what's the best way (is there a way) to flash/test different roms while keep all the apps intact in the main storage?
From what I read, i am not sure if the following 2 options are correct:
1. under recover, only wipe cash and leave the data alone.
2. use the EASY-UPGRADE-WIPE.zip instead of the FULL-WIPE
Am I on the right track or is there a better way of doing it? I know install on EXT on SD can solve this but I rather want apps installed on the main storage since there is plenty available.
thanks,
You could try titanium backup, I use that to keep all my apps when flashing a new rom.
If your staying on the dame base, then don't wipe your data partition. As far as I know it'll keep all your apps for you.
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Titanium backup or mybackuproot. However when using titanium backup, do not backup system settings because you are touching on diffferent roms .
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I am very familiar with TB but just trying to see if there is an easier option.
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If your staying on the dame base, then don't wipe your data partition. As far as I know it'll keep all your apps for you.
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say I use a gingerbread rom and now updating to another gingerbread rom all I have to do is to update the zip file through recovery? Even I do a wipe for everything it will still maintain the apps?
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searched around and can't really find right answers.
I currently have HD2 with 512mb running android. Due to the lack of internal storage space, all apps are stored in the EXT4 on the SD card. This is a very neat function actually. Every time I flash a rom, all the apps will still be there.
I am about to get the DHD soon and since it's got plenty internal storage I guess it's natural to install app on internal rather than on SD (i know some rom do have support for EXT on SD). My question is, is there a way to partition the internal storage so part of it act as EXT, this way every time flashing a rom I don't have to restore all the apps??
If there is another way to achieve this, please let me know as well.
thanks,
No need to do anything like that. Before you flash a new ROM just wipe all the partitions apart from the data partition. Once you have flashed the ROM your apps will still be there.
You can use an add on script for apps to SD as well if you prefer.
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Blinkydamo said:
No need to do anything like that. Before you flash a new ROM just wipe all the partitions apart from the data partition. Once you have flashed the ROM your apps will still be there.
You can use an add on script for apps to SD as well if you prefer.
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Good to know that there will be no problem re-installing apps. Since I can't get hands dirty with an actual unit yet, could you please explain a little on the "wiping all the partitions apart from data partition". So by default, apps will be installed in a separate partition? what do you use to WIPE paritions? Clockwork or wipe-all?
Go into clockwork recovery you can select which partitions to wipe. Go into the mounts part and you can wipe them individually, wipe each one in turn apart from the data partition.
If however you experience problems yo. May have to wipe the data partition. Just do a backup first.
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Some roms require a full wipe/factory reset before installing. Of course that will delete all apps including the one that I bought. Do I need to buy them again?
Also, will the 'titanium backup' backups the destop settings (i.e., the app shortcuts created on main screen)?
wildcolor said:
Some roms require a full wipe/factory reset before installing. Of course that will delete all apps including the one that I bought. Do I need to buy them again?
Also, will the 'titanium backup' backups the destop settings (i.e., the app shortcuts created on main screen)?
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Some launchers let you backup icon placements and such on the home screen. Also, as long as you use the same Google account you originally bought stuff from Google Play with on your new ROM or any other devic, you can download it again for free. Also Titanium Backup is an incredible app that will backup apps settings as well, so if you are thinking of getting it, go for the paid version, it's worth a least 4 times as much as it costs.
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Some launchers let you backup icon placements and such on the home screen. Also, as long as you use the same Google account you originally bought stuff from Google Play with on your new ROM or any other devic, you can download it again for free. Also Titanium Backup is an incredible app that will backup apps settings as well, so if you are thinking of getting it, go for the paid version, it's worth a least 4 times as much as it costs.
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Thanks for the reply. I bought TitaniumB already. But, if I do a full wipe, I actually also delete the Titanium app and the file it backuped, didn't I?
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Thanks for the reply. I bought TitaniumB already. But, if I do a full wipe, I actually also delete the Titanium app and the file it backuped, didn't I?
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Not if you leave the "sdcard" partition alone. You can wipe data and keep that data (which has your TB info) intact. Same goes for any backups/nandroids you performed with TWRP or CWR.
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Not if you leave the "sdcard" partition alone. You can wipe data and keep that data (which has your TB info) intact. Same goes for any backups/nandroids you performed with TWRP or CWR.
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It might be a stupid question, but What is TB short for? Also, the Nexus 7 only has one internal 'sdcard', by partition, did you mean that I could set many partitions like what we do under windows (i.e., C: , D: , E: ) ?
TB is titanium backup but I would just use es file explorer or something similar to back up the apps to the sd card
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It might be a stupid question, but What is TB short for? Also, the Nexus 7 only has one internal 'sdcard', by partition, did you mean that I could set many partitions like what we do under windows (i.e., C: , D: , E: ) ?
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You can but that's a totally different question/thread/answer. LOL What you want is to just flash a new rom after a wipe and to restore all your apps. It is ok to wipe your device, just do NOT wipe the internal SD card. That will wipe the rom you want to flash and other goodies. Another tip is to create an update.zip of your titanium backup program so that when you first flash your ROM, you can flash the update.zip right after. In Titanium backup, hit menu-"create update.zip". This will place the update.zip (titanium backup program) on your internal SDcard so you can flash it later.
Please delete the update.zip after you have your device up and running to avoid any confusions down the road. You can create the titanium backup "zip" file at any time and takes seconds to do. GL
thanks for all the reply.
I thought a full wipe would delete all user data (apps and all files) and was afraid to try to do the full wipe. Obversly, I was wrong. The wipe doesn't delete everything.
wildcolor said:
thanks for all the reply.
I thought a full wipe would delete all user data (apps and all files) and was afraid to try to do the full wipe. Obversly, I was wrong. The wipe doesn't delete everything.
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Nope the rom's data partition is seperate from the sdcard partition. A regular wipe of the data, cache, dalvic cache, and system doesn't delete the storage (sdcard) partition, they're kept seperate for that reason among others.
You have to actually tell it to wipe the sdcard partition in order to wipe it. Also, note that in recovery, wiping the data and cache partition is sometimes called "factory reset". I know in TWRP recovery it is, not sure about clockwork. If you know you're in recovery, the factory reset is perfectly safe, it only wipes data and cache. It's completely seperate from similar options that are in the rom (in settings) or in the factory bootloader.
When you see us referring to "Make sure you wipe completely" it's probably confusing, but we aren't referring to the sdcard and external storage. We are just referring to what's necessary for a proper rom install, which is data, system, dalvic cache, and cache.
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It's completely seperate from similar options that are in the rom (in settings) or in the factory bootloader.
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That is exactly what I confused about.
Thanks a lot. Thanks meter added again for the generous reply.
How does everyone back up they're apps, photos, etc. I wanna flash a custom ROM but I have everything setup on stock ROM so its holding me back
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How to backup:
- when not rooted:
photos, etc.: connect your Nexus 7 to a PC and copy the files to your PC
apps: use a backup app like "App backup & restore" from play store or "titanium backup"
you cannot backup the settings for each app, like your progress in a game. :crying:
- when rooted:
photos, etc.: connect your Nexus 7 to a PC and copy the files to your PC
apps: use a backup app like "App backup & restore" from play store or "titanium backup"
Titanium backup can also backup each app's settings including your progress in a game.
I use Titanium Backup so I can always restore to whatever state I want independant of the (custom) ROM I'm using
but Titanium backup isn't the only tool that can do this, ROM Toolbox (Pro) can also do this.
Anyway, having a custom recovery is essential if you want to install custom ROMs, and to install a custom recovery
you need to be rooted ! (I use TWRP recovery on my Nexus 7 btw.)
Good luck !
^^ what peter said, might I recommend getting titanium backup pro if you get the flashing bug, the extra features help a lot.
Cheers Danny
I recommend titanium backup to backup apps. Everything else is app dependent... I usually backup launcher layout. These backups are stored on your sdcard which is not wiped when flashing so no need to backup to the PC. Also make a nandroid in recovery in case you need a restore point or you don't like your new ROM.
peterpv said:
How to backup:
- when not rooted:
photos, etc.: connect your Nexus 7 to a PC and copy the files to your PC
apps: use a backup app like "App backup & restore" from play store or "titanium backup"
you cannot backup the settings for each app, like your progress in a game. :crying:
- when rooted:
photos, etc.: connect your Nexus 7 to a PC and copy the files to your PC
apps: use a backup app like "App backup & restore" from play store or "titanium backup"
Titanium backup can also backup each app's settings including your progress in a game.
I use Titanium Backup so I can always restore to whatever state I want independant of the (custom) ROM I'm using
but Titanium backup isn't the only tool that can do this, ROM Toolbox (Pro) can also do this.
Anyway, having a custom recovery is essential if you want to install custom ROMs, and to install a custom recovery
you need to be rooted ! (I use TWRP recovery on my Nexus 7 btw.)
Good luck !
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If I use titatium backup, won't my backups get wiped in the process?
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I use Apps2zip pro nice app just like ROMs
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If I use titatium backup, won't my backups get wiped in the process?
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No. There is a partition on the N7 called "sdcard" which is just your internal storage, an emulated SD card if you will. It will only wipe the data, cache, dalvik, and system partitions which leave your data unharmed.
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No. There is a partition on the N7 called "sdcard" which is just your internal storage, an emulated SD card if you will. It will only wipe the data, cache, dalvik, and system partitions which leave your data unharmed.
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Unless you still have a locked bootloader, in which case everything will be wiped. Err... right?
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Unless you still have a locked bootloader, in which case everything will be wiped. Err... right?
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If true, that's a good point to go rooted! ONE More
And then Just to clean applications through google play reinstall. A good way to do it remote from your computer. hence i see how important are the application I previously had.
I used to use titanium backup, Now I use MYbackup Pro. Very simple to setup and use. But still does everything that most people would need.
Another level of backup I use is Applist Backup. It creates a file list of your apps on your sdcard. If you need to restore it links to the play store. I don't use it on the N7, but I do on my phone. If nothing else I don't have to try to remember what apps I have installed.
Personally I never back up data. It's sync'd with Google or the app has its own backup routine.
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Has anyone backed up apps on 4.2.1, with a second user?
I am on stock rooted 4.2.1 and have my own user profile (with apps/widgets/settings) and also the wifes on another user profile. We both use our own google user details (for play store etc), does each user have to do a separate back up? I've used titanium before but just wondering how it works with more than one user, as I believe titanium now supports 4.2+, but chainfire SU root currently only works on the 'owner' user profile.
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No. There is a partition on the N7 called "sdcard" which is just your internal storage, an emulated SD card if you will. It will only wipe the data, cache, dalvik, and system partitions which leave your data unharmed.
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Ohhh okay! Everything on the SD is what I didn't want to delete. Reinstalling apps is easy. thanks!
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After you backup in titanium backup its always a good idea to create a backup zip and save it to Dropbox /Box/Google Drive or whatever cloudy storage you use just in case
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How am I supposed to back up my apps?
Supposedly titanium backup can't be used since it causes problems
Do I also have to wipe my SD card internal storage when doing a clean flash?
I am currently just using the default wipe in twrp.
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john566 said:
How am I supposed to back up my apps?
Supposedly titanium backup can't be used since it causes problems
Do I also have to wipe my SD card internal storage when doing a clean flash?
I am currently just using the default wipe in twrp.
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TB might cause problems, but I've never had any problems and I've used it every time I've flashed a ROM, so if I were you I wouldn't worry about it. And yes, you only have to do the default wipe, but to be safe you can go in to advanced wipe and wipe system as well before flashing. Don't wipe the internal SD unless you want to though
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As long as you don't back up system apps or system app data(messages, logs- have caused problems for me) TB will be fine. Make sure u manually backup any obb files for big games if you have.
Hello everyone, I've been an android fan for a long time but have only recently gotten my first smartphone- a Note 3.
Anyway, I flashed the Poland 4.4.2 a few days ago and I've afraid to flash Omega well basically I'm new to all of this.
Questions:
1. Do I need an sdcard to flash Omega 7.1? I currently don't have one and will be unable to get one for maybe at least a month.
2. I honestly love TW except for a few features it has that I don't use. So just to be clear, when I flash Omega 7.1 will I have the ability to select which TW apps(s-note,s-pen,etc) to install and not install(s-health,etc)?
3. I have TB installed and I am rooted. I have periodically made backups of all my application data. Will performing a full wipe remove the backups?(Knowing that I currently don't have an sdcard). Do I need to save TB backups on my desktop then?
4. What course of action do you guys recommend I should take to have the best possible and most error free experience with Omega 7.1 I should take?No wipe or full wipe? Will no wipe retain all my data?Application, phonebook,messages?I assume full wipe means all data will be lost.
Thank you for those who will be able to help and answer my queries especially those experienced with the Omega rom.
I tried searching the forums regarding the questions I have but I couldn't find them so resorting to posting a separate thread.
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Mandirigma said:
Hello everyone, I've been an android fan for a long time but have only recently gotten my first smartphone- a Note 3.
Anyway, I flashed the Poland 4.4.2 a few days ago and I've afraid to flash Omega well basically I'm new to all of this.
Questions:
1. Do I need an sdcard to flash Omega 7.1? I currently don't have one and will be unable to get one for maybe at least a month.
2. I honestly love TW except for a few features it has that I don't use. So just to be clear, when I flash Omega 7.1 will I have the ability to select which TW apps(s-note,s-pen,etc) to install and not install(s-health,etc)?
3. I have TB installed and I am rooted. I have periodically made backups of all my application data. Will performing a full wipe remove the backups?(Knowing that I currently don't have an sdcard). Do I need to save TB backups on my desktop then?
4. What course of action do you guys recommend I should take to have the best possible and most error free experience with Omega 7.1 I should take?No wipe or full wipe? Will no wipe retain all my data?Application, phonebook,messages?I assume full wipe means all data will be lost.
Thank you for those who will be able to help and answer my queries especially those experienced with the Omega rom.
I tried searching the forums regarding the questions I have but I couldn't find them so resorting to posting a separate thread.
More power to the XDA Community! :good:
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Nope no need for an extSD card.(advisable to get one incase of mishaps) - Just don't wipe internal memory if you plan to flash directly from your internal SD!
All TW functions are intact unless ROM Dev says otherwise - Aroma set up wizard will guide you through.. and those you don't want you can freeze with TiB
You can use TB fixer to restore your backups without issue
Full wipe all the way, fixes 99% of any potential issues
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Nope no need for an extSD card.(advisable to get one incase of mishaps) - Just don't wipe internal memory if you plan to flash directly from your internal SD!
All TW functions are intact unless ROM Dev says otherwise - Aroma set up wizard will guide you through.. and those you don't want you can freeze with TiB
You can use TB fixer to restore your backups without issue
Full wipe all the way, fixes 99% of any potential issues
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Wow that was fast.
Clarification:
is TB fixer an app?or a TB functionality? I haven't really played with TB yet. Will it be much easier if I made backups and then just store the backups on my pc and then do a full wipe and then restore the backups after flashing Omega? I find that the most straightforward approach but then again, things might be different in the Android community
Mandirigma said:
Wow that was fast.
Clarification:
is TB fixer an app?or a TB functionality? I haven't really played with TB yet. Will it be much easier if I made backups and then just store the backups on my PC and then do a full wipe and then restore the backups after flashing Omega? I find that the most straightforward approach but then again, things might be different in the Android community
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A full wipe will not delete internal or external memory cards' data. It will just remove personal system data. Nevertheless, it is not a bad idea to have a copy elsewhere.
I always make a copy in my external memory card and do what ever I want with the device with the external memory out just in case. and then put it back in when done.
The TB fixer is included (I believe) with Omega 7.1. I strongly recommend a full wipe.
good luck.
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A full wipe will not delete internal or external memory cards' data. It will just remove personal system data. Nevertheless, it is not a bad idea to have a copy elsewhere.
I always make a copy in my external memory card and do what ever I want with the device with the external memory out just in case. and then put it back in when done.
The TB fixer is included (I believe) with Omega 7.1. I strongly recommend a full wipe.
good luck.
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Ahh,thank you for that. The terminologies scare me as of now and what they actually implied since it'll be a pain in the ass recovering the data I have. I will perform a full backup with TB and will make a copy to my desktop just in case since I don't have an external memory yet mimicking what you do with making a copy to your extSD and taking it out.
I am now downloading the necessary stuff. I will post an update later.
thank you for the responses guys!
update: I have now successfully flashed Omega 7.1 on my Note 3.
thank you very much for clarifying you guys!
Mandirigma said:
update: I have now successfully flashed Omega 7.1 on my Note 3.
thank you very much for clarifying you guys!
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Great. Glad to be able to help you.