OK guys we seem to be cluttering up the dev thread with idle chitchat and rubbish. Lets move all that here and clean it before the mods have to. If u have a question just ask and I am sure someone else will be running that rom ad can help.
Full credits to Gavin for this fantastic kernel
Link to kernel thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=28245219
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PS people please don't clog the thread with quadrant scores as they really do not mean anything with the devices we use now. Just another way of saying I can fry my phone faster or my Willy is bigger than yours. Thanx
Thanx for this as i was going to open this.but found this one.:thumbup:
Swyped From My AOKP JB.
I was looking for this thread just now, was running the latest PA JB rom but it wasn't butter smooth... untill I flashed this kernel.
Damn, it's like having a new phone, unbelievable how it changed the responiveness of my Note.
Great work!
sahilarora2003 said:
Thanx for this as i was going to open this.but found this one.:thumbup:
Swyped From My AOKP JB.
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Glad u found it. Don't want mods closing dev thread.
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Anyone tried with miui v4? I had 2.8.31 installed.
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What base rom is that miui v4 based on?
First of all, wonderfull kernel. It rocks on stock rom LRK. Really the best kernel I've ever tested. Thank you very much g.lewarne for sharing your work with us.
But I have one question, maybe someone can explain this:
I don't really understand what does Voltgroups are used for. I mean what is the difference between groups ? Is there a better group for overclocking, such things...
Thanks
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OK guys we seem to be cluttering up the dev thread with idle chitchat and rubbish. Lets move all that here and clean it before the mods have to. If u have a question just ask and I am sure someone else will be running that rom ad can help.
Full credits to Gavin for this fantastic kernel
Press thanx if u find this helpfull
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thanks swagonman., just what we needed
maybe we can include a link to the main thread in the OP and a note on where the devlopment stands , latest version / known bugs etc ?
rraaka said:
thanks swagonman., just what we needed
maybe we can include a link to the main thread in the OP and a note on where the devlopment stands , latest version / known bugs etc ?
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Great stuff will do now
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lebaron90 said:
First of all, wonderfull kernel. It rocks on stock rom LRK. Really the best kernel I've ever tested. Thank you very much g.lewarne for sharing your work with us.
But I have one question, maybe someone can explain this:
I don't really understand what does Voltgroups are used for. I mean what is the difference between groups ? Is there a better group for overclocking, such things...
Thanks
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From what I recall in the original thread, Gavin explained there are three voltage groups A, B and C. There is only one on your Note, and it is dependent on the hardware of the phone. I have B which seems to be relatively stable (hope I don't jinx myself). You cannot change the voltage group.
Gavin used this information to set voltages for each CPU by gathering info from many users in each group. Some groups require higher minimum voltage than others.
If you search the HydraCore development thread and look at the first three or four posts that match you should find Gavin's very good explanation - he is a great explainer. :good:
sswagonman said:
OK guys we seem to be cluttering up the dev thread with idle chitchat and rubbish. Lets move all that here and clean it before the mods have to. If u have a question just ask and I am sure someone else will be running that rom ad can help.
Full credits to Gavin for this fantastic kernel
Link to kernel thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=28245219
Press thanx if u find this helpfull
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This was great idea,thanks...:good:
TempusFudgeIt said:
From what I recall in the original thread, Gavin explained there are three voltage groups A, B and C. There is only one on your Note, and it is dependent on the hardware of the phone. I have B which seems to be relatively stable (hope I don't jinx myself). You cannot change the voltage group.
Gavin used this information to set voltages for each CPU by gathering info from many users in each group. Some groups require higher minimum voltage than others.
If you search the HydraCore development thread and look at the first three or four posts that match you should find Gavin's very good explanation - he is a great explainer. :good:
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precisely correct!
Each Note seems to contain one of 3 motherboard / cpu revisions. The kernel is able to detect which version is present, and selects the appropriate cpu voltage table for it. As Tempus said, you cannot change voltage groups, the information is there simply to aid myself in voltage adjustments.
Originally it was implemented so I could gather stability reports from many users with different versions. Since I have a Group B i was only ever able to test voltages for Group B phones. Once we knew thow the groups worked, other users were then able to experiment with Tegrak overclock is finding the lowest stable voltages, and over time i built up a pretty good spreadsheet of voltage groups / frequencies and stable minimum voltages.
I then simply increased the average minimum voltages a little (for stability) and put the tables in the kernel.
Since then, there isnt an awful lot of need for knowing the voltage groups, but its a neat little feature so i kept it
:good:
It does have perhaps one useful feature for the users, if you do as stated in my Kernel thread OP and install STD first (as this will work for everyone) you can determine the likelyhood of you being able to run the OC/UV kernel
If you have a Group A it is unlikely the OC kernel will work stably for you (but it does for some)
If you have a Group B it is highly likely that the OC kernel will work for you without stablilty issues
If you have a Group C is is almost guranteed than you can run OC without any problems
anagin, each phone is different and ymmv
TempusFudgeIt said:
From what I recall in the original thread, Gavin explained there are three voltage groups A, B and C. There is only one on your Note, and it is dependent on the hardware of the phone. I have B which seems to be relatively stable (hope I don't jinx myself). You cannot change the voltage group.
Gavin used this information to set voltages for each CPU by gathering info from many users in each group. Some groups require higher minimum voltage than others.
If you search the HydraCore development thread and look at the first three or four posts that match you should find Gavin's very good explanation - he is a great explainer. :good:
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Thansk for the answer.
In fact, I've searched the Hydracore thread and even the whole forum but I didn't manage to find something really clear about these volt groups.
I figure that the lower voltage the hardware needs, the better it will be for overclocking but I don't know wich group needs less or higher voltage. In fact is it worth or not to use the OC version with for example group A, or it isn't because the CPU overheat and slow down frequency by itself.
Edit: just saw you response Gavin, thanks for the explanation. So, to conclude, for common user like me, if the kernel is working without problems or FC, I don't really have to bother much about these groups
lebaron90 said:
Thansk for the answer.
In fact, I've searched the Hydracore thread and even the whole forum but I didn't manage to find something really clear about these volt groups.
I figure that the lower voltage the hardware needs, the better it will be for overclocking but I don't know wich group needs less or higher voltage. In fact is it worth or not to use the OC version with for example group A, or it isn't because the CPU overheat and slow down frequency by itself.
Edit: just saw you response Gavin, thanks for the explanation. So, to conclude, for common user like me, if the kernel is working without, I don't really have to bother much about these groups
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lol we keep typi8ng at the same time
Yeah dont worry about the voltage groups if kernel running fine.
g.lewarne said:
lol we keep typi8ng at the same time
Yeah dont worry about the voltage groups if kernel running fine.
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Whts the best governer settings gavin?
Im using lulzactive with noop
Wht u suggest ?
Swyped From My AOKP JB.
sahilarora2003 said:
Whts the best governer settings gavin?
Im using lulzactive with noop
Wht u suggest ?
Swyped From My AOKP JB.
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why is lulzactive so popular?
To answer your question the best governors and schedulers are the kernel defaults
OnDemand and Noop.
OnDemand is a tuned version, and for me gives the best battery life and real world performance
I would also rate governors as such
OnDemand > PegasusQ > Adaptive > Everything else
and schedulers
Noop > SIO > Deadline > Everything else
sahilarora2003 said:
Whts the best governer settings gavin?
Im using lulzactive with noop
Wht u suggest ?
Swyped From My AOKP JB.
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I use lulzactive and vr. Vr can b a bit harsh sometimes and give reboobs (TM chasmodo) so sio is another good option with lulzactive
Really the best thing to do is try different combinations till u find what u r looking for
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why is lulzactive so popular?
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probably just because of its name !
I get around 3hr of screen time mostly web browsing and regular social stuf with std hydracore... what about you guys ?!
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Related
Over my time here in XDA I've built up a few studies on the Nexus S.
Here are the links. There are summaries in each thread in the first and second (and sometimes third) posts of the main findings, but I've done some very quick and minimal overviews here also.
How to build a kernel: this thread
-This post takes you through installing Ubuntu right through to managing git, in order to compile your own kernel, and flash it in CWM recovery!
-Includes the tools you need to add MTP capabilities to your kernel.
User eXperience Benchmarks: this thread
-This shows which ROM and kernel threads have the best user feedback. The feedback is processed by an external sentiment analysis API. It is only meant as a rough guide, something of a quick reference particularly if you are looking for a new ROM to try. As of June 2012 this is no longer maintained.
All ICS ROM Benchmarks: this thread
-Freely available benchmark programs were used to determine which ROMs had the best performance. Generally the difference between the best ones is very small.
Battery Drain Benchmarks: this thread
-A collection of tips for getting the best battery life, and dispelling some myths.
Kernel Features and Benchmarks: this thread
-My original study, the one that started it all, the kernel benchmarks! Provides a quick table to compare which kernels perform best in CPU/RAM/IO/Database/Graphics.
CPU Governors and I/O Schedulers: this thread
-A study done to find which schedulers perform best in combination with the most popular governors. My two favourites (ondemand and smartassV2) combine best with noop.
Power Saving Governors: this thread
-A meta study done combining the findings from the battery study and governor study to show which governors will save the most power. Ondemand comes out significantly better than conservative, which surprised me. SmartassV2 is the best compromise for high performance and efficiency.
Does SuperCharging work?: this thread
-This was just a short study to find out if this script is suitable for the Nexus S, but it turned out it had no effect, positive or negative.
Kernel Memory Allocators: this thread
-This is another short study for kernel developers to show that SLUB performs best.
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This thread is just an index. Our new mod veyka agreed would be a good idea to summarise all my studies for addition into the sticky roundup.
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EDIT: Feel free to suggest any new things that I might be able to test!
im out of thanks for today.. but, awesome work regardless. thank you
simms22 said:
im out of thanks for today.. but, awesome work regardless. thank you
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Me too, but thank you too!
Edit: ah just use the app, unlimited thanks!
bedalus said:
Me too, but thank you too!
Edit: ah just use the app, unlimited thanks!
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really? unlimited? i dont use the app though, just the browser.
Uh, well, I haven't tested the limit... but I never get denied!
All your work was great I battery drain thread was very helpful
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Thanks for all your hard work.
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IF , one of my assassins had done their job ..........
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When they finally come for me, I will benchmark their performance.
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When they finally come for me, I will benchmark their performance.
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nice answer
And nice guide for your very instructive benchmarks bedalus
Even when browsing through the app you'd still get that annoying thanks limit.
This is a really good overview for new NS users. (I doubt there are ever some since mostly would go directly for G-Nex)
What's next?
That "Oodie's Assassins' Performance Benchmark" sounds interesting, though.
PS: @Oodie, you should have kanged your assassins before sending them to bedalus' compound. That way, your assassins' would have at least injured bedalus
UPDATE: Memory Allocators studied. SLUB wins!
Great reference for a refresher or for a new comer. Really like the battery drain benchmarks and how you discuss some myths. Governors is great...love Smartass V2 with Matrix V20!!
Thanks @bedalus!! Totally deserves a sticky.
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Thanks. It's in the sticky roundup!
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Thanks. It's in the sticky roundup!
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Can we vote for the sticky or it is just for the moderators?
There was like ten stickies, I think veyka wants to keep everything in a list in one sticky.
I appreciate the sentiment though!
bedalus said:
There was like ten stickies, I think veyka wants to keep everything in a list in one sticky.
I appreciate the sentiment though!
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thank you for all your work, love your kernels ... currently been using deadline/ondemand but since you say it is not best I will try smartassv2+noop.. (I've found smartass with other combinations give me a lot of lag)
BLaZeDRas said:
thank you for all your work, love your kernels ... currently been using deadline/ondemand but since you say it is not best I will try smartassv2+noop.. (I've found smartass with other combinations give me a lot of lag)
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Ondemand for good balance between performance and battery saving. Smartassv2 for gaming. CFQ and deadline are the best governors, but deadline probably has the edge.
Thanks! Now this widens my perspective on choosing my own Governor and Scheduler Combo.
Hey guys
since i saw a lot of kernel for the beast N7100
and i think a lot of you may be asking which kernel to choose
i liked just to make a small comparison for those kernel via Antutu Benchmark
some of you care for the performance results, and some just want a balance Kernel
therefore i tested almost all kernel for the SAMMY based kernels and upload the pix for you
in this way you may get a better idea how might your phone look alike, But also you have to watch you Battery
All Kernels without modifications just flashed and tested with 1600 MHz
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All Kernels without modifications just flashed and tested with 1800 MHz
All Kernels without modifications just flashed and tested with 2000 MHz
Correction for 2 kernel name, Perseus 1.36, and Redpill 1.47
It migt be not so important for you,
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alright but now do some tests for battery life, i think thats no1 reason what people want in custom kernel
use every kernel for few days with "normal" usage and do screenshots every day of battery and screen on time when batttery goes critical. i planned to do that but kinda lazy
also it would be good to do some recording of wakelocks on every kernel.
trpi said:
alright but now do some tests for battery life, i think thats no1 reason what people want in custom kernel
use every kernel for few days with "normal" usage and do screenshots every day of battery and screen on time when batttery goes critical. i planned to do that but kinda lazy
also it would be good to do some recording of wakelocks on every kernel.
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thats indeed better, but me also cant make the test for battery...since i daily or every 2 days change a rom....my phone is not stable on any rom lol
Were these benchmark runs only once?
McLaren__F1 said:
Were these benchmark runs only once?
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if u mean one test for kernel, then yes
good comparison.. which rom where u using while doing the testing??
also which baseband and build?
This is so completely irrelevant to anyone but you. A single run of benchmarks is in no way indicitave of a kernels performance.
Anyone making the decision to flash a kernel based solely on a screenshot of some benchmarks should just stick to stock and save themselves the hassle.
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fake_japanese_guy said:
good comparison.. which rom where u using while doing the testing??
also which baseband and build?
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On alliance rom v3 dmc3 baseband xdkl7...when ur rom will be ready ?
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This is so completely irrelevant to anyone but you. A single run of benchmarks is in no way indicitave of a kernels performance.
Anyone making the decision to flash a kernel based solely on a screenshot of some benchmarks should just stick to stock and save themselves the hassle.
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So where is ur point?
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mrlove6 said:
So where is ur point?
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My point is that the information you have provided is useful only to you and even then it isn't particularly useful.
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My point is that the information you have provided is useful only to you and even then it isn't particularly useful.
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Maybe thats ur opinion..when benchmark and kernels are never important there was no need to invent the benchmark. ...anyway ill try to contact phonearena.com and gsmarena.com and tell them to stop testing phones on benchmark ( useless ) becuase u said so. Thanks for ur pass
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it is interesting someone post a result with 3d score 863 for a note 2. do you know what that mean?
Means overclicking so much isnt good with this kernal...and as u see I think its the only one have low value
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Maybe thats ur opinion..when benchmark and kernels are never important there was no need to invent the benchmark. ...anyway ill try to contact phonearena.com and gsmarena.com and tell them to stop testing phones on benchmark ( useless ) becuase u said so. Thanks for ur pass
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They actually use repeatable tests. Or at least I hope they do. Not just you running the benchmark once...
If you want even a modicum of respect in the field of scientific testing, you'd have given the details of the ROM version in use, and also the process used to average the results over a number of executions.
Scientific tests are based across running one test multiple times without changing anything, as it increases the reliability of the results if they agree with each other.
Usually you can discount the lowest and highest result each time you repeat the same test, but then you need to average the remaining results. I'd expect that benchmarks should be normally distributed around the actual score.
mrlove6 said:
Hey guys
since i saw a lot of kernel for the beast N7100
and i think a lot of you may be asking which kernel to choose
i liked just to make a small comparison for those kernel via Antutu Benchmark
some of you care for the performance results, and some just want a balance Kernel
therefore i tested almost all kernel for the SAMMY based kernels and upload the pix for you
in this way you may get a better idea how might your phone look alike, But also you have to watch you Battery
All Kernels without modifications just flashed and tested with 1600 MHz
All Kernels without modifications just flashed and tested with 1800 MHz
All Kernels without modifications just flashed and tested with 2000 MHz
It migt be not so important for you,
but if you think i helped you
please do not hesitate to click the Thanks button
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I got (1600Mhz) 1800+ score in AnTuTu ...without any junks i got 18500+
NEAK kernel...
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Which rom u r using ?
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Omega Rom v16+SaberKernel:good:
Wow your scores are pretty bad. I use to get 19,000+ with ARHD and Perseus kernel OC to 1.8Ghz and UV down to -50mv. However, I also realised that if you keep benchmarking repeatedly one after the other you will get lower scores due to built up of heat and other factors such as RAM usage. So the question is: How long did you wait between benchmarking a kernel and what were the precautions you took before initiating a benchmark run? And what was the average score of each kernel?
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Wow your scores are pretty bad. I use to get 19,000+ with ARHD and Perseus kernel OC to 1.8Ghz and UV down to -50mv. However, I also realised that if you keep benchmarking repeatedly one after the other you will get lower scores due to built up of heat and other factors such as RAM usage. So the question is: How long did you wait between benchmarking a kernel and what were the precautions you took before initiating a benchmark run? And what was the average score of each kernel?
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if u take a look on the screenshots, u will see exactly the time and the average compared to the 3 oc 1600 1800 and 2000
Maybe re-run the test? Clear Memory, Kill apps before running each test?
Take the average of lets say 3 runs?
Hey guys, eskriminal here
There's been interest shown by some users of dorimanx kernel to use the profiles in stweaks of some specific people with success (e.g. myself, @rkoby13 and @infatality)
So this thread is here to provide download links for profiles with various goals/strengths, and they'll be indexed in the second post here.
The main profiles will be those of me and @rkoby13, though if anyone has a profile to share and it's found to be good, it may be included in op as well
Instructions for installing profiles!
1. Ensure the kernel version of the backup (will be listed here) is compatible with your installed kernel version.
2. Select the profile you want (generally you should try them out to work out what's best for you)
3. Download the profile, and copy it to /data/.siyah/ on your phone (from root directory)
4. Go into STweaks and ensure you're on default profile, then select to Restore your profile backup.
5. Reboot and check if it was applied in STweaks! Enjoy!
To all posting profiles: please do not include any undervolting in the profiles posted here, only those given by pm. If your profile has undervolting, copy that section of the default profile and paste it over your changes prior to uploading. GPU undervolting is permissible if not too extreme.
ANY OVERCLOCK MUST BE STATED CLEARLY IN THE POST CONTAINING YOUR PROFILE.
Profiles:
1. 9.40 - eskriminal - zzmoove heavy battery tuning - CPU Underclock 1gz - GPU Underclock/Undervolt
Soon to be expanded!
eskriminal's profile flasher! is here
credits to @dorimanx, I used his updater script as base because the s2 has stupid mount points and I couldn't remember what they were
to use it open up the zip and put your profile in the data/.siyah folder
I haven't tested but it *should* work fine
Reserved
Great work guys. This looks to be a very helpful idea.
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Updated on 09/09/2013
My default profiles Dropbox folder
My DB folder....with default.profile and default.profile_backup ....
1st is for manual restore via data/.siyah/* replacement and/or via Stweaks by putting it to root of internal sdcard and restore via Stweals backup/restore tab....reboot in both cases! @eskriminal you can add them to your OP
>>>UPDATE: 26/10/2013
My DB folder above is updated with new profiles for backup/restore via Stweaks and for manual restore via replacing default.profile in data/.siyah/*
Details :Check it out before use:good:....note that profile is meant to be used with 9.43 official release by @dorimanx and I'm not responsible if your device blows up or you lose data or something if you will use it on another version of kernel
released. It's stable for me and it feels like :tank: :good:
Edit:...I have it perfectly stable and smooth with these settings...no SoDs freezes or such....:good:
and check spoiler for FUN:
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Would be a good idea to publish and battery life...
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+1
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Also subscribed, great work eskriminal (I'm mostly a silent lurker, but follow all 4 dori kernel threads).
Just wondering if the profiles posted here will be for only the official builds & releases? Or if you will have a separate section (maybe in 2nd or 3rd post) for beta version profiles? No pressure, just wondering.
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Haha.. I just realized this thread on my email! I will post my battery and default profile this evening especially for those on group 2!:sly:
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Hopper8 said:
Also subscribed, great work eskriminal (I'm mostly a silent lurker, but follow all 4 dori kernel threads).
Just wondering if the profiles posted here will be for only the official builds & releases? Or if you will have a separate section (maybe in 2nd or 3rd post) for beta version profiles? No pressure, just wondering.
Sent from a galaxy far, far away
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yep mate, the version will be listed with the profile in the op, and I at least will update for each beta, and probably the others will too
dinos3 said:
Would be a good idea to publish and battery life...
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I won't be doing this unless there's a lot of demand due to the fact that a major part of battery life is irrelevant to kernel parameters
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Default profile, v9.40.
This profile is for anyone who wants a profile which is based on the stock profile but with extra performance. It intentionally doesn't use all the 'cutting edge' governors and io schedulers. Its meant to be fast & stable. Using tuned hyper wake & a tuned conservative sleep. Sio /noop io schedulers.
OVERCLOCK CPU to 1.4 GHz (voltages untouched)
GPU OVERCLOCK - 330Mhz (voltage raised for step 5 as it's a higher clock speed). Also minimum GPU speed is 160Mhz.
This profile is one I have been tweaking for about a month over various kernel releases. It is intended for the quickest UI (scrolling, opening apps especially) but without sacrificing battery (I get 5.5 hour screen time). It will not work well for gaming due to io scheduler used.
Not that it matters, but for anyone interested this profile gets over 5000 in quadrant & 12500 in antutu.
http://db.tt/2eGnfGiR
@eskriminal please let me know if this is not how you intended users to upload their profiles. I'm happy to edit my post & (even take down) my profile if you desire, just trying to help
Edit : NOTE: I use the 'force auto data & force auto wifi' options under the 'tweaks' tab. If anyone uses my profile then that will disable data while screen is off. You may want to uncheck those boxes in Stweaks.
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Hopper8 said:
Default profile, v9.40.
This profile is for anyone who wants a profile which is based on the stock profile but with extra performance. It doesn't use all the 'cutting edge' governors and io schedulers, intentionally. Its meant to be fast & stable. Using tuned hyper wake & a tuned conservative sleep. Sio /noop io schedulers.
OVERCLOCK CPU to 1.4 GHz (voltages untouched)
GPU OVERCLOCK - 330Mhz (voltages raised for step 5). Also minimum GPU speed is 160Mhz.
This profile is one I have been tweaking for about a month over various kernel releases. It is intended for the quickest UI (scrolling, opening apps especially) but without sacrificing battery (I get 5.5 hour screen time). It will not work well for gaming due to io scheduler used.
Not that it matters, but for anyone interested this profile gets over 5000 in quadrant & 12500 in antutu.
http://db.tt/2eGnfGiR
@eskriminal please let me know if this is not how you intended users to upload their profiles. I'm happy to edit my post & (even take down) my profile if you desire, just trying to help
Edit : NOTE: I use the 'force auto data & force auto wifi' options under the 'tweaks' tab. If anyone uses my profile then that will disable data while screen is off. You may want to uncheck those boxes in Stweaks.
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that is exactly how you should post it, good job
not all those details are necessary, but they're fine to include if you have time
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Nice thread for newbs like me in kernel tuning
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@rkoby13, your setup at least working like a charm so far. Even Facebook app has lost its scrolling lag mostly. Curious how battery is affected by this "nitro-setup" ^_^
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@rkoby, your setup at least working like a charm so far. Even Facebook app has lost its scrolling lag mostly. Curious how battery is affected by this "nitro-setup" ^_^
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it's not nitro setup.....GPU quad core does it's job as it should at first place.....that's the place where boost comes out...:good:...GPU config is very important performance wise....at least for me.......you can oc your cpu up to 1.6 ghz and if you'll leave gpu set like it's set by default your scrolling & apps opening feeling won't be much better....so I pushed up last 2 gpu steps to 400mhz -1200mv and 440mhz. - 1250mv ....try to disable VPLL mode and reboot....you'll notice what i'm sayin'
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Everyone check the second op, nice surprise there
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eskriminal said:
Profiles:
1. 9.40 - eskriminal - zzmoove heavy battery tuning - CPU Underclock 1gz - GPU Underclock/Undervolt
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oops I don't even forum
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oops I don't even forum
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added to my db aswell :good:
neat...
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Hi all,
I've recently installed the overclocked kernel from squid and am having some trouble reaching the same benchmarks that he has hit. I am running stock MM with row 128 I/O and adreno-tz on the GPU. CPU is lionfish with min frequencies 800 on both clusters. I think squid is running CM13.
I consistently score between 680-740 single and 2680-2800 multi. Does this look about right for stock MM with the overlooked kernel?
Any help maximizing this would be greatly appreciated. I know these scores have (probably) very little to do with real-world use but if I can get more out of my device then why not.
Thank you for any insight!
XxMikeMasterxX said:
Hi all,
I've recently installed the overclocked kernel from squid and am having some trouble reaching the same benchmarks that he has hit. I am running stock MM with row 128 I/O and adreno-tz on the GPU. CPU is lionfish with min frequencies 800 on both clusters. I think squid is running CM13.
I consistently score between 680-740 single and 2680-2800 multi. Does this look about right for stock MM with the overlooked kernel?
Any help maximizing this would be greatly appreciated. I know these scores have (probably) very little to do with real-world use but if I can get more out of my device then why not.
Thank you for any insight!
EDIT: Moderator - could you please edit the title of the post and correct the typo? GeekBench, not Brnch. Thanks!
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Try with simple on demand in gpu.
I will try this app today.
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Try with simple on demand in gpu.
I will try this app today.
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Hey pal. Thanks for your feedback. Nice to see your response. I'll try it out as you suggest. I've been running a bunch of tests and it's looking like I hover around 740-50 single and 2700-50 multi. I've changed the configuration to default squid, so interactive governor and aggressive frequency settings. Needless to say the performance sure is snappy. Hahaha.
I'll likely revert to lionfish 800 on both clusters but this interactive snappiness is tempting...
Exactly 700 and 2700 with the oc kernel, stock brazil mm. Not even kidding. Although i sincerely doubt anything but a "native" extension can accurately measure a device performance, there is too much virtual machine and abstractions between hardware and software. Then again, this limitation applies to almost all apps, eg the normal usecase...
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Looks to be about mine as well. What's your setup?
I got similar scores with lionfish, 800 both clusters. OCed kernel.
AtomicStryker said:
Exactly 700 and 2700 with the oc kernel, stock brazil mm. Not even kidding. Although i sincerely doubt anything but a "native" extension can accurately measure a device performance, there is too much virtual machine and abstractions between hardware and software. Then again, this limitation applies to almost all apps, eg the normal usecase...
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What's your setup, Atomic?
Running
Temasek's CM 4.1
OC Kernel with interactive and row 256kbps
XxMikeMasterxX said:
Looks to be about mine as well. What's your setup?
I got similar scores with lionfish, 800 both clusters. OCed kernel.
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Interactive. Base frequencies on both clusters 200. Overcharged squid kernel.
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Running
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Yeah does it ever. Stock gives me max 770 single 2815 multi. I'm not sure if it's worth the hassle of ROM switching to get those extra points. Would I really see the performance difference?
Although I am tempted to try a new ROM. Would be fun...so long as I use Titanium Backup properly. Hahaha
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Yeah does it ever. Stock gives me max 770 single 2815 multi. I'm not sure if it's worth the hassle of ROM switching to get those extra points. Would I really see the performance difference?
Although I am tempted to try a new ROM. Would be fun...so long as I use Titanium Backup properly. Hahaha
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If you are happy with stock don't bother as you won't even notice those extra points in the benchmark. I changed roms for the extra features and cm themes and i was getting random lag until i changed to interactive and row, now is very smooth and zero lag
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If you are happy with stock don't bother as you won't even notice those extra points in the benchmark. I changed roms for the extra features and cm themes and i was getting random lag until i changed to interactive and row, now is very smooth and zero lag
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Interactive is a great governor yeah. Thanks for your response regarding the ROM. I hear that CM13 is still a little shaky on the X Play but maybe I'll try the next release just to compare. I'll try a full discharge from 100% with default squid's OC kernel values. If I can still get >7 hours SOT with that setup and snappy performance I'll be thrilled.
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Yeah does it ever. Stock gives me max 770 single 2815 multi. I'm not sure if it's worth the hassle of ROM switching to get those extra points. Would I really see the performance difference?
Although I am tempted to try a new ROM. Would be fun...so long as I use Titanium Backup properly. Hahaha
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This is miniscule difference. It doesn't create a great performance difference between stock and custom Roms. The benchmarks most of the time shows the raw power of the device but the optimisation of the software also is needed.
You can try custom Roms to get extra functionality but there are still bugs in them.
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This is miniscule difference. It doesn't create a great performance difference between stock and custom Roms. The benchmarks most of the time shows the raw power of the device but the optimisation of the software also is needed.
You can try custom Roms to get extra functionality but there are still bugs in them.
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Nicely said. Performance and stability are key for me. Battery life too. Haha. I just love the X Play for that battery. 5 hours SOT and 21%. So lovely.
I had carefully tuned CM13 to get the best performance out of this device, so it and derivatives will give better performance than the defaults in stock. You can see some of my configuration here: https://github.com/moto8916/android_device_motorola_lux/blob/cm-13.0/rootdir/etc/init.target.rc Beyond that, some higher level parts of the ROM are better optimized on custom ROMs than stock, so that also improves performance.
For reference, here is my last score with the new (OC) kernel:
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I had carefully tuned CM13 to get the best performance out of this device, so it and derivatives will give better performance than the defaults in stock. You can see some of my configuration here: https://github.com/moto8916/android_device_motorola_lux/blob/cm-13.0/rootdir/etc/init.target.rc Beyond that, some higher level parts of the ROM are better optimized on custom ROMs than stock, so that also improves performance.
For reference, here is my last score with the new (OC) kernel:
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Hey squid,
Looks interesting. I think CM13 is definitely worth a look. I think I'll try the next release. Thanks for explaining the customizations/optimizations you've done.
Frankly, i couldn't care less about some number a synthetic benchmark spits out. The number 1 consideration is how long the battery lasts, then (a long way off) how quickly "heavy" apps such as firefox launch. Last i read CM13 isn't as good as stock at conserving power.
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Frankly, i couldn't care less about some number a synthetic benchmark spits out. The number 1 consideration is how long the battery lasts, then (a long way off) how quickly "heavy" apps such as firefox launch. Last i read CM13 isn't as good as stock at conserving power.
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Battery life is quintessential for me, too. I was hoping to strike a balance between performance and battery (hence the Optimal Setup thread) and am still trying to discern what the best setup is to meet my requirements.
I'd like to try a custom ROM at some point, but that's my curiosity more than anything.
Battery life on the X Play can't be beat! That's why I got it.
Moto x play is no slough, I just ran a test between my nexus 6 and MXP,
Most apps actually open faster on the moto x.
Scrolling through Web pages and g+ the nexus 6 is smoother
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Moto x play is no slough, I just ran a test between my nexus 6 and MXP,
Most apps actually open faster on the moto x.
Scrolling through Web pages and g+ the nexus 6 is smoother
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Yep. I'd expect that. Still though - if properly customized this phone can really fly.
Hello everyone!
I was asked by several members to make a guide which has a goal of extending the battery life of our beloved phone.
If you seek a more detailed and more specific guide for battery life,check out the thread by nero curin
So,without further ado...
The apps I use are Ex Kernel Manager and L Speed,therefore the first thing to do is to,of course,get your hands on those two apps!
Here is the setup I use,shown on screenshots(who would want to bother reading tons of things,or even write them):
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The Marionette said:
Hello everyone!
I was asked by several members to make a guide which has a goal of extending the battery life of our beloved phone.
So,without further ado...
The apps I use are Ex Kernel Manager and L Speed,therefore the first thing to do is to,of course,get your hands on those two apps!
Here is the setup I use,shown on screenshots(who would want to bother reading tons of things,or even write them):
Credits to the creators of L Speed and Ex Kernel Manager. .-----.
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hi marionette
thanks for your hardwork
but in the kernel CM 12.1 RANDOM REBOOT FIX when i set the settings and kill the app and restart the app the cpu is going to 1497 mhz ??
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hi marionette
thanks for your hardwork
but in the kernel CM 12.1 RANDOM REBOOT FIX when i set the settings and kill the app and restart the app the cpu is going to 1497 mhz ??
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It isn't about the tweaks,that kernel has buggy frequencies which stay at max.
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It isn't about the tweaks,that kernel has buggy frequencies which stay at max.
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i know the problem it's with the kernel not tweks,which kernel did you suggest to doesn't have reboots... and tweak work
Alek Dev said:
i know the problem it's with the kernel not tweks,which kernel did you suggest to doesn't have reboots... and tweak work
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Well...
The only kernel which is working properly is the newest one.
But you can try taking a kernel from older cm builds,one of the kernels has to work with your variant.
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Well...
The only kernel which is working properly is the newest one.
But you can try taking a kernel from older cm builds,one of the kernels has to work with your variant.
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Its weird, I've installed the 4/3 build several different times, one time i only had to go back to stock because i screwed something up messing with permissions to get viper to work but on that particular flash i had working data and only one sim icon for a few days. Today when getting sick of stock and trying to go back to that 4/3 build all of a sudden i got 2 sim icons and wonky data. Ive tried to reflash a few times thinking it'd fix but nope. Wonder why its so random.
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The Marionette said:
Hello everyone!
I was asked by several members to make a guide which has a goal of extending the battery life of our beloved phone.
So,without further ado...
The apps I use are Ex Kernel Manager and L Speed,therefore the first thing to do is to,of course,get your hands on those two apps!
Here is the setup I use,shown on screenshots(who would want to bother reading tons of things,or even write them):
Credits to the creators of L Speed and Ex Kernel Manager. .-----.
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Thanks for this.....works great. 3 days in and no problems, and definite improvement. I am on fixed income, but have had ROM Toolbox Pro, and was able to use performance settings to make adjustments without buying another app. Very much appreciated! :good: (60450, stock rooted, Xposed, Adaway, removed Seeder in case of conflicts, PIA VPN)
dongarritas said:
Thanks for this.....works great. 3 days in and no problems, and definite improvement. I am on fixed income, but have had ROM Toolbox Pro, and was able to use performance settings to make adjustments without buying another app. Very much appreciated! :good:
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Yeah,I discovered that Kernel Auditor can be used to shut down several CPUs.
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Yeah,I discovered that Kernel Auditor can be used to shut down several CPUs.
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I've used Kernel Adiutor a few times, but I could never get the settings to stay put. The Big cpu always managed to change my min and max settings whenever it felt like it. I just went on ahead and bought ex kernel manager just so I wouldn't have to pull my hair out using the previous program.
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I've used Kernel Adiutor a few times, but I could never get the settings to stay put. The Big cpu always managed to change my min and max settings whenever it felt like it. I just went on ahead and bought ex kernel manager just so I wouldn't have to pull my hair out using the previous program.
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Ahhhhh.
You can use Kernel Auditor to shut down CPUs. With it,only 2 CPUs of each cluster are online(2 at max-1300 and min-800,other two at max-900 and min-800.
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Ahhhhh.
You can use Kernel Auditor to shut down CPUs. With it,only 2 CPUs of each cluster are online(2 at max-1300 and min-800,other two at max-900 and min-800.
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Kernal audiutor usually seems better then ex but I've had Adiutor change things back to stock, so I always save a profile.
I'm pretty happy with the way the darkness governor handles things for big cpu. (for mine)
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Ahhhhh.
You can use Kernel Auditor to shut down CPUs. With it,only 2 CPUs of each cluster are online(2 at max-1300 and min-800,other two at max-900 and min-800.
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Yeah I've done that a few times but the program itself I didn't really enjoy using in conjunction with lspeed also. I'd rather use whatever the devs and builders use to ensure I get the best out of each build.
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Well I've had the same issues on this build using the ex kernel manager and the exact settings you listed. The kernel decides to boost up to max whenever it feels like it and set on boot doesn't change anything. I'm getting annoyed with this phone. It's like I got a cursed one that just doesn't feel like being tweaked. I don't know what else to do at this point. I'm not getting any better battery life than before. Honestly I think it actually got worse. I think I'm just gonna go back to stock and not mess. With this thing anymore. I'm about to throw it out the second story window of my house.
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Well I've had the same issues on this build using the ex kernel manager and the exact settings you listed. The kernel decides to boost up to max whenever it feels like it and set on boot doesn't change anything. I'm getting annoyed with this phone. It's like I got a cursed one that just doesn't feel like being tweaked. I don't know what else to do at this point. I'm not getting any better battery life than before. Honestly I think it actually got worse. I think I'm just gonna go back to stock and not mess. With this thing anymore. I'm about to throw it out the second story window of my house.
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Yea they boost what to max because of mpdecision (as I'm told) which is supposed to be like touch boost, but trust me I feel your pain because it's all the same problems for me to, I average 2 an ½ consistently no matter what I do. However, If you can get 3 hours + I don't think it's so bad, that's pretty average for most phones I've had. But big cores Always run the battery down for me, and if they don't, the little cores do because they stay high frequency all the time making up for the big ones. It's like it honestly does have a mind of its own.
The best battery life I got so far is just over 3 hours, and I always use the OC Kernel because most others reboot for me or run more erratically, so if you haven't tried the OC yet I'd say give it a shot before you ditch back to stock.
Tho news with marshmallow on the way it might be worth waiting for on stock...
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Yea they boost what to max because of mpdecision (as I'm told) which is supposed to be like touch boost, but trust me I feel your pain because it's all the same problems for me to, I average 2 an ½ consistently no matter what I do. However, If you can get 3 hours + I don't think it's so bad, that's pretty average for most phones I've had. But big cores Always run the battery down for me, and if they don't, the little cores do because they stay high frequency all the time making up for the big ones. It's like it honestly does have a mind of its own.
The best battery life I got so far is just over 3 hours, and I always use the OC Kernel because most others reboot for me or run more erratically, so if you haven't tried the OC yet I'd say give it a shot before you ditch back to stock.
Tho news with marshmallow on the way it might be worth waiting for on stock...
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Yeh the news about getting MM was awesome. I average about the same screen on time as you do, around 2.5 hours. The only rom I didn't have issues with battery wise was the i806 oc build from unjustified, but because it hasn't been updated I started having boot issues. I think I'm gonna see about going back to a previous 12.1 marionette build I was using that gave me around 4-5 hours screen on time or just revert to stock rom with underclock kernel.
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Yeh the news about getting MM was awesome. I average about the same screen on time as you do, around 2.5 hours. The only rom I didn't have issues with battery wise was the i806 oc build from unjustified, but because it hasn't been updated I started having boot issues. I think I'm gonna see about going back to a previous 12.1 marionette build I was using that gave me around 4-5 hours screen on time or just revert to stock rom with underclock kernel.
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I wanted to do stock with underclock for battery life specifically but underclock reboots for me :/ I know that has to be the best chance for battery life with it
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I wanted to do stock with underclock for battery life specifically but underclock reboots for me :/ I know that has to be the best chance for battery life with it
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I just did that and had the same experience. Reboots for days. I guess when we finally get MM more debs will pop up and support for the phone will rise again. Right now it seems development has stopped and we are relying on build after build. If I was smart enough I'd give development a shot.
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I just did that and had the same experience. Reboots for days. I guess when we finally get MM more debs will pop up and support for the phone will rise again. Right now it seems development has stopped and we are relying on build after build. If I was smart enough I'd give development a shot.
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Your variant should be nearly the same as mine, just locked to a carrier and mine isn't, so more then likely they have the same likes and dislikes when it come to kernels. And yea hopefully mm will spin things up again.
I've been considering attempting to learn some stuff to help with development myself, I have a tiny bit of experience with stuff but not a lot, but everyone has to start someone, it's either you can learn it or you can't...
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