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10.1 and ICS?

hows the DEV and ROM builds for ICS on the 10.1 TAB?
Considering buying one
Or should I hold off and wait for a new model to come out?

mhx said:
hows the DEV and ROM builds for ICS on the 10.1 TAB?
Considering buying one
Or should I hold off and wait for a new model to come out?
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I would wait for Samsung's next generation of tablets to hit with the quadcore Exynos SOC that should outperform the Tegra 3 and at least lower the prices of current models some. Either that or buy an iPad 3rd gen.. I'll catch hell for that, but it is a great tablet! Good luck with your decision!

There haven't been any leaked ICS builds yet and the CM build's don't have the camera working.
My 10.1 with 3.2 runs netflix and with bubble pnp and MX video will play all my media on my nas which the ipad won't do.
If you want to use it as a media device it works great as it is. The ICS release for the i9100 has left me convinced that Samsung will throw some ass UI on ICS and it might be a bit snappier (debatable) but my Tab works great now for what it is.

I am using the KANG ROM for ICS. Works well. No camera functionality yet because Samsung has not released the kernel yet. I never use it however, actually have a Canon for that!
KANG WIFI 10.1 ICS P7510
However, as previous poster said, you are in a unique position. I would definitely wait for the next gen tablet. Or if you like a device locked down but nice, get the new ipad. nothing worse than getting a new gizmo, and a new version is released at the store in a couple months!
If money is not an issue, snag a tablet now, maybe the ASUS prime (tegra 3) or the 10.1 at best buy, get the buyback option, and trade it in later when a new one comes out.

If you can wait a couple more months then I would say go with a newer gen tablet that will be coming out. If you cant and you want this one, I would say try to get it second hand off somebody as I think you will be more happy with it.

The lack of updates from samsung sucks. I have a skyrocket and still no working ICS from samsung. I am an active DEV for the skyrocket..
Its just sad that we dont get the latest updates from samsung/google.

Its worth buying and trying out some of these roms. The price of this tab has come down.

mhx said:
The lack of updates from samsung sucks. I have a skyrocket and still no working ICS from samsung. I am an active DEV for the skyrocket..
Its just sad that we dont get the latest updates from samsung/google.
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I have the Note and I can't wait until ICS!

I just bought it because the $400 price point just hit me right. I like it so far but have not hacked it yet. If you want anything newer it's going to cost more and I doubt there is going to be another price drop anytime in the near future.

XDA is no longer worth my time.

I love mine and I love all the roms that you can try on them.

I got mine off craiglist a month ago that came with a case, carry pouch, sd card adapter, 3 anti gloss screen protector, 16 gig mircro sd, all original wires and its in perfect condition for $350
It the 32 gig model btw
Got it rooted right away and installed the p4wifi build 26
Its been a month and I still haven't gotten any problems
Absolutely love it as I use it to stream movies, shows, sports all type of media and ipad can't do any of that.
I also use it for work
If you can find it for about $300 its still a great deal considering you'll save $100+ compared to buying retail + tax
I played with the new ipad yesterday and all I can say is it got a very gorgeous screen and it's very smooth but it still can't do certain things I need my tablets to do and it's very pricey

I would suggest you wait till a newer one comes out. Samsung is really pathetic when it comes to updates. I have had the 10.1 3G since it was released. I have tried the ICS roms from Mabalito & Pershoot since months. They are pretty good but battery life reallllly sucks & WIFI connectivity problems are far too many since the last few builds. I have also used the iPad 2 along with this and the user experience is just a little bit better. Somehow I am so frustrated with Samsung for not ironing out these little nags with the tablet. They have made a mess of this gorgeous piece of hardware with some very ordinary and laggy touchwiz based software.

aashayjardosh said:
They have made a mess of this gorgeous piece of hardware with some very ordinary and laggy touchwiz based software.
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Have you tried alternative launchers? Personally I rate ADW and GoLauncher way above TouchWiz (each to their own though). Admittedly I'm smitten with ICS AOSP now as I have that on my phone and my soon-to-be-replaced 7" tab, but I found the GB experience tripled as soon as I stopped using TW.

its pretty funny the lack of love samsung gives everyone in terms of updates for just about every device they make!
no device is perfect

I just pulled the trigger on a refurbed 10.1 on woot.
Hoping it'll be a good replacement for my old Viewsonic G Tablet.

The Galaxy 10.1 is a good choice for a useable TAB,
there are many good custom roms available, HC and ICS.
(yes, no camera yet at all ICS, only on HC)
You can mount windows shares with cifsmanager app,
and watch all videos with bsplayer app direct per directory,
or have access to all your files on the shares.
Realtime TV from a Dreambox with DreamDroid app,
all SD channels of the Box on the TAB.
(HD sucks because wifi only 65Mbps)
With Remote RDP Lite app you have a real RDP Client to use a windows remote session on the TAB.
Musik per DLNA upnp app from the mediaserver to the amplifier, and watch the files and cover on the TAB.
(i do it all so...it make's me happy)
All the suggested apps are free of cost...

some game is not running in ICS on my galaxy tab 10.1

I love my Tab 10.1, however, its inability to handle full 1080p HD videos is really frustrating. For instance my Galaxy S2 generates full 1080p videos using its default settings, but these videos can't be played on my Tab until I convert them to 720p using Handbrake. This a really annoying process. I should be able to play videos produced by my S2 using its default settings on my Tab without any extra steps.
My advice is, if you can wait a couple of months, get the next generation of Tab, which will hopefully have issues like this resolved.

Archer, ADW is really good! Thanks!
Both the ICS ROMs available as of today:
AOKP build 28 has that horrible MAC address issue.
Pershoots ROM (27th March) also has issues with WiFi & Personal Hotspot. Other than that it is pretty good.
Ofcourse one cannot blame these guys who are putting in so much hard work day in and day out for our devices.
It is really Sam'dump' that has to really get their slouchy asses off to releasing an ICS ROMm so Pershoot & Co. can take their builds forward with proper drivers. It seems all their attention is diverted to the Galaxy S2 currently. The Tab and Note both are riddled with an outdated OS. Its almost April 2012, Samsung seems to be sleeping. On the other hand ICS has been floating on rival companies tablets since months now!

Nexus 7 quad core tablet for only $199 - $249

So what is everyone's thoughts?
Check out the specs:
7-inch IPS display with a resolution of 1280x800 and a 178-degree viewing angle
Android 4.1 Jelly Bean
1.3Ghz quad-core Tegra 3 processor
nVidia GeForce 12-core GPU
1GB of RAM
8GB or 16GB of internal storage
1.2 MP front-facing camera, no rear camera
NFC with Google Wallet
Android Beam
Battery life estimated at 9 hours
They say it will be $199 to $249. That's the same and cheaper than we paid for our GT7's.
Source: http://rootzwiki.com/news/_/article...ice-leaked-in-internal-training-document-r919

Nice, I could always give my wife my Galaxy Tab 2 7"
and get a new tablet for myself, win win

I'll probably end up returning my tab to Costco and getting this. Maybe I have a lemon, but the screen's touch response has been pretty frustrating and I'd rather just not deal with it anymore.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2

Just looking at the specs i think it will be a good deal, BUT some bad things in my opinion are:
Nvidia..
Resolution, i own the 7" with 1024x600 and all the web sites fits perfectly on the screen when in landscape mode, with 1280 you will have some extra empty borders making the fonts somewhat smaller without any browser tricks, higher resolution to me is equals to more detailed but smaller things
Hope it haves gps...
This is not confirmed but it seems it will be asus, after reading some feedback about them i dont think they are a good choice
In my opinion the better things are:
Jelly bean
Nexus, it will have a lot of dev and google support
A quadcore, i think i dont need it since i rarely play games on my tablet.
Nfc, i dont have any use for it but someone will...
Im not talking about battery life because we all know all manufacturers lie.
I will look closer at the nexus 7 forums, and maybe i will sell my tab and get it but i dont think so

I was kind of disappointed when hearing this, but I have really gotten over it. To fit those specs into that price range they are going to have to skimp on a lot of other stuff. Also, the Quad core won't do much as Android doesn't really use all 4 cores unless you are doing benchmarks or playing one of Nvidia's games.
The only real advantage that has is the screen, but who know's the quality of the screen, also for a 7" tablet I would rather have the lower resolution.
The only thing I really see for this tablet is the dev support, which after getting a fully functional CM9 port, I don't really care too much as that is probably the only thing I would run on it anyways.
Finally, I just came from an Asus tablet and while I loved the thing it did have a good bit of flaws and a lot of angry customers. My ASUS laptop works great but I guess that doesn't carry over to their tablet division.

Keep in mind that this is an Asus built unit - don't get too excited. My Tab 2 7.0 browses better than my Prime.
Google is going to regret the day they partnered with Asus... Check back in about 4 months...
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using Tapatalk 2

rcatron said:
Keep in mind that this is an Asus built unit - don't get too excited. My Tab 2 7.0 browses better than my Prime.
Google is going to regret the day they partnered with Asus... Check back in about 4 months...
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using Tapatalk 2
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Count me as one of those "angry" former Asus customers. Two laptops and one
tablet, all gave me nothing but headaches.... I am a very understanding person
and I know electronics can have defects. However, Asus was absolutely terrible
when I tried to get the products fixed under warranty. It was a painful and slow
process. Not to mention that their customer service reps seemed to trained to
ask 20 questions and expect detailed answers before approving a warranty
repair request.

I thing I'm curious about is whether or not it will have the ability to use external SD cards. Since this is a reference device, and if you look at the Nexus phones they don't support them either.
Since my Tab is now my primary travel companion for long international trips for movies - that's a huge negative in my book.

I see the pros being the display, price, and development support. Outside of that, the rest of the specs seem in line with the Tab 2. Who is going to use NFC and Google Wallet from a tablet? Unless Google Wallet becomes more like Passbook, it's going to be useless as I would think you would need an internet connection, and how awkward would it be paying with a 7" tablet?
The CPU could be a plus for them, but it may also affect battery life having more cores. The Tegra 3 looks like a fairly solid SoC, but as others said, quad-core isn't going to do much for a while, if ever, as most stuff that would tax the system will have stuff offloaded to the GPU as you are likely gaming. The lack of a rear camera isn't huge IMO, as I never use the cameras on my tablet now.
Cons I see are the low price point as well. It's great to have a cheap tablet, but what did they cut back on to get it cheap? I also see no mention of GPS, WiFi, or Bluetooth, so who knows what it has there. I think that the Galaxy Tab 2 having hardware very similar to the Galaxy Nexus is a benefit to us, as we can more easily get AOSP working that way. It will have problems, as the builds do now, but until more details of the Nexus Tablet are released, I still think the GTab2 is a great device.

pinoymutt said:
I thing I'm curious about is whether or not it will have the ability to use external SD cards. Since this is a reference device, and if you look at the Nexus phones they don't support them either.
Since my Tab is now my primary travel companion for long international trips for movies - that's a huge negative in my book.
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I sincerely hope Google won't make the same mistake twice. (first one was
when it left out a microSD slot in my Galaxy Nexus phone) A tablet without
microSD slot is about as useful as a paperweight... or I can just get a KF.

Kiersten_Kress said:
I sincerely hope Google won't make the same mistake twice. (first one was
when it left out a microSD slot in my Galaxy Nexus phone) A tablet without
microSD slot is about as useful as a paperweight... or I can just get a KF.
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Haha no doubt. I had a kf for a few days and hated not having a slot.
The galaxy nexus doesn't have one? Wtf? Really?
I doubt it has GPS. It doesn't even have a rear camera.

scottx . said:
Haha no doubt. I had a kf for a few days and hated not having a slot.
The galaxy nexus doesn't have one? Wtf? Really?
I doubt it has GPS. It doesn't even have a rear camera.
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I've had my Galaxy Nexus since December. The #1 thing that I hated
was the lack of SD slot. (otherwise, it was a cool phone)

I just got my gtab 7 today. Its great! Was thinking if the asus,but i love my tab with ir blaster. Glad with my choice.

Kiersten_Kress said:
I sincerely hope Google won't make the same mistake twice. (first one was
when it left out a microSD slot in my Galaxy Nexus phone) A tablet without
microSD slot is about as useful as a paperweight... or I can just get a KF.
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I don't mind the no sdcard slot on my phone but on a tablet that is just unacceptable.
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This will be the differentiator for me. If the Nexus 7 doesn't have an SD slot then I'll get the Galaxy Tab 2. No SD card is just unacceptable.

I think our GT2 will kick that Asus Tablet's ass.
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HB_Mosh said:
I think our GT2 will kick that Asus Tablet's ass.
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+1. I bet for that asus to get to that price point wont have a micro sd card slot and back camera. To me the gtab is all i need, as browsing is so darn fast. I dont read ebooks, but for regular tasks this is quite fast.

I have never used the camera on my gtab, however I just can't see a tablet that doesn't have a SD slot, but if it doesn't that would be the deal breaker.
I really like my gtab, a lot more now with CM9 on it, so when the Nexus 7 hits it will be a tough decision.

I Really Hope this is a real device that will be released for that price! The issue is I will be kicking myself in the face because I just bought the Tab 2.

Honestly glad I didn't buy this tablet. It was a gift so no regrets :/ I'm happy with it regardless.
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[Q]Should i Buy a Glaxy Tab 2?

Well I recently got a Pantech burst, hence my name. But now im looking for a tablet for personal use and school. Im also interested in the ASUS Eee pad and the nexus 7. Any tips on what to get/reasons to get the tab 2?

I have an gtab 2 10.1 and i have to say that its amazing. Its smooth, has a nice display, good music boxes for a tablet and the battery life is awesome. ( 28 h with intensive use of wifi games and some youtube vids.)
The only thing thats bad about this tablet is the camera, but i think... ITS A TABLET! NOT A CANON EOS!
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PantechBurstOwner said:
Well I recently got a Pantech burst, hence my name. But now im looking for a tablet for personal use and school. Im also interested in the ASUS Eee pad and the nexus 7. Any tips on what to get/reasons to get the tab 2?
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Be cautious when considering the Asus. I bought a new Transformer Prime 64GB, mainly because it seemed to be rated high and was cutting edge. It never worked right. Twice I had to send it to Texas for "repair", the first time when it was only a few days old. Asus has them locked and the unlocking app doesn't work for many, so there's no way to load CWM or a custom ROM. While just under the return window I sent mine back to Amazon for a refund and ordered the 10.1 Tab 2. It may not be cutting edge, but Samsung stuff is solid and there's a lot of support. You might also want to spend some time reading the threads here on XDA about the Asus before you decide. I wish I did. Just my two cents!

I had the 8gb nexus 7 and loved it but not enough storage for me. I have the Gtab 2 7.0 with a 32gb SD card and am very happy with my purchase. If storage isn't an issue for you I would go with the nexus 7.
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azturbomini said:
I had the 8gb nexus 7 and loved it but not enough storage for me. I have the Gtab 2 7.0 with a 32gb SD card and am very happy with my purchase. If storage isn't an issue for you I would go with the nexus 7.
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this.
as much as I like my tab 2, for most folk the 16gb nexus 7 is the better purchase.

azturbomini said:
I had the 8gb nexus 7 and loved it but not enough storage for me. I have the Gtab 2 7.0 with a 32gb SD card and am very happy with my purchase. If storage isn't an issue for you I would go with the nexus 7.
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Agreed. I've gone through a couple phases with my Tab 2 7" thus far. I was initially a bit disappointed in it as the screen and performance weren't quite as crisp as my Galaxy S2 phone. But after more day-to-day use and comparing it with the hacked Nook Color I'd been using previously it's really started to grow on me and I quite like it now, especially given the price. But if I had to buy new right now I'd probably opt for a 16GB Nexus 7. The extra space provided by an external storage card on my Tab is largely useless as far as most apps are concerned.

PantechBurstOwner said:
Well I recently got a Pantech burst, hence my name. But now im looking for a tablet for personal use and school. Im also interested in the ASUS Eee pad and the nexus 7. Any tips on what to get/reasons to get the tab 2?
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I got the Tab2 because it shipped with ICS, has a back camera and expandable storage. No regrets. I am not in the US so I wouldn't have been able to access all the Google services. Tab2 was a bit less ($10) than the Nexus for me.

You should search. You would see the other five threads asking the same question.
No, don't buy one. Get an ipad.

scottx . said:
You should search. You would see the other five threads asking the same question.
No, don't buy one. Get an ipad.
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Ha good one. Like I would spend my money on an apple product. Also the nexus tablet is like Two weeks? Two days old. I doubt someone compared it to this but thanks for the negativity downer Dan!

I am very happy with my Tab 2, but in the end I think the i-pad is the better choice: many more tablet apps available.
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Like scottx said buy an IPad so you can support sue happy Apple. They need more money so they can block or delay us in getting new non-apple products.
Seriously, I would do a lot of research and find local stores that have various ones on display and take some time to play with them. This is a big purchase for some of us. I kind of rushed into it and am not sure I made the best decision even though I am happy with my Tab 2. I had a Toshiba Excite 10 and it was great also with the exception that there is still not a lot of developers making apps that are compatible or support the Tegra 3 processor. And the fact that there was a glitch in the camera (which is better than the Tab 2) that caused some issues.
Good luck in you search and decision.

Whatever you do.. get something over 8GB ,,,,,,
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Sure
I'd owned iPad 2 about a year but traded it for Galaxy Tab 2 (5100) so I have experience for both devices.
iPad is absolutely unusable without JailBreak. And you can not guarantee some smart guy will make a jailbreak for new iOs version.
But it is smooth and handy and sweet and yummy. And all girls are yours (if you own Ferrari as well).
SGT2 is scarcely usable with stock Samsung rom. It's sluggish and it lives its own life and doesn't care what exactly you want to get by poking your finger into the screen. Sometimes it may make an exception and mercifully respond to your wishes. May be such an impression comes after iPad since raw android users don't experience anything like that.
Yesterday with help of comrade Endoroid I managed to flash CyanogenMod 9 to my SGT2. And you know what - it is smooth almost like iPad now but you haven't to perform all those Voodoo dance to just put a file on it. So now I have all the mighty might of android swiss knife and smoothness of near of such of Ipad.
As a summary - I would recommend you this device if you can handle flashing a custom rom and don't bother about warranty.
Make your choice (c) John Kramer.

Got my GTab 2 since yesterday. It ran only 1 minute stock (to copy CM9 and gapps on flash) . Now I'm running CM 9 RC2 - CM10 4.1 is in progress by codeworkx. It's so smooth :fingers-crossed: ! Love it! Only thing is, that dock features like audio/hdmi over dock connector aren't supported yet.

I've read in many threads that the build quality of the Nexus 7 is not very good. Asus tried to build it so that it would be easy to tear down and replace parts, and in order to do that, they did not use any glue to hold in the screen. This may been nice for the repair department, but it sucks for the average user constantly getting a loose screen (eventually causing damage to the screen).

Thanks guys, im pretty sure im going to get the tab, and whats this about the nexus 7's screen coming loose. Any links to that??

PantechBurstOwner said:
Thanks guys, im pretty sure im going to get the tab, and whats this about the nexus 7's screen coming loose. Any links to that??
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1781237
The problem is that there is no glue.
Check out this video on the teardown.
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus-7-Teardown/9623/1
Hmm.. and one more thing. It looks like the screen has yet another problem with "ghosting" images.
http://www.androidauthority.com/nexus-7-ghosting-issues-affect-some-displays-99349/
Oh and also it seems that Tegra 3 chips have a severe "flickering" problem with the display.
Gee.. that is like 3 separate problems directly related to the screen
There is a hardware problem that affects the flickering in the display. When the brightness level is turned down, the IPS panel is affected when the broadcom WiFi chip receives data. So, if you want to use the internet and turn down the brightness, you will get (from what other people say) severe flickering on the screen. Sounds annoying.

I got myself the galaxy tab 2 and overall well i will say for stock rom it does ok if you are doing light work (surfing,and music) although you do see the screen or tapping of screen lag when you are running more things. However overall rather stable for android os 4.0.3. i think there is an update to 4.0.4 but i guess i will stick with 4.0.3 a while longer before moving on to custom roms.

PantechBurstOwner said:
Well I recently got a Pantech burst, hence my name. But now im looking for a tablet for personal use and school. Im also interested in the ASUS Eee pad and the nexus 7. Any tips on what to get/reasons to get the tab 2?
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NO! Don't buy Galaxy Tab 2, I suggest you to buy an Asus Transformer Pad than Gtab 2 because some reasons:
1. It's cheaper
2. It's using NVIDIA Tegra 2 GPU (Transformer) which run graphics very smoothly than Gtab 2 which only powered by PowerVR
3. Asus Transformer's dock is very usable, your tab can transformed into a netbook
4. The dock could extend the battery of the tab up to 6-10 hours as I know
5. The widget and live wallpaper is pretty cool and awesome B)
6. Asus built in apps is very usable too
And the last...
7. It's have good specs for gaming
But I just suggest you and you've still consider which is the best for you
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You should install this rom,if you like stock roms. Very nice indeed. Remove the bloatware,install some sort of app that stop apps from starting on their own, and you will see a nice improvement.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1765313

Anyone Upgrading? To A510,A700,Nexus 7

anyone going to switch to the newer acer devices? or the nexus 7? because tegra 3 is out and it seems very good, also might get the nexus although it would be missing external sd slot but that can be fixed if you root it, and the newer acer's seem to get hot but are getting fixed with software updates, what do you guys think? is it worth to upgrade to tegra 3? or wait for tegra 4 in 2013?

azoller1 said:
anyone going to switch to the newer acer devices? or the nexus 7? because tegra 3 is out and it seems very good, also might get the nexus although it would be missing external sd slot but that can be fixed if you root it, and the newer acer's seem to get hot but are getting fixed with software updates, what do you guys think? is it worth to upgrade to tegra 3? or wait for tegra 4 in 2013?
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Already bought a 701. Still keeping the 501 though.
The hot processor is due to it being a high performance tablet. There's no way yet around this, but hopefully some newer updates will lower the temp down a little.
It all depends on 2 things.
a. Do you want it?
b. Do you have the cash?
If you answer yes to both, or yes to one, but unsure of the other, then go out and get it.
MD

Moscow Desire said:
Already bought a 701. Still keeping the 501 though.
The hot processor is due to it being a high performance tablet. There's no way yet around this, but hopefully some newer updates will lower the temp down a little.
It all depends on 2 things.
a. Do you want it?
b. Do you have the cash?
If you answer yes to both, or yes to one, but unsure of the other, then go out and get it.
MD
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How is the 701 i was gonna pick one up but heard the interface was kinda clunky or laggy?

gears177 said:
How is the 701 i was gonna pick one up but heard the interface was kinda clunky or laggy?
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Well, the interface is ok. ICS. I really didn't get a good chance to play around, as it.... ahem.... bricked. (no comment, but you know me, testing a tweaked kernel. Seems the recovery author screwed the pooch on the recovery. Not only wasn;t tested because he doesn't own a 70x, but was based on the 510 recovery, which the author of course later found it, it bricks the tab when you restore Lesson learned. Well, should get it back hopefully in a week. About time I bricked a tab
I wrote an initial review in my rom thread.
Basically, the only complaint I had, was 2. Hot processor (supposedly an update has either been released, or promised by acer), and the screen sensitivity is in my opinion, not as sensitive as the 50x. Sometimes had to press a little harder. But I think both can be fixed with an update. It's a first release after all.
Overall, a good upgrade I think. But if you can get the 51x at a better price, and can sacrifice the HD display, you might be better off. But that display...... Daaaaaaamnnnnn.
EDIT. On a sidenote, the TF Prime also has Tegra3, and it also runs warmer than normal under load. And they don't have an HD Display. But if you OC the TF Prime, to 1.6 and give it a load, it runs hot. Mine, out of the box, was 1.4. Strange. But it never rebooted after 30-40 min of Shadowgun. But was pretty hot. 90c maybe. I would probably advise 30-40 min of solid HD game playing, then let it cool. It cools down really quick when you let it rest for a couple minutes.
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You know, being a techie with means, in a way I am very much tempted by Tegra 3s and all the new hardware, but I stop and ask myself, why? I don't play games on my 500, and I run reflexxx, so it does everything I want it too, and smoothly.
I think for me, personally, it's less of a question of whether I have the money or the desire, and more of do I have an actual need? I mean, Chrome, Perfect Viewer, and Moon+ don't exactly need much horse power. Perhaps if I sat down with a Tegra 3 workhorse I'd think differently, but short of putting on a T3 game and saying "oooh" for five minutes, I can't see any real benefit beyond a slightly better battery life.

I have to
The on off switch on my A500 totally broke off the board so I am out of luck there. My wife's still works for her though. I'll probably go for the Nexus but I'm not happy with no SD card slot

scum1 said:
The on off switch on my A500 totally broke off the board so I am out of luck there. My wife's still works for her though. I'll probably go for the Nexus but I'm not happy with no SD card slot
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Same thing happened to me but i soilder mine back on! WOOT WOOT

yeah the nexus doesnt have a slot but i found out that it supports otg so i can buy a 64gb flash drive for like $35 and i can have lots of movies and files right there with my nexus

Nexus 7 on its way
I have pre ordered nexus 7. Its been getting great reviews with of course the storage negative. But for me its ok 16 gb . im not big on movies . Will pass keep my a500 for using on the couch . Went to NEXUS 7 inch because of size will fit in my purse.. I still love my a500 thou.

erica_renee said:
I have pre ordered nexus 7. Its been getting great reviews with of course the storage negative. But for me its ok 16 gb . im not big on movies . Will pass keep my a500 for using on the couch . Went to NEXUS 7 inch because of size will fit in my purse.. I still love my a500 thou.
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Would you recommend the nexus 7? And where did you order yours? I heard they are out of stock in a lot of places.
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I think that I'll hold out until the holidays before I even think about a new tablet. By then it should be well known which ones have good dev support, lots of ROMs, etc.
erica_renee said:
I have pre ordered nexus 7. Its been getting great reviews with of course the storage negative. But for me its ok 16 gb . im not big on movies . Will pass keep my a500 for using on the couch . Went to NEXUS 7 inch because of size will fit in my purse.. I still love my a500 thou.
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Welcome back Erica. Good to see you. It's been a while.

I also saw that there might a kindle fire 2 in a ten inch version on Aug. 6th and the galaxy note 10.1 inch so I might wait till then and see If they start making nexus 7 in 32gb but I doubt it
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I bought my a500 last December when Target had them on a fire sale. I'll probably do something similar this coming holiday season. Truth be told, I'm incredibly satisfied with my Iconia, but I'm always interested in the next best thing, and Tegra 3 has the right mix of performance and price for my income.
I won't get a Nexus 7, however. No SDcard, no HDMI, and no USB host are all deal breakers for me. The Iconia has spoiled me in this regard.

I'm thinking about getting myself a Nexus 7 to go alongside my a500. You can never have too much tech.

I have had a a500 since about July 2011. I really like it and with ICS it got even better. I replaced my rooted Nook Color with it but for reading I find the a500 to be too heavy so I picked up a Nexus 7 last week. LOVE it! Super light and great for reading on and I haven't touched my a500 since. I do really like JB and the smoothness of Tegra 3 compared to the a500. I think I will still prefer the 10 in tablet for web browsing but for $199 the N7 just can't be beat. Can't believe I was recommending the Kindle fire to friends just a month ago.

Used a nexus 7 for a few days, passed it along to my parents. No hdmi, no card slot, that's a dealbreaker. I'm waiting to see an A700 in person, but the Nexus 7 will be a tough act to follow. I'm hoping Google will follow up with a Nexus 10 that fills in the gaps of the Nexus 7.

hopped on teh nexus 7, I have been wanting a smaller tablet, plus my step dad now has the a500 which helps while he is waiting for kemo, for some reason it takes like hours just to get into treament

No more tegra for me. Im waiting for an cheapass tab with an high quality screen and a nice resolution cause thats really the only thing I need and in my eyes mather these days. Since all cpus are strong enough for most of the tasks. For example; my Desire Z with an 800 mhz cpu can play all the latest games like gta, maxpayne, dead trigger just fine. It even runs xbmc with navi-x totally smooth. I can even say it handles the most important tasks like browsing and playing video much beter than my dual core crappy tablet, especiely video decoding. And since xda officially gave Nvidia the middlefinger I do the same.
EDIT: The desire even runs dead trigger with tegra 3 graphics tottaly smooth...

After the A501 I will never buy another Acer product and I recommend anybody that asks my opinion on the matter to stay away also..

I just picked up a Nexus 7 last week. Got tired of being behind for AOSP ROMs. Didn't realize about the lack of USB hosting or I might not have bought it. Having a slight screen issue so it might go back to Staples.
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[Q] Nexus 7 advantages compare to another 7 inch tablet

Hey man, I want to buy Nexus 7 because of its price ( cheaper than the other, LOL XD)
But I still cannot decide which one to buy ( N7 or Samsung galaxy tab 2 7 inch )
This what makes me worries :
- N7 can be cracked easily
- N7 don't have external memory ( and I already searched over and ONLY found the 32 GB version, which is too much for me and makes it expensive )
- I don't know if N7 can play lots of music / video formats
- I don't know if Google wants to make another 7 inch tablet with a low price ( N7 price is VERY lower than the other FAMOUS tablet out there).
So can you help me to :
- Give me what do you think of N7 advantages compare to Samsung 7 inch tablet ( because this tablet is his rival for me, LOL )
- Are my statements up there are correct or wrong ?
- Are you having issues with your N7 ? ( Please give what you do to solve it )
- CONVINCE me more about N7, LOL
- Anybody has news if google wants to make another 7 inch low price tablet ?
- Can you guys recommend me another 7 inch tablet ( no IPAD MINI or Kindle Fire )
Thx a lot guys!:fingers-crossed:

Nexus nuff said. You always get updates and no bloat.
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RivaultUser said:
Hey man, I want to buy Nexus 7 because of its price ( cheaper than the other, LOL XD)
But I still cannot decide which one to buy ( N7 or Samsung galaxy tab 2 7 inch )
This what makes me worries :
- N7 can be cracked easily
- N7 don't have external memory ( and I already searched over and ONLY found the 32 GB version, which is too much for me and makes it expensive )
- I don't know if N7 can play lots of music / video formats
- I don't know if Google wants to make another 7 inch tablet with a low price ( N7 price is VERY lower than the other FAMOUS tablet out there).
So can you help me to :
- Give me what do you think of N7 advantages compare to Samsung 7 inch tablet ( because this tablet is his rival for me, LOL )
- Are my statements up there are correct or wrong ?
- Are you having issues with your N7 ? ( Please give what you do to solve it )
- CONVINCE me more about N7, LOL
- Anybody has news if google wants to make another 7 inch low price tablet ?
- Can you guys recommend me another 7 inch tablet ( no IPAD MINI or Kindle Fire )
Thx a lot guys!:fingers-crossed:
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The N7 is amazing. Its a Nexus device so it is first in line for updates and will always have the latest software available first. I personally will never buy anything that's not labeled Nexus ever again, but then again I'm very into rooting and custom ROMs.
I see no evidence of any weak screen or crack threat. I have no lifting and my device seems very solid. Don't drop it.
I have 16 gig version and it has plenty of memory. I have 9 gigs used on my gnex and there's tons of crap on my SD card so I'm not worried about space.
Hardware wise it is superior to most all other tablets and if you root, install a custom kernel, you can over clock and improve speed and fluidity.
My mom has a kindle fire and the Nexus embarrasses it.
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i just picked up one last Friday at staples and man it is the best thing i ve bought for myself in a long time
now like the other post said i have no problem with lifting screen and it is very solid and stable. i have rooted it and tried a couple of roms
and its great if you download MX Player you can play just about any file format out the box. as for as dropping it ....DONT but that's common sense
get a case to protect it i just ordered the OEM case from amazon word of advise on the concern about the limited gb learn how to convert to MP4.H264 this is your best bet at getting the most out of your space and keep great video quality. music just use small bit-rate 128 should be fine and you should be great . i have 5 movies 1 season of true blood,3 videos and 5 albums and i still have 9 GB left so this is my advise good luck.

I got mine last week (32gb w/3G) rooted it and am having a blast with it. Loaded a couple of custom ROMs and lost 3G so I went back to stock rooted with no issues. I dumped the original Xoom for it and am not complaining. I picked up a Siedio case and have a 32gb Maxell AirStash on order for storage. I too could not decide between the GTab and the Nexus because I wanted LTE, but after getting the N7, even with having only 3G I am not disappointed.

rtc1036 said:
I got mine last week (32gb w/3G) rooted it and am having a blast with it. Loaded a couple of custom ROMs and lost 3G so I went back to stock rooted with no issues. I dumped the original Xoom for it and am not complaining. I picked up a Siedio case and have a 32gb Maxell AirStash on order for storage. I too could not decide between the GTab and the Nexus because I wanted LTE, but after getting the N7, even with having only 3G I am not disappointed.
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I'm jealous, I wish there was a Verizon model.
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I bought my nexus 7 (32gb as I always choose 32gb when possible) a few weeks back and have been so happy with it I haven't even rooted it. Build quality is excellent, none of the "common" problems here, plays any movie type I've tried using MX player, and plays any music file I've tried just fine with Google music. As for cracks, the screen is a 7 inch slab of glass, you want to do your best not to drop it. With that said I feel like my blurex case would do a decent job of protecting the screen from any potential mishaps, and the magnetic sensor that turns screen on and off as you open and close is freakin sweet!
And it's a nexus, once you try a nexus and experience the nexus difference you'll not want anything else.
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The Samsung Tabs are great. I have a first gen Samsung Galaxy 7" from Sprint that I run CM10 on (JB 4.1.2) and while it's thicker and has a lower resolution, it plays fine. That said, getting official support from Samsung is a joke. My Tab never made it past Gingerbread and if it weren't for the great devs (gods) the tab would be almost useless now.
Samsung likes to use its Exynos processor (which is awesome) but doesn't support 4G, so there tends to be lots of variants in hardware... which can really make or break a buy if you don't buy the right model that has the most support.
As far as hardware comparisons, why bother? They both have the same basic hardware and aside from one being a smudge faster then the other, feature differences are trivial EXCEPT for any of the NOTE line because of their PEN. If you have a specific use for a pen such as notes or drawing... there really is no other choice.
A 32gb N7 is more then sufficient in storage needs. After ditching a memory card on my Galaxy Nexus 32gb... I've grown kind of fond of larger single storage. You don't have to worry about where to store your stuff so that CMW will find it and let you flash, you also don't have to worry about SOME apps installing to internal while some install to external. You just have 1 large pool.
Lack of SD makes it a little complicated to transfer files on and off your tab, until you figure out there are easier and better ways such as WiFi File Explorer (recommended) or Cloud storage. WiFi File Explorer creates a Web-Enabled Server on your device which you can access from any Browser. Makes it easy to wirelessly transfer large files from device to device, such as phone to tablet.
The N7 feels great in the hand. The really only issue is screen lift on one side but seriously it is like 1mm difference that everyone is freaking out over. No one ever even notices it until someone mentions it and they go looking for it. Asus has corrected the problem and newer devices such as a 32gb or 3G are already fixed and should be a non-issue now.
I recommend the N7 to everyone and lots of family now own one. On the plus side, we have the latest Android with multiuser support and additional cool features. Only a few Samsung tabs will see this. PLUS in a year from now, we'll get bumped to 5.0 when the Samsung tabs are forgotten about. This makes for great resale value and life longevity.

The nexus 7 is a amazing tablet to use. Since it carry's the nexus name you can be sure there will be updates.
No matter if you choose to run it stock but rooted or choose to run custom ROM on it. Basic web surfing and watching some YouTube videos nets me little over 24 hours on a full charge.
If your thinking about buying a 7" tablet. Go ahead and buy the 32gb nexus 7 you will be glad you did. Just be careful don't drop it.
I owned my nexus 7 for two weeks now and love it. The nexus 7 is the 2nd android tablet I ever owned. The first being the older kindle fire but I sold it for the nexus.
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Better screen quality and quad core. Get a N7
If you need more storage than buy a otg cable and plug in a thumb drive
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I have a Galaxy Tab 7.7 with Verizon and just got a Nexus 7 with 3G because I'm fed up with Verizon and Samsung dragging their butts releasing updates. While the screen's a little smaller and HSPA+ is a slower than LTE, I'm not at all feeling like I downgraded.
Anyone in the market for a GT 7.7?
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Well, thanks a lot guys! Now I'm going to buy one N7!!!!!!!

N7 all the way! Just got one 2 days ago and wondered why didn't I get it earlier! Build quality is top notch but as with any tablet, be careful not to drop it! 4.2.1 is also an absolute joy to use

I would get the international version of the Samsung and use it as a phone. N7 may get that functionality with some awesome Dev work.....emphasis on the may.

RivaultUser said:
Hey man, I want to buy Nexus 7 because of its price ( cheaper than the other, LOL XD)
But I still cannot decide which one to buy ( N7 or Samsung galaxy tab 2 7 inch )
This what makes me worries :
- N7 can be cracked easily
- N7 don't have external memory ( and I already searched over and ONLY found the 32 GB version, which is too much for me and makes it expensive )
- I don't know if N7 can play lots of music / video formats
- I don't know if Google wants to make another 7 inch tablet with a low price ( N7 price is VERY lower than the other FAMOUS tablet out there).
So can you help me to :
- Give me what do you think of N7 advantages compare to Samsung 7 inch tablet ( because this tablet is his rival for me, LOL )
- Are my statements up there are correct or wrong ?
- Are you having issues with your N7 ? ( Please give what you do to solve it )
- CONVINCE me more about N7, LOL
- Anybody has news if google wants to make another 7 inch low price tablet ?
- Can you guys recommend me another 7 inch tablet ( no IPAD MINI or Kindle Fire )
Thx a lot guys!:fingers-crossed:
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- N7 can be cracked easily 【others are not as concrete as a brick either 】
- N7 don't have external memory ( and I already searched over and ONLY found the 32 GB version, which is too much for me and makes it expensive )【OTG will sovle this problem】
- I don't know if N7 can play lots of music / video formats【yes It really does】
- I don't know if Google wants to make another 7 inch tablet with a low price ( N7 price is VERY lower than the other FAMOUS tablet out there)【I donot judge a product just for its price and its worth, so the reason I buy it is I like it. xD. 】

VolantBear said:
- N7 can be cracked easily 【others are not as concrete as a brick either 】
- N7 don't have external memory ( and I already searched over and ONLY found the 32 GB version, which is too much for me and makes it expensive )【OTG will sovle this problem】
- I don't know if N7 can play lots of music / video formats【yes It really does】
- I don't know if Google wants to make another 7 inch tablet with a low price ( N7 price is VERY lower than the other FAMOUS tablet out there)【I donot judge a product just for its price and its worth, so the reason I buy it is I like it. xD. 】
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I disagree, I don't think the Nexus can crack easily. Me being stupid, I had put it in my pocket every day, which stressed the screen a little bit each day. It took 2 months to actually break, which to me seems like a long time. That's just my opinion though. As the the price, I think it should be a deciding factor, because why should you get an iPad Mini for example, when you could get N7 for $120 cheaper. I know there are some perks, but still.