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[Poll] Build quality survey, please participate ...

Hi,
If you own a Nexus S, please tell us about your phone.
How many times you have exchanged your phone until you got a perfect one?
If you exchanged it, tell us why? What kind of problem did you get?
If you were asked, "In terms of build quality, what is the worst part?"
With this poll, we could get a rough picture about how well the manufacture / production of Nexus S, Samsung QA, those kind of things.
Thanks.

First in line, first Nexus s, perfect phone, no issues.
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nxt said:
First in line, first Nexus s, perfect phone, no issues.
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Same here. The only "problem" with my NS is the home button backlight is not as bright as the others.

First Nexus S, no issues whatsoever. I was very surprised since I went through three G2s(okay hinge, worst hinge, meh hinge) and three MT4Gs(bad screen, no update/bad reception, bad screen) that I ultimately ended ditching for this phone.
If asked what's the worst part of the build quality, I'd say the lack of texture coating to help the phone from feeling so slick.
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first in line, first phone, best phone,
i love him so much..*pets nexi*

unknown.soul said:
Same here. The only "problem" with my NS is the home button backlight is not as bright as the others.
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I too noticed that with my home button.
I've had the NS for 4 days and my battery life doesn't feel like its getting any better but I have used the phone constantly. I get about 5-7 hours usage before charge required again. That's around 15-30 percent.
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First phone. No issues whatsoever .

Mine works okay except cellular radio problem, but hopefully it'll be fixed through future radio ROM update.

mingkee said:
Mine works okay except cellular radio problem, but hopefully it'll be fixed through future radio ROM update.
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what is wrong/what do u think is a problem

First phone and no issues.

Much improved over Vibrant. So that is gingerbread over TMo 2.1. Also better than my MT4G, it seems to find its ffc. But rooted/OCLF Vibrant blows over 2k on Quadrant and both HTC phones are up 6db on WiFi sensitivity from both Samsung phones. OTA on SNS seems very good though. Already got first OTA update on SNS!! No TMo klepto wear dragging me down. Wow, Skype, Fring Tango seem to work. Now need to root and get edge and a prepaid SIM card. Only Navigon won't load on SNS but does on all others Inc. SG Tab.
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First phone here also,not seeing any of the problems mentioned in this forum. Bought in UK.
Very nice phone and certainly the best android phone I've used out of desire, desire HD, galaxy s. Very. Impressed with battery, crucifies all previously mentioned in this department.

Second phone. Had to replace first one due to back button being unsensitive like other buttons. Also noticed gsensor is quite jumpy in readings. Trying to understand if this is also hardware error.
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2nd phone - first went back because of the fast battery drain and unresponsive back button.
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XBOHDPuKC said:
2nd phone - first went back because of the fast battery drain and unresponsive back button.
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How fast of a drain? I recently feel my battery drains quite fast.
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I had mine exchanged. Had the metal piece from earpiece crooked and one corner was raised higher than the phones' glass.
GPS reception is horrible on this device however. I can be driving and it randomly loses signal.
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First phone..have not had one hardware issue with it..overall favorite phone ive owned and I've had A LOT!!..
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bogdi1988 said:
I had mine exchanged. Had the metal piece from earpiece crooked and one corner was raised higher than the phones' glass.
GPS reception is horrible on this device however. I can be driving and it randomly loses signal.
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I have actually found GPS on this phone to be quite nice i get a fast lock and its always within 5-20 meters... coming from the captivate im extremely happy with the GPS!!..

TheKenAnthony said:
I have actually found GPS on this phone to be quite nice i get a fast lock and its always within 5-20 meters... coming from the captivate im extremely happy with the GPS!!..
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I think most or all of the U.S. SGS variants had really bad GPS on a lot of phones. I know I came to the Nexus S from Vibrant and it is insane how much better it is.

slowz3r said:
what is wrong/what do u think is a problem
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The cellular radio freezes when being under no signal condition (subway in underground) for more than about 10 minutes. That the phone is no longer to get signal even the train goes to surface or I get off the station.
I have to power cycle the phone in order to make cellular radio works again.
Wifi and BT aren't affected.
Here is the related thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=882518

Wifi performance.

I used to own an Atrix and got rid of it because of the Wifi performance and a couple of other minor things. I'm wondering though, if I loaded a custom rom, could it literally improve the Wifi performance?
On my Inspire, the Wifi strength got better when I loaded cm7. Has anyone that's loaded cm7 on their Atrix noticed an improvement in Wifi performance?
I would literally have to hold the Atrix in landscape orientation to pick up signal at work where my iPhone 4 and Inspire can pick it up regularly.
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I'd have to say that your particular phone had a problem. Mine has awesome wifi strength. Way better than my Tilt2 or iPhone 3GS....and way faster since it's "n".

Maybe I should use the term range not performance.
I had 3 different Atrix's and they had the same range and were all dead in the same spots.
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Haven't noticed a difference in roms and wifi performance....
My 3gs hasvway better range then ny ATRIX ... so sad.
Still ... its not an issue since I have pretty good 3g coverage in my area.
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Yes, unfortunately the atrix wifi range isn't that good. I have trouble picking up signal where others do so easily.
I wonder if the antenna is too small... would it be possible to "embed" a wire inside the back cover and connect it to the regular antenna to create a makeshift range extender?
Edit: iI think the phone's radio has influence over wifi reception, but it can only go so far. Might not be 'improveable' as much as we'd like to.

s1mpd1ddy said:
Haven't noticed a difference in roms and wifi performance....
My 3gs hasvway better range then ny ATRIX ... so sad.
Still ... its not an issue since I have pretty good 3g coverage in my area.
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Very sad yes. I work in a lead lined building and have no service whatsoever, I completely rely on Wifi.
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That'd be your particular device's problem. Atrix got best wifi performance IMHO. Very fast and responsive. SpeedTest.net results shows that with the wifi at my home, my XT720 returns a speed of 7~8 Mbps where Atrix always returns 12~16 Mbps of speed.

I'd say the reduction in range is due to the improvement in speed.
My Atrix get's my wifi signal about 20m through 4-5 concrete walls, occasionally I've also noticed it get's it through 3 levels in my apartment building, though I don't have anything else to compare it too.

seh6183 said:
Maybe I should use the term range not performance.
I had 3 different Atrix's and they had the same range and were all dead in the same spots.
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I doubt a ROM will significantly improve the wifi range on the Atrix, more of hardware thing IMO.
Same behavior for me at work too. My old BB 8900 can hold onto the weak wifi signal (around 80-90dbm) better than my Atrix. If I run too much data on wifi on the Atrix, the wifi will throw too many errors and disconnect. I ran logcat to see all of the fun stuff going on to figure this out.
Fortunately work is upgrading the wireless network soon .

There has been several radio firmware packages released since you got rid of yours I think. The latest AT&T one (1.77.30P) definitelly made things better all around for me.
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beatphreek said:
There has been several radio firmware packages released since you got rid of yours I think. The latest AT&T one (1.77.30P) definitelly made things better all around for me.
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I wish there was a way to test this without going out and buying a phone.
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seh6183 said:
I wish there was a way to test this without going out and buying a phone.
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The new radio helps the range a little vs the radio in 2.2.2 for me. The wifi disconnects less frequently, but it still disconnects from time to time. If you rely solely on wifi it's not worth it IMO.

My wifi is awesome and all I have are access to g routers. Speed and distance.
I voided my warranty and your mum.

gnahc79 said:
The new radio helps the range a little vs the radio in 2.2.2 for me. The wifi disconnects less frequently, but it still disconnects from time to time. If you rely solely on wifi it's not worth it IMO.
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I agree. Thank you for the info.
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RAZR HD's radio versus your previous phone...

I have a Rezound and it's radio held on to a LTE signal a lot better than my RAZR Maxx HD.. Could it be due to the way HTC implemented the Rezound's antenna in the battery cover, could be... Although when I have a strong signal with the RAZR HD, the through-put speeds are greater on speed tests. More side-by-side testing before I make my decision on whether I keep this new toy....
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Which antenna? 1x/3G or 4G? I was testing Razr M and it lost 10dbm in 4G just from getting picked up. 3G was hardly affected and voice was rock solid. Looking at the two side by side in the store, the Maxx HD didn't have that issue.

The Razr HD would drop 4G LTE and fall back to 3G in building and driving down on the highway. Same exact places with the Rezound 4G LTE never drops. Side by side on 4G, there is a 10-15 dBm difference..
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Jay A whY said:
I have a Rezound and it's radio held on to a LTE signal a lot better than my RAZR Maxx HD.. Could it be due to the way HTC implemented the Rezound's antenna in the battery cover, could be... Although when I have a strong signal with the RAZR HD, the through-put speeds are greater on speed tests. More side-by-side testing before I make my decision on whether I keep this new toy....
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Out of all of Verizon's 4G phones I've used/reviewed (which is all of them) the HTC Rezound still has the best 4G reception in my opinion.
Inside my house, most phones will cycle between 4G & 3G depending on what room you are in, and others (like the HTC Thunderbolt and Samsung Galaxy Nexus) won't get 4G at all. But the HTC Rezound stays on 4G. From what I heard a while back, HTC didn't want a repeat of the Thunderbolt with 4G issues, so they redesigned the antenna and increase the power to it.
With the RAZR HD and Galaxy S III here, both of those do have the 4G/3G cycling in my house, but the RAZR HD is still pulling a better signal around -112dBm with the GS3 at -116dBm.
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dandar said:
Which antenna? 1x/3G or 4G? I was testing Razr M and it lost 10dbm in 4G just from getting picked up. 3G was hardly affected and voice was rock solid. Looking at the two side by side in the store, the Maxx HD didn't have that issue.
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When looking at the dBm numbers, 4G at the 700MHz spectrum will be about 22dBm less than 1X or 3G 800/1900MHz. This was discussed in another tread, where the guy went into great detail about how the signal is measured by phones.
So for example, if your connected to the same Verizon tower with voice, 3G, and 4G, you might show -90dBm for 1X voice or 3G data, but -112dBm for 4G.

Just did another test via "Phone info" app
Rezound = -76 dBm / 8 ASU
RAZR Max HD = -98 dBm / 43 ASU
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Same thing here when comparing my Maxx HD to the Rezound. I notice a 15 to 20 dbm difference side by side with the Rez holding a 4g signal indoors while the Maxx drops to 3g. Glad I am not the only one who noticed this as I was ready to return the Maxx as defective. Anyone else with weaker than expected signals? Otherwise love love love this phone. Even an iPhone 4 user commented how nice this is.
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I really like Razr Maxx HD! The build quality is the best I've seen in a long time and battery life is second to none.
I just wished I never had the Rezound, so I wouldn't know what a real radio is suppose to be like..
..... the jury is still out, should I keep my New Moto?!
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At least from my perspective, I can tell you that the radio in this phone is better than the one in my Thunderbolt...Everything is better than my Thunderbolt...:good:

I'm really enjoying the Motorola Razr HD Maxx, It's a really great phone. As far as the radio, the only other Verizon LTE phones I used have been this one, the s iii, gnex, and the iPhone 5. In terms of radio, I think the Razr has the best the signal of the 4 I used with the the iPhone coming in a close second. The gnex signal for me was not that great compared to the other phones. But I'm really thinking long and hard whether or not to keep the device or not. Moto tracked record for not updating devices is well known. I know they said the phone will get a jelly bean update, but remember how long the original droid Razr take to get ICS? I mean they were advertising ICS upgradable when the phone came out. My second concern is the hardware the phone was released with, I originally got this phone for the all day battery life and so far it's been serving that purpose. Btw I love the new moto skin, feel real close to stock and the tweaks they made complement the phone well. But releasing the phone with a single gb of ram and dual core s4 to me leaving a lot to be desired, had the phone came the summer that just passed, I wouldn't think twice of not recommending this phone to someone over a s iii or hox. I think this phone could been moto chance to shine ahead of the other oems had they put 2gb ram,s4 pro and keeping that huge battery. I know the hardware specs dont matter that much untill there software thats optmized well enough to run smooth on.That would off been a phone to definitely hold me over a 2 year contract agreement and rival the competition for a awhile. But fortunate for me, I don't really lock myself into contracts, I mostly just buy outright . I have untill the 1st of November to decide whether or not to keep the phone or not. Been considering the note ii, If The Verizon model comes out before November 1, I'll definitely switch.

I came from the galaxy nexus and i'm much happier with the razr hd maxx. the MUCH improved battery life alone gives me an e-boner and moto's skin atop of ICS isn't too bad. the radio is also much better than the g'nexus and the build quality is awesome!

shock2sys said:
I came from the galaxy nexus and i'm much happier with the razr hd maxx. the MUCH improved battery life alone gives me an e-boner and moto's skin atop of ICS isn't too bad. the radio is also much better than the g'nexus and the build quality is awesome!
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I've also ditched my G'nex. I've had my RAZR HD MAXX for a couple of days now and am loving the hardware. There is a big difference in radio quality. My Bionic owned the G'Nex in signal reception as well.

Hi,
Same reception as my Galaxy S3 little better,
Razr HD GSM version on 2G and 3G networks

Rezound and Incredible 4G hold a usable 4G connection better than any device I've had (and I've had almost all of them). However, the Maxx HD (and original Maxx for that matter) are second in my experience.
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I have pretty much had every verizon 4g phone but most recently I came from the GS3 and at home and work the signal is almost identical which is a complement to the GS3.. although unlike the GS3 I can actually use GPS to locate me and use navigation if needed..
At my house the 4G -dbm signal can go into the-70's so any phone does good at my house
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lazarus2297 said:
I have pretty much had every verizon 4g phone but most recently I came from the GS3 and at home and work the signal is almost identical which is a complement to the GS3.. although unlike the GS3 I can actually use GPS to locate me and use navigation if needed..
At my house the 4G -dbm signal can go into the-70's so any phone does good at my house
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There is a fix for the GS3 GPS
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1880411&highlight=gps
Download the Galaxy S III Test 2 zip file listed in post 1, then follow the instructions in post 2. It worked for me.

I sold the GS3.. but all the same I hate having to apply a "fix" for something that should work out of the box...
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Jay A whY said:
I have a Rezound and it's radio held on to a LTE signal a lot better than my RAZR Maxx HD.. Could it be due to the way HTC implemented the Rezound's antenna in the battery cover, could be... Although when I have a strong signal with the RAZR HD, the through-put speeds are greater on speed tests. More side-by-side testing before I make my decision on whether I keep this new toy....
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Great deal!

gwhaley said:
I've also ditched my G'nex. I've had my RAZR HD MAXX for a couple of days now and am loving the hardware. There is a big difference in radio quality.
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Same here. Still flashing ROMs on the GNex for grins, but loving my rooted MAXX HD. Battery and build are amazing.

So I got a replacement last night due to the the previous phone kept cycling from 4G to 3G and then loosing signal all together. The replacement is doing the same (So the previous phone was not defective, second phone confirms it for now). So I decided to force set the phone to LTE only and man this radio is a champ! I got LTE coverage on a rural two lane highway in Colorado (Highway 83, 20+ mile stretch, Castlewood State Park to Black Forest @ 60mph) where I normally couldn't with my Rezound... LTE only dropped twice, but reestablished connection promptly.. Download speeds ranged from 6mb - 50mb, upload speeds 256kb - 25mb.. This phone is a keeper!
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How are you forcing it to stay in 4g?

[Q] Anyone one else think the radio on the Nexus 4 is sub par?

I've definitely noticed a decrease in service compared to my previous phones, especially the T-Mobile Galaxy SIII. I'm not sure if its poor Radio firmware, or the materials, but it's a noticeable drop. Using a signal booster in my house, I used to get full bars in my bathroom just two rooms away on the GSIII. The Nexus 4 barely gets 1.
Anyone else having issues, and does anyone know if newer radio firmware will be released soon?

feels the same for me, if not better than my galaxy nexus.

Yeah, my connection cuts out quite frequently. It's pretty annoying

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Yeah, my connection cuts out quite frequently. It's pretty annoying
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I can't really compare how my reception is with my nexus since I am on a new provider, but I did notice something odd with how many bars I have. I assume there is some kind of battery saving function because when I am not really using data I will see 3G, as soon as I use data though it will switch to H. But what I noticed is when I am on 3G I will have like 2 bars service, but when the phone switches over to H I have full or close to it..
Maybe thats normal just thought it was odd?

ogrillion said:
I can't really compare how my reception is with my nexus since I am on a new provider, but I did notice something odd with how many bars I have. I assume there is some kind of battery saving function because when I am not really using data I will see 3G, as soon as I use data though it will switch to H. But what I noticed is when I am on 3G I will have like 2 bars service, but when the phone switches over to H I have full or close to it..
Maybe thats normal just thought it was odd?
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Normal. Saves data. That's how T-mobile does it. Not sure about the bar part, unless it's switching towers for some reason? Ha.
Ordered my Nexus 4 on the 13th. Still waiting.

Yes it's noticeably worse than any other smartphone I've owned.
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In my case, it's the opposite. It's the best smartphone in terms of service quality. maybe because I'm in Belgium !

VoiD_Dweller said:
Yes it's noticeably worse than any other smartphone I've owned.
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Weren't you the one that dropped yours in the toilet? If so I don't think you qualify anymore for bug reports
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I seem to be having the same reception problem the iPhone 4 had, namely that when I hold the phone, I lose reception.
Flat on desk: -82dBm
Fingers on either side of phone, still flat on desk: -99dBm.
Is anyone else getting the same phenomenon or is it just me? I wanna do a replacement if it's just me, but if it's something that everyone is experiencing, then I'll live with it.

I notice 2 things, 1) in general the reception is lower (4bars with my sensation/hd2 = 3bars on my n4) but I haven't done any real testing so it could be the bars are incorrect 2) big death grip problem, as soon as I grab the phone the reception drops and can cause a call to drop
For the most part I get good reception but yeah in certain parts of the house the phone is unusable.

I wonder if a simple bumper fix will do
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h.nocturna said:
I seem to be having the same reception problem the iPhone 4 had, namely that when I hold the phone, I lose reception.
Flat on desk: -82dBm
Fingers on either side of phone, still flat on desk: -99dBm.
Is anyone else getting the same phenomenon or is it just me? I wanna do a replacement if it's just me, but if it's something that everyone is experiencing, then I'll live with it.
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Same, going from -77 to -85dBm
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Keep in mind that bars mean nothing. Check the dBm / asu, the lower the better. Over ~110 things get dicey/unusable.
When I had my N4 on AT&T, it got better reception than my Capitvate and Atrix 2. I'm on T-Mobile now, and I'm still experimenting.

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I have a tpu case on mine and it hasn't made a difference, actually the thing that works for me is switching to 2G + wifi when I'm home and of course 3G when out and about, I just wish nfc task launcher or tasker could access that "toggle" on the stock rom.

Hi
Different phone different reception patterns. No two phones will be exactly the same in terms of their signal strength, you might find an improvement compared to a previous phone, you might find it is worse, most will see no difference and it's very dependant on environment. I've seen no difference personally. Given some time and feedback from various carriers can improve things with radio updates, such as the phone being more or less aggressive in switching between cells, or protocol fixes that help prevent drop outs during higher error rates when the signal is lower and cleaner/quicker hand-off to adjacent cells.
It should be noted the main antenna is at the bottom of the phone like most mobiles these days, so holding it at the bottom cupped in the palm of your hand will see the signal reduce and battery consumption increase as it tries to transmit through flesh. There are diversity antennas towards the top of the phone, but these are for reception only and do not transmit.
A bumper is unlikely to help unless it was extremely large to make the distance between a hand and the antenna several inches! The iPhone was a different issue, it was because the antennas were not insulated and were being de-tuned and shorted by being touched when the phone was held.
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Phil

Verizon G2 signal

I've had my Verizon LG G2 for four days. It seems that the phone data signal mostly stays at 1-2 bars. It's mainly on 4G, but there are times that it drops to 3G, even 1X. I have run side by side tests with an S4 where its signal icon is at least a bar higher and is always on 4G.
Does the G2 have a weaker antenna than the S4? Or could I have a faulty phone?
Here's another thing, MMS messages seems to take between 30-45 seconds to send. I am a new Verizon subscriber, but when I was on Sprint my phones rarely took this long to send an MMS. Is the length of time my phone takes to send an MMS normal for Verizon?
Lastly, my phone heats up to the point of getting hot whenever I'm on a call for more than 5 minutes or whenever I send multiple MMS messages. If I took the phone back to the Verizon corp store where it was purchases, would it qualify for a new replacement?
Thanks in advance.

I don't see any of that on mine and the signal is much better than my old GNEX.
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My G2 gets 2-3 bars indoors where I work, where my GNex would struggle just to keep one bar. If I go outside, it gets a full 4-5 bars and good speed too (I hit 43.8 mbps just this afternoon on Speed Test). Granted, the GNex's radio hardware sucked, but I don't find the G2's to be a disappointment at all.
For a better comparison than number of bars, you can go to Settings -> About Phone -> Network -> Network Type and Strength. It breaks it down by 4G (data) and 1X (voice) signals. Numbers closer to zero are better, so for instance -50 dBm is a much better signal than -100 dBm. Not sure where this is on the S4, but it should be in a similar place.

Well I got mine on Wednesday, came from the RAZR maxx HD. I an day mine is much better than the maxx hg. The interior of my building at work I couldn't get a signal with my HD, it would drop to 1x and sometimes no signal. This phone keeps 4g in the same spot. My office with the HD was OK, slow internet but kept 4g. This phone works perfect there too.
I think you have a faulty one.

Be careful comparing different UI's. When I was swapping back and forth between sense and aosp sense showed 5 bars and aosp showed 2 >_>. Artificial Inflation!!!
I actually haven't even made a call or sent an MMS on my G2, so I can't comment on those

Verizon signal on mine seems better than my gs4. I've dropped to 3g only once in the weeks I've had this and that's because there was a huge verizon outage in NJ
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Ya where I work I would get 3g in the middle of the building on the s4 but now on the g2 it is always 4g
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Gnex has 2 bars of 4g, G2 has 3 bars of 3g. Sitting next to each other.
Only bad thing for me.
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trxrider31 said:
Gnex has 2 bars of 4g, G2 has 3 bars of 3g. Sitting next to each other.
Only bad thing for me.
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same network?
also the artificial inflation above. If the 5 bars were more accurate then the 2 bars were off. And thats not just ui, its modem ,rom, phone, tied into circumstances and networks lol. On previous phones I noticed that itsnot as straight forward.
For me reception/in call quality/network speeds on g2 has gotten better then on all previous phones.

On Verizon curently have razr hd and note2. Thinking of G2. So you guys that have had them for awhile how is data reception? My Razr is top notch there but a little slow on everything else. My note2 is fast as lightining but lacks a bit compared to Razr in data reception. Im in a poor coverage area for about 7 months out of the year and need good 3G 4G reception. So how about it how good is the G2? Thanks

wooddale said:
On Verizon curently have razr hd and note2. Thinking of G2. So you guys that have had them for awhile how is data reception? My Razr is top notch there but a little slow on everything else. My note2 is fast as lightining but lacks a bit compared to Razr in data reception. Im in a poor coverage area for about 7 months out of the year and need good 3G 4G reception. So how about it how good is the G2? Thanks
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Just came from a razr, the difference is night and day. In addition, the razr doesn't give accurate measurements of signal. The G2 has been more accurate, has a better signal, and is faster.

crashN2u said:
Just came from a razr, the difference is night and day. In addition, the razr doesn't give accurate measurements of signal. The G2 has been more accurate, has a better signal, and is faster.
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That's really good to here my HD is really good for signal its just hasn't got the power or I should say processor to do the job. I'm unlocked rooted and over clocked to 1890. It works but its really struggling. If the G2 will give me good signal strength its twice the phone my HD is out the box. Thanks.

wooddale said:
That's really good to here my HD is really good for signal its just hasn't got the power or I should say processor to do the job. I'm unlocked rooted and over clocked to 1890. It works but its really struggling. If the G2 will give me good signal strength its twice the phone my HD is out the box. Thanks.
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I thought the signal on my razr was good also, until I got the G2. I have been going to a doctor's office for the last 4 months. My razr would always have 1 bar of 4G, but the speeds were more like evdo. I would always have to jump on the free wifi. My G2 on the other hand has 4G when it says 4G. I don't use the wifi anymore because it's actually slower than 4G.
As for the power, it has easily run everything I've thrown at it. Even programs that slowed my razr almost to a stop. Night and day.
My only real problem with the G2 was the phone call quality. I think it is something that is really skimmed over in most reviews, when it should be a priority. I mean, after all, it is a phone. On the razr, phone calls were clean and clear like I was in the same room or at worst, 1 over. On the G2, calls are more bassy and it sounds like there is some distance between me and the caller, if that makes any sense. I actually feel like I'm on a phone. I do have to ask people to repeat themselves more often, but not so much that it's a hassle. Most of the time call quality is actually pretty good, but after using Motorolas since the OG droid, it just doesn't feel right at times. One good thing, is I occasionally hold the phone between my head and shoulder with very little problems. On the razr, I just couldn't do that comfortably because the callers on the other side wouldn't be able to hear me. Hasn't happened yet with the G2.

crashN2u said:
I thought the signal on my razr was good also, until I got the G2. I have been going to a doctor's office for the last 4 months. My razr would always have 1 bar of 4G, but the speeds were more like evdo. I would always have to jump on the free wifi. My G2 on the other hand has 4G when it says 4G. I don't use the wifi anymore because it's actually slower than 4G.
As for the power, it has easily run everything I've thrown at it. Even programs that slowed my razr almost to a stop. Night and day.
My only real problem with the G2 was the phone call quality. I think it is something that is really skimmed over in most reviews, when it should be a priority. I mean, after all, it is a phone. On the razr, phone calls were clean and clear like I was in the same room or at worst, 1 over. On the G2, calls are more bassy and it sounds like there is some distance between me and the caller, if that makes any sense. I actually feel like I'm on a phone. I do have to ask people to repeat themselves more often, but not so much that it's a hassle. Most of the time call quality is actually pretty good, but after using Motorolas since the OG droid, it just doesn't feel right at times. One good thing, is I occasionally hold the phone between my head and shoulder with very little problems. On the razr, I just couldn't do that comfortably because the callers on the other side wouldn't be able to hear me. Hasn't happened yet with the G2.
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Your really selling me but that's what I like to here not how many KB download I got but where I get 4G now that I didn't get before. That is more of a test of how the phone is working than what it says on a gauge. Going to start getting one tomorrow I don't have an upgrade coming up and it wouldn't matter because I'm on u.limited and font want to loose it so it's full price or probably find a new in box on eBay and save the tx and a bit more. Should be able to pick one up for about $475. Thanks Again.

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On Verizon curently have razr hd and note2. Thinking of G2. So you guys that have had them for awhile how is data reception? My Razr is top notch there but a little slow on everything else. My note2 is fast as lightining but lacks a bit compared to Razr in data reception. Im in a poor coverage area for about 7 months out of the year and need good 3G 4G reception. So how about it how good is the G2? Thanks
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My wife has the razr maxx, I'm coming from the maxx hd. On fringe areas, it's almost the same. This last week, where I was, I could kinda make phone calls, texts are in and out with the G2. I was in the same place a few weeks ago with the maxx hd and it was the exact same. About 2 weeks ago I was in the same place as my wife and hers kept the signal a little longer on the maxx than my G2. And the dbs were a little lower on hers, maybe 5db, indicating a little better service. The G2 does a little better than the maxx hd inside a building tho, it keeps 4g where my maxx didn't at one place at work.
Overall I would say it's a wash I'm my experience. But I use a Bluetooth and the Bluetooth connection is a little better.

wooddale said:
Your really selling me but that's what I like to here not how many KB download I got but where I get 4G now that I didn't get before. That is more of a test of how the phone is working than what it says on a gauge. Going to start getting one tomorrow I don't have an upgrade coming up and it wouldn't matter because I'm on u.limited and font want to loose it so it's full price or probably find a new in box on eBay and save the tx and a bit more. Should be able to pick one up for about $475. Thanks Again.
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I was in the same boat. I got mine on ebay for $508 with the quick window case and screen protectors. Mine was listed as used, but it was better condition than a lot of the so called new ones. Less than an hour of use, compared to new auctions with less than a week of use.

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I was in the same boat. I got mine on ebay for $508 with the quick window case and screen protectors. Mine was listed as used, but it was better condition than a lot of the so called new ones. Less than an hour of use, compared to new auctions with less than a week of use.
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Thanks for your reply started shopping last night. Maybe I can find a good buy it now deal like you font mind paying for it long as its good.
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My wife has the razr maxx, I'm coming from the maxx hd. On fringe areas, it's almost the same. This last week, where I was, I could kinda make phone calls, texts are in and out with the G2. I was in the same place a few weeks ago with the maxx hd and it was the exact same. About 2 weeks ago I was in the same place as my wife and hers kept the signal a little longer on the maxx than my G2. And the dbs were a little lower on hers, maybe 5db, indicating a little better service. The G2 does a little better than the maxx hd inside a building tho, it keeps 4g where my maxx didn't at one place at work.
Overall I would say it's a wash I'm my experience. But I use a Bluetooth and the Bluetooth connection is a little better.
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Thanks started shopping last night if its as good as RAZR that's about all a guy could ask for. I would guess from the specs she should be pretty fast that's one hell of a processor.

wooddale said:
Thanks for your reply started shopping last night. Maybe I can find a good buy it now deal like you font mind paying for it long as its good.
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Actually, I sniped an auction. I have the timing down perfect on the mobile app.

harrychimp said:
I've had my Verizon LG G2 for four days. It seems that the phone data signal mostly stays at 1-2 bars. It's mainly on 4G, but there are times that it drops to 3G, even 1X. I have run side by side tests with an S4 where its signal icon is at least a bar higher and is always on 4G.
Does the G2 have a weaker antenna than the S4? Or could I have a faulty phone?
Here's another thing, MMS messages seems to take between 30-45 seconds to send. I am a new Verizon subscriber, but when I was on Sprint my phones rarely took this long to send an MMS. Is the length of time my phone takes to send an MMS normal for Verizon?
Lastly, my phone heats up to the point of getting hot whenever I'm on a call for more than 5 minutes or whenever I send multiple MMS messages. If I took the phone back to the Verizon corp store where it was purchases, would it qualify for a new replacement?
Thanks in advance.
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I have had the same issue as you all did. I have an old sims card that was in my old droid 4 phone. My coverage kept losing 4g and no matter what I did no 4g in sight. I have a sims card that came with the lg g2 and after a long time of suffering with this problem I called tech support. He tracked down the problem to the sims card I had in the phone. Long story short the problem lies in the old sims card. The old card was primary a 3g card so the device would try to go to 4g and it did on a temp basis but after a 2 to 3 minute period it would never go back to 4g without the reboot. I had tech support check it out and after we activated the proper sims card...poof... all better! The problem lies in the sims card. Call tech support and it will fix your problem. Hope this helps everyone by offering a solution and exposing the problem so everyone understands the issue..