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[Q] While we're waiting for ICS...

Considering, from a hardware standpoint, how similar the Note and the 7.7 are, has anyone thought to maybe make a Honeycomb 3.2 ROM for the Note based off of a 7.7 build?
Can this be done? What are the implications? What are the technical hurdles? Is it worth it?
Thoughts and comments appreciated, and perhaps developer intrigue would be a bonus!

Jade Eyed Wolf said:
Considering, from a hardware standpoint, how similar the Note and the 7.7 are, has anyone thought to maybe make a Honeycomb 3.2 ROM for the Note based off of a 7.7 build?
Can this be done? What are the implications? What are the technical hurdles? Is it worth it?
Thoughts and comments appreciated, and perhaps developer intrigue would be a bonus!
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Honeycomb was tablet-only, so at the very least, you'd likely lose all phone functionality.

dwboston said:
Honeycomb was tablet-only, so at the very least, you'd likely lose all phone functionality.
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Why do you think so? As far as I know Galaxy tab 7.7 is capable of making phone calls too...

lxxxxxr said:
Why do you think so? As far as I know Galaxy tab 7.7 is capable of making phone calls too...
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Yes it is!
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Exactly my point! Since the 7.7, specifically the P6800, (which I own btw and it is fantastic) is a fully functioning phone in every respect, why couldn't we make a Note compatible port of its ROM?
I mean, I'm sure that once the Note does officially receive ICS, it'll be 5 minutes before someone here changes the DPI setting so that we'll effectively have full blown tablet ICS running on the Note, which is going to be awesome of course! But who knows how long that will take before we actually get ICS?
Hence my whole reasoning behind creating this post in the first place.
With Honeycomb running on the 7.7, you really do have the best of both worlds; you have a true tablet (I say this because, having used both devices, I really feel that the Note is more of a huge phone than a small tablet), and it just so happens that that tablet can double as your phone! Brilliant!
Thus, I think it would be awesome to bring Honeycomb (assuming it's even possible) to the Note. You would be able to take advantage of native hardware acceleration for the UI, as well as getting the benefit of a full tablet OS on your device, and all without sacrificing your ability to make and receive normal phone calls and SMS/MMS.

The ics Cyano ROM came about only after a leak. I doubt we will see a leak of HC as all efforts of Samsung are on the ics. And no developer would build from scratch a ROM with the ics a few weeks.
Cool idea but it will not happen.
OTOH I would love to see ics parts transferred to out GB . Gmail and browser, but they are depending on kernel, so that will not happen either.
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geonahta said:
The ics Cyano ROM came about only after a leak. I doubt we will see a leak of HC as all efforts of Samsung are on the ics. And no developer would build from scratch a ROM with the ics a few weeks.
Cool idea but it will not happen.
OTOH I would love to see ics parts transferred to out GB . Gmail and browser, but they are depending on kernel, so that will not happen either.
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True, but the CM9 ROM for the Note is an AOSP build, which is why so many things aren't working, due to hardware driver issues and such.
With a potential HC 3.2 port from the 7.7, considering the hardware similarities, that could be maybe easier and quicker to do? I'm not a dev, so I don't know... That's kinda why I was hoping for some thoughts and opinions from a ROM cooker or dev.
Here's to hoping!

Not worth it. Honeycomb is dead, and all tablets will get ICS. It's a waste of time, and we should concentrate on ICS.

LordManhattan said:
Not worth it. Honeycomb is dead, and all tablets will get ICS. It's a waste of time, and we should concentrate on ICS.
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I guess... At the very least, I wonder if it's possible to cannibalize the HC drivers from the 7.7 to work with the CM9 Alpha for the Note?

I have no idea, so someone else has to answer you on that one

Biggest problem I foresee is the same reason why there was no CM8. No HC source. But I don't know much just taking a guess.
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rquinn19 said:
Biggest problem I foresee is the same reason why there was no CM8. No HC source. But I don't know much just taking a guess.
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they released HC source when they released ICS source.

JamieD81 said:
they released HC source when they released ICS source.
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My bad. I missed that
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I don't think this is a good idea, HC was ridiculously difficult to port on Soc's other than TEGRA 2. I doubt it can be done before the official ics is released. What we should be putting more effort is on the CM9 port.
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Has the Official Icecream Sandwich rom been previewed yet?

Has anyone here seen a preview of the officiel Samsung icecream sandwich rom for the Galaxy Tab 10.1? Scheduled to be released by end of next month?

Unfortunately no. There's a number of preliminary roms leaked from samsung for the Galaxy II, but so far none was leaked for the GT 10.1. We anxiously wait for a leak, because drivers can be extracted from it and solve the non-working camera problem in recent CM9 builds and other problems as well.
In the meantime, if you want to feel ICS in your GT10.1, I really recommend the CM9 kangs in the dev forum. You'll feel like the tab worth the money after trying it

Not yet
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you can find some videos where are (some) samsung tabs with ics... and with touchwiz there,, sadly

I just installed kangs. Its nice but no camera which I can deal with.

Simpson8 said:
I just installed kangs. Its nice but no camera which I can deal with.
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This thread is asking about the official release rom, not the kangs. Please post accordingly.

Whennn ??
I hope as soon as possible. I want a stable ics rom.

Although the Kangs are very very good over honeycomb, battery life in the last few builds has been horrible to say the least. I have been using ROMs from mabalito & pershoot since a month now but both seem to drain the battery pretty quickly even after all the wiping, etc. Even personal hotspot is very dodgy. And WIFI issues are far too many since the last 5-6 builds. It is very irritating to keep checking every morning whether a new ics build with a fix is out or not. I am going back to honeycomb until the samsung leaks start happening.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1533832
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/03/1...leaked-now-available-for-download/#more-64614

mostafahosni said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1533832
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/03/1...leaked-now-available-for-download/#more-64614
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To bad your second link is irrelevant to the op asking about 10.1 tab.
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I'm guessing we wont see it officially until Samsung releases those new old tablets.

I would like ICS too. Like ASAP!

Don't think we'll ever see ics . The only to is to buy the same tab again...
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Waiting for ICJB - Ice Cream Jelly Bean

Can´t wait for samsung ICS, i use AOKP since months and i am very satisfied.
Now i actually use build 28, on the 10.1 TAB and on my Galaxy S Handy,
same look and feel on both devices.

The preview should basically be the same as Galaxy Note 10.1 with touchwiz Icecream Sandwich...coz more or less GTab 10.1 and GNote 10.1 fall in the same category of tablets...but however I prefer a full stock experience of AOSP...Hope touchwiz ICS won't disappoint like the touchwiz HC... ...still looking forward to Jellybean..!!

okpc said:
Don't think we'll ever see ics . The only to is to buy the same tab again...
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You sir are providing false information. ICS has been announced already, how can you say things like this?

aashayjardosh said:
Although the Kangs are very very good over honeycomb, battery life in the last few builds has been horrible to say the least. I have been using ROMs from mabalito & pershoot since a month now but both seem to drain the battery pretty quickly even after all the wiping, etc. Even personal hotspot is very dodgy. And WIFI issues are far too many since the last 5-6 builds. It is very irritating to keep checking every morning whether a new ics build with a fix is out or not. I am going back to honeycomb until the samsung leaks start happening.
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i just sad that many game have not working in my galaxy tab 10.1 with Kangs, like triple town, running fred...

t1mman said:
You sir are providing false information. ICS has been announced already, how can you say things like this?
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Announced? Links to the official announcement with its dates. Thanks!

EarlZ said:
Announced? Links to the official announcement with its dates. Thanks!
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Announcements:
http://www.facebook.com/notes/samsu...ch-upgrade-for-galaxy-devices/328795820483403
...or more recently:
http://www.facebook.com/notes/samsu...dwich-upgrade-for-galaxy-s-ii/390405030989148
But you'll be out of luck getting real dates as always with Samsung.
ICS for GALAXY Note, GALAXY S II LTE, GALAXY R, GALAXY Tab 7.0 Plus, 7.7, 8.9, 8.9 LTE and 10.1 will follow soon.
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Tab 7.7 official upgrade to ICS?

Any news Tab 7.7 will upgrade to ICS?
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Couldn't throw a question mark at the end of that title, huh?

tubekeeper said:
Any news Tab 7.7 will upgrade to ICS?
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No. .

It will be released next week. Samsung told me, but its a secret so don't tell anyone.

Richdog said:
It will be released next week. Samsung told me, but its a secret so don't tell anyone.
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No way, they told me I was the only one who knew ICS was coming out next week! The nerve of them lying to me about....

I work at Samsung, and we are planning to release it at 3 march, because of the launch of the iPad 3. Than there is another reason to buy an iPad . In the meantime; remove the scheduele widget, since I removed it, its as fast as a racing car. Seriously, remove that widget and you are good to go!
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expect android 5.0 jellymuffin, the following week, we here at samsung have just been pushing to stay ahead of the the competition.
inside tip: hold your finger over the proximity sensor and reboot 9 times in a row to enter magical unicorn mode!

laggy
vincentbosch said:
remove the scheduele widget, since I removed it, its as fast as a racing car. Seriously, remove that widget and you are good to go!
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Do you mean remove from start screen? Or uninstall it? I love this tablet but the laggyness and constant over-use off ram is killing

The official samsung info on the new android version 4.0 is that it is due for release on the Sg2 tab 10.1 and tab 8.9 and tab plus and tab 7.7 in Q2.
Knowing them it will mean towards the end of Q2 so my best guess would be June from past experience.
I must say im hoping for april myslef but the odds are not good.

lexx007 said:
The official samsung info on the new android version 4.0 is that it is due for release on the Sg2 tab 10.1 and tab 8.9 and tab plus and tab 7.7 in Q2.
Knowing them it will mean towards the end of Q2 so my best guess would be June from past experience.
I must say im hoping for april myslef but the odds are not good.
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Galaxy s2 now have a decent version of ics from samsung, I think one month and we will have it on 7.7
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Samsung seems to be among the first manufacturers to be ready to roll out Android 4.0 to their smartphones and tablets. It had to happen before the end of March, according to Samsung...
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Source: mobil.nu

rxxt said:
Source: mobil.nu
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Another news article is suggesting that ICS roll-out for SGS2 phone may happen from 1 March. They also say that a schedule hasn't been announced by Samsung for the tablets. Depending on the release date for Ipad3 and other manufacturer's tabs, commercial pressures may dictate priorities. Let's hope it is soon.
http://www.littlegreenrobot.co.uk/news/ice-cream-sandwich-update-schedule/

vincentbosch said:
...In the meantime; remove the scheduele widget, since I removed it, its as fast as a racing car. Seriously, remove that widget and you are good to go!
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This actually helped a little bit, thanks - the stock launcher is now tolerable to use, but no where near as smooth as on my Galaxy S2. I won't be really satisfied until it is.

baduus said:
This actually helped a little bit, thanks - the stock launcher is now tolerable to use, but no where near as smooth as on my Galaxy S2. I won't be really satisfied until it is.
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Like the other guy asked... You mead just delete (remove) the widget from the home screen?? Not uninstall the app?? right??
And when you'se say 'scheduele' you mean the calendar??
thanks....

For thailand it seems to be march 30th. The original pic has been taken down.
http://www.siamtab.com/topic/24-02-2012-android-4-0-ice-cream-sandwich-update-for-samsung/

jimmbomb said:
Like the other guy asked... You mead just delete (remove) the widget from the home screen?? Not uninstall the app?? right??
And when you'se say 'scheduele' you mean the calendar??
thanks....
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Yeah, I assumed he meant the calendar and just removed the widget from the home screen.
It seems to have helped with smoothness.

Looking forward to an official ICS or better cooked rom because the stock 3.2 laggy to me when I enter from a home screen to apps list or rolling between apps list the screen. The rest is good to me...

ICS can't come soon enough... Honeycomb is pretty crappy really.

I'm looking at getting a Galaxy Tab 7.7, as I'm quite bummed out by the Transformer Prime and the GT 7.7 is much more portable. I was shocked at the Prime's lagginess when I got it, it was still running HC 3.2.
Then the update to ICS came.
I have in the whole 25 years I'm into computers not ONCE seen such a dramatic increase in performance as with the switch from HC to ICS. ICS is not flawless however, probably one of the reasons it takes the manuifacturers forever to port it. And the Prime has it's issues, Asus is testing out like the fifth beta update now and nothing seems to resolve reboot or battery drain or screen flicker issues on some devices.
Hope ICS for the GT 7.7 will be out soon to make my decision.

I dont have any lag or smooth issues with HC, just need to replace TW with a launcher like GO launcher or ADW launcher EX and it works much better.

Will Samsung skip ICS and give us JB straight?

I really doubt it will comes true... but worth of dreaming....

I hope so :laugh:

Im guessing Sammy and Moto got the PDK beta a month or two ago, so while it is actually possible; in my mind, I know better to than to get my hopes up.

Careful gents its the hope that kills you. ;-)
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i wondered how you guys still trust and make hopes with this company!!
Samsung will not give you anything sir, it is just taking from you. don't kill your self by waiting the mirage

chrisrotolo said:
Im guessing Sammy and Moto got the PDK beta a month or two ago, so while it is actually possible; in my mind, I know better to than to get my hopes up.
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3 months according to google, but if anything is to arrive with Jellybean it will be the Note 2 or possibly a nexus successor.

Doubt it, they have announced ICS to be released between July and August, so why would they turn sround and decide to give us JB.
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The only way to have JB on our tab is to help the only one developer that worked hard on a CM9 porting
He needs donation since his tab is broken:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1722634
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furius said:
The only way to have JB on our tab is to help the only one developer that worked hard on a CM9 porting
He needs donation since his tab is broken:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1722634
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No disrespect but i think he was asking about stock JB not a modified ROM built from ICS/JB , not a lot of us are instered in mofied ROMS

Is that a trick question? Lets get ICS first
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Well there's another dev working at the tab that I know of, Sk806.
So Locera, SK806, that's two... Still not much but value both of them.
We should be happy we get ICS, it will just make us think we got a new device,
and the step to JB won't be that hard for the devs then.. I guess..I hope.. I don't care I want ICS now please, this HC feels sluggish.

ZhenMing said:
I really doubt it will comes true... but worth of dreaming....
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The nexus 7 pretty much rendered the tab 7.7 obsolete when it comes to software (and speed due to software optimization alone) . There's no salesman in the world that could sell it to a customer instead of the nexus 7.

appelflap said:
The nexus 7 pretty much rendered the tab 7.7 obsolete when it comes to software (and speed due to software optimization alone) . There's no salesman in the world that could sell it to a customer instead of the nexus 7.
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Ours has a bigger better screen ,and waaay thinner... sold! :highfive:

Skip ics. I'm running jelly bean on my galaxy nexus and I can say unequivocally that it's hands down better. I can't believe the difference.
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Nope, sadly. I'd like to keep this tab for awhile longer and it would be nice if Samsung showed up Apple and keeps updating it (and other recent Galaxy devices) for at least one more version. But, nah. Maybe it will be easier for someone to port 4.1 when the 4.0 source eventually gets out?
But if not...**** it, who cares. A few interface tweaks and some nice features, but the 7.7 will still be highly usable with ICS, I would say.

Theoretically the binary blob drivers that come with ICS source should be able to be used in JB builds? I'm guessing
The main obstacle in current ICS dev is lack of ICS drivers esp as they are closed sammy blobs

appelflap said:
The nexus 7 pretty much rendered the tab 7.7 obsolete when it comes to software (and speed due to software optimization alone) . There's no salesman in the world that could sell it to a customer instead of the nexus 7.
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Unless of course he is traveling salesman. Travel with Nexus 7 is somewhat restricted to about 100 meters.

I see no technical reason why the 7.7 should not be able to run JB unless JB needs 2Gb of memory.

Gaugerer said:
I see no technical reason why the 7.7 should not be able to run JB unless JB needs 2Gb of memory.
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Jelly Belly (yes i ment to say belly and not bean) does not need to have 2 gb of RAM. I hope ICS helps out the 7.7 but i also ordered a nexus 7 to see what it can offer for the price.

wintermute000 said:
Theoretically the binary blob drivers that come with ICS source should be able to be used in JB builds? I'm guessing
The main obstacle in current ICS dev is lack of ICS drivers esp as they are closed sammy blobs
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I was thinking the same thing. And hoping it is indeed the case.

Jelly Bean for TF101 Confirmed

Update: Asus Germany denies that their colleagues from the Netherlands have made such a statement about TF101/SL101, adding that they only confirmed Android 4.1 upgrade for TF201/TF300/TF700 tablets and that it is just pure speculation. According to their current information TF101 and SL101 users will enjoy Android 4.1 upgrade too. Here’s the whole statement made by Asus Germany on their Facebook page.
Source. http://www.pocketdroid.net/android-41-upgrade-asus-tf101-slider-sl101/#.UAZYbnB9m2y
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nice msgs, let us ask more asus reps from all other major areas to confirmed.

Nothings confirmed unless it comes from Asus Taiwan through official channels.

CrazyPeter said:
Nothings confirmed unless it comes from Asus Taiwan through official channels.
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Nothing is confirmed until I have the upgrade on my Transformer!

http://global.christianpost.com/new...android-4-1-jellybean-update-confirmed-78423/

WOW ITS ALREADY HERE!!!!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1779133&page=13
(check befor posting!)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1778063
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1778907
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1779540

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WOW ITS ALREADY HERE!!!!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1779133&page=13
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Pretty Amazing. An Alpha-1 release, and the biggest problem right now appears to be the camera.

yesss very nice

JB isn't that much different from ICS. Nothing to get excited about.
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JB isn't that much different from ICS. Nothing to get excited about.
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Have you actually used Jelly Bean? Performance is fantastic, Project Butter really makes everything so smooth. That is a very significant feature for me, and I'm sure it is for a lot of other people.
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I am currently Using Jellybean by Team EOS And let me tell your..... ITS A GOOGLE MARICLE
Its Fast
ItS Smooth
It has higher Graphics Performace on Games [Tested Dead Trigger with Tegra 3 Fx]
Its Overall an IOS Killer
P.s
Currently i am using Chrome which worked **** on ICS Plus Just imagin all of this is an a 1st Beta......
I Tried Jelleybean and its current flaws on the Beta but with its consitancy I Plan on staying with it! [BYE ICS] Oh and Ty ASUS For Keeping US !

asus have proved to me why I should be their loyal customer... fast update.. and they don't dump their old customer... and even good news is asus made the nexus 7.. they'll get my money for that soon enough..
currently EOS JB rom too... performance was superb.. though it is still not perfect... can't wait for official release! any news when?

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Have you actually used Jelly Bean? Performance is fantastic, Project Butter really makes everything so smooth. That is a very significant feature for me, and I'm sure it is for a lot of other people.
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Yeah he's used Jelly Bean... he has a Galaxy Nexus and so do I but I totally disagree with player911.
Jelly Bean is more of a 'behind the scenes' optimized version of Android. Project Butter is HUGE, although it may not look like so but the overall responsiveness of Android OS is SUPERB and I have a feeling that this is just the beginning. When comparing ICS to JB, it is absolutely night and day difference.
Can't wait for a finalized ROM with all the features we love in a bug free ROM

i installed team eos jb rom. while it does much smoother then ics, it's not stutter free. low frame rate occurred when you happened to run active running process in the background. but it is huge improvement compared to ics. now with live wallpaper, sliding between home screen is still very smooth.

xufuchang said:
i installed team eos jb rom. while it does much smoother then ics, it's not stutter free. low frame rate occurred when you happened to run active running process in the background. but it is huge improvement compared to ics. now with live wallpaper, sliding between home screen is still very smooth.
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It will probably get better as drivers get updated for TF101.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6106/...to-bring-jelly-bean-to-transformer-pad-series
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Dear valued ASUS customer,
At ASUS, one of the key commitments we make to our customers is a relentless drive to deliver the best user experience. We constantly strive to achieve this goal through our ‘Design Thinking’ philosophy that includes regular software and firmware updates for our products.
We are pleased to announce that many of our tablet products are scheduled to receive an update to Android 4.1, Jelly Bean. The ASUS Transformer Pad, ASUS Transformer Pad Prime and ASUS Transformer Pad Infinity are all scheduled to receive Android 4.1 updates in the coming months. We will provide further guidance on our expected timeframes for these updates near their release.
We are still investigating Jelly Bean updates for other devices, but we are not in a position to confirm whether any other products will be eligible for an update at the moment.
Thank you for your continued support.
ASUS
Read more at http://www.anandtech.com/show/6106/...to-transformer-pad-series#BqELg3Derzpvbt5M.99
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zephiK said:
It will probably get better as drivers get updated for TF101.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6106/...to-bring-jelly-bean-to-transformer-pad-series
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I was just getting ready to post that also as I just saw it on FB. Glad the Tegra 3 devices are getting it. I hope they decide to bring it to the Tegra 2 devices also, since I own one of them. If not, then I'll wait for the devs and custom JB roms.

I don't have a transformer, but I'll second that. "Project butter" makes it sound gimmicky, but It really is a significant difference.

I installed the Cyangenmod 10.0 Preview yesterday and was very surprised by how smooth it was already. I am yet to have a FC on the rom, not to say one will not come.

veloom said:
I installed the Cyangenmod 10.0 Preview yesterday and was very surprised by how smooth it was already. I am yet to have a FC on the rom, not to say one will not come.
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I wish that it would be updated to latest cm10 source as it has most of the features already ported over.
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Asus Italia has just said that the TF101 won't receive JB
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