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[Q]A2SD on CM6.1 RC2

may i knoe does it support a2sd on cm6.1 rc 2 ? If Yes, How do i have/install it ? Where can i found the file ? Thx in advance.

Milx said:
may i knoe does it support a2sd on cm6.1 rc 2 ? If Yes, How do i have/install it ? Where can i found the file ? Thx in advance.
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You don't need it. CM 6.1 supports installing apps to the SD natively. No need to worry about a2sd.

tpbklake said:
You don't need it. CM 6.1 supports installing apps to the SD natively. No need to worry about a2sd.
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How do i do that ? after install move the app to sd from the app managment ?

Milx said:
How do i do that ? after install move the app to sd from the app managment ?
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Yes, that is how I do it. You can also set the default location to SD for new apps that you load.

tpbklake said:
Yes, that is how I do it. You can also set the default location to SD for new apps that you load.
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Correct me if im wrong, but isnt the dalvik cache still set to be stored on the internal memory by default, and using a2sd(which is what I do) the only way to move it to the sd card.
After every flash, I reinstall a2sd from clockwork, then load the build of CM6 I just updated, then go to terminal and run:
su -> a2sd cachesd(then phone reboots and the dalvik cache flag is signaled to be stored on sdext instead of internal storage.
and then to be safe I usually run "a2sd repair".
Is there an easier, more reliable, stable, blah blah way of moving dalvik to sd, and ensure all installed apps are stored on sd instead of internally? Right now i have about 70 apps installed, and have 166mb free internal memory left. And everything is very fast and snappy. I have no problems using a2sd. it seems to be working perfectly for me.
So could someone tell me if there is a better way of achieving what I am already achieving, without using a2sd? Thanks

Script said:
Correct me if im wrong, but isnt the dalvik cache still set to be stored on the internal memory by default, and using a2sd(which is what I do) the only way to move it to the sd card.
After every flash, I reinstall a2sd from clockwork, then load the build of CM6 I just updated, then go to terminal and run:
su -> a2sd cachesd(then phone reboots and the dalvik cache flag is signaled to be stored on sdext instead of internal storage.
and then to be safe I usually run "a2sd repair".
Is there an easier, more reliable, stable, blah blah way of moving dalvik to sd, and ensure all installed apps are stored on sd instead of internally? Right now i have about 70 apps installed, and have 166mb free internal memory left. And everything is very fast and snappy. I have no problems using a2sd. it seems to be working perfectly for me.
So could someone tell me if there is a better way of achieving what I am already achieving, without using a2sd? Thanks
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I tried to find the a2sd but could not find it, would u be kind to guide me to it =)

Do any of the ROMS offer more free flash storage than the stock ROM?

I am in a frustrating battle trying to keep space free on my phone. I am to the point of deleting apps I really would not want to if I had the space available. So my question is, do any of the ROMS offer more app install space?
And FWIW, I have done apps2sd, cleared all the caches I can clear, and everything else people suggest to do. Thanks for any help!

Not an answer to your question but out of curiosity what apps are you using on a daily basis? I find that my "core" apps that I need plus an extra app here and there all install usually leave me with about 30MB free space. of course at this point i'm not using a lot and I don't have many games installed(just monopoly). I'm using cyanogenmod 6.1

tlogank said:
I am in a frustrating battle trying to keep space free on my phone. I am to the point of deleting apps I really would not want to if I had the space available. So my question is, do any of the ROMS offer more app install space?
And FWIW, I have done apps2sd, cleared all the caches I can clear, and everything else people suggest to do. Thanks for any help!
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When you say you have done app2sd, so you mean stock Froyo or app2ext?
If you are having this issue with app2ext, then you need to make a larger ext part.
You can also move your Dalvik-Cache to /cache or /sdcard, but only if you have ext part for the /sdcard move to work.

You need to change the partition table (by flashing a custom HBOOT) to get more space on /data, and as far as I know, no-one has done it.

Use good old Apps2EXT aka Apps2SD+ aka DarkTremor's Apps2SD. Read the Wiki to find the link, or just go to Development section and look there. Partition your SD card, make 512MB or larger EXT data partition, and you're done for all the foreseeable future.
How could you avoid reading about it and read all the rest - escapes me.

givathugahug said:
Not an answer to your question but out of curiosity what apps are you using on a daily basis? I find that my "core" apps that I need plus an extra app here and there all install usually leave me with about 30MB free space. of course at this point i'm not using a lot and I don't have many games installed(just monopoly). I'm using cyanogenmod 6.1
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Here are the top-10 space-hogging apps I have (and some of them are partially moved to /sdcard!):
Google Maps: 10.13 MB
Rock Player: 8.80 MB
SlingPlayer Mobile: 8.64 MB
Facebook: 7.40 MB
Adobe Flash Player: 7.09 MB
Twitter: 5.08 MB
Google Voice Search: 4.44 MB
Google Voice: 3.78 MB
Skyfire: 3.34 MB
Google Goggles: 2.60 MB
That's 61.3 MB in 10 apps alone...

I have 200MB in apps alone, not counting their data or Dalvik cache (together they come up to 380MB). It's not about having "core" apps and "rare" apps, it's about having the apps that I want to use. Some of them I use often, some of them I use rarely, but I don't have apps that I never use.

I am in a Similar situation, using DarkTremors Apps2sd. I havent done cache2sd because i am using a class 2 sd card, and have been advised against it.
I set up a 512mb partition, and have moved all my apps away from apps2fat, but max free space i get is about 32mb, after clearing the cache of both my browsers.

Check the size of your Dalvik cache, and do Dalvik2cache if it's under 80MB.
I have Class2 16GB SD card and I ran out of space on /cache, so I moved Dalvik to SD and didn't notice any performance hits.

liam.lah said:
I am in a Similar situation, using DarkTremors Apps2sd. I havent done cache2sd because i am using a class 2 sd card, and have been advised against it.
I set up a 512mb partition, and have moved all my apps away from apps2fat, but max free space i get is about 32mb, after clearing the cache of both my browsers.
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I'm in the same boat...
I have about 32m free with Darktremors, which is actually less than if I move apps to SD using Titanium.
Might try moving dalkiv.
How do I check the size?
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App

efrant said:
Here are the top-10 space-hogging apps I have (and some of them are partially moved to /sdcard!):
Google Maps: 10.13 MB
Rock Player: 8.80 MB
SlingPlayer Mobile: 8.64 MB
Facebook: 7.40 MB
Adobe Flash Player: 7.09 MB
Twitter: 5.08 MB
Google Voice Search: 4.44 MB
Google Voice: 3.78 MB
Skyfire: 3.34 MB
Google Goggles: 2.60 MB
That's 61.3 MB in 10 apps alone...
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One way to get a bit of space back is to move the updated ROM apps to the /system/app partition, replacing the older versions and deleting the new versions out of /data/app. I've done that with Maps, Voice, Goggles, and YouTube. You should be able to do it with Twitter and Facebook as well--I don't use them and so just removed them from the ROM altogether. You can find details on doing this via a Google search, though I could post my procedure in this thread if anyone's interested.

highvista said:
though I could post my procedure in this thread if anyone's interested.
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Sound's cool...do post your steps & what filemanager your using.

Jack_R1 said:
Check the size of your Dalvik cache, and do Dalvik2cache if it's under 80MB.
I have Class2 16GB SD card and I ran out of space on /cache, so I moved Dalvik to SD and didn't notice any performance hits.
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Be VERY careful when moving your Dalvik-Cache to /cache. It's only 90MB and not used if you are running a custom ROM. The /cache partition is only there to stage OTA's from Google. If you are running custom recovery, it won't be used.
Anyway, I would HIGHLY suggest you get yourself a Class 6 Card or better and move it to SD. It will free up a TON more space and stretch out your love of your N1.

I'm running CM, and it looks like the cache also stages apps downloaded from the market...
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danger-rat said:
I'm running CM, and it looks like the cache also stages apps downloaded from the market...
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Well that's stupid.
Oh well, guess /cache is not a very good idea after all.

Just what it looks like. I downloaded 4 apps today, and cache has 4 download.apk type files with today's date...
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Yeah....I had space issues until I moved Dalvik to SD, freed over 80mb space. But if I remember right, I had some issues when doing this and had to wipe and do a fresh install, move dalvik and apps, then restore. Or maybe that was when I tried dalvik to cache.....which would explain why it was bad.

galaxys said:
Sound's cool...do post your steps & what filemanager your using.
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I've been doing it with an Orange San Francisco this morning, it's easy, just use busybox to cp the .apk files from /data/app to /system/app, the ones in /data/app were automatically removed by the OS.

Yeah, why the hell do you have so much of that those apps in /data/apps when you could just put them in /system/apps which is a different storage.
I could put Facebook there too but i only install about 7-10apps on my phone. Angry Birds being the biggest but that's on the SD card (Froyo A2SD). After all my apps i probably have 170MB free in the DATA. Granted i'm not installing 60apps like some people here but i'm sure if you put Facebook and Google Maps in the system (along with twitter and all that other stuff that come included in the GAPPS zip file) then you'd have more free space. After a clean install i usually have 196MB free to start from.

Rusty! said:
I've been doing it with an Orange San Francisco this morning, it's easy, just use busybox to cp the .apk files from /data/app to /system/app, the ones in /data/app were automatically removed by the OS.
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So you're not doing anything fancy, just copy the apk's? They are named exactly the same, etc?
I'm going to try this too.. Gonna visit the ole nandroid first though.
derp, wait, this doesn't even matter if you're using Apps2Ext right? Not going to save any space in /data in that case.
BTW, this isn't exactly pretty, but I was having some serious /data space issues since installing Dungeon Hunter.. 6.5m library in /data/data/*gameloft*/lib, so I mkdir /system/sd/gameloft and moved/symlinked the lib. Works great. I have a few other libs in /data/data that I could do, but for now this gets me back to 25M free.
Still fighting moving dalvik to SD but I imagine I'll be doing that eventually.

[Q] Internel memory keeps decreasing

I have not installed any apps to my phones internel memory. I use titanium to move all apps except for keyboad, live wallpapers, widgets to the phone sdcard. 2 days ago I had 213mb of internel memory, now I am at 103mb of internel mrmory and I have no idea why. I tried deleting dalvik cache (dont think there is a way to move dalvik to sdcard with stock rom/kernel) and it didnt change much. Does anyone have any ideas where the memory leak is or what apps that even though are installed to the sdcard may be using up internel memory? Thank you
Saw the Dalvik2Cache.zip and that didnt do much, then saw the Dalvik_Hack under page 3 of the same thread and that seems to have made a lot more internel memory, I will keep an eye out on it and see if this is just a temporary fix or maybe its a permanent fix. It may just have been all the dalvik cache taking up space but over 100mb in 2-3 days seems like a lot of cache.
Here is the thread I followed, post # 24 by FrAsErTaG with the "CONFIRMED WORKING: http://www.mediafire.com/?3yfj8t8ld5yjez9

jgregoryj1 said:
I have not installed any apps to my phones internel memory. I use titanium to move all apps except for keyboad, live wallpapers, widgets to the phone sdcard. 2 days ago I had 213mb of internel memory, now I am at 103mb of internel mrmory and I have no idea why. I tried deleting dalvik cache (dont think there is a way to move dalvik to sdcard with stock rom/kernel) and it didnt change much. Does anyone have any ideas where the memory leak is or what apps that even though are installed to the sdcard may be using up internel memory? Thank you
Saw the Dalvik2Cache.zip and that didnt do much, then saw the Dalvik_Hack under page 3 of the same thread and that seems to have made a lot more internel memory, I will keep an eye out on it and see if this is just a temporary fix or maybe its a permanent fix. It may just have been all the dalvik cache taking up space but over 100mb in 2-3 days seems like a lot of cache.
Here is the thread I followed, post # 24 by FrAsErTaG with the "CONFIRMED WORKING: http://www.mediafire.com/?3yfj8t8ld5yjez9
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It will most probably be the dalvik cache, .dex files can be anything up to 1-2mb+ for each app. IMO dalvik2cache is a bad idea, on the latest FW the /cache partition has been reduced to 100mb, fill that up and you will be unable to download from the market. You should try link2sd, it will work on any rooted phone with stock kernel. (as long as you make the 2nd partition fat.) And it will move the app, library and .dex files to your 2nd partition and it will mount the 2nd patition on boot so keyboards/widgets are unaffected. I have 350+ apps installed on my phone and thanks to link2sd i still have 235mb free and phone is fast as hell

Thats cool. My old phone I had the sdcard partitioned with an EXT3, I would love to do that with this phone but dont think its supported yet. I may be wrong but I have not found anything like that for the Verizon R800x. Do you know if there is a way to remove the dalvik2cache hack if I wanted to revert it back to internel memory?

jgregoryj1 said:
Thats cool. My old phone I had the sdcard partitioned with an EXT3, I would love to do that with this phone but dont think its supported yet. I may be wrong but I have not found anything like that for the Verizon R800x. Do you know if there is a way to remove the dalvik2cache hack if I wanted to revert it back to internel memory?
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It will work on any android as long as your rooted. You need to make the 2nd partition fat though not ext2/3/4 as fat has native support so no custom kernel is needed. It calls to install-recovey.sh not init.d too so you can use stock kernel To remove dalvik2cache, unzip the zip you flashed look at the files in the .zip and delete the corresponding ones on your device

Thank you, I will do that, look through the .zip and delete the files. I already downloaded and installed the Link2sd. I am all about getting more memory out of the pathetic 400mb SE put in place, don't know why the hell they didnt just give us at least 2gb. But whatever still love the phone even with the limitation. Anyway what I ws going to say was I all for gaining memory ut not ifi ts going to make my phone crash some time down the road.

[Q]Any help for My best HD2 ROM Ever tested ???

This is the best HD2 ROM I've ever tested but only missing 1 thing... space
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1022108
The Amazing Qaliza incredible S V2.... It have all the requirments for day to day use as speed, stable and even looks gr8
Is there any way I can increase the internal space as I get only 81 MB after install wich is not enough for my day to day used apps....
Any help would be thankfull

Use an ext partition, as per post 1.

1st of all thx for the reply
In fact that's what I've did.. but the thing is in post 1 it's mentioned for the V4 ROM which is Data2sd while this ROM is built on app2sd.. and this is the problem...
So any Ideas????

Ap2sd and data2sd both use the same ext.
also, you are aware that the system wont include the ext value when you view available storage, right? But it will use it as internal storage.
So say you have 80mb free plus a 1gb ext partition, your available storage shows as 80mb, but really its 1104mb.
Third party apps like titanium WILL include the ext value.

the thing is that it's included and this is 4 sure... but I really can't install any new apps as it says you are running out of storage... and this is the problem.
In titanium backup I have the storage reading like this :
System ROM:325 MB (3.28 MB Free)
Internal :95.6 MB(12.1 MB Free) - and this is the problem
SD card: :2.90 GB(148 MB Free)
SD card a2sd:1.00 GB (808 MB Free) which I can't do any thing with them
So this is the problem in easy way.... Any help, Plzzzzzzzzzzz
I've tested alot and alot of ROM's but I think this is the most stable, smooth, fast and even all features working in excellent Condition such as camcorder, vedio playing and all the stuff you need in day to day.
So if you could suggest another ROM that functions as good as this one it would be gr8 to have it but the thing is that it should support Arabic language as well.
Sorry for the long reply but just wanted to clear my point of view and my request

mlova said:
SD card a2sd:1.00 GB (808 MB Free) which I can't do any thing with them
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Most of your apps downloaded from market will be installed there. So...what did you mean with "which I can't do any thing with them"?

as post above, and also, could it be that the 200mb used in your sd-ext partition is left over from an old rom?
To wipe the sd-ext, go into cwm and run a wipe data/factory reset (but this will of course reset the rom and wipe the phones data, so do a backup first)
Also, i think there are some terminal commands to restart/activate app2sd (or data2sd, ) perhaps they would help?
For me, the one time months ago that i had issues with teh sd-ext partition seemingly not being used, i just took a backup, repartitioned the sd card, reflashed the rom (since i suspect that app2sd is initialised during first boot) and it worked.

icke said:
Most of your apps downloaded from market will be installed there. So...what did you mean with "which I can't do any thing with them"?
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samsamuel said:
as post above, and also, could it be that the 200mb used in your sd-ext partition is left over from an old rom?
To wipe the sd-ext, go into cwm and run a wipe data/factory reset (but this will of course reset the rom and wipe the phones data, so do a backup first)
Also, i think there are some terminal commands to restart/activate app2sd (or data2sd, ) perhaps they would help?
For me, the one time months ago that i had issues with teh sd-ext partition seemingly not being used, i just took a backup, repartitioned the sd card, reflashed the rom (since i suspect that app2sd is initialised during first boot) and it worked.
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That's what I'm talking about... That I've done task29 wipedata/factory reset b4 starting to install the ROM and when 1st start it the sd-ext is almost free then while installing the apps some go there and alot doesn't !!!!
for example now I have about 11MB free on the internal storage and 808 MB Free on the sd-ext, If I tried to install an app that is 14 MB I wouldn't be able to do so
For your knowledge, I've tried to install alot of rom's and they worked perfect, tried to contact Qaliza but I think he is busy now repling for my Issue, wiped my phone till I felt it wouldn't remember that he is a cell phone any more reinstalled the rom many times and always have the same Issue with the low disk space.... I think I'm in need of a patch or something like this.
Now I have a Q:
If I used this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20776525&postcount=2733 will it help or will it corrupt my ROM only??
sorry if my Q looks stupid but I'm really looking for any thing that could help

[Q] Pacman ROM install size

Hi all!
i'm not very experienced at this so if i say something stupid please correct me.
i tried setting up PACMAN rom on my S4 yesterday, and i noticed while in TWRP it showed that the S4 still has 9GB free, even after wiping and formatting the internal SD.
I did not install the ROM yet.
I take it the missing GB's are used in a system partion? which is only available when installing ROMs? Does PACMAN take up that much space or is there now space on the system partition that's not being used?
again, if this is not how it works, let me know.

sunkillmoon said:
Hi all!
i'm not very experienced at this so if i say something stupid please correct me.
i tried setting up PACMAN rom on my S4 yesterday, and i noticed while in TWRP it showed that the S4 still has 9GB free, even after wiping and formatting the internal SD.
I did not install the ROM yet.
I take it the missing GB's are used in a system partion? which is only available when installing ROMs? Does PACMAN take up that much space or is there now space on the system partition that's not being used?
again, if this is not how it works, let me know.
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PAC rom takes up very little space only. Tried it ytd. However, the missing spaces that is used for system purpose, cannot be used for apps or storage. (Not that I know of)

lzk123 said:
PAC rom takes up very little space only. Tried it ytd. However, the missing spaces that is used for system purpose, cannot be used for apps or storage. (Not that I know of)
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thank you for you answer. I won't repartition then.