Fudge! H8 Apple!
http://gizmodo.com/5937762/samsung-vs-apple-apple-winning-big-updating
BOYCOTT APPLE PRODUCTS!
But seriously, if something happens to Samsung, it will be a huge blow to Android. Seeing the popularity of the Galaxy series. In Singapore, the other non-Apple manufacturer that is popular among everyone is Samsung. Motorola is like nonexistent over here. Hardly anyone has one.
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Glad to see this tying up the courts while rapists and molesters await trial. Good job judicial system.
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Samsung will appeal. And hopefully when they do, they'll get proper justice.
At the very least, their tablets not infringing says that Apple does not own the rectangle.
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Samsung will appeal. And hopefully when they do, they'll get proper justice.
At the very least, their tablets not infringing says that Apple does not own the rectangle.
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I mean, if Apple did gobble up the patents on all that crap, then there really isn't much Samsung can do. As stupid as it is though, because it really is stupid.
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Just wait for the out come of apple v Google. Google now own the patents for most of apples wireless communication and video playback.
This is almost as entertaining as the trash talk on american wrestling.
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Google vs Apple live action full feature... NAO!,
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Samsung is In an impossible position to ever win in the United States...
So yes. Hopefully Google can take over
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More surprisingly the jury found Samsung guilty of infringing Apple's U.S. Design Patent No. D618,677 and D593,087, which Apple's attorney's argued in testimony give it exclusive rights to produce rectangular smartphones with rounded edges.
Does that mean every smartphone will be banned?? I like my sgs3 and not sure how I'd feel about a sgs4 that was a square with sharp edges..
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Samsung is In an impossible position to ever win in the United States...
So yes. Hopefully Google can take over
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More surprisingly the jury found Samsung guilty of infringing Apple's U.S. Design Patent No. D618,677 and D593,087, which Apple's attorney's argued in testimony give it exclusive rights to produce rectangular smartphones with rounded edges.
Does that mean every smartphone will be banned?? I like my sgs3 and not sure how I'd feel about a sgs4 that was a square with sharp edges..
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The Galaxy S3 isn't exactly a rectangle (it looks more like a pebble), so I think you're safe and if the GS4 does have sharp edges, I imagine it would look like the Sony Xperia Ion or the Nokia Lumia 900...
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Samsung is In an impossible position to ever win in the United States...
So yes. Hopefully Google can take over
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More surprisingly the jury found Samsung guilty of infringing Apple's U.S. Design Patent No. D618,677 and D593,087, which Apple's attorney's argued in testimony give it exclusive rights to produce rectangular smartphones with rounded edges.
Does that mean every smartphone will be banned?? I like my sgs3 and not sure how I'd feel about a sgs4 that was a square with sharp edges..
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I have a feeling that Samsung is a S.Korean company, so they are fighting a loosing battle since day one.
*Sigh* Oh the Clone Wars, ummm i mean Patent Wars.
Oh well that's alright, wait for Googorola vs Apple. I'm looking forward to that Cage Match.
Whether it's the 80's/90's or today, Apple is always in the middle of this type of Drama. Sure they can innovative, but they also have the knack for pissing even more people off. What's old is new again with them...
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This verdict (and possible future verdicts against Google) isn't the doom and gloom the media is making it out to be. Worst case scenario is slightly more expensive Android devices because Apple will be forced to license under FRAND. Still sucks though.
Yet another reason why I am never ever buying another Apple product. They have patents over industry standards. Samsung is inevitably using those functionalities - similar to how Apple put their own proprietary skin over Xerox's graphical user interface.
Does anyone know what patents were prove to have been infringing? The radio said they were stupid I.e 4 icons on bottom of home screen and other things that have already been changed in newer versions, of touchwiz and ICS?
Dude on radio went on to say this will have aboutly no affect on Android or samsung later?
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Does anyone know what patents were prove to have been infringing? The radio said they were stupid I.e 4 icons on bottom of home screen and other things that have already been changed in newer versions, of touchwiz and ICS?
Dude on radio went on to say this will have aboutly no affect on Android or samsung later?
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Also things such as pinch-zoom and double-tap to zoom. Also the 'bounce' animation.
The ridiculous point is that there is plenty of prior art for most of these touch interface aspects dating back decades before Apple's patents. However, Apple was allowed to patent them relating to capacitive screens only.
The USPTO really are a bunch of imbeciles for awarding some of those patents in the first place. Nothing new there.
My personal hope is with the fact Mr. Jobbs is out forever and for good.
Soon Crapple Ltd. will become only the patent troll and not an R&D pusher.
We should expect their inevetable decline and demise in few years.
This was actually the expected outcome. You think that American juries deciding between finding an American or South Korean company guilty in an American court would go against said American company?
Let's narrow it down even more. Silicon Valley juries in a Silicon Valley court deciding that a Silicon Valley company is guilty? No chance. Just like the South Korean court decided both was guilty, but Apple more than Samsung.
Things like this should be decided in a more neutral zone, methinks. Europe comes to mind, since the verdicts of courts there clearly show no obvious bias at all. Everyone gets to win some and lose some. That should get them talking of licensing rather than litigating.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zd-dqUuvLk4
^ I saw this in another thread, and IMO it's definitely worth watching.
Sure most of it is common sense, but what if the jury watched this video before they made their decision?...
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actually the whole case seens stupid to me.i do not know any other company which acts stupid as apple about its patents.and many patents seem to be quite stupid.
shall we have round screens now because apple says so?no because apple has a patent for this probably too
europe seems to be a better place for a real decision.
A good read that somewhat confirms my earlier assumptions.
And effects of the verdict doesn't seem to be in Apple's best interest, what with Apple basically admitting that Samsung is the same as Apple...
Related
http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/24/apple-galaxy-tab-7-7-eu-injunction/
Litigation beats innovation any day, well done Stevecorp.
I am so happy i have my 7.7 already. Actually thinking about buying 3g one to use as a business phone.. Might buy it now while i have the chance..
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Good thing we got ICS before this happened...
German Apple lawyers are really good.
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Patent trolls nothing more, I'm sure the 7.7 really put a dent into apple's sales, as did the rest of the galaxy tab lineup, oh wait.
crazy thought, is apple wanting this ban to protect the mini ipad when it goes on sale?
Oh well, got my 7.7 months ago. Now Samsung just need to come out with 7.7 ver 2 which they just need to tweak the design.
A stupid patent that patent a generic rectangular black tablet with rounded corners. Thought I saw that years ago on LCD photo frames. And they spent months if not a year on this in court. Seriously Apple, time to move on and actually innovate.
and exactly such things are the reason for me to NOT buy products from apple!!! never!!!
although i have to admit that they are usually well designed... but their childishness really
piss me on!
After buying Apple for 5 years I am getting annoyed with this nonsense.
I have an iPad 2 and an Tab 7.7 and they are so different its a joke.
No iPhone 5 for me; but an S3 (when the price drops a little )
Get a grip Apple.
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crazy thought, is apple wanting this ban to protect the mini ipad when it goes on sale?
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I would say so.
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One question i have is, why are they only goings against Samsung, there are other tab makers our there but they dont seem to bother them.
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One question i have is, why are they only goings against Samsung, there are other tab makers our there but they dont seem to bother them.
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guess the samsung tabs are the only one's that are selling in any high number?
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One question i have is, why are they only goings against Samsung, there are other tab makers our there but they dont seem to bother them.
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Sammy is the only threat to apple.
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Pretty lame. All these lawsuits are bad for consumer choice and they are based on such trivial broad patents.
Funny that this **** is only passing in Germany.
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Well, lets put a bit of spin on this. THIS is the device Apple were worried about.
Hopefully gives Samsung reason to make a 7.7 mkII with a few tweaks just to rub their noses in it.
Maybe a 7.7 Note.
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Patent trolls nothing more, I'm sure the 7.7 really put a dent into apple's sales, as did the rest of the galaxy tab lineup, oh wait.
crazy thought, is apple wanting this ban to protect the mini ipad when it goes on sale?
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Apple certainly 'innovate' - I don't think anyone has tried patent trolling a product that's already been available a year before your own device comes out, before. Way to go Apple, you've done what was previously considered impossible.
I guess this is what happens when you take a litigation-crazy company and combine it with a cash pile of billions of dollars.
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Pretty lame. All these lawsuits are bad for consumer choice and they are based on such trivial broad patents.
Funny that this **** is only passing in Germany.
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I suspect that Germany has a more lax definition of what constitutes copyright infringement than most other EU countries.
There were 4:3 aspect ratio tablets (Windows) before the iPad -- even had IPS screens. Motion Computing should sue Apple for billions.
The automakers should be suing each other because every car has four tires/tyres. :silly:
After all this Crap I think Apples Pooped in its OWN NEST...
like what another member said in another thread, its Apple's way of telling people in EU to wait for their iPad Mini and to hold off from buying the competitions products
let it be...it is just a beginning of Apple's end.....not able to innovate = not able to compete soon
we know it, Apple knows it, just customers do not know it.....but that is why Apple is so scared of innovations
just say everywhere what iRotten Apple is doing and thats all we can do now
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There were 4:3 aspect ratio tablets (Windows) before the iPad -- even had IPS screens. Motion Computing should sue Apple for billions.
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I agree. Also there were tablet computers like the iPad in 1984's movie "2010: The Year We Make Contact". Director Peter Hyams should sue the hell out of apple for copying that design!
This whole sueing thing is getting really ridiculous. Shame on apple for beeing not only childish, but also a bad loser.
Didn't feel this needed a new thread but noticed this from the sammie vs apple trial on the verge
http://www.theverge.com/2012/7/30/3205118/samsung-p10-11-8-inch-retina-tablet
Why is the 7.7 crossed out with "high risk for volume"
unfortunately I can't seem to find the documents from where this slide came from.
There is at least a possibility that the patent case will be decided against Samsung, so that products that are similar to the iphone, as decided by a judge who seems receptive to Apple arguments, may be removed from the market by Apple.
http://www.informationweek.com/hardware/handheld/samsung-prospects-dim-vs-apple-what-next/240005331
What do you think that would mean both for the Epic and for future Android phones?
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There is at least a possibility that the patent case will be decided against Samsung, so that products that are similar to the iphone, as decided by a judge who seems receptive to Apple arguments, may be removed from the market by Apple.
http://www.informationweek.com/hardware/handheld/samsung-prospects-dim-vs-apple-what-next/240005331
What do you think that would mean both for the Epic and for future Android phones?
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Not a damn thing
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What do you think that would mean both for the Epic and for future Android phones?
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First, a lot of Samsung fans will not switch to Apple, so Apple's profits won't benefit.
Second, if the impact is large enough, Samsung could face financial troubles, which will be passed on to the consumers, at least to some degree.
As a possible third result, Apple will realize that they are a part of that consumer base, when the iPhone components produced by Samsung suddenly become more expensive
This would probably cause iPhone prices to increase, ultimately resulting in Apple screwing themselves
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Not a damn thing
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This
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Apple can turn into a squirrel and come get deez nutz
So far the only impact it had was telling me that Epic 4g was the best selling postpaid samsung android phone of all time
Other then that, at worst Samsung is going to receive a fine. I don't think the courts plan to do any form of mass ban due to disruptions it might cause economically.
For one Apple has yet to actually prove damages.
I should clarify, my thoughts are what I consider to be the worst case scenario - the point was that, at worst, Apple will be hurting themselves more than Samsung or end users, because I don't know anyone that has ever said, "Well, they won that frivolous lawsuit, so their product must be better, right?"
Even if Apple succeeded in tanking every Android manufacturer (which will never happen, but if they did...), too many Android fans are also Apple haters - we'd go back to feature phones or older before we cross over to the iDark Side
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I have a feeling Samsung is going to lose this case. It looks like the judge is bias she scolds Sammy way more than apple!
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I have a feeling Samsung is going to lose this case. It looks like the judge is bias she scolds Sammy way more than apple!
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Isn't this a jury trial? It is too early to tell because samsung has not had a chance to present their defense.
Edit:
Samsung just won a big win,
http://www.engadget.com/2012/08/13/...al-galaxy-s-and-s-ii-galaxy-ace-from-lawsuit/
By excluding these, Apple has to redo their reference material that uses the international SGS models. This makes proving trade dress violation much harder for Apple.
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I have a feeling Samsung is going to lose this case. It looks like the judge is bias she scolds Sammy way more than apple!
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I heard apple makes Judge Koh's dildo.
According to USA Today, Samsung lost the vast majority of the substantial patent violation issues in the CA suit with damages of over $1B awarded to Crapple.
Unfortunately, it looks like Samsung is in pretty deep poo just about now. It won't affect OG Epic users, as we are using EOL hardware. But for those of us considering upgrades it might have some impact. I'm thinking long and hard about buying an SGS3 or any other Sammy product right now. They are going to be a mess for at least a year while all of this patent stuff gets worked out.
Anyone else have thoughts on what kind of impact this might have?
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According to USA Today, Samsung lost the vast majority of the substantial patent violation issues in the CA suit with damages of over $1B awarded to Crapple.
Unfortunately, it looks like Samsung is in pretty deep poo just about now. It won't affect OG Epic users, as we are using EOL hardware. But for those of us considering upgrades it might have some impact. I'm thinking long and hard about buying an SGS3 or any other Sammy product right now. They are going to be a mess for at least a year while all of this patent stuff gets worked out.
Anyone else have thoughts on what kind of impact this might have?
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I just want to get a Samsung Captive Glide, switch to Net10/Straight Talk, and call it a day. I have no idea what this means as far as downloading or updating apps or updating the system specs or whatever. But that's all I want until the NEXT powerful Android with a keyboard comes out.
Right now I just have the Epic 4G, and when I get $500 I'll get the Captivate Glide. I hope by then nothing hinky happens when I try to activate then unlock it.
The only effect it will have will be Apple's attempt to go after companies like Motorola & HTC. Pinch-to-Zoom is on every android device, I think and they will most likely use this victory to add fuel to their nuke android campaign.
There will be a lot of change to the android software and a lot of change android phone designs that are rectangular.
And last F*** Apple.
As bad as this could be for Samsung, look at it this way, they could come up with something more innovative than apple ever will. Maybe Samsung will be the first manufacturer to use mini-projectors in mobile devices and follow through with those plans. (And patent designs before release)
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As bad as this could be for Samsung, look at it this way, they could come up with something more innovative than apple ever will. Maybe Samsung will be the first manufacturer to use mini-projectors in mobile devices and follow through with those plans. (And patent designs before release)
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Sammy already has a phone with a mini projector in the UK called Samsung Galaxy Beam http://m.techradar.com/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/samsung-galaxy-beam-1090224/review
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Sammy already has a phone with a mini projector in the UK called Samsung Galaxy Beam http://m.techradar.com/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/samsung-galaxy-beam-1090224/review
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Would ya look at that. Lol
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Well Samsung has been attacking apple for a while on purpose. Look at the adapter module for their chargers looks just like the iPhone Version. And the phone icon looks just like the iOS version. That's about it.No reason to sue its all about advancing technology. I think apple is just trying to get rid of competition. I love Samsung, I love iOS. But I think I'm loosing respect for apple as $1B is a slap in the face. Instead of tearing a company down by suing them. Apple could just make a phone 10X better and Then Samsung would do the same. It would be a continuous loop. That's competition. OH AND APPLE SAMSUUNG PHONES LOOK NOTHINHG LIKE YOUR SMALL 3.5" SCREEN DESIGN.
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Well Samsung has been attacking apple for a while on purpose. Look at the adapter module for their chargers looks just like the iPhone Version. And the phone icon looks just like the iOS version. That's about it.No reason to sue its all about advancing technology. I think apple is just trying to get rid of competition. I love Samsung, I love iOS. But I think I'm loosing respect for apple as $1B is a slap in the face. Instead of tearing a company down by suing them. Apple could just make a phone 10X better and Then Samsung would do the same. It would be a continuous loop. That's competition. OH AND APPLE SAMSUUNG PHONES LOOK NOTHINHG LIKE YOUR SMALL 3.5" SCREEN DESIGN.
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How much different can a phone icon look and still be recognized as a phone icon? Was apple the first company ever to make something rectangular with rounded edges? Were they the first to make a user interface with squares? How can they patent this stuff and sue over it? Its the most generic stuff. Ridiculous. And they sued their largest partner, who makes about 90% of the components in the iPhone/iPad. Apple seems to be done innovating. They take features from Android and then try to make them sound revolutionary. Then, they sue the companies actually innovating and make their products delayed or taken off shelves. The iPhone 1 was revolutionary and really made the smartphone market the way it is today (everyone has one, not just geeks or business people). But they haven't done anything since then. They've made the camera better, screen a bit better, and changed processor.
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Next thing we know they'll add something to the iPhone like a 4 inch screen and an LTE radio and sue over that
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Crapple is just scared because theyre riding this iphone garbage train as long as they can. Samsung will surely slam a future product in their faces. Lets face it, without steve jobs, the innovation is over for them.
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Samsung made 3.45 Billion in a quarter of 2012. Do you really think they can't handle a 1 billion dollar advertisement? This didn't kill them.
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Samsung made 3.45 Billion in a quarter of 2012. Do you really think they can't handle a 1 billion dollar advertisement? This didn't kill them.
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It seems to have pissed off alot of folks who used to like Apple and their stale, monotonous product line. I have three cohorts who converted to Android and Windows phones as a result of this lawsuit crap. And I can't wait till they announce the iPhone 5 and everyone sees what a big "nothing" it is. The iSheep are gonna look like kids who wake up Christmas morning to find a stocking full of coal...
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And I can't wait till they announce the iPhone 5 and everyone sees what a big "nothing" it is. The iSheep are gonna look like kids who wake up Christmas morning to find a stocking full of coal...
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Dont be silly. The iSheeple will look at that piece of coal and harp on how shiny a diamond they have. ROFL!
While it sucks they did lose, I do hope it doesn't result in a takedown of major phones. Samsung has been releasing some interesting stuff, and I really do want to hold out on getting a new one 'till they come out with a new slider. I can't imagine what I'd choose if Samsung's development was hindered because of this stupid ordeal.
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dont be silly. The isheeple will look at that piece of coal and harp on how shiny a diamond they have. Rofl!
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lolz! This ^^^
Well, their piece of coal is worth a diamond so...
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Recent news! Google strikes back!
Modoru said:
Recent news! Google strikes back!
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Google-rola
LOL.
What does the future hold for dear Sammy? Only time will tell i guess.
Apple have won there patent suit against samsung which is due to pay out $1.05 billion.
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What does this means for android?
A sad day in tech
A monopoly for apple in US?
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Apple have won there patent suit against samsung which is due to pay out $1.05 billion.
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A sad day in tech
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I would think it means almost nothing for android. As far as for Samsung it probably just means more money spent on appeals in court.
JMHO
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I'm trying to figure out if this means licensing deals will be worked out now or if features will be stripped from products.
It would kind of suck if zooming on photos and multi-touch is now removed. Combine that with the universal search and I would think we'd all have grounds to get our money back for products not being what we paid for at the time of purchase. Hmmmm.
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I'm trying to figure out if this means licensing deals will be worked out now or if features will be stripped from products.
It would kind of suck if zooming on photos and multi-touch is now removed. Combine that with the universal search and I would think we'd all have grounds to get our money back for products not being what we paid for at the time of purchase. Hmmmm.
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Take comfort in the fact that google wont let those features go without a fight
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I'm trying to figure out if this means licensing deals will be worked out now or if features will be stripped from products.
It would kind of suck if zooming on photos and multi-touch is now removed. Combine that with the universal search and I would think we'd all have grounds to get our money back for products not being what we paid for at the time of purchase. Hmmmm.
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Current devices will continue to have that functionality. They won't remove it from your product
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Hopefully Samsung wins on Appeal...
Apple suing to stifle competition is why I looked at Android.
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I think now one thing we can do is go to apple store if we encounter any issues with Galaxy Tab and Galaxy S phones and ask them to fix the damn issue. Let's see if they say that it's not an iPhone or ipad, tell them their bosses at Cupertino think otherwise
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I think now one thing we can do is go to apple store if we encounter any issues with Galaxy Tab and Galaxy S phones and ask them to fix the damn issue. Let's see if they say that it's not an iPhone or ipad, tell them their bosses at Cupertino think otherwise
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As ridiculous as that seems, I'd think it a good laugh if I saw a dude rock up in an apple store demanding help since the "stolen copied Apple-tech" has a problem.
I'm just glad most of these ridiculous patent wars are in the US only and the rest of us can still enjoy imports without too much hassle.
As far as the patents go, Apple would probably patent the fact that their devices use a battery if they could, its stifling competition to the detriment of all consumers. Competition is healthy and stimulates innovation
Thought this was funny
http://mobile.theverge.com/2012/8/2...dollar-lawsuit-it-is-all-good-advertising-for
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Thought this was funny
http://mobile.theverge.com/2012/8/2...dollar-lawsuit-it-is-all-good-advertising-for
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As someone who values an iOS device over Android I guess I'm going to have the unpopular opinion here. But Samsung released a document that told it's employees how they needed to copy the iPhone. I mean come on. Are people that fanboyish that they're just going to ignore this huge piece of evidence? It's literally a guide on how to best copy the iPhone. As someone who's used an iPhone since they came out, used a Galaxy S, Motorola XT860, Galaxy Tab, Galaxy Tab 10.1, HP TouchPad, HTC One S, and currently using a Galaxy S 3 until the new iPhone comes out, I can easily say that I can see how they would think they're copying features.
Looks like I'm not the only one that sees clear violation: http://www.theverge.com/2012/8/25/3267843/apple-vs-samsung-juror-speaks
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Every phone manufacturer does an extensive study on their competitors' products.
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Haha there are those rose coloured Android goggles. I've never seen a company break a product down and say "we need to copy these features" like Samsung did.
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Haha there are those rose coloured Android goggles. I've never seen a company break a product down and say "we need to copy these features" like Samsung did.
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Microsoft with Windows, also based on Apple designs. The problem is not the copying of designs (yes its unoriginal, its bad karma, we know) but instead the fact that Apple was able to patent such basic design ideas like a rectangular screen with rounded edges. That technically makes all touchscreen devices and laptop computers infringing devices. The patent office should not have allowed the patents to get approved in the first place. Even though App,e patented the idea, it doesn't mean they were the first to think of it.
Who should hold IP over an idea - the person or persons who thought of it first, or those who filled out the paperwork? Hell, even calculus was thought up by two people at the same time, without knowledge of the other.
Patents like this (if exercised when the devices first started appearing) can only inhibit technological advancement, as it removes competition. Competition fosters growth.
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Microsoft with Windows, also based on Apple designs. The problem is not the copying of designs (yes its unoriginal, its bad karma, we know) but instead the fact that Apple was able to patent such basic design ideas like a rectangular screen with rounded edges. That technically makes all touchscreen devices and laptop computers infringing devices. The patent office should not have allowed the patents to get approved in the first place. Even though App,e patented the idea, it doesn't mean they were the first to think of it.
Who should hold IP over an idea - the person or persons who thought of it first, or those who filled out the paperwork? Hell, even calculus was thought up by two people at the same time, without knowledge of the other.
Patents like this (if exercised when the devices first started appearing) can only inhibit technological advancement, as it removes competition. Competition fosters growth.
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Indeed! At to put perspective further, Apple even copied (Xerox) to get where they are. The game is not "who copied who", but rather who gets the patent first.
Apple is playing a dangerous game of "patenting" and sueing everyone. Making the competition unable to input basic idea in their products, I honeslty think it's a matter of time before Apple Gets sued by everyone they've copied over the years, and they copied a lot of people!
L33t Masta said:
As someone who values an iOS device over Android I guess I'm going to have the unpopular opinion here. But Samsung released a document that told it's employees how they needed to copy the iPhone. I mean come on. Are people that fanboyish that they're just going to ignore this huge piece of evidence? It's literally a guide on how to best copy the iPhone. As someone who's used an iPhone since they came out, used a Galaxy S, Motorola XT860, Galaxy Tab, Galaxy Tab 10.1, HP TouchPad, HTC One S, and currently using a Galaxy S 3 until the new iPhone comes out, I can easily say that I can see how they would think they're copying features.
Looks like I'm not the only one that sees clear violation: http://www.theverge.com/2012/8/25/3267843/apple-vs-samsung-juror-speaks
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Copying isn't the real issue, it's the patent office. For example one of the design patents Apple was granted was for a rectangle with rounded corners. I think that anyone that's used a tray in a cafeteria knows that this is a silly patent. Yet Samsung had to defend this in court.
The patent office has publicly stated that they are under budget and overwhelmed with patent applications and that they do little research on prior art these days. They have stated that the will grant patents and let the courts sort it out. This is their way of sending a political message to Washington for more money. What results are judgements like we saw last Friday.
I believe that Samsung took a calculated risk when they copied Apple's alleged patents. They were a distant second place in the phone market behind Apple and saw what was happening to RIM and Nokia. Copying Apple not only thrust Samsung into first place, by a wide margin, it netted them $6 billion. That's a good leverage on the $1B judgement.
In any event, Samsung is now the number one phone maker an the threat of these kinds of lawsuits in the future are minimal since the Samsung products are now superior and we find Apple copying Android.
Gotta wonder about the jury.
Does anyone buying a Samsung tab REALLY think they're buying an iPad?
I'm no Apple basher. Even though I've never used any of their products (other than an Airport Express for my WAP), I'm sure they make great products.
But mistaking a Samsung, or any other, device for an Apple device?
Really?
Puuuuuuuleeeeeese!
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Gotta wonder about the jury.
Does anyone buying a Samsung tab REALLY think they're buying an iPad?
I'm no Apple basher. Even though I've never used any of their products (other than an Airport Express for my WAP), I'm sure they make great products.
But mistaking a Samsung, or any other, device for an Apple device?
Really?
Puuuuuuuleeeeeese!
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Yes, the awards by the jury presumed EVERY Samsung phone purchased was a lost sale for Apple. My understanding is that this decision alone is grounds for appeal.
Must Watch...!!!
This was extracted from TED talks.
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But mistaking a Samsung, or any other, device for an Apple device?
Really?
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I've been saying this along, does Apple think its customer base is not smart enough to differentiate between Apple and Samsung products? "Oh NOOOOs I just bought a Samsung when I thought I was getting the iPhone!" The entire design patent is a joke, next lawsuit is against Applebees for using similar name and rectangle tables with rounded edges!
I'm not a fanboi, I just hate stupidity!
Great news for Samsung and im sure all android devices
Apples overscroll patents have been ruled invalid by US Patent Office
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-20040549
PS sorry if its in the wrong forum
wrong forum......good news :thumbup:
Does this mean the bounce scroll can make a return?
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Yes I pretty su're that's what it means. Although you can be certain apple will typically appeal
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Hmm a biased jury foreman, the one that took notes on his new iPad he just got before he walked in?
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I think it's very telling that in almost every case around the world Apple have lost, and it's only in California have they won.
I hope it would mean a change in policy from the USPO but I doubt it.
I don't think USP bureau changed their minds because of "some" Korean company. Most likely, Google start to appeal for some patents wrongly issued to Apple. Hope Apple will loose more such wrong patents. Especially absurd one like "Square with rounded corners design" 8-|
Actually, i'm sick of this overscroll glow effect. Hope rubberband overscroll will come back as it was in early GB ROMs in SGS2.