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Ics timeframe ?

I checked out one of these today and I think it will be perfect for me until the Asus memo 370 comes along... but I have a galaxy nexus and after using ics I really don't want to go back to hc.
Has anyone read or have samsung announced if/when it will be receiving ics?
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How long is a piece of string? Q2 Samsung reckon.
I'm running ICS on my SGS2 and have honeycomb on the 7.7 and I guess its preference really I can put up with HC until a dev gets around to ICS for us.

do you notice much of a difference between the 2? Still tossing up whether to pull the trigger now or wait (I have the original galaxy tab atm)...
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MontAlbert said:
I checked out one of these today and I think it will be perfect for me until the Asus memo 370 comes along... but I have a galaxy nexus and after using ics I really don't want to go back to hc.
Has anyone read or have samsung announced if/when it will be receiving ics?
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Why would you want a Memo as a replacement for a Tab 7.7? That's a serious downgrade in my book.

Croak said:
Why would you want a Memo as a replacement for a Tab 7.7? That's a serious downgrade in my book.
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downgrade in term of screen maybe, but in term of processing power and gpu, I think tegra 3 still in the leading hand
I'd wait for memo 370t also, but for 250 , I dont think it can do voice call, which would be a big no for me
tab 7.7 launching schedule is Feb 11th so gonna wait till more active development in tab 7.7 while seeing on MWC about ASUS

nostalgie said:
How long is a piece of string? Q2 Samsung reckon.
I'm running ICS on my SGS2 and have honeycomb on the 7.7 and I guess its preference really I can put up with HC until a dev gets around to ICS for us.
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+1
After using ICS on my Galaxy Nexus I dont even want to use my 7.7.. We need some ICS love for the 7.7.. A.S.A.P.
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ICS update.
Love Samsung mobiles but so far their history of devices is abysmal.
Asus Transformer Prime (Tegra3), Previous Transformer (Tegra 2), Motorola Zoom (Tegra2) is already receiving ICS updates but Samsung Tab 10.1 and Tab 8.9 also based on Tegra 2 still no word.
On Exynos some leaks are still rolling out for SGS2. So Note still needs to follow and only then will they look at other tabs. Ridiculous.
On top of that I flashed ICS leak on my SGS and TW dominates ICS so much that it might as well be gingerbread. Basically all thats left of ICS UI is the settings.
SAD SAD SAD.
Best thing we can hope for is a stable Cyanogen 9 rom for tab 7.7

CM9 will be boss on this tab, I'm running the KANG on my Gtab 10.1

Yeah.. I am moving forward not even thinking about the "ICS" update from Samsung. CM9 or a vanilla build of ICS, Id like to get as close to stock Android as possible on this bad boy. It just seems that TouchWiz is a "bottle neck" as the system seems laggy when using the UI. My fingers are crossed. Hell I may even have some funds for donation.
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maconsultant said:
Yeah.. I am moving forward not even thinking about the "ICS" update from Samsung. CM9 or a vanilla build of ICS, Id like to get as close to stock Android as possible on this bad boy. It just seems that TouchWiz is a "bottle neck" as the system seems laggy when using the UI. My fingers are crossed. Hell I may even have some funds for donation.
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Lag is virtually non-existent on this device honestly. Just replace TouchWiz launcher with ADW EX, and you'll be flying.
Basically, yeah, it's not ICS yet, but honestly, it's not like what we have now is a bad experience by any stretch. It's plenty good, hell it's fantastic, for now, until Samsung or the dev community gets a working ICS build for us.

Replace TouchWiz
Totally agree, although I would also suggest Go Launcher EX. I tried both this weekend and I find Go Launcher EX even more smooth than ADW EX, but both excellent.

Someone posted on here about them playing with the leaked alpha/beta ICS update for the SGSII and they said all that was left of rhe ICS gui was the settings window and that TouchWiz dominated the ROM. That is very disappointing to me, but i mean what did i expect afterall. Ive never bought any other devices but Google Flag Ship devices that run stock android so i guess thats my point of reference.. For me android is about choice.. letting the user CHOOSE what they want, Samsung should build in a toggle to turn off TouchWiz completely if we the user chooses to. I just feel it adds another layer that just steals CPU cycles and doesnt really add any benefit.
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Jade Eyed Wolf said:
Lag is virtually non-existent on this device honestly. Just replace TouchWiz launcher with ADW EX, and you'll be flying.
Basically, yeah, it's not ICS yet, but honestly, it's not like what we have now is a bad experience by any stretch. It's plenty good, hell it's fantastic, for now, until Samsung or the dev community gets a working ICS build for us.
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Would love to use ADW EX but I cant get rid of black bar on top. The standard transparent bar thats part of stock TW turns into a grey bar and no setting I change can get it transparent again. If you could help me out here I might just run ADW...
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Someone posted on here about them playing with the leaked alpha/beta ICS update for the SGSII and they said all that was left of rhe ICS gui was the settings window and that TouchWiz dominated the ROM. That is very disappointing to me, but i mean what did i expect afterall. Ive never bought any other devices but Google Flag Ship devices that run stock android so i guess thats my point of reference.. For me android is about choice.. letting the user CHOOSE what they want, Samsung should build in a toggle to turn off TouchWiz completely if we the user chooses to. I just feel it adds another layer that just steals CPU cycles and doesnt really add any benefit.
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That was me that posted it and yes I agree.
Supercurio also has a support forum asking for a "AOSP Launcher for Samsung ICS" Go and add support. Hopefully he can somehow convince them to include stock UI.

Who knows... maybe by the time we'll have ICS we'll be able install some win8 on this device

What's the big deal with Win8..?
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maconsultant said:
What's the big deal with Win8..?
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It supposedly will have ARM support so there might be a possibility of setting up Android tablets to boot to it, or at least maybe a lite version of it. Dunno if that's a good thing, but having more options generally is preferable.
(And, sorry, but I didn't mean to hit thanks.)

burhanistan said:
having more options generally is preferable.
(And, sorry, but I didn't mean to hit thanks.)
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Lol, I agree about more options, but Windows..? I guess I'll have to wait and see...
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well.. as a windows user most of my apps (including the ones i develop) are windows platform based... so having a tablet that can run these can be nice... most likely I will switch to a windows supporting tablet when win8 be officially released...
Have a nice day,
SK.

Understood.. But is it good.?
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maconsultant said:
Understood.. But is it good.?
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There's a dev preview of Windows 8 out now. It won't work on ARM devices (nor will it install as a VM on Fusion for Mac), but it gives a good sense of the feature set and UX. It's basically Windows 7 with an embedded tablet mode.

[Q] While we're waiting for ICS...

Considering, from a hardware standpoint, how similar the Note and the 7.7 are, has anyone thought to maybe make a Honeycomb 3.2 ROM for the Note based off of a 7.7 build?
Can this be done? What are the implications? What are the technical hurdles? Is it worth it?
Thoughts and comments appreciated, and perhaps developer intrigue would be a bonus!

Jade Eyed Wolf said:
Considering, from a hardware standpoint, how similar the Note and the 7.7 are, has anyone thought to maybe make a Honeycomb 3.2 ROM for the Note based off of a 7.7 build?
Can this be done? What are the implications? What are the technical hurdles? Is it worth it?
Thoughts and comments appreciated, and perhaps developer intrigue would be a bonus!
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Honeycomb was tablet-only, so at the very least, you'd likely lose all phone functionality.

dwboston said:
Honeycomb was tablet-only, so at the very least, you'd likely lose all phone functionality.
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Why do you think so? As far as I know Galaxy tab 7.7 is capable of making phone calls too...

lxxxxxr said:
Why do you think so? As far as I know Galaxy tab 7.7 is capable of making phone calls too...
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Yes it is!
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Exactly my point! Since the 7.7, specifically the P6800, (which I own btw and it is fantastic) is a fully functioning phone in every respect, why couldn't we make a Note compatible port of its ROM?
I mean, I'm sure that once the Note does officially receive ICS, it'll be 5 minutes before someone here changes the DPI setting so that we'll effectively have full blown tablet ICS running on the Note, which is going to be awesome of course! But who knows how long that will take before we actually get ICS?
Hence my whole reasoning behind creating this post in the first place.
With Honeycomb running on the 7.7, you really do have the best of both worlds; you have a true tablet (I say this because, having used both devices, I really feel that the Note is more of a huge phone than a small tablet), and it just so happens that that tablet can double as your phone! Brilliant!
Thus, I think it would be awesome to bring Honeycomb (assuming it's even possible) to the Note. You would be able to take advantage of native hardware acceleration for the UI, as well as getting the benefit of a full tablet OS on your device, and all without sacrificing your ability to make and receive normal phone calls and SMS/MMS.

The ics Cyano ROM came about only after a leak. I doubt we will see a leak of HC as all efforts of Samsung are on the ics. And no developer would build from scratch a ROM with the ics a few weeks.
Cool idea but it will not happen.
OTOH I would love to see ics parts transferred to out GB . Gmail and browser, but they are depending on kernel, so that will not happen either.
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geonahta said:
The ics Cyano ROM came about only after a leak. I doubt we will see a leak of HC as all efforts of Samsung are on the ics. And no developer would build from scratch a ROM with the ics a few weeks.
Cool idea but it will not happen.
OTOH I would love to see ics parts transferred to out GB . Gmail and browser, but they are depending on kernel, so that will not happen either.
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True, but the CM9 ROM for the Note is an AOSP build, which is why so many things aren't working, due to hardware driver issues and such.
With a potential HC 3.2 port from the 7.7, considering the hardware similarities, that could be maybe easier and quicker to do? I'm not a dev, so I don't know... That's kinda why I was hoping for some thoughts and opinions from a ROM cooker or dev.
Here's to hoping!

Not worth it. Honeycomb is dead, and all tablets will get ICS. It's a waste of time, and we should concentrate on ICS.

LordManhattan said:
Not worth it. Honeycomb is dead, and all tablets will get ICS. It's a waste of time, and we should concentrate on ICS.
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I guess... At the very least, I wonder if it's possible to cannibalize the HC drivers from the 7.7 to work with the CM9 Alpha for the Note?

I have no idea, so someone else has to answer you on that one

Biggest problem I foresee is the same reason why there was no CM8. No HC source. But I don't know much just taking a guess.
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rquinn19 said:
Biggest problem I foresee is the same reason why there was no CM8. No HC source. But I don't know much just taking a guess.
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they released HC source when they released ICS source.

JamieD81 said:
they released HC source when they released ICS source.
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My bad. I missed that
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I don't think this is a good idea, HC was ridiculously difficult to port on Soc's other than TEGRA 2. I doubt it can be done before the official ics is released. What we should be putting more effort is on the CM9 port.
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When Will ICS Come?

Anyone have any idea?
Anyone working in Samsung?
Let's discuss
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we have to wait...

evil_penguin said:
we have to wait...
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Of course,
But the question is how long...
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edwinpang said:
Anyone have any idea?
Anyone working in Samsung?
Let's discuss
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There is already an open thread discussing your inquiries , if you want to get more details and updates . http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1513457

edwinpang said:
Of course,
But the question is how long...
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s2 already got ics,
now note will receive ics..
later tab 7.7,8.9 and 10.1 will receive ics
well exact time that samung knows
i hope it comes soon....

I'm expecting ICS on my 7.7 LTE by mid May and hopefully earlier, but there's no way of knowing short of an explicit announcement from Samsung/Verizon. The last word from Verizon was "... sometime this year ..."
Brian

April 34th

Raptor1956 said:
I'm expecting ICS on my 7.7 LTE by mid May and hopefully earlier, but there's no way of knowing short of an explicit announcement from Samsung/Verizon. The last word from Verizon was "... sometime this year ..."
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That's like saying your mum is a woman haha
Sometime this year -_-
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edwinpang said:
That's like saying your mum is a woman haha
Sometime this year -_-
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maybe she isn't! .... dun dun dunnnnnn

Yo mamma's so fat she ate all our Ice Cream Sandwiches and now we're just sitting around with no update.

burhanistan said:
Yo mamma's so fat she ate all our Ice Cream Sandwiches and now we're just sitting around with no update.
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Lol funny
Using Galaxy Tab 7.7 P6800

evil_penguin said:
s2 already got ics,
now note will receive ics..
later tab 7.7,8.9 and 10.1 will receive ics
well exact time that samung knows
i hope it comes soon....
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The S2 came out a while ago and it sold a lot of units so it was always in first place to receive ICS. The Note should be next.
Supposedly the galaxy tab 2 (7 and 10) should be out in the UK by the end of march but I am not sure if they are on sale yet. They are already running 4.0 so I am not sure how hard it is to port that over to the old tabs.

April end off corse
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Sounds possible
But any evidence?
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Just curious...why the hurry for ICS? What would it realistically offer beyond the ability to run Chrome (whose feature set is already nearly entirely included in the stock browser)?
I know a lot of people seem to be expecting some sort of outrageous performance increase, but having seen the Gingerbread-to-ICS transition on the Nook Color, I have personally seen no evidence to suggest that ICS will be materially faster than Honeycomb (with the possible exception of slightly less lag in the stock launcher).
Has anyone had a different experience? We can't really compare against the S2 because it never ran HC.

rhester72 said:
Just curious...why the hurry for ICS? What would it realistically offer beyond the ability to run Chrome (whose feature set is already nearly entirely included in the stock browser)?
I know a lot of people seem to be expecting some sort of outrageous performance increase, but having seen the Gingerbread-to-ICS transition on the Nook Color, I have personally seen no evidence to suggest that ICS will be materially faster than Honeycomb (with the possible exception of slightly less lag in the stock launcher).
Has anyone had a different experience? We can't really compare against the S2 because it never ran HC.
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Upgrading from GB to ICS on my S2 made the android experience much better. On GB, touchwiz kept crashing at times and it was annoying and while overall once on 2.3.5 it was more or less stable. But after a slight hiccup with the upgrade (battery drain, some touchwiz crashing), I reset the entire device and from then on ICS has been running quite nicely. The browser is faster, touchwiz is faster and battery life is a lot better than before.
videos of the 7.7 on HC suggest a slightly sluggish UI and sometimes the browser is sluggish according to some sites. I've used a 10.1 and a sony tablet s, and the sony's UI is much smoother.
In videos of the new galaxy tab 2 (both 7 and 10.1) running ICS, things seem a lot smoother, especially the UI. I am hoping that the ICS upgrade on the 7.7 will make it smoother with no jerkiness.

rhester72 said:
Just curious...why the hurry for ICS? What would it realistically offer beyond the ability to run Chrome (whose feature set is already nearly entirely included in the stock browser)?
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Because HC on the 7.7 sucks. I haven't been so disappointed since going from 2.1 to 2.2 on the old Milestone. ICS is our only hope...unless you don't mind non stock ROM.
I am not looking for any fancy feature. Just the basic with speed.

I don't know what has come to make anyone believe ICS will be faster than HC on the same hardware.
Rodney

rhester72 said:
I don't know what has come to make anyone believe ICS will be faster than HC on the same hardware.
Rodney
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I think it comes from the fact that pretty much every post and hands-on experience with ICS on the same hardware has had very noticeable improvements.
Xoom ICS upgrade. I see a lot of posts about the dramatic improvement in responsiveness. A friend of mine says it's night and day.
Same with the Galaxy S II.
I've seen a noticeable improvement on the Asus Transformer as well.
All this points to improvements on the Tab 7.7 with an ICS upgrade.

rhester72 said:
I don't know what has come to make anyone believe ICS will be faster than HC on the same hardware.
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Installing an ICS (AOKP) ROM on my 10.1 sped up the interface very noticeably. Aside from the brief blanking during screen rotation, it runs as smooth as an iPad. There are also lots of nice little touches like being able to flick an app closed (like in WebOS) from the open apps pane.
Now, all the clamoring for ICS is kind of silly, and Apple device users look at that as a reason not to bother with Android, but if done right it will be a worthwhile improvement over 3.x.

[Q] Which is better ? ICS from Samsung or CM9

I am looking at getting ICS from Samsung on mt GT 10.1, but it's already rooted, and if I want the official ICS, I have to un-root it. Not sure how I will do this. But before going through all this, I want to know what users prefer: ICS from Samsung or CyanogenMod ?
BTW: What's the safest way to un-root a GT 10.1 ? I got mine from USA, although I am in Canada.
Thanks

uhh? maybe i'm slow in australia but i didnt think ICS was out yet? would be the best surprise if it was...

I prefer ICS from Samsung as it will have no bugs also I like touchwiz
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jfmessier said:
I am looking at getting ICS from Samsung on mt GT 10.1, but it's already rooted, and if I want the official ICS, I have to un-root it. Not sure how I will do this. But before going through all this, I want to know what users prefer: ICS from Samsung or CyanogenMod ?
BTW: What's the safest way to un-root a GT 10.1 ? I got mine from USA, although I am in Canada.
Thanks
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In order to unroot flash a stock rom OR remove su from /system/bin and delete superuser.apk from system/system apps and reboot OR download SuperSU from market which does the same!
None can tell you which rom is best. I personally prefer cm but I haven't seen the official yet. The safest way was, and will be to try them both!
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Try ACS's method
I unrooted mine last night in prep for the official release rumored to come out anytime soon. I used this method:
[ACSyndicate] [How-To] Root/Unroot The SGT 10.1 GT-P7510 USA Retail WiFi Only http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1474971
As for the diff's between CM9 and official ICS, ICS should have a working camera, but when the libs are released, you can bet your bottom dollar that these geniuses will have a modded rom based on it shortly.

If it's like ICS for the SGS2, I'd prefer Samsung's. They did a nice job and Task will clean it up well.

You don't need to unroot to get the update, i updated 4 times without unrooting using kies, and to unroot without the need to flash a new rom use (gingerbreak.apk ) and choose option unroot it works for me.
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ali magdy said:
I prefer ICS from Samsung as it will have no bugs also I like touchwiz
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You mean like how honeycomb had no bugs when samsung first released it?

mike-y said:
You mean like how honeycomb had no bugs when samsung first released it?
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+1...we all blame Samsung for being the last to offer the update, but 3.2 was flawless for me...even battery life. The battery, which supposedly lasts 9 hours, lasted 10 with really hard use (3g constantly on, email sending, a little gaming, and 4 episodes of game of thrones and of course browsing and keeping an eye on xda...)
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You don't need to unroot and I wouldn't be surprised if a dev released a rooted stock ICS rom before the actual release date

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If it's like ICS for the SGS2, I'd prefer Samsung's. They did a nice job and Task will clean it up well.
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If I read this correctly, you're confirming that an update to ICS for your SGS2 in available in Hartford, CT?

Will they instead release JB, now that it is out ?
I am wondering here whether it will be worth going to ICS and then, instead of jumping directly to JB. Could it be what Samsung is/was waiting for ? Now that I have the tools to properly restore HoneyComb 3.2 anytime, I will wait and see, but until then, I will enjoy this CM [early] version of Jelly Bean. You can find the details here.

ali magdy said:
I prefer ICS from Samsung as it will have no bugs also I like touchwiz
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There is no such thing as "no bugs", it is just the nature of software being coded by human beings and the thousands (if not millions) of lines of code it takes to make all this stuff work. I think people don't understand what it actually takes for these companies to put out these updates. It is amazing to me that they get them out as quickly as they actually do to be honest.

I don't want to be a troll, but the answer to the question "ics official or cm9" is "cm10". Up until 3 days ago I was with stock 3.2 waiting for oficial ICS, but after reading the thread about cm10 preview I decited to try it and after installing it's like having a new tablet. It amazingly fast and rock solid stable. With 3.2 I've never used the task switcher button, because it was terrible slow. Now with JB I can't live without it.
It's still a preview version, but really I don't want more. The only thing is the missing camera, but I never use it.

Putting JB on my tab made me feel like I got a whole new tab.

Will Samsung skip ICS and give us JB straight?

I really doubt it will comes true... but worth of dreaming....

I hope so :laugh:

Im guessing Sammy and Moto got the PDK beta a month or two ago, so while it is actually possible; in my mind, I know better to than to get my hopes up.

Careful gents its the hope that kills you. ;-)
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i wondered how you guys still trust and make hopes with this company!!
Samsung will not give you anything sir, it is just taking from you. don't kill your self by waiting the mirage

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Im guessing Sammy and Moto got the PDK beta a month or two ago, so while it is actually possible; in my mind, I know better to than to get my hopes up.
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3 months according to google, but if anything is to arrive with Jellybean it will be the Note 2 or possibly a nexus successor.

Doubt it, they have announced ICS to be released between July and August, so why would they turn sround and decide to give us JB.
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The only way to have JB on our tab is to help the only one developer that worked hard on a CM9 porting
He needs donation since his tab is broken:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1722634
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furius said:
The only way to have JB on our tab is to help the only one developer that worked hard on a CM9 porting
He needs donation since his tab is broken:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1722634
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No disrespect but i think he was asking about stock JB not a modified ROM built from ICS/JB , not a lot of us are instered in mofied ROMS

Is that a trick question? Lets get ICS first
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Well there's another dev working at the tab that I know of, Sk806.
So Locera, SK806, that's two... Still not much but value both of them.
We should be happy we get ICS, it will just make us think we got a new device,
and the step to JB won't be that hard for the devs then.. I guess..I hope.. I don't care I want ICS now please, this HC feels sluggish.

ZhenMing said:
I really doubt it will comes true... but worth of dreaming....
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The nexus 7 pretty much rendered the tab 7.7 obsolete when it comes to software (and speed due to software optimization alone) . There's no salesman in the world that could sell it to a customer instead of the nexus 7.

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The nexus 7 pretty much rendered the tab 7.7 obsolete when it comes to software (and speed due to software optimization alone) . There's no salesman in the world that could sell it to a customer instead of the nexus 7.
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Ours has a bigger better screen ,and waaay thinner... sold! :highfive:

Skip ics. I'm running jelly bean on my galaxy nexus and I can say unequivocally that it's hands down better. I can't believe the difference.
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Nope, sadly. I'd like to keep this tab for awhile longer and it would be nice if Samsung showed up Apple and keeps updating it (and other recent Galaxy devices) for at least one more version. But, nah. Maybe it will be easier for someone to port 4.1 when the 4.0 source eventually gets out?
But if not...**** it, who cares. A few interface tweaks and some nice features, but the 7.7 will still be highly usable with ICS, I would say.

Theoretically the binary blob drivers that come with ICS source should be able to be used in JB builds? I'm guessing
The main obstacle in current ICS dev is lack of ICS drivers esp as they are closed sammy blobs

appelflap said:
The nexus 7 pretty much rendered the tab 7.7 obsolete when it comes to software (and speed due to software optimization alone) . There's no salesman in the world that could sell it to a customer instead of the nexus 7.
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Unless of course he is traveling salesman. Travel with Nexus 7 is somewhat restricted to about 100 meters.

I see no technical reason why the 7.7 should not be able to run JB unless JB needs 2Gb of memory.

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I see no technical reason why the 7.7 should not be able to run JB unless JB needs 2Gb of memory.
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Jelly Belly (yes i ment to say belly and not bean) does not need to have 2 gb of RAM. I hope ICS helps out the 7.7 but i also ordered a nexus 7 to see what it can offer for the price.

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Theoretically the binary blob drivers that come with ICS source should be able to be used in JB builds? I'm guessing
The main obstacle in current ICS dev is lack of ICS drivers esp as they are closed sammy blobs
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I was thinking the same thing. And hoping it is indeed the case.