Our phone (arc/s) vs phone on new Atom processor - Xperia Arc General

As you can see our phone is still good ;D
http://youtu.be/ze5z8grcXhU

more info here: http://blog.gsmarena.com/qualcomm-latest-ad-targets-intels-new-atom-processor/

Cool I'd love a topic on power efficiency of both chips though, probably a threaded single core vs 2 arm cores.

Just Shocked .. When i Saw Arc S in the Video..running ICS
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i have an arc and google nav has never loaded that quickly, and i just loaded that webpage after a bit of stuttering trying to zoom the browser force closed! someone with an arc s have a try

Who knows what they've put in that Arc S chassis.

My ICS is as smooth as shown in the video
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simplyjustkids said:
My ICS is as smooth as shown in the video
Sent From My Sony Xperia Arc S
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Me too LOL JJ remix are cool)

I don't know.... I don't remember my arc s being THAT fast running official sony ics. I only get that kind of performance on tweaked custom roms with supercharger!

Idonot think that i will give up my arc S for any -i- or what ever phone!i mean it eoriesmjurisdic

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Is it worth switching on Desire HD ?

Hello every one, a simple question, i have an iphone 3gs, and want to ask is it worth switching from iphone to desire hd ?
Iphone really bored me
ceva said:
Hello every one, a simple question, i have an iphone 3gs, and want to ask is it worth switching from iphone to desire hd ?
Iphone really bored me
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Simple answer Yes. This is my best phone yet.
just made the same switch, getting mine later today or tomorrow.. hope its not "android" lagging as engadget writes
anyone who says that this phone lags is a jack*ss. If you run a quadrant benchmark on the stock phone you get marks of around 2000 which beats a nexus one by around 600. I use the android revolution rom and get a score of around 2500. On linpack i get 75 megaflops. The "lagging" problem is solved by switching the usb debugging option on. This phone rocks!! With an adreno 205 graphics unit, 1 ghz processor(can be overclocked upto 1.53 ghz --- buzzoc) and 768 mb of ram..its the fastest phone on the market today
Yes, the hardware is top of the line on the DHD, but still im afraid of the OS, engadget (known Apple fans) wrote about the Naxus S -"touch response and general framerate on everything seems to be cranked closer to the vicinity of the iPhone 4....-with little of that Android-lag we've seen on earlier devices".
But after seeing some youtube clips on the DHD and not noticing any lagg what so ever, i ordered mine and hope that engadget just doesnt like Android in their reviews
irteza_h said:
anyone who says that this phone lags is a jack*ss. If you run a quadrant benchmark on the stock phone you get marks of around 2000 which beats a nexus one by around 600. I use the android revolution rom and get a score of around 2500. On linpack i get 75 megaflops. The "lagging" problem is solved by switching the usb debugging option on. This phone rocks!! With an adreno 205 graphics unit, 1 ghz processor(can be overclocked upto 1.53 ghz --- buzzoc) and 768 mb of ram..its the fastest phone on the market today
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75 MFLOPS? What have you done with your phone??? I have Android Revolution 1.8 with the 1.1.1 Buzz Kernel 1,51Ghz running on Performance Mode (SetCPU) and I get around 53 MFLOPS ... ??
tvoben said:
just made the same switch, getting mine later today or tomorrow.. hope its not "android" lagging as engadget writes
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there is a bug called the init bug causing the lag, all you need to do is enable usb debugging mode from the development menu and it will go away for good, also animated live wallpaper are known to slow things down a notch, so leave that off
all android froyo phones after few days of usage might drop speed so when this happens all you need is to make a restart and it will be very fast again, the reboot takes a moment, also you should know this speed drop is not reflected inside the apps, only the main interface and it only happens when you've been using the phone heavily for a couple of days without a restart
gingerbread is said to have an app garbish cleaning mechanism that should hopefully fix this issue, HTC updated/updating its desire, legend and wildfire to froyo, so you should expect their flagship DHD to get the gingerbread update first
otherwise phone is blazing fast, fastest android phone on the block, equal or faster than the nexus S (the 2nd gen snapdragon is very optimized plus higher IO and more RAM, highly overclockable)
the GPU is also fast in theory the nexus S should be faster but all test are showing better results from the DHD's adreno 205 GPU, it runs quake 2 at 45-60fps, neocore at 58FPS, nenamark at 42FPS
Thanks for answers guys. I will switch my iphone tomorrow for this baby dhd
ceva said:
Thanks for answers guys. I will switch my iphone tomorrow for this baby dhd
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good choice
lots of info in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=864393
If I'm iphone4 user, I will not think twice to get the dhd. HTC ftw!
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I agree, DHD is a great phone (I come from Nokia and there is a huge difference), my best phone yet...
Try4Ce said:
75 MFLOPS? What have you done with your phone??? I have Android Revolution 1.8 with the 1.1.1 Buzz Kernel 1,51Ghz running on Performance Mode (SetCPU) and I get around 53 MFLOPS ... ??
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Well in setcpu .. in the performance mode increase max and min level both to maximum possible ...( i use the buzzoc 1.55 kernal ... that gives me 75 mflops)
EDIT: well and restart your phone before you run linpack
There, now im a user, lets hope i dont **** up the phone while rooting ;(
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Definitely yes for me. Previously I was using Windows Mobile 6.5
tvoben said:
There, now im a user, lets hope i dont **** up the phone while rooting ;(
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Try it without rooting first to see if you really need the DHD rooted. I have rooted mine but to be honest I still haven't done anything that needs root access. The OS gives you the opportunity to install non-market apps, so unless you want a custom ROM or overclocking, it makes little sense to root it. And if you decide to do it anyway, there are some good step-by-step guides in the development section on how to do it safely.
Anyway - enjoy your new phone! I know I do
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Okey. Might be wrong place to ask, but on my dhd the screen is beneith the case, hence my finger makes a sound against it while I swipe left if right.
Is it just mine or is it the design. ?
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tvoben said:
Okey. Might be wrong place to ask, but on my dhd the screen is beneith the case, hence my finger makes a sound against it while I swipe left if right.
Is it just mine or is it the design. ?
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It's the design. The point in this is to keep it from scratching the screen while put upside-down. And if you install a screen protector, it lies completely inside that space, so it's leveled with the heightened "lip".
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tvoben said:
There, now im a user, lets hope i dont **** up the phone while rooting ;(
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Look what you can do though, its worth it
And yes it is a DHD
Awesome phone i got it today. But i can't really find some instructions how to install some theme or skin witch are at theme section, i know that my phone need to be ruted and all that, but can some one trow me few links with instructions please ? Thanks
Iphone might be more user friendly but android is more customisable. Plus desire hd has great hardware. Iphone is for followers, android is for leaders.
If you're a nerd and like to fiddle, android is for you, otherwise, stick to apple.
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arc perfomance vs dhd

Hi all. I with my friends compared performance of arc to desire hd and nexus one in browsermark using opera mobile and android default browser. In default browser arc scored almost 2 times more, using opera it scored 30% more.
Why arc is so much faster? This 3 phones have almost identical hardware. Scores of dhd and nexus one are almost identical. Has sony done some magic to dalvik?
Different processor ?
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Different processor ?
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No, both arc and DHD use msm8255. I guess Sony makes a better board design or uses better components.
In PC boards, we also have this case. Same chipset but different performance.
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Different processor ?
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They all run on snapdragon cortex a9 processor, arc and dhd have the same processor, nexus uses 60nm chip instead of 45nm.
Maybe better optimized!
Do you know CM ? Current version is CM7.1.
I think the performance on CM7.1 is better than ARC official version
God512 said:
Maybe better optimized!
Do you know CM ? Current version is CM7.1.
I think the performance on CM7.1 is better than ARC official version
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Thats what I think too, but 80% improvement in browser O_O just wow.
Btw, can anyone test it? http://browsermark.rightware.com/browsermark/index.action Just to be sure my friend is not lying He claims his arc gets 65k.
I just ran it and got 54475 but I think I can make it better, coz whatsapp notified me of a message and the phone becomes more responsive after restarting it when you have it run for long time...
Mine scores 61k+ with the .283 build. Tested it last October before updating to .42
Attached a screenshot.
Awesome
Always thought Arc and DHD would be quite the same and the Arc is just a better lookomg DHD.
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My Score
FW : .42
Kernel : DoomKernel v13
CPU Clock : 1400
.42 fw. Just removed bloat and changed vm heap size to 36.
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Grand theft auto 3 on desire

Hi folks,
i just downloaded the version from android market, but it hangs up on loading screen.
I wondered if anyone got it to work?
Sincerely,
fk
Hi mate I unlocked the market place with chainfire and downloaded it and it hangs After the video is played but on YouTube there's a lad who had it working on stock 2.3.5 htcs latest update for our phone I've tried it got stuck with hboot finally got back to 98 and I can't still get it work
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Got it running but removed it again. It just runs to slow on a Desire(on my Desire).
It's like driving cars in slow motion with 1 fps.
So I guess there's no point in trying this!
Thanks to all of you!
It's laggy as hell... Some shaman dances and magic spells seemed to increase fps from 1 to 5-6, yet still impossible to play)) Well, maybe Rockstar will concider optimizing GTA3 for single-core devices...
Sadly Desire can't play this game, its hardware just isn't powerful enough. Also installed it on GF Samsung Galaxy S2 and it works super smooth.
I download it now, it has 430mb, almost certainly it will be very laggy, same like Gameloft HD games.
yep did 2 missions but it ****es me up.. like the pre poster said 1fps its laggy and makes no fun to play it on the desire..
waiting for my new sgs2
My Desire S runs it fine!
Wow, I guess the 2nd gen CPU and GPU must make a heck of a difference!
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It lags,can't play it!
Just use this app http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1305060 and set it for hard gaming, and use chainfire and set it like the picture, and overclock ur device to the max.
It works for me. Sometimes it's a bit laggy but it's very playable.
P.S. the chainfire setup is only for desire, might want to select "reduce textures" instead of "unroll". But on the desire it works great.
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hi im also having the same loading screen problem on my samsung galaxy s plus i9001.ur rom kanager and chainfire settings doesnt help me,someone pls share if u have any new fix.
olyloh6696 said:
My Desire S runs it fine!
Wow, I guess the 2nd gen CPU and GPU must make a heck of a difference!
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From what I have seen on youtube desire S is just has bad. but much more playable then desire, still slow FPS.
With RAM Manager gaming mode GTA3 runs better but still unplayable.
This game need better CPU.
shankly1985 said:
From what I have seen on youtube desire S is just has bad. but much more playable then desire, still slow FPS.
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Yeah, i take back what i said before
It was smooth and all, for a bit, but after playing 15mins or so, the game begins to lag...
I tried OC to 1.5Ghz, but it doesnt make much of a difference
I'm on 1.0. I loaded 1.1, it works, but crashes after 5 minutes gameplay. I have to reboot my phone.
I don't see a performance inprovement in 1.1 tbh.
Watch a video of it on the Samsung galaxy tab 8.9 or ipad2 and you can see how liquid smooth it is!
There are higher graphics! You can see the headlights of cars, refelctions etc, seems much better and smooth!
Wonder how it holds up on the ipod touch4, it has 1ghz cpu and only 256mb RAM, less than your Desires. I saw on my Desire S, it takes up a hefty 153mb RAM when running!
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rosuvladut said:
it lags,can't play it!
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olyloh6696 said:
Yeah, i take back what i said before
It was smooth and all, for a bit, but after playing 15mins or so, the game begins to lag...
I tried OC to 1.5Ghz, but it doesnt make much of a difference
I'm on 1.0. I loaded 1.1, it works, but crashes after 5 minutes gameplay. I have to reboot my phone.
I don't see a performance inprovement in 1.1 tbh.
Watch a video of it on the Samsung galaxy tab 8.9 or ipad2 and you can see how liquid smooth it is!
There are higher graphics! You can see the headlights of cars, refelctions etc, seems much better and smooth!
Wonder how it holds up on the ipod touch4, it has 1ghz cpu and only 256mb RAM, less than your Desires. I saw on my Desire S, it takes up a hefty 153mb RAM when running!
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Yep its time like these where I want October 2012 to come. Thats when I can get new phone lol But in saying that apart from gaming Desire still holds its own with even the big new phones. Who would of fort we can run sense 3.5 and now getting worked on ICS sense 3.5 time are still great, just not when playing some games lol.
I had less than 5 fps -.-'
It run smooth in the begining...
after entering the game.......
Everything change..........
slow...............
Desire is not suitable to play this...
Although there is some way to play it smooth (OC and chanfire), keep your desire to be long lasting
It lags very much. Desire's hardware is not enough for this game.

For discussion GB VS ICS in performance ..

Hi all
i used a lot of ICS roms here but it seemed to be bad in gameing and not fast as the GB ..
Is this the problem of ICS ????
when I use GB i play a heavy games with no problem , but in ICS it is laggy and i need to overclock the cpu to play .. even though still laggy ..
also in the performance , i see the GB is much better and smooth than ICS ..
I am now back to GB but I missed the ICS ..
It will be better if there is a hyberd rom that is contain GB and ICS togather ..
so in your opinion : what is the problem ??
is it from ICS ?? or the arc is weak to get good ICS ???
Neither the arc, nor the arc s is too weak.
Let's take my HTC Wildfire S as instance:
600 MHz SC CPU
512 MB RAM (400 useable, btw this is more than on arc (s))
CM9 runs perfectly smoothly. Also the new xperia lineup has 800 MHz phones which have the new timescape gui and ICS.
I think the problem are insufficient drivers or just a *****y programming with memleaks.
The amount of free RAM is also a reason.
everyone has their own definition of what is smooth. as for me, i define it as:
1. Fling of homescreens and applications on stock launcher is solid iPhone-like even with widgets on a non-live wallpaper. The smoothness that would not let you think of Jelly Bean at all.
2. Basic applications critical for phone use like Contacts, Messaging, Browser should also be as smooth as number 1 above.
3. Temple Run Brave while in the gameplay, no lost frames and instant response on swipes. Reason is not for gaming, but means the phone will behave smoothly on heavy processing.
Since everyone has different opinion on smoothness, nobody can tell that their phone is smoothest.
What I can say though is that on any ICS ROM I have tried, nothing meets my 3 criteria above. Hence I stick with Gingerbread.
I am critical and allergic to laggy interface / phone. Destroys the experience, makes you insecure of other phones.
I installed "Jellybread" by omenHTX today and it's great Gingerbread Stuff! You should give it a shot
After so many bad experiences with ICS I am really glad someone focused on GB again
Greetings!
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theq86 said:
Neither the arc, nor the arc s is too weak.
Let's take my HTC Wildfire S as instance:
600 MHz SC CPU
512 MB RAM (400 useable, btw this is more than on arc (s))
CM9 runs perfectly smoothly. Also the new xperia lineup has 800 MHz phones which have the new timescape gui and ICS.
I think the problem are insufficient drivers or just a *****y programming with memleaks.
The amount of free RAM is also a reason.
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I was thinking about it and I think the problem is from Sony itself
maybe they give us a garbage update to feel that our phone is outdated to Chang it ..
UI Smoothness is more than acceptable on Arconium ICS but the phone is simply just too slow in the performance department, so it lags a lot - on both ICS and GB. Stock GB was just a small tad faster than Arconium ICS and significantly faster than stock ICS.
The biggest difference was the animation smoothness though, because the phone lacks performance under GB too - the processor runs at 100% for a few seconds until it launches some heavier apps, and with ICS even basic apps like youtube became heavy.
jtdc said:
everyone has their own definition of what is smooth. as for me, i define it as:
1. Fling of homescreens and applications on stock launcher is solid iPhone-like even with widgets on a non-live wallpaper. The smoothness that would not let you think of Jelly Bean at all.
2. Basic applications critical for phone use like Contacts, Messaging, Browser should also be as smooth as number 1 above.
3. Temple Run Brave while in the gameplay, no lost frames and instant response on swipes. Reason is not for gaming, but means the phone will behave smoothly on heavy processing.
Since everyone has different opinion on smoothness, nobody can tell that their phone is smoothest.
What I can say though is that on any ICS ROM I have tried, nothing meets my 3 criteria above. Hence I stick with Gingerbread.
I am critical and allergic to laggy interface / phone. Destroys the experience, makes you insecure of other phones.
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so i think the problem is from ics

[Q] Overclocking Sony Xperia Z1

How can I overclock my Sony Xperia Z1? And how much speed can be achieved with overclocking, actually to which clock can it go so it can work normally?
BKL SONY Z1 said:
How can I overclock my Sony Xperia Z1? And how much speed can be achieved with overclocking, actually to which clock can it go so it can work normally?
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you will need to unlock bootloader>instal new karnel that support over clocking> then overclock your phone
This is as easy as possible but in reality this is so hard, actually I am not sure if there is any karnel that support overclocking. Why do you need to overclock your Z1, you won't notice much performance boost, but you will drain your battery alot faster, most people underclock their Z1 to get better battery life
@BKL SONY Z1 You can't open 2 identical threads on different sections. One of this 2 will be closed!

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