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hi all,
im after some of your advice as to the best tablet, im going to ask in the Transformer and Galaxy forums as well, but id like your opinions on what is the best tablet to buy, obviously you guys are using the Xoom already, and are happily modding the hell out of them, so you may have experience with the others as well.
i am trying to find somewhere which has all 3 which i can look at side by side, but in the UK im pretty much left with Pc world/Currys.. so i thought id do the next best thing and talk to people who have/use them.
i have narrowed my choices to;
Motorola Xoom,
Asus Transformer
Samsung Galaxy 10.1
if possible can you let me know what your experiences are like with any of them.
Thanks All.
TheWhiteDragon said:
hi all,
im after some of your advice as to the best tablet, im going to ask in the Transformer and Galaxy forums as well, but id like your opinions on what is the best tablet to buy, obviously you guys are using the Xoom already, and are happily modding the hell out of them, so you may have experience with the others as well.
i am trying to find somewhere which has all 3 which i can look at side by side, but in the UK im pretty much left with Pc world/Currys.. so i thought id do the next best thing and talk to people who have/use them.
i have narrowed my choices to;
Motorola Xoom,
Asus Transformer
Samsung Galaxy 10.1
if possible can you let me know what your experiences are like with any of them.
Thanks All.
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There are already quite a few threads in General and in Q&A touching on the comparsion between these tablets. There's been pretty frank discussion of pros and cons, but as you'd expect on a Xoom forum, most passionate cooments were pro-Xoom. Check them out...you will need to go back a few pages in both sections, but it makes for some lively reading.
Good luck with your decision-making process (but buy the Xoom!)
The Xoom is quite heavy so if you want to hold it with one hand for a minute or two, it isn't the right tablet. It's built really durable but the weight factor is a big con for me. It also has really good specs, just look at reviews on youtube on the tablets. Also, make sure you see all your options! Many of these tablets are getting a price reduction via coupon so find them first so you save a hundred or two.
UnidH4x0r said:
The Xoom is quite heavy so if you want to hold it with one hand for a minute or two, it isn't the right tablet. It's built really durable but the weight factor is a big con for me. It also has really good specs, just look at reviews on youtube on the tablets. Also, make sure you see all your options! Many of these tablets are getting a price reduction via coupon so find them first so you save a hundred or two.
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The Xoom isn't the heaviest tab, but it is the best built. Those others incorporate a lot of plastic and flex a lot if squeezed. There are some issues with all of them, some are related to build quality/quality control, and others are more subjective.
Hello
I purchased my Xoom from best buy 2 weeks ago at the time of purchase I had a play on the Asus and Acer. I chose the XOOM on the back of the better build quality and feel. Yes it is that little bit heavier but it feels better. I also thought about the Samsung Galaxy 10.1 to match it with my Galaxy SII phone but the lack of an sd slot was a big let down for me. Since then Google have purchased part of Motorola which should mean that the Xoom should be supported for a long time to come.
Hello
I purchased my Xoom from best buy 2 weeks ago at the time of purchase I had a play on the Asus and Acer. I chose the XOOM on the back of the better build quality and feel. Yes it is that little bit heavier but it feels better. I also thought about the Samsung Galaxy 10.1 to match it with my Galaxy SII phone but the lack of an sd slot was a big let down for me. Since then Google have purchased part of Motorola which should mean that the Xoom should be supported for a long time to come.
Hello
I purchased my Xoom from best buy 2 weeks ago at the time of purchase I had a play on the Asus and Acer. I chose the XOOM on the back of the better build quality and feel. Yes it is that little bit heavier but it feels better. I also thought about the Samsung Galaxy 10.1 to match it with my Galaxy SII phone but the lack of an sd slot was a big let down for me. Since then Google have purchased part of Motorola which should mean that the Xoom should be supported for a long time to come.
Hello
I purchased my Xoom from best buy 2 weeks ago at the time of purchase I had a play on the Asus and Acer. I chose the XOOM on the back of the better build quality and feel. Yes it is that little bit heavier but it feels better. I also thought about the Samsung Galaxy 10.1 to match it with my Galaxy SII phone but the lack of an sd slot was a big let down for me. Since then Google have purchased part of Motorola which should mean that the Xoom should be supported for a long time to come.
Wow a quadruple post! I haven't seen one of those in awhile ;p
Sorry only meant to press it 1 time.
I've had my Xoom since Feb 24th at 11:12 a.m. & it's hands down the best to me.I love it.I played with the Samsung 10.1 in the store a few weeks ago & wasn't impressed.All it was was thinner..The screen on it didn't blow me away as some people in the 10.1 forum suggests.Me & my Xoom have been thru a lot together
Just come through the same problem as you and narrowed it down to the xoom, for build and expansion and the galaxy tab, for screen and light wieght.
The deciding factor was the price, pc world now do the xoom for £329 wifi or £400 for 3g. I couldnt turn down an offer like that and havent looked back since yes the xoom is a little heavy but I like that! And the screen is fine too, not as bright as the galaxy tab or as vivid colours but long as your not comparing them back to back you'll never notice it tbh.
Good luck with the choice
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fastyan said:
Just come through the same problem as you and narrowed it down to the xoom, for build and expansion and the galaxy tab, for screen and light wieght.
The deciding factor was the price, pc world now do the xoom for £329 wifi or £400 for 3g. I couldnt turn down an offer like that and havent looked back since yes the xoom is a little heavy but I like that! And the screen is fine too, not as bright as the galaxy tab or as vivid colours but long as your not comparing them back to back you'll never notice it tbh.
Good luck with the choice
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I think the Xoom's colors are more natural, if more subdued. I had a chance to compare my Xoom vs. a Galaxy Tab 10.1 yesterday and the GTab's screen is certainly vivid! Very good for some things (movies, games), but as an artist, I like to see my work and others' work in a more natural color palette. YMMV.
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I think the Xoom's colors are more natural, if more subdued. I had a chance to compare my Xoom vs. a Galaxy Tab 10.1 yesterday and the GTab's screen is certainly vivid! Very good for some things (movies, games), but as an artist, I like to see my work and others' work in a more natural color palette. YMMV.
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Very true and feel the same myself and was the same reason I went for the desire HD rather than the gallaxy s but some people see bright and think its better, its all down to personal taste I suppose
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Definitely the xoom. Its built better then other tabs and has some great support as well.
I couldn't be happier.
The sound beats all other tabs and the display may not be as bright but its ultra responsive. The transformer had a nice responsive screen as well but build quality was subpar.
Like others said before this tablet has a subdued color palette which is great.
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hmm i hadnt thought about the vivid colour schemes..
im tempted to wait a bit longer to see what comes out in the next wave of tablets, though im unsure the price of the current best bunch is going to fall by much.
If cost is not a concern, (i guess there isn't a large varience in price anyways), I would advise the galaxy. It is in general just a bit more refined than the xoom. But if you want the hdmi, standard USB, slightly better cameras and more dev work, you can't go wrong with the xoom...
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hows the DEV and ROM builds for ICS on the 10.1 TAB?
Considering buying one
Or should I hold off and wait for a new model to come out?
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hows the DEV and ROM builds for ICS on the 10.1 TAB?
Considering buying one
Or should I hold off and wait for a new model to come out?
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I would wait for Samsung's next generation of tablets to hit with the quadcore Exynos SOC that should outperform the Tegra 3 and at least lower the prices of current models some. Either that or buy an iPad 3rd gen.. I'll catch hell for that, but it is a great tablet! Good luck with your decision!
There haven't been any leaked ICS builds yet and the CM build's don't have the camera working.
My 10.1 with 3.2 runs netflix and with bubble pnp and MX video will play all my media on my nas which the ipad won't do.
If you want to use it as a media device it works great as it is. The ICS release for the i9100 has left me convinced that Samsung will throw some ass UI on ICS and it might be a bit snappier (debatable) but my Tab works great now for what it is.
I am using the KANG ROM for ICS. Works well. No camera functionality yet because Samsung has not released the kernel yet. I never use it however, actually have a Canon for that!
KANG WIFI 10.1 ICS P7510
However, as previous poster said, you are in a unique position. I would definitely wait for the next gen tablet. Or if you like a device locked down but nice, get the new ipad. nothing worse than getting a new gizmo, and a new version is released at the store in a couple months!
If money is not an issue, snag a tablet now, maybe the ASUS prime (tegra 3) or the 10.1 at best buy, get the buyback option, and trade it in later when a new one comes out.
If you can wait a couple more months then I would say go with a newer gen tablet that will be coming out. If you cant and you want this one, I would say try to get it second hand off somebody as I think you will be more happy with it.
The lack of updates from samsung sucks. I have a skyrocket and still no working ICS from samsung. I am an active DEV for the skyrocket..
Its just sad that we dont get the latest updates from samsung/google.
Its worth buying and trying out some of these roms. The price of this tab has come down.
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The lack of updates from samsung sucks. I have a skyrocket and still no working ICS from samsung. I am an active DEV for the skyrocket..
Its just sad that we dont get the latest updates from samsung/google.
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I have the Note and I can't wait until ICS!
I just bought it because the $400 price point just hit me right. I like it so far but have not hacked it yet. If you want anything newer it's going to cost more and I doubt there is going to be another price drop anytime in the near future.
XDA is no longer worth my time.
I love mine and I love all the roms that you can try on them.
I got mine off craiglist a month ago that came with a case, carry pouch, sd card adapter, 3 anti gloss screen protector, 16 gig mircro sd, all original wires and its in perfect condition for $350
It the 32 gig model btw
Got it rooted right away and installed the p4wifi build 26
Its been a month and I still haven't gotten any problems
Absolutely love it as I use it to stream movies, shows, sports all type of media and ipad can't do any of that.
I also use it for work
If you can find it for about $300 its still a great deal considering you'll save $100+ compared to buying retail + tax
I played with the new ipad yesterday and all I can say is it got a very gorgeous screen and it's very smooth but it still can't do certain things I need my tablets to do and it's very pricey
I would suggest you wait till a newer one comes out. Samsung is really pathetic when it comes to updates. I have had the 10.1 3G since it was released. I have tried the ICS roms from Mabalito & Pershoot since months. They are pretty good but battery life reallllly sucks & WIFI connectivity problems are far too many since the last few builds. I have also used the iPad 2 along with this and the user experience is just a little bit better. Somehow I am so frustrated with Samsung for not ironing out these little nags with the tablet. They have made a mess of this gorgeous piece of hardware with some very ordinary and laggy touchwiz based software.
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They have made a mess of this gorgeous piece of hardware with some very ordinary and laggy touchwiz based software.
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Have you tried alternative launchers? Personally I rate ADW and GoLauncher way above TouchWiz (each to their own though). Admittedly I'm smitten with ICS AOSP now as I have that on my phone and my soon-to-be-replaced 7" tab, but I found the GB experience tripled as soon as I stopped using TW.
its pretty funny the lack of love samsung gives everyone in terms of updates for just about every device they make!
no device is perfect
I just pulled the trigger on a refurbed 10.1 on woot.
Hoping it'll be a good replacement for my old Viewsonic G Tablet.
The Galaxy 10.1 is a good choice for a useable TAB,
there are many good custom roms available, HC and ICS.
(yes, no camera yet at all ICS, only on HC)
You can mount windows shares with cifsmanager app,
and watch all videos with bsplayer app direct per directory,
or have access to all your files on the shares.
Realtime TV from a Dreambox with DreamDroid app,
all SD channels of the Box on the TAB.
(HD sucks because wifi only 65Mbps)
With Remote RDP Lite app you have a real RDP Client to use a windows remote session on the TAB.
Musik per DLNA upnp app from the mediaserver to the amplifier, and watch the files and cover on the TAB.
(i do it all so...it make's me happy)
All the suggested apps are free of cost...
some game is not running in ICS on my galaxy tab 10.1
I love my Tab 10.1, however, its inability to handle full 1080p HD videos is really frustrating. For instance my Galaxy S2 generates full 1080p videos using its default settings, but these videos can't be played on my Tab until I convert them to 720p using Handbrake. This a really annoying process. I should be able to play videos produced by my S2 using its default settings on my Tab without any extra steps.
My advice is, if you can wait a couple of months, get the next generation of Tab, which will hopefully have issues like this resolved.
Archer, ADW is really good! Thanks!
Both the ICS ROMs available as of today:
AOKP build 28 has that horrible MAC address issue.
Pershoots ROM (27th March) also has issues with WiFi & Personal Hotspot. Other than that it is pretty good.
Ofcourse one cannot blame these guys who are putting in so much hard work day in and day out for our devices.
It is really Sam'dump' that has to really get their slouchy asses off to releasing an ICS ROMm so Pershoot & Co. can take their builds forward with proper drivers. It seems all their attention is diverted to the Galaxy S2 currently. The Tab and Note both are riddled with an outdated OS. Its almost April 2012, Samsung seems to be sleeping. On the other hand ICS has been floating on rival companies tablets since months now!
I am looking to buy a Galaxy Tab 2. I had the Nook Tablet and loved the size but wanted a tablet that was an actual tablet. I ended up buying the new ipad but things were tight and ended up having to sell it.
I want another tablet and love the size, speed, and battery life.I was playing with it at Best Buy and noticed that you can only use the entire screen in landscape mode. Are there any custom roms that fix this. Also, is everyone pretty happy with your GT2? I have an iphone and I love it. But I miss having an android device that I can customize and mess with. Just wanna make sure this is the right one. I think for the price, you can't miss!
Worth it!!
I love mine. Right now I am using the new 10.1 right now. I started with the 7in thinking I wouldn't want it to big. I then went to the 8.9 and yet again wanted bigger one. Plus it was nice the tab 2 10.1 came out as the same price as the 8.9. I bought mine at micro center; they had it for $249 which is 50 cheaper than best buy. Anyway yes Samsung pretty much owns the market. I loved all my galaxy tablets. Hope this helps and good luck.
I am loving my Tab 2 7.0. In fact, I have purchased several Android tablets looking for that right one, and I think I have deduced that none are really iPad killers, but the Tab 2 7.0 comes as close to being the ideal Android Tablet there is. I like it so much that I will more than likely sell my Xoom Wifi, and perhaps Transformer Prime and pick up the Tab 2 10.1.
PROS: size and feel, battery life it great (I charge about every other day with moderate us - now if you streamed video constantly, I would say you would charge every day). Speed is very nice. Browsing with no lag - very zippy. GPS works great. I have a 7" car mount and use it for Navigation and it works great. Good sound from the dual speakers (at least for this size of tablet). Screen is sharp. It has a power saving mode available in the settings that may extend your battery life a bit.
CONS: Of course, Touchwiz, but it sounds like you would customize, anyway. I just put Apex Launcher on it for now (I have no plans to root it and flash custom ROM at this time). The automatic brightness setting is almost always too dim for my tastes. This sounds wierd, but it is the hardest tablet to clean that I own - the screen is very "slimy" for lack of a better term. I can take microfiber cloths to any of my other tablets, and will little effort have them mirror shined, but it takes work on the Tab 2 7.0 - everything just smears really bad. Never experienced this before with a tablet. The last con is the backing - though it looks cool, the plastic is hard and slick - prone to scratches and dropping as it can slide out of your hands.
You have another option in the Kindle Fire. Head over to the Kindle Fire Development thread and check out some of the wonderful ROMS available there - I use GedeROM 1.55. If times are tight, you can pick up a Fire for next to nothing, root it and have a nearly pure ICS experience on it. I actually like the Fire's form factor better than the Tab 2 7.0. Cons of course are no Bluetooth, GPS, or Camera - which may be a killer for most. I would consider it the ultimate secondary cheap tablet to play with.
Good luck!
Rob
You may want to look at the Asus Prime line or the Acer Iconia Line. The development section on the Tab 2 is pitiful. There are only 2 ROMs available. Acer is about to release their A700 which will make the Tab 2 look like a toy. And the Asus line is really starting to get interesting. I bought the Tab 2 for my son, bought the 7" from Costco and when I got home it was the 10.1 inch. So I'll keep it but until the development increases for this tablet you may want to look elsewhere.
I suggest that the OP heads over to the Prime XDA forums before investing into any Asus tablet. Six months with mine has been nothing but disappointments. I simply cannot and will not recommend Asus to anyone. Any correspondence with them is further reason to avoid. They are going to have to have English based support to penetrate the US market further. If not phone, then at least someone to translate their support site and email correspondence for them. I recently had an owner survey from them and it was embarrassing.
Again, it is up to the OP to research, however and determine their own view.
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cruise350 said:
You may want to look at the Asus Prime line or the Acer Iconia Line. The development section on the Tab 2 is pitiful. There are only 2 ROMs available.
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This will change due to the volume Samsung has to be selling on the tab 2 7.0
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thanks for your help! I got my Tab 2 and I am loving it. I am trying out different ROMS and loving the apex launcher. What ROM are you guys using?
I have been using the tab2 lite rom/kernel.I tried all the others and just think it is great.I have it oc'd to 1.35 and the tab is so fast.Its not that I dont like the other roms they are great and I appreciate everything everyones doing for tab2...just think I will run this rom till something better comes along.....MIUI maybe?
Come on devs.We are looking at you.lol
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highandmighty00 said:
I have been using the tab2 lite rom/kernel.I tried all the others and just think it is great.I have it oc'd to 1.35 and the tab is so fast.Its not that I dont like the other roms they are great and I appreciate everything everyones doing for tab2...just think I will run this rom till something better comes along.....MIUI maybe?
Come on devs.We are looking at you.lol
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what did you use to over clock it? And did you get rid of the screen capture and the mini apps
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what did you use to over clock it? And did you get rid of the screen capture and the mini apps
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I use setcpu to over clock all of my devices. The app is cheap but in actuality is very polished and does its job well.
I also removed both for my own reasons (I like a very simplistic look). I would recommend finding the ROM you like, and backing it up and then trying a bunch of different mods.
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Well I recently got a Pantech burst, hence my name. But now im looking for a tablet for personal use and school. Im also interested in the ASUS Eee pad and the nexus 7. Any tips on what to get/reasons to get the tab 2?
I have an gtab 2 10.1 and i have to say that its amazing. Its smooth, has a nice display, good music boxes for a tablet and the battery life is awesome. ( 28 h with intensive use of wifi games and some youtube vids.)
The only thing thats bad about this tablet is the camera, but i think... ITS A TABLET! NOT A CANON EOS!
A little pro for you is the support of the users here in xda
PantechBurstOwner said:
Well I recently got a Pantech burst, hence my name. But now im looking for a tablet for personal use and school. Im also interested in the ASUS Eee pad and the nexus 7. Any tips on what to get/reasons to get the tab 2?
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Be cautious when considering the Asus. I bought a new Transformer Prime 64GB, mainly because it seemed to be rated high and was cutting edge. It never worked right. Twice I had to send it to Texas for "repair", the first time when it was only a few days old. Asus has them locked and the unlocking app doesn't work for many, so there's no way to load CWM or a custom ROM. While just under the return window I sent mine back to Amazon for a refund and ordered the 10.1 Tab 2. It may not be cutting edge, but Samsung stuff is solid and there's a lot of support. You might also want to spend some time reading the threads here on XDA about the Asus before you decide. I wish I did. Just my two cents!
I had the 8gb nexus 7 and loved it but not enough storage for me. I have the Gtab 2 7.0 with a 32gb SD card and am very happy with my purchase. If storage isn't an issue for you I would go with the nexus 7.
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I had the 8gb nexus 7 and loved it but not enough storage for me. I have the Gtab 2 7.0 with a 32gb SD card and am very happy with my purchase. If storage isn't an issue for you I would go with the nexus 7.
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this.
as much as I like my tab 2, for most folk the 16gb nexus 7 is the better purchase.
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I had the 8gb nexus 7 and loved it but not enough storage for me. I have the Gtab 2 7.0 with a 32gb SD card and am very happy with my purchase. If storage isn't an issue for you I would go with the nexus 7.
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Agreed. I've gone through a couple phases with my Tab 2 7" thus far. I was initially a bit disappointed in it as the screen and performance weren't quite as crisp as my Galaxy S2 phone. But after more day-to-day use and comparing it with the hacked Nook Color I'd been using previously it's really started to grow on me and I quite like it now, especially given the price. But if I had to buy new right now I'd probably opt for a 16GB Nexus 7. The extra space provided by an external storage card on my Tab is largely useless as far as most apps are concerned.
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Well I recently got a Pantech burst, hence my name. But now im looking for a tablet for personal use and school. Im also interested in the ASUS Eee pad and the nexus 7. Any tips on what to get/reasons to get the tab 2?
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I got the Tab2 because it shipped with ICS, has a back camera and expandable storage. No regrets. I am not in the US so I wouldn't have been able to access all the Google services. Tab2 was a bit less ($10) than the Nexus for me.
You should search. You would see the other five threads asking the same question.
No, don't buy one. Get an ipad.
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You should search. You would see the other five threads asking the same question.
No, don't buy one. Get an ipad.
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Ha good one. Like I would spend my money on an apple product. Also the nexus tablet is like Two weeks? Two days old. I doubt someone compared it to this but thanks for the negativity downer Dan!
I am very happy with my Tab 2, but in the end I think the i-pad is the better choice: many more tablet apps available.
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Like scottx said buy an IPad so you can support sue happy Apple. They need more money so they can block or delay us in getting new non-apple products.
Seriously, I would do a lot of research and find local stores that have various ones on display and take some time to play with them. This is a big purchase for some of us. I kind of rushed into it and am not sure I made the best decision even though I am happy with my Tab 2. I had a Toshiba Excite 10 and it was great also with the exception that there is still not a lot of developers making apps that are compatible or support the Tegra 3 processor. And the fact that there was a glitch in the camera (which is better than the Tab 2) that caused some issues.
Good luck in you search and decision.
Whatever you do.. get something over 8GB ,,,,,,
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Sure
I'd owned iPad 2 about a year but traded it for Galaxy Tab 2 (5100) so I have experience for both devices.
iPad is absolutely unusable without JailBreak. And you can not guarantee some smart guy will make a jailbreak for new iOs version.
But it is smooth and handy and sweet and yummy. And all girls are yours (if you own Ferrari as well).
SGT2 is scarcely usable with stock Samsung rom. It's sluggish and it lives its own life and doesn't care what exactly you want to get by poking your finger into the screen. Sometimes it may make an exception and mercifully respond to your wishes. May be such an impression comes after iPad since raw android users don't experience anything like that.
Yesterday with help of comrade Endoroid I managed to flash CyanogenMod 9 to my SGT2. And you know what - it is smooth almost like iPad now but you haven't to perform all those Voodoo dance to just put a file on it. So now I have all the mighty might of android swiss knife and smoothness of near of such of Ipad.
As a summary - I would recommend you this device if you can handle flashing a custom rom and don't bother about warranty.
Make your choice (c) John Kramer.
Got my GTab 2 since yesterday. It ran only 1 minute stock (to copy CM9 and gapps on flash) . Now I'm running CM 9 RC2 - CM10 4.1 is in progress by codeworkx. It's so smooth :fingers-crossed: ! Love it! Only thing is, that dock features like audio/hdmi over dock connector aren't supported yet.
I've read in many threads that the build quality of the Nexus 7 is not very good. Asus tried to build it so that it would be easy to tear down and replace parts, and in order to do that, they did not use any glue to hold in the screen. This may been nice for the repair department, but it sucks for the average user constantly getting a loose screen (eventually causing damage to the screen).
Thanks guys, im pretty sure im going to get the tab, and whats this about the nexus 7's screen coming loose. Any links to that??
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Thanks guys, im pretty sure im going to get the tab, and whats this about the nexus 7's screen coming loose. Any links to that??
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1781237
The problem is that there is no glue.
Check out this video on the teardown.
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus-7-Teardown/9623/1
Hmm.. and one more thing. It looks like the screen has yet another problem with "ghosting" images.
http://www.androidauthority.com/nexus-7-ghosting-issues-affect-some-displays-99349/
Oh and also it seems that Tegra 3 chips have a severe "flickering" problem with the display.
Gee.. that is like 3 separate problems directly related to the screen
There is a hardware problem that affects the flickering in the display. When the brightness level is turned down, the IPS panel is affected when the broadcom WiFi chip receives data. So, if you want to use the internet and turn down the brightness, you will get (from what other people say) severe flickering on the screen. Sounds annoying.
I got myself the galaxy tab 2 and overall well i will say for stock rom it does ok if you are doing light work (surfing,and music) although you do see the screen or tapping of screen lag when you are running more things. However overall rather stable for android os 4.0.3. i think there is an update to 4.0.4 but i guess i will stick with 4.0.3 a while longer before moving on to custom roms.
PantechBurstOwner said:
Well I recently got a Pantech burst, hence my name. But now im looking for a tablet for personal use and school. Im also interested in the ASUS Eee pad and the nexus 7. Any tips on what to get/reasons to get the tab 2?
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NO! Don't buy Galaxy Tab 2, I suggest you to buy an Asus Transformer Pad than Gtab 2 because some reasons:
1. It's cheaper
2. It's using NVIDIA Tegra 2 GPU (Transformer) which run graphics very smoothly than Gtab 2 which only powered by PowerVR
3. Asus Transformer's dock is very usable, your tab can transformed into a netbook
4. The dock could extend the battery of the tab up to 6-10 hours as I know
5. The widget and live wallpaper is pretty cool and awesome B)
6. Asus built in apps is very usable too
And the last...
7. It's have good specs for gaming
But I just suggest you and you've still consider which is the best for you
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You should install this rom,if you like stock roms. Very nice indeed. Remove the bloatware,install some sort of app that stop apps from starting on their own, and you will see a nice improvement.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1765313
Hello,
How are you?
So, I'm thinking about buying a tablet.
My main goal is to have a biggest, more comfortable device for web browsing to complement my galaxy nexus.
I was thinking about a nexus 7, but being too close on size to my nexus, made me consider a 10 inch model.
I liked the fact that the nexus 7 is updated by Google and runs stock android, but there seems to be a good community of support for Samsung tabs, and with ROMs like cm9 and cm10, that might not be the deal breaker.
I also looked at the Acer a700, because of its screen. The high res is really appealing, but the price is around 400.
I can get a sweet deal on a tab 10.1, for 200 Euros. So, is it a good bet today?
Thanks.
Cheers
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I'm happy with it especially after ics update
But why don't consider Asus prime?, note 10.1?
Or wait for the next generation from Samsung I think it will be soon
10.1 inch is good for broswe internet go ahead and get ur tab
aelsharawi said:
I'm happy with it especially after ics update
But why don't consider Asus prime?, note 10.1?
Or wait for the next generation from Samsung I think it will be soon
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The reason I'm interested in the tab 10.1 is mainly the price.
At this time I don't know if I would use a tablet all that much.
At first I'm guessing I would just use it in the couch to do some web browsing.
When I go out, I usually just take my nexus in my pocket and it pretty much covers my on the go needs.
If I have a tablet, I might take out out sometimes, but my fear is not using it enough. That's why I am not thinking about a tf700 or iPad 3. I just think I would not use them enough and would probably feel sorry for spending 600 on a device to sit on the shelf...
Anyway, does the tab 10.1 still holds it's own against those tegra 3 tablets?
How is web browsing with the screen's low PPI?
Cheers
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gdourado said:
The reason I'm interested in the tab 10.1 is mainly the price.
At this time I don't know if I would use a tablet all that much.
At first I'm guessing I would just use it in the couch to do some web browsing.
When I go out, I usually just take my nexus in my pocket and it pretty much covers my on the go needs.
If I have a tablet, I might take out out sometimes, but my fear is not using it enough. That's why I am not thinking about a tf700 or iPad 3. I just think I would not use them enough and would probably feel sorry for spending 600 on a device to sit on the shelf...
Anyway, does the tab 10.1 still holds it's own against those tegra 3 tablets?
How is web browsing with the screen's low PPI?
Cheers
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I got my wife a Tab 10.1 on clearance ($250) a couple of months ago. I bought my Nexus 7 at the same time. The only time there's a difference between us performance-wise is 3d gaming. All other times there's no real difference.
EDIT: She's very happy with the device for web browsing.
johnqevil said:
I got my wife a Tab 10.1 on clearance ($250) a couple of months ago. I bought my Nexus 7 at the same time. The only time there's a difference between us performance-wise is 3d gaming. All other times there's no real difference.
EDIT: She's very happy with the device for web browsing.
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Thank you for your reply.
That is really helpful.
can you tell me your opinion about the difference in PPI from both models, since they both have the same resolution, but the nexus is smaller?
Also, how is the tab for typing with the thumbs in portrait mode?
Cheers
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A modded 10.1 with performance tweaks is a joy to use. Battery life is sick @ 7000mah too. I have one for myself and one for the wife and they're wonderful. The kernel I'm running is OC'd to 1.4GHz and GPU @ 400 so while it's still not a match for newer devices, 3d games are still running nicely. A build.prop tweak for increasing buffer size will make web browsing even more enjoyable and most custom roms account for that, I've found.
In portrait mode the tab is still a bit wide...if you have long thumbs you shouldn't have any issues. If you were cursed with bitty digits stick with landscape and key the way you normally would.
I don't know anything about the Tegra 3 devices but I can tell you about my experience with the GT7500 . The main reason I got it was for Web browsing and watching video content on my daily commute. I really like using using this device and I may be imagining it but the display seems crisper since ICS updated. If you can get one really cheap I say buy it
I think it is
I think it is an option, is fast, convenient and runs android. The only think i guess should be reconsidered, is the price since with the introduction of the Kindle Fire HD, its price is now prohibitive.
If you can get it for under 250, I would think so. If you're a spec freak, you might prefer a quad core but you'll pay a lot more for a ten incher.
It depends on what you plan on doing on the tablet.
Yes, I can get it under 250 and I just plan on using it for web browsing, tapatalk, some note taking, videos... no gaming. Just maybe the occasional angry birds type of game.
Cheers
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No. There are better and cheaper options.
ASUS is a better choice..bang for the buck.
Google Nexus is pretty sweet also.
I own these Samsung Galaxy tabs gentlemen...this is an unbiased opinion.
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İn my opinion,in this year (Q4 2012) Galaxy tab 10.1 is still nice tablet.but in 2013 GTab 10.1 become old.my advice is you should not take it.wait 2013 :good:
Hello.
I know it is not state of the art, but all I want is a tablet to web browse on the couch or on the coffee shop.
I am also thinking about an original Motorola xoom. It is almost the same specs as the tab 10.1, but it runs stock android without the need for custom ROMs.
If I get any of the two cheap enough, maybe I could resell them in a couple of months and then pick a better 2013 tablet without much loss.
And until then I could have a nice tablet to browse...
Thoughts?
Does a 1920x1200 screen make a huge difference in browsing experience? Is it worth twice the money?
Cheers! And thanks
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In my opinion the only good thing ever to come from Motorola was their MC68000 CPU chip.
And that is very ancient computer history..
Motorola products do not have good track records.
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Argos have been knocking them out at "half price" in the UK. Mainly 3G models left for home delivery. Likely to be as rare as hens teeth in store. I've ordered a 16GB 3G model for £250 (it's being delivered tomorrow ). Seems like good value to me.
Linky here
Check in store stock at iCheckStock
So, how is the state of CM10 development for the tab 10.1?
Already with project butter and stable?
Cheers
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I can tell you that prior to the ICS update, I was very unhappy with the Galaxy Tab 10.1. It was frustratingly slow, and using it was not a pleasant experience. Then I bought a Nexus 7 and totally fell in love with it. I did end up tweaking it with Nova launcher, but did not root it. After the ICS update I still wasn't happy with the performance of the Galaxy Tab 10.1. Then I added Nova launcher and the same tweaks as for the Nexus 7. Did not root the Galaxy tablet either. And the performance seems to have improved so I am no longer complaining. However, I have to say that I still rarely use the 10" tablet. For me the 7" form factor and the higher pixel density works better. Or the weight. The 10" tablet never leaves the house, and rarely leaves the bedroom. The 7" tablet goes everywhere. I would recommend giving some thought to what size works for you best. Each has it's advantages and disadvantages. The 10" tablet should be better at note taking. I've seen lots of comments that the 10" should be better for videos and web browsing, but that hasn't been my experience. The Nexus 7 seems to have more apps available for it. For example, Flipboard is available for the Nexus 7, but not for the Galaxy tab. (It works fine on the Galaxy tablet, you just can't get the apk from the Google Play store.) If I had $250 to spend and did not have either tablet, I would either buy the Nexus 7, or save up for a better 10" tablet. I don't think the original Galaxy Tab 10.1 is worth $250, not when you can get a tablet that works better for $199.
For the usage you describe either the galaxy tab 10.1 or the xyboard would suffice (the later having microSD expandability). If the Asus Transformer TF300 is in the same price range the it is worthy of a look too (tegra 3), though I'm not sure what the status of development is for that device.
It has taken a long time for development to get to the point that it has for the galaxy tab 10.1 due to how long Samsung decided to wait to release ICS. CM9 development is far along with CM10 still needing work. There are some great devs here as in other device forums.
As for screen resolution one would expect that despite the color accuracy issues of the nexus 7's screen the higher pixel density of that panel would render text better and in my comparison between the two (I own both) that is the case so I would expect no different from a 1080p screen on a 10-inch form factor. That said the 10.1 does have a very nice panel and it's adequate for the use you describe.
Its great that you're doing the research so that you enter into your purchase eyes wide open. Know that you're buying into an aging platform and make sure you can live with the tradeoffs that come with that in order to get the lower price you're looking for.
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I thank you for your insights!
There are really helpful info here!
In regard to the nexus 7, it is a device that is also on my mind. Mainly because as I said, I love my nexus phone and the whole nexus experience of stock android and updates from Google.
Does who own both, how is the web browsing on the 7? Does the higher PPI makes up for the smaller screen?
How is using nexus 7 vs a smartphone like the galaxy nexus? Very different? Or is it a close experience?
Cheers and thanks!
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