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i was just wondering with so many custom modifications being made to blackstone... in its software department by developers.... why havent we seen someone taking out the 529mhz processor and replacing it with the 1ghz snapdragon processor.... if not tht than something like a 800mhz or 600mhz processor....
and with that increasing ram a bit aswell to say like 512mb
hispeedworm said:
i was just wondering with so many custom modifications being made to blackstone... in its software department by developers.... why havent we seen someone taking out the 529mhz processor and replacing it with the 1ghz snapdragon processor.... if not tht than something like a 800mhz or 600mhz processor....
and with that increasing ram a bit aswell to say like 512mb
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I think they basically did that..........It's called the LEO!
not by htc... i mean by some basement modification.... like someone takes his hd n experiments on it a bit... not goin out and buying a newer model
all the cpus dont have the same nr of pins and located in the same places
Nothing's impossible!!! I'll get Mike Channon to start working on a tutorial toute suite!!! Will you look at his dedication with 3 packs of 3M floppy disks!!!
ACER F1
If you want snap dragon power in a Touch hd format then you want the ACER f1, together with the announcment that XDA is going to start support third party devices it makes this phone start to lok quite interesting as it is much cheaper than the HD2 and a better size in my opinion. The Nexus one is also another alternative if andriod floats you boat, it doesnt flat mine at the moment but it may get better in the not too distant furure.
A 1Ghz processor, and a Tegra graphics chip, and a 10mp camera with 720p video recording, and an AMOLED screen, and multi touchnessness, and...
the tech is there, "they" just dont want to deliver and "ultimate handset, they prefer to trckle out the tech in order that we buy handset after handset after another hoping for that perfect one. Look at the HD2, great handset but no 720p enabled, no TV out, it could have been a monster. maybe next time eh?
stoolzo said:
the tech is there, "they" just dont want to deliver and "ultimate handset, they prefer to trckle out the tech in order that we buy handset after handset after another hoping for that perfect one. Look at the HD2, great handset but no 720p enabled, no TV out, it could have been a monster. maybe next time eh?
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Wouldn't bet on it. HTC have a habit of not really advancing great amounts between each device released. Look at the specs of latest devices and forthcoming ones....no real improvement whatsoever!!
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Wouldn't bet on it. HTC have a habit of not really advancing great amounts between each device released. Look at the specs of latest devices and forthcoming ones....no real improvement whatsoever!!
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Couldn't agree more. There is really no device that has all the nice features in it. They want to create variety of devices to sell more. It's all about marketing strategy.
hispeedworm said:
i was just wondering with so many custom modifications being made to blackstone... in its software department by developers.... why havent we seen someone taking out the 529mhz processor and replacing it with the 1ghz snapdragon processor.... if not tht than something like a 800mhz or 600mhz processor....
and with that increasing ram a bit aswell to say like 512mb
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i whas wondering it to and in that topic we came to the conclusion that if it eventually would be possible to upgrade hardware there also need to be made different roms matchings the devices hardware
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Wouldn't bet on it. HTC have a habit of not really advancing great amounts between each device released. Look at the specs of latest devices and forthcoming ones....no real improvement whatsoever!!
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that only serves to prove my point
st3ph3nt3 said:
Couldn't agree more. There is really no device that has all the nice features in it. They want to create variety of devices to sell more. It's all about marketing strategy.
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quite right, its a numbers game, a perfect device would kill the market.
and as to the question, do you have any idea whats involved in changing hardware in the HD? firstly its a chipset, its not just one chip you stick any chip thats not ment to be in there and it isnt going to work, you would need to change the whole set, that pretty much means your sticking a new PCB in. not even to mention the pin and track layouts.
secondly the software isnt like a computer, you cant swap things and install new drivers, mostly because there are no drivers, the OS is made HTC then build the base platform around the hardware. Back in the day you might have found an old PDA that had two versions one had more RAM perhaps, the spaces on the PCB might be in the cheeper version which aloud you to upgrade the RAM. Those days are gone. take a look at any PDA PCB and you will see several surface mounted ICs on a tiny PCB.
This is to stop all the whining and speculating of what chips are what and who ate the extra RAMAROM.
If you have any special request of what you want pictures taken of please say now as I plan to put it back together before I sleep tonight.
Update2: BROADCOM BCM4329EKUBG - photo attached
Update3: HYNIX H8BES0UU0MCR (46M 941A 8MRQ432) - photo attached
Update4: There is a chip next to the Hynix called ATMEL, anyone know what that is?
CPU: Qualcomm QSD8250
Wifi: Broadcom BCM4329
Flash: HYNIX H8BES0UU0MCR
Network: Avago ACPM7371 + ACPM7381 (for WCDMA) TQS 7M5012 (for GSM/GPRS/EDGE)
Power Management: Qualcomm PM7540
GPS: Qualcomm RTR6285
Unknown chips: ATMEL EGA88V
Its closed now but I'd like to thank everyone for the support.
You can find a complete collection of the photos here.
can't wait to see what it looks like!!!
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If you have any special request of what you want pictures taken of please say now as I plan to put it back together before I sleep tonight.
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Just take pictures of everything - but confirmation that the Broadcom 4329 chip is in there would be good as would partno's for the RAM and ROM.
If you find any sort of marking on the camera/lens that would also be very interesting.
i think it's great that you want to do this
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Just take pictures of everything - but confirmation that the Broadcom 4329 chip is in there would be good as would partno's for the RAM and ROM.
If you find any sort of marking on the camera/lens that would also be very interesting.
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I guess that's wat we all would like to know If I think of something else I'll let you know a.s.a.p.
Ah yes, what would be interesting:
SUPPOSE the extra RAMAROM isn't there (nice word btw ), there might be a soldering spot for an extra ROM module on the mainboard.
Oh, while your at it, it may be a good idea to change your thread title to something like: "PICTURES OF THE HD2 INTERNALS".
Can't wait!
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If you have any special request of what you want pictures taken of please say now as I plan to put it back together before I sleep tonight.
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Yeah! U r my hero! go go go 4 gold!
meegulthwarp said:
As the title says.
This is to stop all the whining and speculating of what chips and who ate the extra RAMAROM.
If you have any special request of what you want pictures taken of please say now as I plan to put it back together before I sleep tonight.
Update: Some pictures up, more on the way. Anyone know where the ROMARAM is?
Update2: BROADCOM BCM4329EKUBG, no photo yet as it is a shiny chip and can't get a good shot.
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Maybe we should donate a camera?
Nice work!
freyberry said:
Maybe we should donate a camera?
Nice work!
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LOL, yeah I need a new one. This IXUS 70 has a severe problem with macro shots.
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LOL, yeah I need a new one. This IXUS 70 has a severe problem with macro shots.
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Try not to use the macro on a shot. Sometimes it makes a sharper picture (enough MP anyway)
And just in case:
Write down what is on the chips
Can you focus on the Hynix chip, or describe what the code is you're seeing?
Broadcom bcm4329ekubg
Like the Google Nexus One: WiFi N, receiver & transmitter fm
The hynix chip might be a ram chip. They do make ram. Says "45M" on it...no idea if this means MB, i doubt it. Are there more hynix chips? hyundai, samsung would be other ram manufacturers!
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Can you focus on the Hynix chip, or describe what the code is you're seeing?
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+1
that looks like memory chip indeed
http://www.hynix.co.kr/gl/products/mobile.jsp?menuNo=1&m=4&s=0
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Can you focus on the Hynix chip, or describe what the code is you're seeing?
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See first post.
Is this it?
http://www.dataio.com/device/detail...62186&SUP_ID=56249&PMODEL=PS300FC&HW_ID=58323
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See first post.
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Looks like a 1G chip:
http://www.dataio.com/device/support_list.asp?DidList=62186&Prog=ALL
micaman said:
Is this it?
http://www.dataio.com/device/detail...62186&SUP_ID=56249&PMODEL=PS300FC&HW_ID=58323
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Just found it too. I think that's it. But it seems it's rom, doesn't it?
Yes it seems to be a 1GB chip... Bit confused here, the site says ADAPTERS REQUIRED above the column...
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Just found it too. I think that's it. But it seems it's rom, doesn't it?
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Yes it's flash memory..
Sometimes good ideas come from bad situations! Yesterday my girlfriend accidently kicked my lg optimus v into a glass of ginger ale. This is really putting a damper on my kernel development projects.
Anyways to see if I could save the phone at all to use till the replacement gets here I had an idea. Why not reuse the working board and build a mini arm pc with embedded linux on it.
So I'm wondering if anyone out there knows if qualcom will give you chipset schematics and data sheets there site seems fairly sparse. I need schematics for the msm7627. See I figured you could replace the charger with a five port hub then bypass the battery and connect a power supply to the board. You can easily build keyboard mouse support into even the android kernel. But I'm wondering how to connect a monitor maybe if you knew the lcd pin layout you could connect a vga screen to the old socket for the lcd. This is where I think I need schematics unless the pin layout is standard?
I have so many qualcom arm phones with screen damage why not make them into low powered desktop arm dev systems or server, routers, embedded toasters?
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Qualcomm? Schematics for Qualcomm CPUs? Hah! Sorry, forget it. It's probably harder to get than sourcecode of current version of Windows.
There are leaked parts of schemas/manuals for older SoCs. Also if you can find ARMLinux (Android) kernel for such qualcomm CPU - You can build whole new system basing on SFRs description and deep analyse of mainboard. But without schemas it's hundreds hours of blind shots.
I think the biggest issue your going to face is the fact that Qualcomm has never been keen on giving out architectural sheets on their chipsets. Since most newer chipsets incorporate improvements from older models, it would be akin to them giving their competitors access to some very guarded information.
The odds of them giving the design to you without you representing a company that is licensing their chipset for use in a phone, greatly decreases your chances even further.
On a positive note, bypassing the battery should be relatively simple, however, as with all lithium batteries there is a voltage control mechanism built into the phone that you will need to adapt to function properly with a different type of power supply.
As for the monitor, the odds of you being able to adapt a VGA/HDMI cable to a system that is designed to read input from the touchscreen/digitizer is another chore, and would require you to pioneer something from scratch.
I would say your work is cut out for you.
If you really want to do something like this, buy a Raspberry Pi when they hit. It'll be much more adaptable to what your looking to do.
~Jasecloud4
Yap, why going for stuffs like dat? It will blow the entire time u have got to work with roms.
About supply, yap u can manage it.
About chip spec. , its hard
About external/internal display, its nearly impossible unless u have VGA/HDMI o/p.
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Well my primary device is is trashed from it beimg totally drenched in soda so all my kernel development is at a schreeching halt basically. Hopefully it will be replaced in the next few days so I can get back on track.
As far as building a little workstation goes that dream is dead lol. I bypassed the battery and hooked the board up to a power supply that was 3volts at 1300ma and it smoked the board. I have plenty of other qualcom phones with bad screens but I didn't realize that they were so closed. I was just tryin to make crap into something usefull lol.
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this rasberry pi thing is exactly what I was looking for and its just the right price! Seriously this is goning to be an awesome little system to vnc into and build arm based assembly. The only thing qualcom has over this is that there are obviously kernel supported drivers for it to use the multiple arm chips and dsp chips so I'm assuming the low end msm 7x qualcom boards are a bit faster although idk they said this thing will push q3 at 1080p. I'm also looking at the beagleboard but this has such a nice price price 25 bucks is right up everyones ally. I smell an android port!
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If you're looking for something with good open source support AND open documentation - check out the BeagleBoard and PandaBoard.
PandaBoard ES has the same CPU as the GNex.
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....So I'm wondering if anyone out there knows if qualcom will give you chipset schematics and data sheets there site seems fairly sparse....
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Unlikely. Qualcomm considers the information proprietary and requires you to contact support. See Where are the datasheets?
Here are some! Hack away!
This is my newest project. It's basically a way to greatly improve the already great HD2. The plan is to take the hardware of the hd2 and put it into a new housing to increase functionality.
Goals:
front facing camera
better signal
front facing speaker (why in the world would you ever want to turn your phone around to hear it)
camera lens protection
bigger battery
wireless charging
kickstand
camera swivel
looks
a breath of fresh air for the ever so aging HD2
Achieved:
front facing speaker
kickstand
proximity and light sensor repositioned
evo 4g lte housing (chose this because the device can stay slim and pocketable while still adding new features)
2300 mah battery
Problems:
No More Front Camera (due to needing the phone to actually charge)
with the extension of the micro usb and headphone jack, it makes it nearly impossible for the camera to swivel back to rear position
removable battery door
Future Plans:
make a primary hd2 docking station complete with external battery speakers and keyboard (idea thanks to xyntaxis)
So what do you think of this project? I am open to any suggestions or support.
on sale for how much
amitkool21 said:
on sale for how much
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I'm sorry. Not for sale yet. Not until everything is working. It still need tweaks for both the hardware and software side. Thanks for the interest though.
isaiah12345 said:
I'm sorry. Not for sale yet. Not until everything is working. It still need tweaks for both the hardware and software side. Thanks for the interest though.
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Let me know if you need spare HD2 parts.
add pics pls
nice project! can we change the CPU lol
mengfei said:
nice project! can we change the CPU lol
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i had an idea for that, but that would require changing a lot of drivers and kernels. If we can our best bet would be to either get a higher clocked qualcomm s1 from something like the titan, or wait for wp8 and upgrade to an s2 through s4. Unfortunately, for now that's just a half baked idea.
edit: remember the main point of this thread is to change the look and feel of the hd2. the internals aren't really being touched. btw, i'll have some pics up when i get the proper housing. when the pics are up i'm sure there will be a better understanding of this project.
isaiah12345 said:
i had an idea for that, but that would require changing a lot of drivers and kernels. If we can our best bet would be to either get a higher clocked qualcomm s1 from something like the titan, or wait for wp8 and upgrade to an s2 through s4. Unfortunately, for now that's just a half baked idea.
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I don't know much about this stuff, but wouldn't the larger battery and front facing camera already require new drivers + kernel changes? Also, I think if anything needs to be improved it's the GPU, not the CPU. Once again I have no clue how this works and whether or not the GPU and CPU are somehow dependent on each other so if this isn't possible then I guess there isn't much that can be done about it.
I support your idea all the way though
This thread is kinda science fiction. You can't simply change CPU or GPU because they are SoC. Any hardware change require massive talent, knowledge and time because we don't have detailed schematics for hardware and software so you would need to reverse engineer it.
Thoughts are good, but it's too hard and time consuming IMO. Good luck though, I'll be watching this thread
Pics or didin't happen
Great idea! But I assume this is going to be a very painful and time consuming process. I wish you great luck!!!
Its a realy crazy idea! :cyclops:
Can you post a foto of what you have at this time?
xyntaxis said:
Its a realy crazy idea! :cyclops:
Can you post a foto of what you have at this time?
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that's how some "great" ideas started out
How about this kind of device? =)
Also it can contain cardreader, USB Video Adapter, usb drive and reflector for redirect signal on more powerfull antenna =)
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How about this kind of device? =)
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Hi xyntaxis, nicola360 had a similar idea with a couple of dvd cases http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15860262&postcount=8 and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21258168&postcount=555
Yours looks cool though
Robbie P said:
Hi xyntaxis, nicola360 had a similar idea with a couple of dvd cases http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15860262&postcount=8 and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21258168&postcount=555
Yours looks cool though
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Thx, Robbie, for this fotos! It halp me realise my ideas in hardware :good:
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How about this kind of device? =)
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& how big are we talking here?
size looks like almost an A4 size?
does anyone know the name of this keyboard?
it would be a wonderful addition
pic plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.... i would like to see the front camera and how is the OS able to figure out that there are two cameras now ?
The hardware of the OPPO Find 5 and ASUS Padfone 2 are very much the same, have a look here
My NOOB question: would it be safe to try the Oppo Find 5 Rom on the padfone 2?
Cheers,
Adrian
You'd be risking a brick.
thanks for the answer Chasmodo.
may I bother you with another beginners question? I am a true layman in these matters. What does it take to get Omni running? would it mean a lot of work to make the Oppo OmniRom "fit" the Padfone? Would the fact that the hardware is so much the same an advantage, less work to be done?
If i understand it correctly the hurdle to tackle is mainly the kernel as it is the handler between software and hardware.
If answering is too much of a hassle ( I would understand and this might not be the correct place to ask), perhaps you know a good starting point for me to learn more about the basics of adapting KitKat ot a new phone.
Thanks,
Adrian
Kernel is a big part of it, blobs are too.
Just because the SoC is the same doesn't mean there is much else. Display (1080p 5" means nothing - there are at least 5-10 different displays that all meet this criteria), charging circuitry, audio routing, camera, etc.
Entropy512 said:
Kernel is a big part of it, blobs are too.
Just because the SoC is the same doesn't mean there is much else. Display (1080p 5" means nothing - there are at least 5-10 different displays that all meet this criteria), charging circuitry, audio routing, camera, etc.
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Ok, thanks for the answer Entropy512.
Guess it means I have to be hopeful and patient..... I definitely do not have the skills to do this myself.