Hi all. I with my friends compared performance of arc to desire hd and nexus one in browsermark using opera mobile and android default browser. In default browser arc scored almost 2 times more, using opera it scored 30% more.
Why arc is so much faster? This 3 phones have almost identical hardware. Scores of dhd and nexus one are almost identical. Has sony done some magic to dalvik?
Different processor ?
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Different processor ?
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No, both arc and DHD use msm8255. I guess Sony makes a better board design or uses better components.
In PC boards, we also have this case. Same chipset but different performance.
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Different processor ?
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They all run on snapdragon cortex a9 processor, arc and dhd have the same processor, nexus uses 60nm chip instead of 45nm.
Maybe better optimized!
Do you know CM ? Current version is CM7.1.
I think the performance on CM7.1 is better than ARC official version
God512 said:
Maybe better optimized!
Do you know CM ? Current version is CM7.1.
I think the performance on CM7.1 is better than ARC official version
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Thats what I think too, but 80% improvement in browser O_O just wow.
Btw, can anyone test it? http://browsermark.rightware.com/browsermark/index.action Just to be sure my friend is not lying He claims his arc gets 65k.
I just ran it and got 54475 but I think I can make it better, coz whatsapp notified me of a message and the phone becomes more responsive after restarting it when you have it run for long time...
Mine scores 61k+ with the .283 build. Tested it last October before updating to .42
Attached a screenshot.
Awesome
Always thought Arc and DHD would be quite the same and the Arc is just a better lookomg DHD.
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Hey saw this over at GSMarena the HTC D'HD has been benchmarked with neocore and quadrant and the quadrant results are amazing much higher than the N1 have a look here http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_desire_hd_gets_benchmarked_its_rom_ported_to_the_hd2-news-1941.php
Here are other benchmarks: http://www.areamobile.de/handys/2591-htc-desire-hd/testbericht (german):
HTC Desire HD
Sunspider Benchmark 4261 ms
Google V8 Benchmark v5 420 pts
Quadrant Benchmark 1675 pts
Samsung Galaxy S
Sunspider Benchmark 16321 ms
Google V8 Benchmark v5 70,7 pts
Quadrant Benchmark 871 pts
Apple iPhone 4
Sunspider Benchmark 10804 ms
Google V8 Benchmark v5 85,4 Punkte
Quadrant Benchmark -
Oh yeah thanks Seems strange though GSMarena's model made almost 2000 (1974) in Quadrant Where as areamobile's HD only reached 1675 which is alot of difference because my overclocked Froyo Hero will only reach 294 which is the difference
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Here are other benchmarks: http://www.areamobile.de/handys/2591-htc-desire-hd/testbericht (german):
HTC Desire HD
Sunspider Benchmark 4261 ms
Google V8 Benchmark v5 420 pts
Quadrant Benchmark 1675 pts
Samsung Galaxy S
Sunspider Benchmark 16321 ms
Google V8 Benchmark v5 70,7 pts
Quadrant Benchmark 871 pts
Apple iPhone 4
Sunspider Benchmark 10804 ms
Google V8 Benchmark v5 85,4 Punkte
Quadrant Benchmark -
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on that website it says that the htc desire hd has a front camera has it ?
Does it ?? i thinbk it doesnt but ...
faddys123 said:
on that website it says that the htc desire hd has a front camera has it ?
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They made a mistake i suppose. It does not have a front cam.
i think they run quadrant more than one time to achieve these score
Thats excellent, even with HTC Sense enabled.
Also ALOT
eXDee said:
Thats excellent, even with HTC Sense enabled.
Also ALOT
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Yep , imagine what some awesome devs could do with this
~1600 in quadrant seems resonable for the desire HD ..... anyone worrying it will be a beast ...... one more thing
768MB RAM !!!
Quadrant scores are higher directly after reboot.
On lagfixed SGS it can be a difference similiar to this when comparing directly after boot results with results of some hours later.
I love to see all the SGS users coming on this board saying this beast is not gonna be that much better, this definitely proves otherwise, just accept it,
The SGS has rubbish battery life, crap build quality, non existant GPS... The best thing about the phone is the S-AMOLED screen, and thats it!
Desire HD FTW
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JD
Just For Comparison (the first SGS benchmark looks to have been on 2.1 so not a fair test)
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GalaxyS (GT-i9000) on latest 2.2 build |
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Sunspider Benchmark --- 8085 ms
Google V8 --- 259 pts
Quadrant --- 1005 pts
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HTC Desire HD
Sunspider Benchmark 4261 ms
Google V8 Benchmark v5 420 pts
Quadrant Benchmark 1675 pts
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looking at that the desire HD is slightly ahead of the Galaxy S. But only time will tell only a few days to go now :-D eeek
The whole world is going to see either SGS froyo can beat nexus one with froyo on stock rom without lagfixes...
Out of the box or stock is a point for any phone, how much it can be pushed by developers is another point.. The one that wins on both point is the winner..
Hopefully samsung will do it right this time..
I have a GalaxyS atm and the H/W is top notch and i cant fault it ... but samsungs S/W team have a long way to go befor they are any real thret to HTC . . .
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I have a GalaxyS atm and the H/W is top notch and i cant fault it ... but samsungs S/W team have a long way to go befor they are any real thret to HTC . . .
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indeed.. SGS is a superb powerhouse.. it lacks on userXP and UI.. Eventhough HTC does not grant phone with the best specs, but they balanced it up with a great software.. and the devs love HTC too
More results
img545.imageshack.us/img545/9767/benchmarkpro.jpg
youtube.com/watch?v=BJWOznNUfow
So is it true that froyo doesn't really have much different effect on SGS? Does anyone have a picture showing quadrant result for the Desire HD and SGS froyo stock?
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So is it true that froyo doesn't really have much different effect on SGS? Does anyone have a picture showing quadrant result for the Desire HD and SGS froyo stock?
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The problem here is Samsung totally cocked up the Froyo and yesterday removed it from the Scandinavian servers.
Part of the removal was they were not happy with the reg-hack but a lot is to do with Froyo underperforming on the SGS.
Samsung are letting the SGS down badly.
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The problem here is Samsung totally cocked up the Froyo and yesterday removed it from the Scandinavian servers.
Part of the removal was they were not happy with the reg-hack but a lot is to do with Froyo underperforming on the SGS.
Samsung are letting the SGS down badly.
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Samsung let the SGS down from the start - fix the lag, GPS, some other things I've forgotten, and you would have a great phone. They got the hard stuff right, and all the easier stuff completely wrong.
SGS2 VS SGS CM7 for speed. I am very interested in this. I find CM7s speed to be instant in most cases. Is the SGS2 still faster by a big margin? Would be nice if i could hear opinion from those that had both sgs1 and sgs2.
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jay_993 said:
SGS2 VS SGS CM7 for speed. I am very interested in this. I find CM7s speed to be instant in most cases. Is the SGS2 still faster by a big margin? Would be nice if i could hear opinion from those that had both sgs1 and sgs2.
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As far as speed, stability and batterylife goes, my stock unrooted SGS2 knocks my old cm7-sgs out of the game. Simply put, its awesome.
PS: Can't wait to put CM7 on it though
SGS II will be better as it has better hardware - e.g. dual core processor, more memory etc
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As far as speed, stability and batterylife goes, my stock unrooted SGS2 knocks my old cm7-sgs out of the game. Simply put, its awesome.
PS: Can't wait to put CM7 on it though
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Wow i cant imagine how fast it is...
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jay_993 said:
SGS2 VS SGS CM7 for speed. I am very interested in this. I find CM7s speed to be instant in most cases. Is the SGS2 still faster by a big margin? Would be nice if i could hear opinion from those that had both sgs1 and sgs2.
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remember, most people test speed by how fast quadrant runs. Best thing to do is to test them both yourself.
is cm7 really that much faster than normal SGS (not 2) ?
is no way that sgs will be faster then sgs2..
sgs with 1 core sgs 2 with dual core...
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is cm7 really that much faster than normal SGS (not 2) ?
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Not really. It's faster, but not like WAY FASTER.
CM7 is not much quicker than for example JVP. I ran both for quite some time now and I think I'll stick with sammy rom since I want to be able to take 720p video's and use fm radio.
Also battery life is a bit of a deal breaker for me.
OT. Sure sgs2 will be faster especially when sgs2+cm7 (when available)
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is cm7 really that much faster than normal SGS (not 2) ?
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It was much faster until gingerbread, now the difference is not significant IMHO
i wondered and tried, i guess there is no big difference.. besides i believe the main difference comes with a good optimized software.. sgs 2 should be %45-50 faster than sgs on hardware but i think its rom is better optimized than sgs rom..
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CM7 is not much quicker than for example JVP. I ran both for quite some time now and I think I'll stick with sammy rom since I want to be able to take 720p video's and use fm radio.
Also battery life is a bit of a deal breaker for me.
OT. Sure sgs2 will be faster especially when sgs2+cm7 (when available)
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I switched from JVP to MIUI, then to CM7.
MIUI is faster and smoother as JVP in everyway, but CM7 is not fast, it is instant. Test your Phone app after boot with JVP. I got sometimes 2 seconds latency.
The worst battery life has MIUI with its heavy UI.
With CM7 I got still a faster phone at 800 MHz. This is so amazing, I could not even believe it by myself.
Battery is running easly over 1 day with the current CM7 nightly.
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I switched from JVP to MIUI, then to CM7.
MIUI is faster and smoother as JVP in everyway, but CM7 is not fast, it is instant. Test your Phone app after boot with JVP. I got sometimes 2 seconds latency.
The worst battery life has MIUI with its heavy UI.
With CM7 I got still a faster phone at 800 MHz. This is so amazing, I could not even believe it by myself.
Battery is running easly over 1 day with the current CM7 nightly.
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Thats why i used the word instant on op as well
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mr_at_sgs said:
I switched from JVP to MIUI, then to CM7.
MIUI is faster and smoother as JVP in everyway, but CM7 is not fast, it is instant. Test your Phone app after boot with JVP. I got sometimes 2 seconds latency.
The worst battery life has MIUI with its heavy UI.
With CM7 I got still a faster phone at 800 MHz. This is so amazing, I could not even believe it by myself.
Battery is running easly over 1 day with the current CM7 nightly.
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Haven't tried JVP. But, tbh , never noticed that much speed difference between CM7 and stock GB.
However, stock GB, seemed to lag over a period of time, which didn't happen for me in CM7, while I was using it.
I have tried Galaxy S 2 (two models), one (probably because it already had quite a few apps and data), was not very smooth , esp. noticeable when loading gallery (took around 4s)...
The other one was super smooth and much faster than CM7..
I think my Sgs phone is quicker than my mates SGS II when using galician kernel at 1.4Ghz, man its quick
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It was much faster until gingerbread, now the difference is not significant IMHO
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Best description.
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Oh.. I would love to have SGS2.. Viewing its speed in compare with speedest SGS... Like i7 vs Core2Duo ...
get new life on your SGS with the galaxian kernel, and wait for SGS III early 2012, rumoured to have dual core 2Ghz cores, nfc, whoaa, will replace your laptop
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get new life on your SGS with the galaxian kernel, and wait for SGS III early 2012, rumoured to have dual core 2Ghz cores, nfc, whoaa, will replace your laptop
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How amazing would it be if the so called SGS3 was as hackable as an hd2!
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Haven't tried JVP. But, tbh , never noticed that much speed difference between CM7 and stock GB.
However, stock GB, seemed to lag over a period of time, which didn't happen for me in CM7, while I was using it.
I have tried Galaxy S 2 (two models), one (probably because it already had quite a few apps and data), was not very smooth , esp. noticeable when loading gallery (took around 4s)...
The other one was super smooth and much faster than CM7..
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To be more precise, Stock Samsung ROMs are fast after install. But with a lot of apps installed there is too less memory, because mostly usefull apps are reserving memory space in background. If I use aggressive memory configurations some important apps like launcher, phone and contact are thrown out of memory. This occurs also if I delete some crap at system. With Froyo this issue wasn't so much present like with Gingerbread.
Guys i have good news the samsung galaxy sl gets more quadrant than the S
on same tweaks
proof:watch this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXk84fKXAVQ&feature=colike
o f.... I have to commit suicide
same specs on both but diffrent gpu/cpu, and honestly i prefer super amoled before super lcd
sl did not had a lock on gps - the gps icon blinked on both = gps deamon was still searching fix means you gd preloaded location on sl - changing ntp server basicly does not impact gps performance
galaxy s on some shoots seems to have autobrighteness on so screen goes darker
Galaxy sl is trim down version of galaxy s i9000 so even if it gets 100000 quadrant score still it can't beat super amoled screen and hummingbird processor in real world
No both were at full brightness it's an unbiased review we in the end we conclude that s is better but i was surprised sl got a better score in quadrant
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i would like to see cfbench runed on both - ofc clean phone, latest stock firmware no rooting no kernels nothin
and a real gps test comparisment of both lined on window ledge (because none will fix indoors) with wirless networks aiding deactivated
best would be first gps run after flashing stock firmwares for both
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i would like to see cfbench runed on both - ofc clean phone, latest stock firmware no rooting no kernels nothin
and a real gps test comparisment of both lined on window ledge (because none will fix indoors) with wirless networks aiding deactivated
best would be first gps run after flashing stock firmwares for both
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Check my signature for part 1 which has stock firmware test
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ok so the quadrant score on second was boosted by well known tweaks to boost quadrant score - well useless test then =)
anyways i would like to se cfbench on both and a real gps test, still you have blinking gps icon = that means no fix
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ok so the quadrant score on second was boosted by well known tweaks to boost quadrant score - well useless test then =)
anyways i would like to se cfbench on both and a real gps test, still you have blinking gps icon = that means no fix
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In the first the sl had a beta gingerbread tom which had a bug where quadrant and other application never made use of,in the second a fixed firmware is used and cf root is applied on both, if u still have trouble believing me FYI the slowly uses a omap similar to the droid x,as we all know a stock droid x has been getting a better score than the s you can observe that in the comparison chart by quadrant,as with your query ill be making a part 3 soon with cf bench.
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and please not root at all - cfroot also aplies some tuning on the flash
just pure stock
Oh my god, it's such a dumb-a$$ rewiev, bad english and even worse cam. And it's all just a difference in the firmware. If you trimm the galaxy with a custom rom and may overclock your phone to 1,6ghz then you will get 3600+ in quadrant, does it matter? no, quadrant isnt a real benchmark with that you can compare a phone, its just image, nothin less.
And the sgsl has a super-lcd screen, which totally sucks true story Super-AMOLED ist the superior type of display.
It's quadrant... It doesn't mean anything.
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Oh my god, it's such a dumb-a$$ rewiev, bad english and even worse cam. And it's all just a difference in the firmware. If you trimm the galaxy with a custom rom and may overclock your phone to 1,6ghz then you will get 3600+ in quadrant, does it matter? no, quadrant isnt a real benchmark with that you can compare a phone, its just image, nothin less.
And the sgsl has a super-lcd screen, which totally sucks true story Super-AMOLED ist the superior type of display.
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Quadrant does not mean anything,did you watch the whole video?,galaxy s was the winner in the end,as with my accent im sorry for the inconvenience.
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but still i would like to see cfbench numbers =)
Install latest clean rom on both devices and compare browsing speed, games apps ,and than upload a video
alexx910 said:
Oh my god, it's such a dumb-a$$ rewiev, bad english and even worse cam. And it's all just a difference in the firmware. If you trimm the galaxy with a custom rom and may overclock your phone to 1,6ghz then you will get 3600+ in quadrant, does it matter? no, quadrant isnt a real benchmark with that you can compare a phone, its just image, nothin less.
And the sgsl has a super-lcd screen, which totally sucks true story Super-AMOLED ist the superior type of display.
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I guess you are the only guy who thing Cannon EOS D7 is a "worse cam"
Its one of the best DSLR out there!!
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It's quadrant... It doesn't mean anything.
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this. this and this.
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Quadrant does not mean anything,did you watch the whole video?,galaxy s was the winner in the end,as with my accent im sorry for the inconvenience.
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Well dude, sry for being so unfriendly Wasnt meant that way Of course you could improve your english a bit by stayin in contact with english-speaking people Thats my way to improve the language.
But actually its all up to the firmware of the phone. one year ago sgs was so bad in quadrant. It had always something about 800-1000 points. Not more. But with some work on the firmware by the sammy dev's they improved the jit compiler and now the phone beats even the nexus one and so on on the scale. I had my phone powered up to 3600 score with using darkys rom and a great kernel (1,6ghz). But actually it doesnt really matter...
The most important thing is, that you can use your phone as you want If your sgsl doesnt lag, its great. But the development is a little bit slow atm.
ciao dude
Yawns, I enjoy my Galaxy S gingerbread speed. If it'd go any faster, I'd have to run (and recharge the phone even more often).
Hi! i made a benchmark on the hd2 both with android froyo and ics hwa and i noticed that the rom with the higest point is the froyo one! i got 1100 for the ics and ~1400 for the froyo one, wich beated also the nexus s.
this is really strange because the gaming performances of froyo are terrible (i had ~2-3 fps with gta3), and it's also slow with the sense 2 homescreen management.
is this normal? thanks
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Hi! i made a benchmark on the hd2 both with android froyo and ics hwa and i noticed that the rom with the higest point is the froyo one! i got 1100 for the ics and ~1400 for the froyo one, wich beated also the nexus s.
this is really strange because the gaming performances of froyo are terrible (i had ~2-3 fps with gta3), and it's also slow with the sense 2 homescreen management.
is this normal? thanks
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Were both ROMs nand or SD? Cause the difference could be in the io speeds. You should post screen shots of both results
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Yes it's normal because the phone devotes more resources to hwa, which is what makes your games fast. Phones get relatively lower quadrant score on ics. So it's not accurate to compare it if you changed os version. If you want, you can easily boost the score by ~1000 by installing data2sd, but you need a good SD card to feel the difference yourself.
cuzzo94 said:
Hi! i made a benchmark on the hd2 both with android froyo and ics hwa and i noticed that the rom with the higest point is the froyo one! i got 1100 for the ics and ~1400 for the froyo one, wich beated also the nexus s.
this is really strange because the gaming performances of froyo are terrible (i had ~2-3 fps with gta3), and it's also slow with the sense 2 homescreen management.
is this normal? thanks
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Really?! Just goes to show, benchmarks aren't a valid way of proving speed. Perhaps it is as hengsheng120 said due to the HWA or something. Either way, ICS is definitely faster than Froyo.
yes as said, for me too ics is faster thank froyo, i just wasn't sure of the reason of this gap.
i don't think that it wold make any difference installing data2sd because of my old sd.
i agree with who thinks that hwa is making this difference, and that is an invalid information to compare OS's. ics is certainly faster with scrolling (the web browsing it's awesome) and 3d.
thank you all and sorry for my english XD
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yes as said, for me too ics is faster thank froyo, i just wasn't sure of the reason of this gap.
i don't think that it wold make any difference installing data2sd because of my old sd.
i agree with who thinks that hwa is making this difference, and that is an invalid information to compare OS's. ics is certainly faster with scrolling (the web browsing it's awesome) and 3d.
thank you all and sorry for my english XD
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Actually, your English is pretty good. Yeah, even if I could get a score of 10000 on Froyo I'd never consider ditching ICS for it
yes while using them you can clearly see that ics beats froyo all the way XD
As you can see our phone is still good ;D
http://youtu.be/ze5z8grcXhU
more info here: http://blog.gsmarena.com/qualcomm-latest-ad-targets-intels-new-atom-processor/
Cool I'd love a topic on power efficiency of both chips though, probably a threaded single core vs 2 arm cores.
Just Shocked .. When i Saw Arc S in the Video..running ICS
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i have an arc and google nav has never loaded that quickly, and i just loaded that webpage after a bit of stuttering trying to zoom the browser force closed! someone with an arc s have a try
Who knows what they've put in that Arc S chassis.
My ICS is as smooth as shown in the video
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My ICS is as smooth as shown in the video
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Me too LOL JJ remix are cool)
I don't know.... I don't remember my arc s being THAT fast running official sony ics. I only get that kind of performance on tweaked custom roms with supercharger!
Idonot think that i will give up my arc S for any -i- or what ever phone!i mean it eoriesmjurisdic