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Will the Incredible be subject to the same N1 3g issues?

Pretty much as topic, not sure if anyone has any first hand experience of it.

higly doubt that since i heard 3g issues were because of tmobile. So far i havent heard of bad reception from the early incredible reviewers but we wont know till its out.

i doubt it... seeing as how the chipset is different(cdma chipset not gsm) and the carrier is different... your results may very tho...
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Sorry I wasnt very specifc, I was thinking in the UK, O2 to be specific. N1 and BBerry Bold 9000 sitting next to each other, N1 on not even half 2G, BBerry on max 3g.

Well considering it won't be released in the UK you'll never know? Why even ask?

Honestly77 said:
Well considering it won't be released in the UK you'll never know? Why even ask?
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I was hoping we would eventually get a UK version, but obviously we've just been shafted with the desire.... WE HAD THE N1 ALREADY WHY GIVE US THE SAME PHONE

Really doubt it. T-Mobile 3G bands require a second Antenna. The Antenna was located at the bottom of the nexus which was a design flaw and thus why 3G was terrible. Not to mention T-Mobile has terrible 3G coverage.

I just made the move from T-mo Nexus one to the Incredible through Verizon.
I had two replacement devices sent to me because of the 3g issues and all the other problems this device was plagued with from day one.
The incredible so far has been perfect. No 3G issues at all.
I am sure that T-mo's 3g coverage was partly to blame but that wasn't the only cause of this problem. With a T-mo G1 and a T-mo Nexus one sitting side by side often the N1 would bounce back and forth between 3g and Edge if it was able to get the 3g at all. This was with all 3 N1's I used. all the while my G1 had a perfect 3g connection.
Not the Incredible. Great phone. Incredibly snappy. Fast 3g through Verizon. No complaints as of yet.
Fingers Crossed...

my friends incredible southern california area has been getting really low 3g signals. im always at full HSDPA bars and he gets 1 or two bars if hes lucky.....
ive also read that a lot of phones has been rebooting randomly on its own, and some speculate on that low signal. you think his phone is defective?

one of the area's the rebooting was happening in (reportedly) was one of the Carolinas (quite a few customers), and Verizon speculated that it had to do with the local towers causing the problem,
Also the signal bar indicator looks to be a software problem, do a comparison of signal strength and you will see what I'm talking about. I looked at 3 different phones that had full bars, mine had only one bar..but when you look at the signal strength it was almost identical.
my major gripe is battery life, but I just ordered the Seidio replacement

Gimpeh said:
Really doubt it. T-Mobile 3G bands require a second Antenna. The Antenna was located at the bottom of the nexus which was a design flaw and thus why 3G was terrible. Not to mention T-Mobile has terrible 3G coverage.
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Lots of HTC phones have the antenna at the bottom of the phone The Touch HD and the Incredible to name a few. \
I have had no 3G issues, The antenna indicator always reads a bar less then my droid did in the same spot but the phones perform the same and I have read that this is most likely a false reading

h2opoloplyr_11 said:
my friends incredible southern california area has been getting really low 3g signals. im always at full HSDPA bars and he gets 1 or two bars if hes lucky.....
ive also read that a lot of phones has been rebooting randomly on its own, and some speculate on that low signal. you think his phone is defective?
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Check the dB's, not the "bars". Bars read a little lower, but signal strength is better on DI compared to a lot of other phones.
Overall, I thought moto droid's quality and reception were good, the DI appears to be a few steps above that!
So far, DI's been flawless!!

You canals force 3g by dialing #*#*4636*#*# and select evdo from phone information menu. That's what I use when I really need to browse.

syntrix said:
Check the dB's, not the "bars". Bars read a little lower, but signal strength is better on DI compared to a lot of other phones.
Overall, I thought moto droid's quality and reception were good, the DI appears to be a few steps above that!
So far, DI's been flawless!!
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duh why didnt i think of that??? LOL

my 3G reception has been terrible on two Incredibles. varies from -100 to -105 dBm. and its not a service area issue. my room mate has a droid and gets excellent 3G speed and call quality in the same room. My data speeds are slower than at&t 2G and voice is to the point of unusable. some of these phones that go out are certainly bad
Verizon CS has been very helpful in this process, but i still dont have a phone thats usable

my friends incredible southern california area has been getting really low 3g signals. im always at full HSDPA bars and he gets 1 or two bars if hes l
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Check the dB's, not the "bars". Bars read a little lower, but signal strength is better on DI compared to a lot of other phones.
Overall, I thought moto droid's quality and reception were good, the DI appears to be a few steps above that!
So far, DI's been flawless!!
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I checked my signal strength compared to my fiance's droid, my incredible got the same and sometimes better. the bars on the incredible lagged some and would show one less. For the most part they fluctuated about the same.
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No working GPS? No problem. No froyo? No problem. Bad reception? Problem

First off I'd like to say I'm thankful for everything the devs here do. I've tried the 3g fix and it didn't do anything, so now I'm just curious if there is anything else out there that fixes it.
I'm on the newest DL09 and the problem is still there. Bad reception. I'm serious when I say I get full 3g bars maybe 1% of the time, and I'm dead center in a verizon 3g area. I've never seen a signal jump around as much as on the fascinate. It will switch between 3g and 1x constantly throughout the day, and when it's on 3g it looks like the bars are dancing all day long because they just jump around.
My original Droid will have a steady 5 bars pretty much all day. Fascinate...not even close. It's getting ridiculous actually. I can download updates for apps on my droid no problem, but I actually wait til I get home on my wifi to download updates on my fascinate. I constantly get "stuck" loading a page on the net because of the ridiculous reception.
Now my question is...is there any fix out there that actually works that I might have skipped over? Good reception is a HUGE thing, especially when I'm dead center in a 3g area, and the fascinate doesn't have it. I'm thinking about selling it in the next few days because it's absolutely crazy.
People complain all day long about the GPS and no froyo...and I'm actually confused as to why many do not complain about the reception. That's the biggest issue with the phone IMO.
Thanks for any help.

Have you actually tried contacting Verizon about it? It sounds like you've got an antenna issue, which should be pretty easily addressed with a phone swap.

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Have you actually tried contacting Verizon about it? It sounds like you've got an antenna issue, which should be pretty easily addressed with a phone swap.
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My friends has the same issue, and I've seen people complain about it before. So I think it's a fairly common issue.

brian85 said:
First off I'd like to say I'm thankful for everything the devs here do. I've tried the 3g fix and it didn't do anything, so now I'm just curious if there is anything else out there that fixes it.
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Thanks for any help.
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I'm assuming you tried the reprogramming codes?
http://www.ehow.com/how_4532332_reprogram-verizon-phone.html
probably the 1st thing you tried, but just checking. I know for me, i went from being in the -102 range (1 bar) to -89 range (2 to 3) at work. Also at home i went from -92 to -51 (MAX)

You did option 2 correct?

Just did option 2 and it seems to have done nothing. Going back and forth between -96 and -101

If you dont see people compalining about reception, its largely due to the fact that the phone doesnt really suffer from reception issues. If I were you, I'd call verizon and make a formal complaint about the hardware restricting your usage, I'm sure they will work with you.

I'm a sales rep at a Verizon corporate store, 4 of my co-workers have Fascinates and we ALL experience a MAJOR difference in signal quality compared to co-workers with Droid X's and Droid 2's...
There's a five page thread on droidforums (fascinate section) about every single person in that thread having reception issues on the fascinate. And if you do a "fascinate reception issue" search on google, there are threads everywhere about that.
I just have a feeling everyone is focused on froyo and GPS so that's why reception isn't brought up much. I highly doubt, with as many people that have this problem, that it's just a problem on some of the galaxy s phones.

agreed bro i lose signal from my bars are really sporadic

BlackHoleSlam said:
agreed bro i lose signal from my bars are really sporadic
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Yeah it's very frustrating.
What's even more frustrating is even when I get 4 full bars I only get -89 on the mobile signal widget..that's far from max reception.

I've never had reception problems per se but I have full bars and 73 dbm. Also for some reason my 3g download rate is nerfed. Earlier today on speed test got 63 kbps and 462 ping dunno why. Mostly hovers in the 300kbps range
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AlexDeGruven said:
Have you actually tried contacting Verizon about it? It sounds like you've got an antenna issue, which should be pretty easily addressed with a phone swap.
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I've had two phones now, and they both have very poor signal strength. Comparing my Fascinate to a friends Droid, sitting just a few inches apart, he had a dbm in the mid to high -70's, while mine was in the high -90's.
If you're in a solid coverage area, it gets fine reception and you're not likely to see the problem, but as you travel into a lower signal area, the Fascinate trails off very, very sharply. Even though I live in an area with supposedly blanket coverage, my house is towards the bottom of a small hill and I typically get zero or 1 bars on the display, every once in a while 2, but it'll drop back to 1 or 0 as soon as I pick the phone it.
The Fascinate does have a very week antennae design.

I rarely see 3 or 4 bars...come to think of it, I don't think i've ever seen 3 or 4 bars. This is when I'm in an area which should definitely have excellent coverage.
OP: do you have actual symptoms of poor signal like slow down/up load or dropped calls?
My speed tests when i have 1bar 3G are about 800Mbits up and 500Mbits down. Never dropped a call (rarely make calls, though). I have read that some folks suspect that the Fascinate has reporting issues? I don't know...but since I'm not seeing horrible speeds I've tried ignoring the fact that its always reporting 1-2 bars.
Kind of similar to the TWoS thing. I chased this one for a little bit too before dismissing it as a reporting issue (for now).

I originally was upset about the reception but came to realize that the office building I work in is built like a bunker. Other then when I am in the center of the building I get good reception, at my desk near a window I get 1-3 bars. However anytime other then when I am in this building I almost always have full bars.
However I have noticed that when I am in my office what ever bars I get my friends droid gets one more. But when it comes down to that it isn't Verizon...again the problem is with Samsung.

Hey guys,
what if I did option 1 instead of option 2 in *228 reprogramming?
On another note, my 3g indicator constantly disappears in verizon hotspot areas, it is really quite the annoyance.

Are you on a stock kernel?
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Negative, I'm on Dl09 supah clean with adry's 12/30 test kernel.
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The reception for my Fascinate isn't spectacular. I don't know how it ranks among smart phones, but there is a definite difference between it and my chocolate 8550. In known holes in vzw's coverage I occasionally lose signal, but I don't use it as a phone enough to drop many calls.
However, I spend the majority of my time in strong signal environs, so it doesn't really come up as an issue for me, and I just accept it. It will be a decision factor for my next phone though.
Maybe others have a similar situation: worse yes, but liveable.
Swyped w/ XDA App. When in doubt, mumble.

I have noticed the signal over the past 24 hours has been jumping all over the place like Verizon may be running tests or something. The drop being very consistent intervals of no bars but still 3g.
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My brother has Fascinate as do I and out of the Box his got 2 more bars than mine and his almost always has more signal.
Remember this was before I started rooting and all that.
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Reception Issues with Verizon PLAY R800x?

I've posted this in a couple forums and I'm trying to figure out if it's a widespread issue or just an issue with a few units. My PLAY is consistently getting 2-3 bars LESS than any other phones right next to it. And it seems that BGR also had similar issues with their review unit and said that the PLAY had some of the worst reception they've seen in a long time. And when I posted about this on the official VZW forums, other members also stated they are having similar problems. I'm also struggling to connect to 3G when my area is completely covered in 3G and was ALWAYS on 3G on my iPhone 4.
So I'm wondering, how is everyone else's reception on Verizon? Are you having similar problems, or are you getting just as many bars as other phones in the same area?

My phone also shows only 1-2 bars at most. However if you go to the status of the phone, the phone, the actual strength for me is between -79 - -80 db which as far as I can tell is perfectly good reception.
Haven't had any dropped calls and could make calls so far everywhere I went.

I have the rogers version (canada) and reception/3g is amazing, almost always full bars. Wireless on the other hand sucks.
My friends iphones/captivates get wireless where mine wont...

On AT&T with my R800a and I have better signal now than I ever did on my iPhone 3GS, oddly enough. I get signal in places the iPhone used to choke on consistently.
From what I remember being on Verizon years ago, bars didn't matter as much as CDMA voice is pure digital. You either have a solid connection or you don't at all. EVDO was similar as I remember it, sharing the same data stream and the reason why you can't talk and surf at the same time. Is the phone just showing weak bars or is it a problem of no signal at all?
At any rate, I bet SE will patch the radio firmware in the 2.3.3 update for the US.

It's mostly just showing low bars but the fact that it's having trouble staying on 3G is the biggest thing. It's on 1x 80% of the time but I should always be on the EVDO connection. I'm going to try a few more tests with my girlfriends iphone and my play and see just how much they are different. I really hope it's something that is an be fixed through software.
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My reception is terrible on my unbranded R800a, as I rarely have more than two bars. I know most phones have this issue, but when I hold the phone near the bottom for too long (which is often), it messes with the signal. 90% of the time when I'm using it, it reads zero bars.
I've yet to have a dropped call though, so I'm not too concerned about it...more of a mental thing than anything else.
Edit: I'm getting -101 dBm in most rooms in my house...looks pretty bad to me.

Like I mentioned before, have any of you gone into the about phone section and read the actual signal? I don't think you can trust the bars as actual signal strength. Check the actual numbers.
I had one issue with the phone at 1x, I restarted it and it was fine. I had the same issue with my Droid 2 sometimes, so I don't think it was all on the phone.

Went back to the Verizon store today to see if they would swap it out with a new one. But first we compared it to the floor model and it had the same problem. It had consistently lower signal than other phones in the store. He basically said I have the 14 days to return it and decide whether I want better signal or the gaming controls. He agreed with me that the phone wasn't holding a signal as good as the other phones. Even driving down the highway which ways gave me 5 bars is giving me 1. And my signal is 86+
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Mines is about the same as my htc droid eris on the verizon network.
In settings, about phone, it shows -90 dBm
Just read somewhere off the internet that the about phone settings dBm doesn't represent 3g. it represents 1x. Not sure if it is true.

Do you think I should just try and make them swap the phone out for me and see if the new one is any better before just returning it for good? And what are the chances they would gladly swap it out for a new phone without giving me a hard time and making me pay a restocking fee? The phone is awesome except for the reception issues I'm having. And I'd hate to pass on the phone if it's an isolated incident.

They will xchange it. Do what ive done call tech support and make them document u need aa replacement
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I tested talk and web browsing, works fine on verizon. Possibly just another iOs limitation. *_*
Back to topic, I've noticed the 2 - 3 bars usually in LA but the signal strength is good dBm. ?
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mine is usually round -85 DBm and like 1-2 bars, my other tunderbolt is full bars for my wife, have nto checked DBm on it tho

placing xperia play next to original droid.
Droid: 4 bars, -70dBm
Play: 1 bar, -74dBm
Both 3g.
Not sure what this means?

trothmaster said:
placing xperia play next to original droid.
Droid: 4 bars, -70dBm
Play: 1 bar, -74dBm
Both 3g.
Not sure what this means?
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This means that the reception is a tiny bit worse in pure radio power. However, its scale is MASSIVELY shifted in regards to bar listings. I would be just bottoming out around -96dBm on my Droid. Dropping out at -80dB is a bad thing.

so it sounds like a software update could help? or am I miss-understanding....

I swapped out my phone and my new one is much much better
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I also swapped mine and see no improvement. What improvement were you seeing?
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Having the same signal problems with my r800x. I think it might just be an issue with Verizon.

Signal strength ?

Just wanted to know how good the signal strength is on the LG G 2 because I have the gs3 and it sucks so just want your guys feedback because I was thinking about buying one soon but wanted to know how good you guys are getting?
Thanks guys
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I can say based on my experience that the note 2 have better signal strength
I work under ground and the note 2 used to give me 2 bars of signal strength, while my g2 fails to get any signal most of the time -_-
I just hope that maybe a modem update would solve this problem
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Looks like you're on Verizon. LG >> Samsung for signal strength. My office where I work is in a poor reception spot, and my Galaxy Nexus was awful at holding a signal. G2 has been a world better.
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The g2 is about - 10 to -12 dBm better than my hd Maxx side by side, and the hd had good signal. It's also consistently better than my wife's s4
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The g2 is about - 10 to -12 dBm better than my hd Maxx side by side, and the hd had good signal. It's also consistently better than my wife's s4
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10-12dBm is a huge difference, are you sure you're comparing them in the same exact spot and both on 3G or 4G? Most I've seen between any device was just a few dBm.

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10-12dBm is a huge difference, are you sure you're comparing them in the same exact spot and both on 3G or 4G? Most I've seen between any device was just a few dBm.
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I'm pretty sure there were in the same spot, because I was holding them. One was in my right hand and one was in my left. I guess you could say give or take a foot. I tested several times. The hd was always around -112 to 114dBm and the g2 was at -100 to 103. The g2 would also pick up 4G in a few spots that my hd never could. If you haven't previously seen that big of difference, you obviously haven't compared a gnex to basically any other phone.
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I'm pretty sure there were in the same spot, because I was holding them. One was in my right hand and one was in my left. I guess you could say give or take a foot. I tested several times. The hd was always around -112 to 114dBm and the g2 was at -100 to 103. The g2 would also pick up 4G in a few spots that my hd never could. If you haven't previously seen that big of difference, you obviously haven't compared a gnex to basically any other phone.
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Interesting.. One last question, were both phones on 3G or 4G? If one was 3G and the other 4G than that would explain the huge discrepancy.

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Interesting.. One last question, were both phones on 3G or 4G? If one was 3G and the other 4G than that would explain the huge discrepancy.
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Both were on 4G, I know signal bars aren't accurate but, the hd had 1 bar and the g2 had 3
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heffzilla said:
I'm pretty sure there were in the same spot, because I was holding them. One was in my right hand and one was in my left. I guess you could say give or take a foot. I tested several times. The hd was always around -112 to 114dBm and the g2 was at -100 to 103. The g2 would also pick up 4G in a few spots that my hd never could. If you haven't previously seen that big of difference, you obviously haven't compared a gnex to basically any other phone
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Yeah, the LG's antennas were always better then Moto's garbage. It's common notion

I'm in NJ and coming from a S3, my signal is much better on the G2. Usually 5-7 dBm better
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rezound has slightly better signal than G2 indoors
I tested on my basement:
HTC rezound can somewhat maintain 3G, 4G, 1x signal
G2 can only periodically get 3G, 4G, 1x signal
dbm value is not important because: even if they are in the same spot one phone could be transmitting at 50% to conserve battery and the other phone could be transmitting at 100%. naturally the phone transmitting at 100% would show better dbm. so I think its better to measure the ability of the phone to maintain signal

On Verizon I had better signal on my s3. I hadn't seen a 3g icon anywhere near me for almost a year, but now with the g2 I see it every once in a while.
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The G2 is head and shoulders above my Galaxy Nexus VZW. I would get one bar at home with the Nexus and it would bounce between 3g and 4g and occasionally lose the signal completely while doing so. The G2 gets a steady 2 bars of 4g.
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On Verizon I had better signal on my. I hadn't seen a 3g icon anywhere near me for almost a year, but now with the g2 I see it every once in a while.
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"my" what?
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The G2 is head and shoulders above my Galaxy Nexus VZW. I would get one bar at home with the Nexus and it would bounce between 3g and 4g and occasionally lose the signal completely while doing so. The G2 gets a steady 2 bars of 4g.
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I think the galaxy nexus has probably the worst signal in verizon phones

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I think the galaxy nexus has probably the worst signal in verizon phones
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Sorry my s3, and all these people comparing to the gnex that's not really saying much. Pretty sure every phone released since the gnex came out has had better reception.
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The G2 has less signal strength indoors (steel building) at my work than the iPhone 5 that it replaced. It has been some what of a problem because about 43% of my battery goes to cell reception. I have had better luck by putting my phone in the one spot that gets just 1 bar of signal in my office, but even then it goes in an out from time to time.

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The G2 has less signal strength indoors (steel building) at my work than the iPhone 5 that it replaced. It has been some what of a problem because about 43% of my battery goes to cell reception. I have had better luck by putting my phone in the one spot that gets just 1 bar of signal in my office, but even then it goes in an out from time to time.
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thanks I've always wondered how good iphones 5 signal reception

I've been trying to decide on what phone to get to replace my GNex and the primary factor in my search has been signal strength. We have great 4G coverage here in Pittsburgh yet every Samsung phone sits on 3G almost all day every day. Samsung has the worst radios by far. I know a rep at the Verizon store near where I work so we took a bunch of phones out the other day and compared the signal strength from the city all the way out towards the airport. The iPhone 5 and LG G2 were neck and neck averaging about 4~5 dB better than it's closest competitor the HTC One. Following closely were the new Moto phones. X, MAXX and Ultra. We didn't take a mini with us. We took a Note II, S3, S4 and my GNex that all performed about 7~10 dB worse than the Motos. In the building where I work (steel building barely any reception) The iPhone 5 dropped 4G all together as well as the Moto phones. The Samsungs didn't have a data signal at all. The LG G2 was switching back and forth between 3G and 4G. The HTC One was able to retain a 4G signal but it was slow.
If I was buying one right now I'd probably get the G2. I'm still back and forth between the One and the G2 though.... I'm in my building a lot and the One seemed to get better reception through hard to penetrate walls so that was a major plus on it's side.

I've had GREAT reception. I get about twice the signal strength I had on verizon GNEX.

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I've been trying to decide on what phone to get to replace my GNex and the primary factor in my search has been signal strength. We have great 4G coverage here in Pittsburgh yet every Samsung phone sits on 3G almost all day every day. Samsung has the worst radios by far. I know a rep at the Verizon store near where I work so we took a bunch of phones out the other day and compared the signal strength from the city all the way out towards the airport. The iPhone 5 and LG G2 were neck and neck averaging about 4~5 dB better than it's closest competitor the HTC One. Following closely were the new Moto phones. X, MAXX and Ultra. We didn't take a mini with us. We took a Note II, S3, S4 and my GNex that all performed about 7~10 dB worse than the Motos. In the building where I work (steel building barely any reception) The iPhone 5 dropped 4G all together as well as the Moto phones. The Samsungs didn't have a data signal at all. The LG G2 was switching back and forth between 3G and 4G. The HTC One was able to retain a 4G signal but it was slow.
If I was buying one right now I'd probably get the G2. I'm still back and forth between the One and the G2 though.... I'm in my building a lot and the One seemed to get better reception through hard to penetrate walls so that was a major plus on it's side.
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that was a comprehensive list. you just need to add galaxy note 3
In addition to the list HTC rezound had slightly better reception than my G2(see my previous post)

How are the radios?

How's everyone's reception been? Compared to a galaxy s4 or any other phone you had prior. Better? Worse?
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I had the Note 4 before getting this and I've noticed it to be around 4 to 6 dBM worse. WiFi is noticeably weaker as well. I have the 64GB variant.

One reason I purchased this phone was the supposed better radios of Motorola. It is noticeably worse than the Samsung Note 4 and HTC One M8. I wish I could just go back to my M8 but that is impossible without repurchasing one and wasting my Edge ;p. I never lost 4G with my M8 while I lost 4G with the Note 4 in a few areas and many times with the Droid Turbo today. Very disappointed in the radio performance, will try again tomorrow with new Sim Card, but I think I might be screwed. The phone is stable at my home and slightly better than the Note 4 here. At work is where I had all the trouble.

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One reason I purchased this phone was the supposed better radios of Motorola. It is noticeably worse than the Samsung Note 4 and HTC One M8. I wish I could just go back to my M8 but that is impossible without repurchasing one and wasting my Edge ;p. I never lost 4G with my M8 while I lost 4G with the Note 4 in a few areas and many times with the Droid Turbo today. Very disappointed in the radio performance, will try again tomorrow with new Sim Card, but I think I might be screwed.
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I'd wait a few weeks before doing anything drastic. As with any new phone, there will likely be some software bugs to address that may affect signal in the first few weeks.

I can attest for certain the Radio is MUCH better than any phone that I have had. (S4,S5,One M8, Note 4, iPhone6 etc)
My experience that is much different -is a 20 Mile stretch of road to my Home. I live in Fringe Reception area in Norther California (Foresthill) I haven't ever been able to drive the 20 Mile Stretch home without dropping a phone call.( This usually happens numerous times) With The Turbo I was able to stay connected to Verizon Customer Service the Entire 20 Miles to my Home!
The only Bummer about this experience is that I was on the Phone with Verizon regarding the lack of Simul Data! What a complete ****ter! This is something that I will give props to Apple about. The day the iPhone 6 was released the phone could use VOLTE . Kind horse **** that a Flagship VZ Moto exclusive device doesnt have the proper software to use VOLTE on release.

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I can attest for certain the Radio is MUCH better than any phone that I have had. (S4,S5,One M8, Note 4, iPhone6 etc)
My experience that is much different -is a 20 Mile stretch of road to my Home. I live in Fringe Reception area in Norther California (Foresthill) I haven't ever been able to drive the 20 Mile Stretch home without dropping a phone call.( This usually happens numerous times) With The Turbo I was able to stay connected to Verizon Customer Service the Entire 20 Miles to my Home!
The only Bummer about this experience is that I was on the Phone with Verizon regarding the lack of Simul Data! What a complete ****ter! This is something that I will give props to Apple about. The day the iPhone 6 was released the phone could use VOLTE . Kind horse **** that a Flagship VZ Moto exclusive device doesnt have the proper software to use VOLTE on release.
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Good to hear, so is it a guarantee that when it gets VOLTE it will have Simultaneous data tand voice on every phone call? Also which version of the turbo did u get as far as material.

I purchased the 32GB Red (Carbon) <- thinking about getting the black LOL.
It's for sure a software issue with the phone. My iPhone 6 was able to access VOLTE the day of release in my area. It's unreal that VZ & Moto wouldn't require the feature to be working on release date. It appears to be an issue with the 2014 Moto X as well from what I have been reading
I will say the phone is incredibly snappy, and smooth in performance. I can only imagine how the performance will be when we get L on the phone.
PS. Haven't had enough time to compare the WIFI performance but that is usually not a problem for me anyways- I have 4 Ubiquiti Access Points installed at my home. The way the system works is each wifi AP hands off the WIFI signal simultaneously from one AP to another- all without interrupting whatever you may be streaming The most important item to me is my Cell Reception and a huge Bonus that I can stay connected driving the 20 mile stretch home.
-Scoob

As far as mobile data is concerned, seems to be about the same or slightly better than my G3, however WiFi is significantly worse.
DROID Turbo 1x and WiFi:
LG G3 1x and WiFi:
DROID Turbo LTE:
LG G3 LTE:

Wifi signals are WAY down compared to my other devices which include iphone 5S, 6, HTC One M8, Note II, Note 3, Galaxy S5...
Have the 64GB black nylon one.
I'll have to try outdoors. We have a long range wifi extender to cover a large section of the pasture and all my other devices get a decent signal up to 1km away. This will be a good test.
I had a carbon fiber case on my S5 (Cygnett IIRC) that blocked the LTE signal really bad. That's the disadvantage to having real carbon fiber LOL.
Not sure about the ballistic nylon. Does it have CF in it?
I wish the back came off, I have a friend who's an RF test engineer and he could see if it has attenuation in the (un) desired ranges.

cpufrost said:
Wifi signals are WAY down compared to my other devices which include iphone 5S, 6, HTC One M8, Note II, Note 3, Galaxy S5...
Have the 64GB black nylon one.
I'll have to try outdoors. We have a long range wifi extender to cover a large section of the pasture and all my other devices get a decent signal up to 1km away. This will be a good test.
I had a carbon fiber case on my S5 (Cygnett IIRC) that blocked the LTE signal really bad. That's the disadvantage to having real carbon fiber LOL.
Not sure about the ballistic nylon. Does it have CF in it?
I wish the back came off, I have a friend who's an RF test engineer and he could see if it has attenuation in the (un) desired ranges.
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Looking forward to hearing the results of your outdoor test. And while you're out there, can you check on how readable the screen is in direct sunlight?

scooby-snack said:
I can attest for certain the Radio is MUCH better than any phone that I have had. (S4,S5,One M8, Note 4, iPhone6 etc)
My experience that is much different -is a 20 Mile stretch of road to my Home. I live in Fringe Reception area in Norther California (Foresthill) I haven't ever been able to drive the 20 Mile Stretch home without dropping a phone call.( This usually happens numerous times) With The Turbo I was able to stay connected to Verizon Customer Service the Entire 20 Miles to my Home!
The only Bummer about this experience is that I was on the Phone with Verizon regarding the lack of Simul Data! What a complete ****ter! This is something that I will give props to Apple about. The day the iPhone 6 was released the phone could use VOLTE . Kind horse **** that a Flagship VZ Moto exclusive device doesnt have the proper software to use VOLTE on release.
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There is a big difference between holding on to a phone call and getting good data (4G).
Do you get a good 4G signal also? Thanks

My signal not so good with Droid Turbo
I have had around -105 dbm 4G LTE which is 2 bars and have had a few times where I had 3 bars. Normally in the same area I would have 4 to 5 bars. I also had a time where I tried to make a call and it was on 1x when I was in a big city where there is 4G towers. After the call it went to 4G. I sure hope we all get this issue fixed. Other than this issue most everything has been great.

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I have had around -105 dbm 4G LTE which is 2 bars and have had a few times where I had 3 bars. Normally in the same area I would have 4 to 5 bars. I also had a time where I tried to make a call and it was on 1x when I was in a big city where there is 4G towers. After the call it went to 4G. I sure hope we all get this issue fixed. Other than this issue most everything has been great.
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Man that sucks the big one. The bars you are seeing are probably 3g or 1x voice signal. Which still sucks if you download an app called advanced signal it will tell you exactly what is going on. I'm defiantly gonna hold off until it gets solved. I have to pay full retail as I am on unlimited Thanks for your input.

My LTE and Wifi strength are also down.
Siting in my office, I used to get full bars of wifi reception on my DNA. Now its at 2 bars. Same goes for my LTE signal.
I'll do some actual testing later, but I hope this gets resolved quickly

Yeah the wifi is killing me. It's incredibly noticeable in various parts of my house that I used to have stellar wifi.

I've had LTE where my M8 struggled to even get 3G. I'm quite pleased with the signal.

I've had better LTE and 3G reception versus my S3. Seems like calls sound better. Better (quicker acquisition, less drops) GPS performance as well. Wifi signal reception seems to be on par. Both phones in the same room a few feet apart, are within 1-2dBm of each other. I haven't tested performance, or compared client statistics on my wireless controller yet.

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Has anyone tried just taking the phone on the road and checking signals not bars but 3G or 4G. If the phone doesnt have voice and internet at the same time that would explain why the phone would go to 1X when your on a call then back up when you get off. If you out and about do you have 4G where you did with previous phones not bars but 4G? The bars on my Droid Maxx tell me what my voice signal strength is not 4G I believe it is the same with the turbo. The WIFI deal Im cluless if it doesnt connect then it doesnt connect. again though it doesnt depend on howmany bars you have. It is how the phone performs. Im in a real crap signal area I can have 1X on my Maxx and still be able to make calls and text because I may have only one bar on the phone. Thanks

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Has anyone tried just taking the phone on the road and checking signals not bars but 3G or 4G. If the phone doesnt have voice and internet at the same time that would explain why the phone would go to 1X when your on a call then back up when you get off. If you out and about do you have 4G where you did with previous phones not bars but 4G? The bars on my Droid Maxx tell me what my voice signal strength is not 4G I believe it is the same with the turbo. The WIFI deal Im cluless if it doesnt connect then it doesnt connect. again though it doesnt depend on howmany bars you have. It is how the phone performs. Im in a real crap signal area I can have 1X on my Maxx and still be able to make calls and text because I may have only one bar on the phone. Thanks
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Look back a few pages, I posted dBm readings between phones. I agree though, comparing bars is useless.

Just figured I'd chime in. I swapped my kevlar version for the normal version and my wifi is back to the same strength that my G2 had. There was definitely something wrong with the kevlar one I had...