other options like choosing splash screen, recovery etc choose accordingly in the app.
u can even use your nandroids.
remember to delete image folder from sd after flash to prevent flashes by mistakes.
u r done enjoy
thanks saaransh9 i also want this info, voted up
sorry, but my number of matches is 1/1 .It is all right?
stanangel said:
sorry, but my number of matches is 1/1 .It is all right?
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When u set your partitions does it says finished if yes then it should be ok.
Or just TPT with the 220mb system partition version, reinstall your rom and you're done
Rastaman2302 said:
Or just TPT with the 220mb system partition version, reinstall your rom and you're done
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yes u can do that but the stock has 20 or 30 mb oem space which is a waste instead i get 210 mb system 210 data and 20 mb cache when i made my own tpt
How to check system partition???
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How to check system partition???
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You can use this.
Hi to all, I am new at all this android stuff, so I hope you won't laught, but I have few questions.
1.Is there a way to change size of partitions without flashing new rom?
2.How big the partitions should be (System, Data, Cache) ?
According to "Blade Checker" I have European ZTE Blade 512MB, Gen2 phone, also it said that I have to use image.bin style TPTs.
Curent partitions are:
System 220MB
Data 160MB
Cache 37MB
It is running CM 7.1 stable mod and Clockwork Mod Recovery 5.0.2.0
Thanks in advance, and I am sorry if I posted at a wrong place.
ZeChe said:
Hi to all, I am new at all this android stuff, so I hope you won't laught, but I have few questions.
1.Is there a way to change size of partitions without flashing new rom?
2.How big the partitions should be (System, Data, Cache) ?
According to "Blade Checker" I have European ZTE Blade 512MB, Gen2 phone, also it said that I have to use image.bin style TPTs.
Curent partitions are:
System 220MB
Data 160MB
Cache 37MB
It is running CM 7.1 stable mod and Clockwork Mod Recovery 5.0.2.0
Thanks in advance, and I am sorry if I posted at a wrong place.
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1. No,you cannot.
2.Your partition size is more than enough for any new ROM's. Minimum System partition size varies accordings to different ROM's. Minimum data is according to your needs for app storage. Minimum cache is 20mb,but keep in mind you can't download anything from market/play over 20mb. So cache decides your temporary market storage.
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I have only 20-25Mb left on data partition, that's what bugs me.
Was thinking maybe to increase Data prtition or maybe install 4GB class 10 sd card I have and try to make EXT partition on it, 2GB I have now seems a bit slow for that.
Would one of thos things help?
Thanks.
ZeChe said:
I have only 20-25Mb left on data partition, that's what bugs me.
Was thinking maybe to increase Data prtition or maybe install 4GB class 10 sd card I have and try to make EXT partition on it, 2GB I have now seems a bit slow for that.
Would one of thos things help?
Thanks.
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You better get a 4 or 8 Gig card. Class 4 should do actually.
You've tried A2SD right?
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karthiknr said:
You better get a 4 or 8 Gig card. Class 4 should do actually.
You've tried A2SD right?
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No, actually I didn't tried A2SD, I think, I am using App 2 SD, free version, but I assume that's not the same, also I think that my card has only one partition.
As I said, am new to all of this.
Sorry for bothering you and I really appreciate the help.
Thanks, again.
ZeChe said:
No, actually I didn't tried A2SD, I think, I am using App 2 SD, free version, but I assume that's not the same, also I think that my card has only one partition.
As I said, am new to all of this.
Sorry for bothering you and I really appreciate the help.
Thanks, again.
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A2SD gives u lots of space. I have a 4 gig SD card with a 1 gig partition and I've 300 apps installed
Here's how u do it
-backup ur SD card
-boot into recovery
-select advanced
-partition SD card
-select size. recommended 1gb
-select swap size as 0. Select 32 if u use it for gaming
-reboot
-install s2e
-check all four boxes
-reboot
-start installing apps
(Tested with gingerbread roms)
ZeChe said:
Hi to all, I am new at all this android stuff, so I hope you won't laught, but I have few questions.
1.Is there a way to change size of partitions without flashing new rom?
2.How big the partitions should be (System, Data, Cache) ?
According to "Blade Checker" I have European ZTE Blade 512MB, Gen2 phone, also it said that I have to use image.bin style TPTs.
Curent partitions are:
System 220MB
Data 160MB
Cache 37MB
It is running CM 7.1 stable mod and Clockwork Mod Recovery 5.0.2.0
Thanks in advance, and I am sorry if I posted at a wrong place.
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If you changed your partition sizes, your rom and all your data would be wiped. If you made a backup before, you could restore it afterwards as long as it could fit in the new sizes (eg. if your rom took up 160MB in system just now, and you changed system to 170MB then it would fit so you could restore it, same for other partitions).
Size for the partitions depends on what rom you are wanting to install. Some like Swedish Snow can fit in 128MB system, others like the ICS ones need ~180MB or bigger.
As your current layout is big enough for any rom out now, you'd be better making an ext partition on your phone and using that. S2E from Google Play works well with CM7 and lets you move most, if not everything, on the data partition to the ext partition. Its usually best just to move apps, but it means you can have loads of space. You can choose the size of ext partition depending on how big your sdcard is and how much space you need.
karthiknr said:
2.Your partition size is more than enough for any new ROM's. Minimum System partition size varies accordings to different ROM's. Minimum data is according to your needs for app storage. Minimum cache is 20mb,but keep in mind you can't download anything from market/play over 20mb. So cache decides your temporary market storage.
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2MB is the minimum for cache. You can redirect the market downloads to data/ext partition/somewhere else, so you can download any app you like. Most roms do this automatically if your cache partition is small. By making it bigger than 2MB, you are either wasting the extra space if its still small enough to be redirected, or you are restricting the size of apps you can download if its too big to be redirected.
Amphoras said:
If you changed your partition sizes, your rom and all your data would be wiped. If you made a backup before, you could restore it afterwards as long as it could fit in the new sizes (eg. if your rom took up 160MB in system just now, and you changed system to 170MB then it would fit so you could restore it, same for other partitions).
Size for the partitions depends on what rom you are wanting to install. Some like Swedish Snow can fit in 128MB system, others like the ICS ones need ~180MB or bigger.
As your current layout is big enough for any rom out now, you'd be better making an ext partition on your phone and using that. S2E from Google Play works well with CM7 and lets you move most, if not everything, on the data partition to the ext partition. Its usually best just to move apps, but it means you can have loads of space. You can choose the size of ext partition depending on how big your sdcard is and how much space you need.
2MB is the minimum for cache. You can redirect the market downloads to data/ext partition/somewhere else, so you can download any app you like. Most roms do this automatically if your cache partition is small. By making it bigger than 2MB, you are either wasting the extra space if its still small enough to be redirected, or you are restricting the size of apps you can download if its too big to be redirected.
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I stated 20mb as minimum because Tilal recommended 20mb for ColdFusion and I would rather change partition sizes once than doing it repeatedly.
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Well, I did few things.
I did what QuantumFoam suggested, partitioned my old 2GB card that was already in phone, created EXt partition of 512MB, to try if it work. I'we made backup on PC, but when I rebooted few of apps I had on sd desapeared, also all my music, pictures, wallpapers and other stuff.
Question I have now is should I copy all the things from PC back to SD and where.
Thanks all of you guys for helping me and having so much patience with me.
karthiknr said:
I stated 20mb as minimum because Tilal recommended 20mb for ColdFusion and I would rather change partition sizes once than doing it repeatedly.
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That's because ColdFusion didn't have the redirect script added yet. If you add that, then 2MB is fine for it as well.
ZeChe said:
Well, I did few things.
I did what QuantumFoam suggested, partitioned my old 2GB card that was already in phone, created EXt partition of 512MB, to try if it work. I'we made backup on PC, but when I rebooted few of apps I had on sd desapeared, also all my music, pictures, wallpapers and other stuff.
Question I have now is should I copy all the things from PC back to SD and where.
Thanks all of you guys for helping me and having so much patience with me.
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I think creating the ext partition formats the whole card. If you plug your phone into your pc and turn on usb storage, you should see it appear with ~1.5GB space. You can copy all the stuff back onto there and it should work again. You might have to reinstall the apps that were moved to the sdcard, don't know if just copying them back will work.
Amphoras said:
I think creating the ext partition formats the whole card. If you plug your phone into your pc and turn on usb storage, you should see it appear with ~1.5GB space. You can copy all the stuff back onto there and it should work again. You might have to reinstall the apps that were moved to the sdcard, don't know if just copying them back will work.
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I did that, reinstalled few apps and it works, thx.
Have one more question, if you all don't mind
I know that these questions sound stupid, but as I said, I'm new to all of this and have a strong will to learn.
Is it possible to switch this card with bigger one I have, without flashing ROM again?
If it is, I would apritiate If someone could point me to some guide, because I presume it is not easy task and I think I bothered you enought already.
If it isn't possible, can I then format new card on my PC,copy ROM on it, partition it from CM recovery and then install ROM and all of the apps?
Thx again

Does flashing a ROM normally wipe not only system but also data and sdcard?

I just tried a ROM for the first time on my Nexus 7 (though I've used a lot on my past phones) and holy ****, coming from a non-Nexus device, I wasn't expect this, it wiped out my internal storage partition (/sdcard) as well as my data partition.
Losing the international storage partition is really painful, as that's where all my clockworkmod backups were.
Does this happen every time a ROM is flashed on a Nexus 7? (In case it makes a difference, this is the ROM I flashed.) Does this happen every time an update to a ROM is flashed?
For future reference, is there any way to try ROMs and flash updates without wiping out my whole internal storage?
Do you have a 3G?
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over the air system updates shouldn't delete any data but as far as I know flashing a different rom will wipe everything. With a phone the data is stored on a separate physical device such as a microsd card but with the nexus 7 its all held on the internal memory. You could use an otg cable and thumb drive as external storage for backup purposes.
dparrothead1 said:
Do you have a 3G?
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Yeah, I have a 3G.
corumuk said:
over the air system updates shouldn't delete any data but as far as I know flashing a different rom will wipe everything. With a phone the data is stored on a separate physical device such as a microsd card but with the nexus 7 its all held on the internal memory. You could use an otg cable and thumb drive as external storage for backup purposes.
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So what do people normally do when an update to a ROM comes out? Do they fully backup everything and then do an advanced restore in CWM to get back their data? Or are most people starting fresh on every ROM update?
corumuk said:
over the air system updates shouldn't delete any data but as far as I know flashing a different rom will wipe everything. With a phone the data is stored on a separate physical device such as a microsd card but with the nexus 7 its all held on the internal memory. You could use an otg cable and thumb drive as external storage for backup purposes.
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What?
A rom shouldn't wipe the Emmc (internal sdcard), coming from Samsung phones that all have 16gb of internal storage plus a slot for an external card, i have never had it wipe my storage. Either internal or external.
I have also flashed a few roms on the Nexus and the ONLY thing that wiped my storage was unlocking the bootloader.
Looks to me like you were answered in the ROM Thread that you referenced.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35322271
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Based on my experience with the original Droid, flashing a new rom usually calls for wiping system, cache, data, boot, and dalvik. Internal memory data is deleted, but external microsd storage is not cleared. The N7 only has internal memory, and that is cleared when doing the wipes prior to installing a new rom. You should copy pictures, video, documents, downloads, music, saved texts, etc. to a pc or OTG storage along with the backups before the new rom.
Wiping system and data in recovery does not touch /sdcard. sdcard should remain intact unless flashing a factory image.
regalpimpin said:
Wiping system and data in recovery does not touch /sdcard. sdcard should remain intact unless flashing a factory image.
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This.
If you want to be completely and absolutely sure it will not delete anything, open the zip go to:
META-INF/com/Google/android and open up the updater-script file in a text editor, look through and you will see every command that is given in the flash.
You will most likely only see it format the /system partition. Which is why you manually have to do a factory reset in recovery, which formats
/data (where your user apps and preferences are stored, as well as the dalvik cache is)
/cache
And the android secure file which is in fact located on the Emmc, but that is the only file on that partition it touches.
Thanks all, turns out the line that killed me was in the instructions for the ROM I flashed, the flash instruction was:
fastboot -w flash system system.img
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That -w flag is what wiped my internal storage.
manekineko said:
Thanks all, turns out the line that killed me was in the instructions for the ROM I flashed, the flash instruction was:
That -w flag is what wiped my internal storage.
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So what did you do with that ?
manekineko said:
Thanks all, turns out the line that killed me was in the instructions for the ROM I flashed, the flash instruction was:
That -w flag is what wiped my internal storage.
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@manekineko @studacris Can you please elaborate, what do you mean by that ? I am intending to flash a different ROM on a different device.I extracted the firmware zip and checked every file but couldn't find "wipe (-w) in fastboot with system.img".
Thank you

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