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Xoom or galaxy tab 10.1?

Ok so I'm looking into buying an android tablet because I'm going on a road trip to Vegas in July and its a 3 day drive so I wanted to get one to stay entertained on the drive and while we r out there (I can't gamble because I'm only 16 ). So I can't decide between the galaxy tab 10.1 and the xoom.
From what I have heard the xoom's display is kinda dim and glary and the speakers r decent but it has stock 3.0 so it get direct updates which is a huge plus.
But I'm guessing the tab will have some kind of super amoled screen since just about all of their phones do so that would be a plus. But this will have a touchwiz overlay on it which is a downside because Samsung f***ing sucks with updates and I hate waiting. But if google releases the source code for 3.0 then it wont matter because I'm sure devs will make some good roms for it.
So what do you guys think will be better?
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Couldn't find the specs for the Tab 10.1 from Samsung's site but I think I found the specs on some other site and it looks to be comparable to the XOOM (The specs for the Tab: (google "samsung galaxy tab 10.1 specifications" and first link, I would post the link itself but the forum won't let me since I don't have enough posts))
Since the Tab 10.1 isn't out yet, it makes it hard to really compare based off of just specs alone (even more so when the specs can changed from now until released date in June, although they probably won't change it much now since it's getting closer to that date).
What I can see, the Tab 10.1 will have support for playback in 1080p and records in 720p. The XOOM playbacks and records in 720p. The Tab's back facing camera is only 3MP while the XOOM's 5MP. The front facing is 2MP for both.
Both tablets are using the same processor so not much to say about that.
Both tablets are using 3.0 Honeycomb but the Tab 10.1 has a few UI changes but not by much (probably by way of an add APK file since Google is not allowing manufacturers to change the core UI from my understanding, but I could be wrong).
Another thing that's different is that the Tab 10.1 will be for 3G/WiFi only while the XOOM will be upgraded to 4G LTE once available.
I, personally, gotten the XOOM because I feel in love with what it can do plus the fact that it's pure Android allows for easy and fast upgrades. Plus the fact that it's upgraded to 4G LTE is awesome for using the faster speeds once available.

Note that Xoom is NOT a Nexus device.
Meaning, it will get update from Motorola, and NOT directly from Google.
TouchWiz on GTab 10.1 is not deeply integrated on OS like in the Samsung phones. It is just apps and Widgets. It does not alter the Android Honeycomb UI.
That's about Android update.
PhxkinMassacre said:
Ok so I'm looking into buying an android tablet because I'm going on a road trip to Vegas in July and its a 3 day drive so I wanted to get one to stay entertained on the drive and while we r out there (I can't gamble because I'm only 16 ). So I can't decide between the galaxy tab 10.1 and the xoom.
From what I have heard the xoom's display is kinda dim and glary and the speakers r decent but it has stock 3.0 so it get direct updates which is a huge plus.
But I'm guessing the tab will have some kind of super amoled screen since just about all of their phones do so that would be a plus. But this will have a touchwiz overlay on it which is a downside because Samsung f***ing sucks with updates and I hate waiting. But if google releases the source code for 3.0 then it wont matter because I'm sure devs will make some good roms for it.
So what do you guys think will be better?
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Good points. But I would only get the wifi version of either one because I already have a rooted evo to tether to. So I guess ill just wait it out and see some reviews of the Samsung tab when its out.
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Note that Xoom is NOT a Nexus device.
Meaning, it will get update from Motorola, and NOT directly from Google.
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True, but I said it as such due to the fact that the updates will be much faster since there is no core UI changes

I do love my Xoom, but play on upgrading to either the 10.1 or 8.9 Galaxy tab when the 3G/4G versions are out. It's significantly lighter and thinner than the Xoom (almost half the weight, and yes, it does matter) and I personally look forward to TouchWiz with resizable widgets and such, though I realize I'm in the minority.
Once it's out, go to the store, try them both, see how they feel. something like a tablet (or ebook reader, I got the original Nook over a Kindle because of this) it really matter how it feels in your hands, and that differs with every person.

The sexy thin Tab 10.1 for sure, if you can wait until they come out, if you need a tab now thats another debate

Gtab records 1080p video but it doesn't have HDMI out alsobwhy haven't you looked at the see pad transirmer that's my tablet and it is awesome it has IPS display and no the Gtab does not AMOLED screens

Galaxy tab 10.1 vs EEE prime vs IPAD2

Just found out i am going to get lucky this year and get a tablet for xmas.
one of my options are the Galaxy Tab 10.1.
what i would like to do is get some input from people who already have them. Would you stick with the 10.1, Go with the EEE transformer prime when it comes out on Dec. 19th, or go with an IPAD2?
i have the Galaxy S phone, and i'm loving it, i have the superclean Gingerbread on it, and it just works. My gut is saying i should just go with the EEE prime, but if a lot of you would never part with your galaxy tab 10.1 because it is higher quality over the EEE, i might get that instead. do you have any issues with the 10.1? if so what are they?
thanks for any help you may give to help me make a decision.

if you love your phone get a android tablet. that knocks out the ipad2(which is good because apple sucks and you want control over your device)
the tab is a great tablet but if you have a choice in free tablets for xmas get the new prime. that tablet is like the next generation of tablets.

If you're going to get an Android tablet this year, get the Prime. It's the first second-gen tablet that's been released and is significantly more powerful than the G-Tab. So far, the shortcomings of it are: 1) QC issues which also effected the first Transformer, 2) Wi-Fi only supports 2.4GHz, and 3) the speakers are mono and on one side of the device. Good luck trying to get one. The pre-order process turned in to a cluster f- and all the major retailers are now saying at least after X-Mas and most likely in January. Read the posts in the Prime forum.
As for iOS vs. Android, that's a personal decision. Apple's dropped the price of refurbs and you can pick up a 32GB for $499. New casing, new battery, same one year warranty.

Yeah, after looking at some of the threads in the prime forum, looks like the galaxy tab 10.1 is my only choice if i'm going to get it for xmas.
damn, was really looking forward to getting the prime.
just a quick question, is samsung, or the dev's working on porting ICS to the 10.1?
thanks

eppo12- said:
Yeah, after looking at some of the threads in the prime forum, looks like the galaxy tab 10.1 is my only choice if i'm going to get it for xmas.
damn, was really looking forward to getting the prime.
just a quick question, is samsung, or the dev's working on porting ICS to the 10.1?
thanks
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Both. Samsung's announced ICS officially in Q1 and the devs, including CM, are working on a build. The Tab's got to represent Samsung until March or April when a next-gen is released so it wouldn't surprise me if it's one of the first tablets to get ICS in order to extend its selling life. And since Samsung was Google's launch partner for ICS with the GN they're way ahead of everyone else when it comes to working with the OS.
Don't be disappointed in getting a Tab. It's got the best display by far, great build quality, and Samsung's always the best when it comes to audio and video codecs. If you look at benchmarks the Tab outperformed all other Teg2 based tablets. I don't know where you source your music but the Tab is the only one that supports Rhapsody's DRM via MTP. With a subscription, you can download thousands of songs to play locally when you're not connected to Wi-Fi. And check out Plex and PlayOn for streaming.
P.S. - Get it at Costco. They have a 90 day return policy so if something better comes along you can always return it.

"the speakers are mono and on one side of the device"
WTF lol, your kidding right?
I love my 10.1... I sometimes get lost just looking how pretty stuff looks on that screen... Just perfect.
Running stock 3.2 (Grabbed from here) and rooted, that's it. No fancy custom roms or kernel.
There is one thing you DO need and that's the touchscreentune app from the market and that needs root (WHich is pretty easy to do). It will cost you 5 bucks but it will make a world of difference for your tablet. Samsung, for reasons unknown, decided that you must have around 1 second "lag" before the touchscreen respond to your touch. With this app and it's default setting, it will react instantly and just makes the tablet feel so much better.
Ohh yeah, and the 10.1 has stereo speakers which do a pretty decent job, if you ask me. Great for youtube and the odd tv show.
Don't own any apple products, but if you like slow and smooth UI animations, I would go with that, since people complain that they don't have to wait half a second for a "smooth" animation for finish on Android.
My wife has a iPhone 4, I tried sending a picture on it, by Email. I picked the picture, then I had to wait for it to be "smoothly" animated into my email... Instead of just putting it my email and let's get to the sending part. If you fancy that sort of thing, get the iPad.

I would get an ipad2, I would almost rather have my load 1 than the galaxy tab I sold the ipad to buy.
The ipad just works, it has better accessories, better games and a hell of a lot less lag. I also didn't have to root it, flash custom roms and mods to make me satisfied with how it worked.
Sure it doesn't have flash but it seems like android can't play any flash videos that smoothly anyways, but different strokes for different folks.
I love my Samsung vibrant for its customizability but I believe ios is better for tablets.
Oh and I have not yet used or heard much about the transformer prime but it seems better spec'd

streetrider nick said:
I would get an ipad2, I would almost rather have my load 1 than the galaxy tab I sold the ipad to buy.
The ipad just works, it has better accessories, better games and a hell of a lot less lag. I also didn't have to root it, flash custom roms and mods to make me satisfied with how it worked.
Sure it doesn't have flash but it seems like android can't play any flash videos that smoothly anyways, but different strokes for different folks.
I love my Samsung vibrant for its customizability but I believe ios is better for tablets.
Oh and I have not yet used or heard much about the transformer prime but it seems better spec'd
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I am the exact opposite ...... I sold my iPad2 on craigslist and bought the Galaxy Tab 10.1..
IMHO the iPad is overrated and is very limited..... iPad's are for people who want simplistic and ease of use .... Android and the Tab is for people who want options.... I quickly grew very tired and bored with the rather bland iPad and iOS....
You description / understanding of rooting is different from mine.. I don't look at it as a need to do thing, I look at it as a way to improve my user experience... Perhaps I am doing something wrong with my Tab because I never had any lag issues on my Tab... And I believe 3.2 solved the perceived lag issues... I am on Task's 8.0 ROM and it ROCKS!
A jailbroken iPad2 still has less customization options than a stock un-rooted Tab... Root the Tab and bam! Customization galore..... Every iPad out there looks exactly the same.. Bland and dry.... Other than different wallpapers, every iPad looks exactly the same...
To boot, 512MB RAM... Really?????? It is 2011 is it not?
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I love android, I love my s2. I loved my galaxy tab p1000. However 10.1 and Xoom suck because of a very very slow os despite upgrade to 3.2. Ipad2 is super fast. I prefer android with gingerbread and will buy a ics tablet but honeycomb is too slow.

This thread is funny... iPad faster? Perhaps a split second but the trade off is a very very limited OS...I will take Android and the blink of an eye slower (not even noticeable to me) for my widgets and customization options...
#funny

Nope. I have used Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 with HC 3.2 And the Ipad 2 is several times as fast and several times smoother. Whether it is just scrolling through apps or browsing on the internet.
IMO for a person who is used to Gingerbread on a S2 or Ipad/2/Ios, HC is not usable on a Dual Core. It is like running Windows 7 on a Pentium 3 1GHz.
ICS will probably be different and will probably be faster or as fast as GC.
So I would recommend buying an Ipad 2 right now and upgrading to ICS in a few months!

I've been drinking the Apple Kool-Aid since 1985 with the FatMac 512K. I'm an old geek in the IT world, and have owned more computers than many young 'uns have ever touched.
I've never paid full price for any computer, other than Macintoshes, however. And, for the most part, the quality and integration has been worth the premium.
However, I have several friends with iPads, and though they make nice remote controls for the AppleTV, and good book readers, IMHO there is no justification for the ridiculous prices that they command.
I feel that the Galaxy Tab with Task's ROM version 8 is the iPad's equal in usability, its superior in customizability, and kills it in value per dollar.
The display is a higher resolution, finer dot pitch, in 16:10 for movies (closer than the iPad's 4:3), etc. i typically love Apple's products, and can see the added value. However, I'd never pay more than $300 for an iPad. And I have no buyer's remorse at the $325 for my Galaxy Tab. Plus another $10 to Task650 in thanks.

aaksheytalwar said:
Nope. I have used Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 with HC 3.2 And the Ipad 2 is several times as fast and several times smoother. Whether it is just scrolling through apps or browsing on the internet
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You must have used a magical iPad and a defective Tab.... While I agree the iPad is a tad faster and smoother, I would not exaggerate the difference at the cost of credibility......
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Would you trade n7 for galaxy tab 10.1?

Would u trade ur n7 for a galaxy tab 10.1. My friend wants to trade me strait up. I like the bigger tab but I love the n7 tho.
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Nope. Sammy can go take a hike with their 10.1.

You get a bigger screen, but that's the only major benefit. The Nexus 7 has a better CPU (Tegra 3 vs Tegra 2, quad core vs dual), and is probably going to have a better development scene (however, I have no idea on the current state of development on the GT 10.1).
Edit: Hmm, it also seems to get cellular and rear camera. If you want cellular, and have a want for a rear camera, I don't see it as that bad of a deal.

No, I've never liked 10" tablets, iPads or otherwise. The N7 is the perfect size for me.
Don't need the cellular since I can tether to my HOX, and taking pictures or video with a tablet makes you look like an idiot.

Yeah I like that it has a rear can but do t really need it I have an s3. But I really like the bigger screen and as fas as the development I already feel too caught up with my s3 that I just flashed paranoid android to my n7 and left it alone.
I guess I just wanna feel good about giving up a newer product for an older model
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If you can sell the Tab for more than the cost of the Nexus 7, then it might be worth it to make the trade, sell the Tab, and then buy a new Nexus 7.

True but If I trade id just keep it. But thanks guys for ur input
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The Tab 10.1 is a nice device. Its a generation behind in specs. I liked my 10" Transformer but it had a micro SD card and HDMI out. I found it tedious to lug around and eventually stopped using it because of such. Everytime I wanted to use it, it was dead.
I sold my transformer for $200. The N7 was $250+tax. Not sure what the Tab sells for but they are probably being flooded in the market since the 10" Note is out.
Sammy stopped updating the Tab a long time ago. I'm not sure if it even officially got ICS let alone jelly bean. The N7 has JB and will get KeyLime Pie when its released and probably LoliPop.
Tell him to sell it over in the Market and pick up a N7.
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I've always hated larger tablets... once you hit 10" tablets I find little reason to not just get a laptop and be done with it. While the N7 is smaller, it's very workable. We're remodeling some areas of our house, and I keep a few pictures and measurement notes down in my N7. When I'm at Lowes, it's nice to pull out the N7 and get a better idea of what I'm facing at home. Since the N7 fits in my back pocket, it's only another +1 to that court.
That's just my 2c though. I've talked to some people who love 10" tablets. I personally don't, and on that premise alone I wouldn't do the trade. That being said, you're also swapping out for slightly older hardware too. Nothing wrong with that if it's worth it, but I see no compelling reason that I personally would do that trade.

Heavy tab 10.1，I like my N7

NNNNOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
thats the first thing i want to say to you.
i am ex tab 10.1 owner.
the performance is TERRIBLE!!!!
i started using from stock honeycomb 3.1
its laggy beyond words, and i was forced to learn to root and flash custom roms that are 3.2
things got SLIGHTLY better but it was still laggy.
simple things like typing on keyboard, bringing up on screen keyboard, scrolling are still choppy.
then ICS came, and i flash various customs like AOKP and CM9
things got better again, overall UI is acceptable, no where near buttery smooth but still ok.
however only the UI smoothness improved in ICS, apps, games, any slightly 3D games will play in "slow motion" or "stop frame" style.
the tegra2 just dont cut it. its a dissapointment.
i sold my tab10,1 the moment i saw google IO announce nexus 7.
nexus 7 is superior in every way then that tab10.1 in terms of performance, responsiveness.
the only weakness is the small screen, but that gives it another benefit which is better portability.
the tab 10,1 browser crashes on a daily basis.
memory management is terrible even on ics.
try load FB desktop page on tab 10,1 stock browser, keep scrolling down,
as the FB page loads more newsfeeds, the scrolling becomes soo laggy, and it will start FC eventually.
NEVER trade your nexus 7 for tab10.1. you will surely regret it.

I actually did the opposite, sold my Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 and got the N7. Main reason was the weight and portability, I lasted 30 minutes with the 10.1 in the bath and my arms got tired. With the N7, I can watch movies anywhere, holding anyway I want and it feels great. Plus it's much more snappier (I did install a CM10 nightly on the 10.1 which was much better than its stock ICS but wasn't as great).

Nexus 7 is the best Android tablet out there in my opinion. Not just the best 7 inch, the best. I'm somewhat of a perfectionist when it comes to tech. I've had an Acer Iconia 10" and 7", Transformer prime, Galaxy tab 2, and now this. Not quite every tablet on the market but a pretty decent cross section. I've also had a close look at a few other tabs.
The only thing that comes close is the transformer prime. That thing is ok but it's harder to hold, much heavier and the dock seems like a nice idea but ends up being a pita in practice.
This thing is a little pocket rocket, very powerful whilst being very easy to hold even for long periods and extremely portable.
By the way the galaxy tab is ****. Samsung don't even bother to support it so it was still on honeycomb when I last checked two weeks ago.
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Should I get this?

I found someone willing to trade their Samsung Galaxy 2 7.7 for a PS Vita. I bought the Vita when it was released, but never touched it. I've been wanting a tablet because I need a large portable device to view documents and whatnot. As much as I'd like a Nexus 10 or a iPad 4th gen, I simply can't afford it.
How is the speed of this device and overall screen quality? Would it be considered a fair trade? I haven't been able to get anyone to consider trading the Vita for a 2nd gen iPad or a better Galaxy tablet. I'm just worried the CPU on this isn't so great.

It's a really great tablet. I have the tab 10.1, but the screen is crystal clear and bright enough to read in moderate sunlight. While the stock ROM is a tad laggy, just get CM10 and your speed worries are over.
Posted from my Galaxy Tab with CM10

Hgaara said:
I found someone willing to trade their Samsung Galaxy 2 7.7 for a PS Vita. I bought the Vita when it was released, but never touched it. I've been wanting a tablet because I need a large portable device to view documents and whatnot. As much as I'd like a Nexus 10 or a iPad 4th gen, I simply can't afford it.
How is the speed of this device and overall screen quality? Would it be considered a fair trade? I haven't been able to get anyone to consider trading the Vita for a 2nd gen iPad or a better Galaxy tablet. I'm just worried the CPU on this isn't so great.
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Simply go for it its great device.and about cpu its dual core omap which not a old age processor.although now a days we got quad core on devices but dual core also gives good performance.
Screen is good with 1024x600 and tab gives full hd playback.
Books reading is average experience.
And it plays almost all hd games smoothly.so go for it.

Sweet that's reassuring. Although someone offered to trade the vita for a Galaxy tab 10.1. I believe it's the v version would that be a better choice?
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I too am wondering if I should get a Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 (7 inch). Amazon has them on sale (currently out of stock, but still allowing orders) for $179. I have a $30 credit for pre-ordering Windows 8. I also have $56.58 in rewards points from my Amazon credit card. This brings the price down to $92.42.
My goal is to find a 7 inch tablet that I can use for gaming and occasional movie watching via Netflix and Hulu Plus. Yeah, the Nexus 7 would probably be superior, but I'd never be able to get the price down to this level.
Should I get one?

the SDcard slot in my Galaxy Player 4.0 is dieing (bump the player the wrong way and is says the SD card has been removed and then remounts it seconds later). Anyone here have one of those and can compare sound quality thru HEADPHONES, my primary use will be screen off music playback, so the 4,000MAH battery sounds real nice versus the 1200MAH battery in my SGP 4.0 but I need an idea of the sound quality of the tab 2 7" before I jump on this Amazon 180 dollar deal.

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the SDcard slot in my Galaxy Player 4.0 is dieing (bump the player the wrong way and is says the SD card has been removed and then remounts it seconds later). Anyone here have one of those and can compare sound quality thru HEADPHONES, my primary use will be screen off music playback, so the 4,000MAH battery sounds real nice versus the 1200MAH battery in my SGP 4.0 but I need an idea of the sound quality of the tab 2 7" before I jump on this Amazon 180 dollar deal.
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Sound quality is pretty good

Well I ordered up one earlier today in the "bubble"between last night and now when Amazon had it listed as INSTOCK not the backorder message there now and last night, instead of sorting thru this page can you point me to the basics of Rooting, Stock Recovery Files, PIT files, best kernel/ROMS do I need to backup my EFS (was an issue on my SGP 4.0 when the guys that ported CM7 converted the file system from rfs to mtd and the script wiped the EFS folder)? Is there a Newbs start here thread? I want to be on a custom ROM before bed the day I get it, Also I've got a 64 GB microSD that was formatted and used in my 4.0, that should be plug and play at this point right?

I ordered one, too. I figure that nothing could come close to this for the $92.42 I'm paying. The Nexus 7 would be better, but not worth the additional money. And I just read that Samsung is starting to roll out the Jelly Bean update, too. Well, in France anyway.
I'll see what the stock ROM is like, but if I don't like it I'll switch to an AOKP ROM.
I'm also hoping that 8 GB (4.5 GB available) will be enough. If not, just another reason for a custom ROM...
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liteon163 said:
I ordered one, too. I figure that nothing could come close to this for the $92.42 I'm paying. The Nexus 7 would be better, but not worth the additional money. And I just read that Samsung is starting to roll out the Jelly Bean update, too. Well, in France anyway.
I'll see what the stock ROM is like, but if I don't like it I'll switch to an AOKP ROM.
I'm also hoping that 8 GB (4.5 GB available) will be enough. If not, just another reason for a custom ROM...
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Yeah, I cashed in my change bucket at the coinstar (loading it to an Amazon gift code, since they don't take a fee that way) and got the first 26 bucks that way, and there are several Jellybean ROMs on here already from what I've read so far.

liteon163 said:
I ordered one, too. I figure that nothing could come close to this for the $92.42 I'm paying. The Nexus 7 would be better, but not worth the additional money. And I just read that Samsung is starting to roll out the Jelly Bean update, too. Well, in France anyway.
I'll see what the stock ROM is like, but if I don't like it I'll switch to an AOKP ROM.
I'm also hoping that 8 GB (4.5 GB available) will be enough. If not, just another reason for a custom ROM...
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i ended up getting a 7" galaxy tab 2 from sears.(they tell me 7-10 business days before i get it) paid $177.99 ~190 with tax..
i wanted the N7 32gb since i couldve got it for 220... but ive seen some scary things about burn in on the screen and i saw a few that have melted..
hopefully not long after i get my tab ill start cracking on some roms for the community(dont expect too much. im only a beginner with making roms)

Well my tab 2 7" I ordered on Thanksgiving arrived Today with standard Amazon shipping.

I have ordered the Galaxy Tab 2 7.0 the other day. I am waiting for it to get here. But from what I read, and the videos I seen, it does seem to be a really great tablet for the price. I cant wait for mine to come in!. lol

Galaxy note 10.1 2014 after one year

I have owned note about one year, still play it every day, and find new functions and hidden features now and then.
Note 10.1 is so a versatile device that you can never take full advantage of it.
It is still the king of tablets at the end of 2014, and is the most underrated device in 2014(just see all the reviews at Android blogs.)
Note 10.1 is everything,
It is my camera, note 10.1 has the best camera among tablets (although most commentators just dismissed it as no so useful, and ipad air 2 suddenly changed their opinions)
It is my GPS, my note is wifi version, but can still be used as navigation device without data connection, and save phone a lot of battery power.
It is my noting and sketching book. Thanks to Lecture notes and Papyrus, I seldom use paper and pencil now. Paperless world isn't just a fiction.
It is my laptops, using Debian Jessie in chroot, and s-pen as mouse, I enjoy my geek life in two great world, Android and Linux.
I am waiting for note 10.1 2015,
64 bits computation
Multitasking perfectly implemented ( note4 already showed it)
flawless bluetooth connection
metal and slim frame
13M camera.
These are what I expect.

They should just update the software on the 2014 and we should be good but Sammy takes waaaaaay too long.

The screen still blows me away. I've owned a crapload of tablets and nothing else is really in it's class when you consider the usefulness of the SPen on something this size.
Unfortunately, Samsung is just awful with software, so a decent newer ROM is probably as good as it gets. I don't see anything out there I'd rather have.
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Has there been any rumors for when we will get Lollipop?

Before the 2016 election.

http://www.techradar.com/news/mobil...spotted-in-samsung-s-own-app-listings-1270810
Waiting for this to be released. I skipped 2014 version and still on the first generation. But its too sluggish these days,,,,, Need a replacement soon.

So far, so good. Been using it for around 6 months. I have the WiFi version, which I will sell soon and get me an LTE version.
I am very happy with it. Owning an iPad Air also, make me think that the iPad is only for my wife and some fun games. Nothing else.
On the other hand, the Note has been proven a beast of a tablet. I hook it up with a BT mouse & keyboard, use Screen Mirroring to my TV and I have a nice laptop
Only thing that bothers me, is the somewhat laggy scrolling through the home pages. Hope it wont be like that with the LTE version.

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http://www.techradar.com/news/mobil...spotted-in-samsung-s-own-app-listings-1270810
Waiting for this to be released. I skipped 2014 version and still on the first generation. But its too sluggish these days,,,,, Need a replacement soon.
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I think Samsung are stepping-back and re-evaluating their products. They got killed on Galaxy S5 and having way too many Tab lines last year. I don't expect a new Note 10.1 until they can either put an 810 or their own 64bit chip in it. It will have their new look per the alpha and Note 4 lines (I immediately covered my 2014 Note 10.1 with a case, that fake stitching slippery plastic back is awful). I think we may see the new Note 10.1 (2015) around when the Tab Pro and Note 12.2 came out last year (1st quarter).

It is still cheaper to buy a Galaxy note 10.1 2014?

Bought the 2014 edition from dustinhome in norway for around $200 couple of weeks ago. was a great buy and comming from the 2012 edition its a decent upgrade.
(i know its a somewhat old thread. but i love this thing)

leyvatron said:
They should just update the software on the 2014 and we should be good but Sammy takes waaaaaay too long.
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they shouldn't play evil and they have to release our device's kernel codes ASAP,and we are fine without their trashy Touchwiz thing and their no worthy support

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they shouldn't play evil and they have to release our device's kernel codes ASAP,and we are fine without their trashy Touchwiz thing and their no worthy support
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Define fine, one of the primary reasons to buy this tablet was/is the proper use of its size (multi-window) and the S-pen. And while S-pen support in AOSP is kind of good, multi-window support (which IMO is even bigger deal, in all tablets actually) is nowhere to be found.
I'm with you, AOSP is better than any OEM rom, but AOSP mostly cares about phones, has very few (if any) tablet specific characteristics...

Stevethegreat said:
Define fine, one of the primary reasons to buy this tablet was/is the proper use of its size (multi-window) and the S-pen. And while S-pen support in AOSP is kind of good, multi-window support (which IMO is even bigger deal, in all tablets actually) is nowhere to be found.
I'm with you, AOSP is better than any OEM rom, but AOSP mostly cares about phones, has very few (if any) tablet specific characteristics...
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ive seen some efforts to implement multi window!
for example Resurrection rom is among em:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal.../sm-p601-cyanogenmod-12-0-unofficial-t3052009
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=61619511&postcount=379
not installed or tested it yet, ive downloaded it some days ago ,and still backing up my device so i can format it... not sure how itll do

renux said:
ive seen some efforts to implement multi window!
for example Resurrection rom is among em:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal.../sm-p601-cyanogenmod-12-0-unofficial-t3052009
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=61619511&postcount=379
not installed or tested it yet, ive downloaded it some days ago ,and still backing up my device so i can format it... not sure how itll do
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Thanks for the heads up . I will probably try it in the following days ...

I never really liked multiwindow, so I'm fine with AOSP, multi-window always got me to windows that were too small for me, but that might be my eyesight...

To bad the build quality is junk. My display ribbon came loose a few times now and I decided to leave it at home now.
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I never really liked multiwindow, so I'm fine with AOSP, multi-window always got me to windows that were too small for me, but that might be my eyesight...
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Split-Screen basically splits the screen into two 7-inch screens, most phones (for example) are way less than that. Also the best use that I've found for it is to merely "minimize" a window. That's especially useful if it something that can't properly run in the background like youtube, so I have youtube playing, doing my thing and if I listen something that may need my attention then I simply drag the "minimized" youtube down. One last use is that when an app refers to another the original is not "closed". For example my file manager points to a doc file, when I press to open, it opens on a split screen (almost like on a PC), basically letting me to choose on whether I'd "maximize" it (all the while the file browser is still open) or "minimize" it for later use. This "omni-presence" of windows makes things much faster and direct to me than simply using the recents panel (alt+tab equivalent), although it has its issues too.
Of course the above cannot be done with "drawable" windows (like the ones that exist in AOSP roms) or the ones that can be "drawn" by the S-pen in TW roms. Like you I find them useless as those mini-windows are way too small for proper interaction.
To sum up, multi-window (mostly of the split-screen variety) is an acquired taste. For the first few months I never used it, but once it becomes part of one's "work flow" it's hard to go back. In fact lack of (proper) split-screen is what has kept me away from AOSP for this device. Every single of my devices (other than Note tablet) have been using AOSP before long...

http://www.youmobile.org/blogs/entr...-Lollipop-Update-Confirmed-and-In-development

Is this still worth picking up? I see no 10.1 2015 or 2016 on the horizon. I played with the Tab A with s-pen and while I liked the size and features the screen is a big disappointment. Having a note 5 I guess you just get used to a clear screen. I see that 5.1.1 is out and hoping for good reviews and better battery life.
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If you get a good deal and care for the pen I would think it's still worth it! I got mine summer last year and am mostly happy with it! There is also still very good support from devs like @joshndroid who's providing us with temasek's unofficial CM13 for the tablet. Still has some issues, but I'm confident there will be a well running CM13 for it eventually. I was also very happy with temasek's CM12.1 version for it (am considering to go back to that until some of the CM13 issues are sorted). I cannot tell you much about the stock lollipop experience, as I never really used that.
I have to say that for me the ability to run a full desktop linux on it is what makes it most useful to me.
There are now a few reasonably priced windows tablets with pen support, in particular something like the Cube i7 Stylus which is pretty interesting (I'm not talking about higher classed devices like Surface or Lenovo's Thinkpad Yogas as they play in a different price league). But you should probably be able to pick up a used Note for still much cheaper and get a very nice experience.