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Hi everyone !
My name's Renan and I've just bought a Nexus S. Coming from a HTC Desire, it's just marvellous !
I like development and Android and I created a ROM called Amethyst for the HTC Desire. Now I have a Nexus S, and I'd like to create a ROM for this phone because it is just very powerful !
But as the Nexus S has a stock Android version, I'd like to create a ROM with a custom and nice UI (~ like MIUI).
If you're a developer, a graphist, or someone who has ideas or is interested in this project, just send me a PM
Have a nice evening, guys
Renan.
Really looking forward to see what you come up with mate! Best luck!
I'd be interested in this - I must say I haven't tried developing for the Android yet but I have developed things for PC and have worked with Linux for many years so should be quite easy to pick up! PM me if you like.
sounds good. i can design images (create, modify, etc) pm me with details. cheers..
Welcome to Nexus S, i also love this phone and i hope you come up with something amazing. Seems that the devs start rollling in. They just yesterday or the day before released Nexus S in some of the major contries of Europe. Hope the Nexus S will come alive now
I've had ideas for my own custom ROM. So, if I have the time, I would like to help out. I will try to write up a list of all my ideas later. One of the big ones is that CM requires a custom kernel than ROMs based off stock. They leave something out, so this ROM should do things right from the start and make sure that kernels built for stock, will run. That will make it easier for users to pick their own kernel and kernel Devs would not need to do anything different to make their kernels work with it.
Cheers.
And make me your non-contributing trainee I wanna learn stuff. Just don't know where to start. I m J2EE developer, hardly have to peep outside enterprise web applications
Really glad to see ROM Dev's joining this forum - soon we can have many ROM choices like Galaxy S or Vibrant.
I'm very good with graphic designing (strictly no coding or scripting), let me know if you need my help.
I have been debating making a rom. I used to dev for my captivate, n1, and hero. I think I may start with the ns soon .
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Since you tried to make amethyst on desire a stockish rom, why don't you try to run sense on the nexus s
python08 said:
Hi everyone !
My name's Renan and I've just bought a Nexus S. Coming from a HTC Desire, it's just marvellous !
I like development and Android and I created a ROM called Amethyst for the HTC Desire. Now I have a Nexus S, and I'd like to create a ROM for this phone because it is just very powerful !
But as the Nexus S has a stock Android version, I'd like to create a ROM with a custom and nice UI (~ like MIUI).
If you're a developer, a graphist, or someone who has ideas or is interested in this project, just send me a PM
Have a nice evening, guys
Renan.
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Finally someone who has similar aims to a custom rom like me (MIUI scope) I have loads of ideas, some dev skills and some graphics too, and would love to collaborate. Ill send through a PM soon, I made some mockups ages ago for some of the ideas, so you can get an idea of where I'm coming from.
Welcome and enjoy your Nexus S too!
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Unfortunately we take a BIG hit by not being able to have SENSE roms. We have have about 1/3 less roms due to that. The Nexus One is able to get everything, we cant, and it shows. It harder for all these great DEVs to come up with something cool.
I'm surprised we haven't seen touchwiz on here yet
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nicknowsky said:
Unfortunately we take a BIG hit by not being able to have SENSE roms. We have have about 1/3 less roms due to that. The Nexus One is able to get everything, we cant, and it shows. It harder for all these great DEVs to come up with something cool.
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Why can't we get everything? I've seen a sense rom on the vibrant.
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Why can't we get everything? I've seen a sense rom on the vibrant.
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drivers mainly, HTC Sense is for HTC devices and hardware. We unfortunately have a Samsung. I dunno about a Sense port for the Vibrant, Im gonna look into that.
Count me in. Hit me with a pm
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I'm surprised we haven't seen touchwiz on here yet
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The dev's that develop here either don't like TW or don't have the knowledge. Why make a TW rom when the blind fanboi's here lack the objectivity to see what is better and worse. Even CM took something from TW that they liked...doesn't necessarily make TW better but adds a nice touch. They don't get the point when you say this phone can't do a certain thing when every phone since the original Google experience phones can do it. It's like the world is playing a joke on me. I blame the trendiness that has enveloped Android these days. Back when the main phones were MT3G, G1, Hero nobody cared whether everyone liked it they just did it to show they can and because it has an advantage. You can't see an advantage objectively when your blinded with fanboiism(I just made that up..go me).
I think you are under the impression it would be simple to create a TW rom for nexus s. If so.you are sadly mistaken. If it was easy to do someone might do it but it's not. And TW sucks so bad already that taking the time and effort just to get it half working is pointless.
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Oh I'm not saying I want a tw rom ...just surprising to not see it done yet..just due to the fact of how many sense roms are made for nexus one
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this is staying in G area until we see some real work going on
it'll be moved back to DEV when a working ROM becomes available
Coming from an EVO, it seems like the development of ROMs is a ghost town. I'm used to there being 15+ roms that are currently being developed at a time.
So, I decided to give the NS4G a try. Where do I get started? Which are the most stable JB/ICS builds? What ROMs are still active? Also, what's the word on the official JB OTA?(Kinda why I thought I'd try out the NS4G)
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Coming from an EVO, it seems like the development of ROMs is a ghost town. I'm used to there being 15+ roms that are currently being developed at a time.
So, I decided to give the NS4G a try. Where do I get started? Which are the most stable JB/ICS builds? What ROMs are still active? Also, what's the word on the official JB OTA?(Kinda why I thought I'd try out the NS4G)
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Welcome ... still lots going on here. You'll need to do some reading and searching to catch up a bit, but this will get you started. Most of the Jelly Bean development is being done with the gsm devices, because Sprint hasn't released ns4g stuff. With that said, an alpha version of cm10 is in the general forum. ICS is alive and well ... quite a bit to choose from. Since you like to try out different roms, jump in ... plenty of help available.
I think this being an actual google device, we Evo users have a different meaning of "alpha" lol. Alpha meant no camera, maybe no data, maybe no wifi, SOMETHING big isn't working yet. But the CM10 thread says everything works...Is that really the case? Also, where can I find the quickest root method?
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I think this being an actual google device, we Evo users have a different meaning of "alpha" lol. Alpha meant no camera, maybe no data, maybe no wifi, SOMETHING big isn't working yet. But the CM10 thread says everything works...Is that really the case? Also, where can I find the quickest root method?
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I came from the Evo world as well, and understand that people's opinions vary when it comes to definitions. The current cm10 work has all the major components functional ... but there are still issues to be worked out. You can use it as your daily driver, but expect some hiccups along the way. In my opinion, JB is a wonderful step forward in the android progression, and I'm really looking forward to everything being released for our Sprint versions.
edit: there is a giant sticky roundup that will help you with most everything, including root questions ...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1623481
As far as ICS roms go, you have a few choices. Bugless Beast by Peter Alfonso is a mostly stock, very stable ROM with a few small modifications.
AOKP is my personal choice for the most customized experience. Included is a theme chooser, statusbar and lockscreen weather widgets and much more.
Good luck and happy romming!
Congrats on your Nexus purchase!
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Now that binaries are out, your gonna see A LOT of traffic in the development forums
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Welcome to the club!
I have a NS4G as well and I've toyed around with a couple of JB ROMs and the best can be found in this forum (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1792218&page=75) but I agree with everyone above, just snoop around the pages and you'll find stuff...and I haven't heard anything about OTAs yet, but the CDMA kids are left way behind GSM devices so don't have high hopes -_-
Welcome! I had an Evo too. CM10 in the General Forum is running great. While your at it, go get your free $10 from Google Wallet and add any major credit/debit card you want.
Do you still have the Evo? If so use the NS4G for a month then fire up the Evo. You will like the size of the Evo but miss the screen on the NS4G. :thumbup:
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Welcome! I had an Evo too. CM10 in the General Forum is running great. While your at it, go get your free $10 from Google Wallet and add any major credit/debit card you want.
Do you still have the Evo? If so use the NS4G for a month then fire up the Evo. You will like the size of the Evo but miss the screen on the NS4G. :thumbup:
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Fully functional JB and the SAMOLED screen are the main reasons i'd use it. Here in ohio, I haven't seen the pads at registers for NFC. Maybe it's in the more popular cities.
I've had my nexus for over a year right now I have active backups for bugless beast and slim ics for stock and provision, aokp, and cm10 for custom options
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Nick N said:
Welcome! I had an Evo too. CM10 in the General Forum is running great. While your at it, go get your free $10 from Google Wallet and add any major credit/debit card you want.
Do you still have the Evo? If so use the NS4G for a month then fire up the Evo. You will like the size of the Evo but miss the screen on the NS4G. :thumbup:
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Well, I don't miss my EVO at all yet lol.
The only things I would take from my evo is the screen size, dual led flash, the HUGE development community, and....that's about it lol.
I still have the EVO on standby just in case I get phone sick
My NS4G is running MORE than fully functional CM10, stable at 1.4GHz(my evo could barely stand at 1.1), lag isn't a factor, 16GB of internal, and the screen...the screen...I'm in love.
Rom recommendations
Once you're all squared away and rooted, I have to say I loved the new Paranoid Android for JB and SlimICS. Overall it depends how you want to use your phone, if you care more about a custom UI with a tablet, or maxed out performance through Slim. I actually just went from JB back to ICS to test out which I'm happier with, and personally I love having the freedom to run super memory hog fancy launcher replacements and still have a zippy phone with the SlimICS rom. They should be coming out with jelly bean soon though
As I have started using this wonderful phone I have come to the realization that the development for this device is next to nothing. Are there any more developers as devoted to this community as I am?
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Lol, way to post this in the dev section...
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I think everybody is just taking a break and getting ready for the next update. By the way this thread should be in the general thread.
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Its a question to the developers not the general public
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..... are you kidding me right now?..
how many roms do i pump out for this device? how many kernels does mathkid and r_data push for this device? ect ect...
you wanna see a dead device go look at an lg optimus or somethin
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..... are you kidding me right now?..
how many roms do i pump out for this device? how many kernels does mathkid and r_data push for this device? ect ect...
you wanna see a dead device go look at an lg optimus or somethin
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there are a few developers and belive me i know a dead device i developed for the zte warp untill the androidforums.com mods told me there was no use move on.... the diference is there is no "community development" when multiple people work together to build the best rom possible and there id no themeing either which is a substancial part of any development community. i respect you evol4g otherwise i wouldnt have asked you to my team you are doing a great job keep it going the point of this post was to motivate some of the other developers that have been dormant since jellybean came out you all know that they are out there.
Mostly because people are waiting for 4.2. A lot of the current ROMs are similar and very stable so no need to really make new ROMs unless its say Touchwiz, Sense, or any other custom Android firmware. Wait until 4.2 and devs will probably start making more ROMs.
Incorrect thread is incorrect.
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I will preface my comment by saying i really do appreciate all of the work still being done here. But, let's not kid ourselves. Compared to a year ago, or even 6 months ago, the development has slowed down substantially. I wouldn't say its dead, however this device is showing its age. There are new and better devices that a lot of the people that used to frequent this forum. have moved on to.
Again I do appreciate all of the work still happening in here. This is by far the best supported device I have owned!
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i have to agree with you. but i want to pick it back up this device has potential you cant even imagine
After a year and a half I don't think there's much potential a dev hasn't thought of for this device. You don't see a lot of rom development much after the 2 year mark. Mainly because the devs upgrade to a new phone. I'm just grateful for the work the devs are currently doing!
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well im stuck on this phone for a while so you guys that are in the same situation ill keep working with you guys
It will pick back up when el goog releases 4.2 source. I don't think nexus s will "officially" get 5.0. I do think that a few devs will build it for this device regardless. I might even still be here for that, I haven't decided if I'm going to get a nexus 4 yet. The fact that there is potential for glass to break on both sides of the phone doesn't excite me...
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*looks around*
Nope. No development in this thread, that is in the development section.
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Highway 55 said:
I will preface my comment by saying i really do appreciate all of the work still being done here. But, let's not kid ourselves. Compared to a year ago, or even 6 months ago, the development has slowed down substantially. I wouldn't say its dead, however this device is showing its age. There are new and better devices that a lot of the people that used to frequent this forum. have moved on to.
Again I do appreciate all of the work still happening in here. This is by far the best supported device I have owned!
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Good points and when development does eventually grind to a halt for this device, none of us can really get upset about that. It seems to me for the age of this device, development work has far outlived many other phones.
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For a device of this age, with new devices out that trump it... to see any ROMs getting updated is amazing. Take a look at the HTC Vivid for a community that's dead!
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It will pick back up when el goog releases 4.2 source. I don't think nexus s will "officially" get 5.0. I do think that a few devs will build it for this device regardless. I might even still be here for that, I haven't decided if I'm going to get a nexus 4 yet. The fact that there is potential for glass to break on both sides of the phone doesn't excite me...
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No LTE is pretty upsetting as well.
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No LTE is pretty upsetting as well.
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For a new phone, yes. And from what I've been hearing, the battery life isn't even that great, considering the lack of LTE...
I'm a "new" Nexus S owner (bought one used for $120)... and I'm glad I did. It's a solid phone! Now only if I could figure out how to program peak and off-peak email syncing...
I think we'll have the option to have community aosp 5. It will be an option. Just liked the other nexus phones that stopped getting otas but had the option of a built one.
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Maybe we should all learn how to develop ROMs. That go's for all non developers in this community, including me. If there was any guides on how to build really good ROMs I think the nexus community will be more understanding of how it is to be a developer and evolve the community.
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Is it just me, or is there a lack of diversity when it comes to ROMs for the n4? I have been using the nexus lineup since the nexus s, and it seemed back then, and with the galaxy nexus, there was more variety. As in sense ROMs or xperia ROMs, miui etc... With the n4 its miui or aosp variants like AOKP or cm10.
I was a flashoholic for sure back then but now it rarely seems like its worth the effort to try new ROMs out. I typically find one that is stable, and I stick to that for weeks or perhaps a couple of months. There is the odd new feature added to these new ROMs that's interesting, but nothing ever drasticly different.
Don't get me wrong, I love the ability to dump some lines of code in and have an LTE device, or benchmark near what the new s4 puts down, I do like the phone, but why no ports?? Even now there are 4.2.2 xperia ROMs on devices out there, why no n4 love? I have been waiting forever for an alternative lock screen (bb10 or lg's) that I don't think will ever come. Just find it weird.
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many of the developers love the pure android side of it in the first place, thats why they are here. and ports just arent the same, and dont run as well as a native rom. if you want a port, see what you could do to build one, id try it if you put one out
I have thought about trying to port. I don't believe I have the skills to get this done, nor the time to gain said skills. I just wonder, is this perhaps due to the fact that this is an lg device, and the others were Samsung? I would think not, but I don't know enough to say for sure.
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I have thought about trying to port. I don't believe I have the skills to get this done, nor the time to gain said skills. I just wonder, is this perhaps due to the fact that this is an lg device, and the others were Samsung? I would think not, but I don't know enough to say for sure.
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that does make things harder. writing new drivers probably wouldnt be worth it, among other things. that is, unless the developer really wanted that port
When I was on my GNex, I don't remember any Sense/TouchWiz/Blur ROMs, at least not functional.
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You bought a nexus 4, but didn't want AOSP?
If you want a different lock screen, there's apps for that.
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None of the ports would ever get into a useable state or be a fully functional daily driver.
It's easier to have a samsung/htc/whatever and go cyanogenmod when you want the closest-to-stock feel, and you'd also have variations of stock roms (sense, tw..).
I don't think the situation was different in the galaxy nexus forum than it is now here, but i do remember that every once in a while threads about how "all roms are the same" would pop up.
And a last point, i don't get this flashing habbit. There's nothing wrong in sticking to 1 rom for a long time, it only means it's stable and it has all the features you actually use/need. *It's a phone, not a toy, if you're bored during your days maybe it's time to find a hobby or maybe start dating or smth. , or just get another non nexus phone and use it to satisfy your flashoholic needs with buggy ports.
*not being rude..
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No Diversity?
I believe that Diversity starts here.
PIE? Halo? Just a couple off the top of my head.
I would rather have stable and new innovations rather then buggy and every option CM can add thrown at me. Hence why I own a Nexus.
Don't forget Ubuntu Phone, that's pretty far from an AOSP ROM. Most other phones besides Galaxy Nexus don't even have a usable port of this.
Nothing to see here... Just another lazy window shopping end-user with very little knowledge on how developing works trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill.
Human beings can never be satisfied.
(Tendency of human beings)
Exynos S4 users are crying for AOSP based ROM and here nexus 4 users are crying for some OEM based ROM.
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Akhil said:
Human beings can never be satisfied.
(Tendency of human beings)
Exynos S4 users are crying for AOSP based ROM and here nexus 4 users are crying for some OEM based ROM.
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It happens.
On Moto forums people cry for sense ROM. On HTC forums people cry for touch wiz. On Samsung forums people cry for MotoBlur.
(This may or may not be real but when I was in the moto section before there were so many threads asking for a Sense port)
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I would love a perfectly functioning sense rom for the nexus 4 but I highly doubt that will ever happen. Then again the reason I bought this phone was not to have manufacturer and carrier restrictions like the other ones do.
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Nothing to see here... Just another lazy window shopping end-user with very little knowledge on how developing works trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill.
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As a former Nexus S 4G and GNex owner, I agree with him. I don't flash roms anymore because I'm bored with them. I picked up another Nexus phone because I know from experience that Nexus phones push the limits of android, and I just don't feel that about the N4. I'm very thankful for all the devs that are out there, but most of the ROMs coming out for the N4 are large group roms (PA, CM10.1, AOKP) and are not made specifically for our device. ROMs that are made specifically for our device lack diversity.
With the HTC Evo 4G I was trying every ROM out there, and when ICS was released I was on the cutting edge with it, and upgraded to the NS4G because of the way it handled ICS. I then switched all over the place looking for more speed and stability, eager to try out every new feature. Then came the GNex, with Jelly Bean first being released, it was again an adventure of trying new things and having an active development community building for it.
The Nexus 4...I don't know. Other than aesthetics I don't think it's as good of a phone for me as the GNex was. The same core of ROMs run on both phones, but the Galaxy Nexus had a lot more storage.
I still like my phone, but I almost feel like I lost a hobby.
In response to the "get a hobby / start dating" comment. I'm married, work a ton, and have a few hobbies, but I still liked tinkering with my phone during my free evenings.
Yeah, where's all the 13 y/o developers (jk) who used to use the kitchen to make cute roms with custom everything (fonts wallpapers bootanimations dialer you name it) and really stand behind the ROM . As much as other big respectable devs who build from source like to ridicule them, I actually really miss them.
I see illusion ROM kinda doing it right now for the nexus 4 and love it. hopefully more come for us...
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Is it just me, or is there a lack of diversity when it comes to ROMs for the n4? I have been using the nexus lineup since the nexus s, and it seemed back then, and with the galaxy nexus, there was more variety. As in sense ROMs or xperia ROMs, miui etc... With the n4 its miui or aosp variants like AOKP or cm10.
I was a flashoholic for sure back then but now it rarely seems like its worth the effort to try new ROMs out. I typically find one that is stable, and I stick to that for weeks or perhaps a couple of months. There is the odd new feature added to these new ROMs that's interesting, but nothing ever drasticly different.
Don't get me wrong, I love the ability to dump some lines of code in and have an LTE device, or benchmark near what the new s4 puts down, I do like the phone, but why no ports?? Even now there are 4.2.2 xperia ROMs on devices out there, why no n4 love? I have been waiting forever for an alternative lock screen (bb10 or lg's) that I don't think will ever come. Just find it weird.
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you have a point....but stock android with optimization is what most people download the roms for and get nexus 4 in first place (for many ppl)
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As a former Nexus S 4G and GNex owner, I agree with him. I don't flash roms anymore because I'm bored with them. I picked up another Nexus phone because I know from experience that Nexus phones push the limits of android, and I just don't feel that about the N4. I'm very thankful for all the devs that are out there, but most of the ROMs coming out for the N4 are large group roms (PA, CM10.1, AOKP) and are not made specifically for our device. ROMs that are made specifically for our device lack diversity.
With the HTC Evo 4G I was trying every ROM out there, and when ICS was released I was on the cutting edge with it, and upgraded to the NS4G because of the way it handled ICS. I then switched all over the place looking for more speed and stability, eager to try out every new feature. Then came the GNex, with Jelly Bean first being released, it was again an adventure of trying new things and having an active development community building for it.
The Nexus 4...I don't know. Other than aesthetics I don't think it's as good of a phone for me as the GNex was. The same core of ROMs run on both phones, but the Galaxy Nexus had a lot more storage.
I still like my phone, but I almost feel like I lost a hobby.
In response to the "get a hobby / start dating" comment. I'm married, work a ton, and have a few hobbies, but I still liked tinkering with my phone during my free evenings.
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Well you said it, galaxy nexus had jelly bean. There were no big updates during the era of the nexus 4, but give it a bit of time till KLP (or whatever it's gonna be called) arrives, none of those buggy touchwiz or sense roms will interest you. Oh and it's gonna be exclusive to a few devices (nexus line and GE phones)
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I'd rather have developers pushing the boundaries of AOSP (so everyone can enjoy them) than investing time in a proprietary and in the end, lackluster result compared to the stock experience.
Unless the device is a direct relative, you won't see a good port of any OEM firmware.
I believe stock has a great level of quality and that can be seen on the polls, most people using pure stock.
Also we have great Roms that build upon AOSP and our device is first party supported (see PA). With features like HALO, privacy controls and others, they are delivering great improvements across all devices.
In the end, if you want the best AOSP experience, get a Nexus.
If you want the best Touchwiz experience, get S4.
If you want the best Sense experience, get One.
Etc.
If you really need a OEM overlay, I guess you have the wrong device, friend.
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I just installed PA with HALO to try to prove my thoughts wrong, and there's really no way to get rid of HALO? It's annoying and intrusive, I absolutely hate it, and it just sits there. I went to hide it, and it still just sits on the edge of my screen. Gah! It makes me claustrophobic. I realize that this isn't a popular opinion as everybody raves about HALO, but I can't stand it.
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I just installed PA with HALO to try to prove my thoughts wrong, and there's really no way to get rid of HALO? It's annoying and intrusive, I absolutely hate it, and it just sits there. I went to hide it, and it still just sits on the edge of my screen. Gah! It makes me claustrophobic. I realize that this isn't a popular opinion as everybody raves about HALO, but I can't stand it.
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Same here, I couldn't stand it for more than 5 minutes when I tried it. I even tried to like the whole pie craze, but after 2 days I got sick of swiping to use the navigation buttons, it just felt like extra work. I mean don't get me wrong the PA team are absolute geniuses at what they do, but it just wasn't for me.
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Should I be getting paranoid that the developer support of this device is very slow out of the gate? The hardware is great and beats everything else I tried, but now with S-Off out there for the One on VZW, I am getting worried that I chose poorly.
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Should I be getting paranoid that the developer support of this device is very slow out of the gate? The hardware is great and beats everything else I tried, but now with S-Off out there for the One on VZW, I am getting worried that I chose poorly.
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Not sure what you are looking for or what you are missing, but there has been plenty of Dev support for the VZW VS980
Hosehead said:
Should I be getting paranoid that the developer support of this device is very slow out of the gate? The hardware is great and beats everything else I tried, but now with S-Off out there for the One on VZW, I am getting worried that I chose poorly.
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I am talking from my experience with the G Pro. There are Roms but really all those CM based Roms or other ones are all weak compared to the stock based Roms. U loose so many features with those costume Roms. From dual shot camera and video to quick note to smart screen and smart video to some other great features u only have on stock ROM. U basically gonna cripple ur G2 if u use a costume ROM.
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Hosehead said:
Should I be getting paranoid that the developer support of this device is very slow out of the gate? The hardware is great and beats everything else I tried, but now with S-Off out there for the One on VZW, I am getting worried that I chose poorly.
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OMG another one of these threads that has been answered over and over. If you don't like the current developer support on the G2, then return it. I find it funny that the people that always ask starts these topics are smart enough to find XDA forums to look for development but yet don't look around in the General and Development threads to gauge for themselves on whether it has enough developer support for that phone to them.
How soon do people except a custom ROM besides just a debloated stock ROM in the first few weeks? Since its clear that you are not a developer and don't understand that you can't just whip out pre-alpha custom ROMs that will crash people's phones and it takes time to do this stuff. Remember that the developers are not paid to do this stuff and do this as a hobby. If you can't deal with patience than get the GS4 or the HTC One.
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OMG another one of these threads that has been answered over and over. If you don't like the current developer support on the G2, then return it. I find it funny that the people that always ask starts these topics are smart enough to find XDA forums to look for development but yet don't look around in the General and Development threads to gauge for themselves on whether it has enough developer support for that phone to them.
How soon do people except a custom ROM besides just a debloated stock ROM in the first few weeks? Since its clear that you are not a developer and don't understand that you can't just whip out pre-alpha custom ROMs that will crash people's phones and it takes time to do this stuff. Remember that the developers are not paid to do this stuff and do this as a hobby. If you can't deal with patience than get the GS4 or the HTC One.
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This thread happens with every new phone lol! O.P even the phones you want to exchange with this one at some point had threads just like this one right before ROMS became available
2 roms is far from other if support. A few tweaks. Nothing to write home about. No OEM accessories except for one overpriced case.
Sorry, but coming from a long line of custom roms on devices I have a higher expectation for my roms. And those CM or AOKP types blow stock out of the water and add tons of other features that outperform the stock.
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2 roms is far from a lot of support. A few tweaks. Nothing to write home about. No OEM accessories except for one overpriced case.
Sorry, but coming from a long line of custom roms on devices I have a higher expectation for my roms. And those CM or AOKP types blow stock out of the water and add tons of other features that outperform the stock.
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Sounds like the OP is the typical "user" anymore. For some reason even tjo they have no idea the amount of work that goes into building a rom or a kernel or mod, they just somehow feel entitled to get it when they want it. Guess what dude, had HTC ONE on release day , and development was slower than the G2 is. Want a rom when you want it.....build it yourself . this **** aint easy, if it was youd be building a rom instead of *****ing about it.
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2 roms is far from other if support. A few tweaks. Nothing to write home about. No OEM accessories except for one overpriced case.
Sorry, but coming from a long line of custom roms on devices I have a higher expectation for my roms. And those CM or AOKP types blow stock out of the water and add tons of other features that outperform the stock.
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Don't know what to say since you feel entitled to have 20 custom ROMs a week after release. If you are so compelled to want custom ROMs, why don't you try developing one and contributing instead of complaining. You seem way too paranoid about developer support for a phone for someone that contributes nothing to the development scene. Most of us are just grateful that we have volunteer developers that want to develop ROMs for the LG G2. I don't demand but rather appreciate all the hard work that they do when they feel ready to release it. I understand that making a ROM is not a walk in the park or else everyone would be doing it.
My advice to you....get a GS4 or HTC One. It has 20 billion custom ROMs that you can flash to your heart's desire right now.
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Don't know what to say since you feel entitled to have 20 custom ROMs a week after release. If you are so compelled to want custom ROMs, why don't you try developing one and contributing instead of complaining. You seem way too paranoid about developer support for a phone for someone that contributes nothing to the development scene. Most of us are just grateful that we have volunteer developers that want to develop ROMs for the LG G2. I don't demand but rather appreciate all the hard work that they do when they feel ready to release it. I understand that making a ROM is not a walk in the park or else everyone would be doing it.
My advice to you....get a GS4 or HTC One. It has 20 billion custom ROMs that you can flash to your heart's desire right now.
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Or just get an iPhone, it seems to have as much development future as the G2 according to the OP
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2 roms is far from other if support. A few tweaks. Nothing to write home about. No OEM accessories except for one overpriced case.
Sorry, but coming from a long line of custom roms on devices I have a higher expectation for my roms. And those CM or AOKP types blow stock out of the water and add tons of other features that outperform the stock.
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Then return it, or sack up n learn how to do it yourself.....
Hosehead said:
2 roms is far from other if support. A few tweaks. Nothing to write home about. No OEM accessories except for one overpriced case.
Sorry, but coming from a long line of custom roms on devices I have a higher expectation for my roms. And those CM or AOKP types blow stock out of the water and add tons of other features that outperform the stock.
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It hasn't even been a full month yet, and we have a decent amount of mods and a couple ROMs already. That's nothing to scoff at by any sort of reasonable standard. Slow your roll, bro.
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Should I be getting paranoid that the developer support of this device is very slow out of the gate? The hardware is great and beats everything else I tried, but now with S-Off out there for the One on VZW, I am getting worried that I chose poorly.
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im a flashaholic, and once i got root on this bad boy i got all my apps i needed
gameplay is smooth
im really liking lg's UI and stock rom/kernel
Phone rarely even gets warm ,not hot.
Camera is really great
Quick Remote is great as well
Im satisfied with stock rom for once. lol
battery is INSANE checkout post #76 screenshots , no way thatll happen on the ONE http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2470564&page=8
I've owned plenty of popular flagship devices and even though they have plenty of ROM selection, I've found them to be very similar to each other so I only chose between two or three different ones as my daily driver... So ROM selection is usually over rated based on all the copycat ROM available.
I personally enjoyed my time more with the smaller and unpopular devices that had fewer ROM's at first but then development picked up. Which I think will be the case with this phone.
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Or how about STFU...I think that about covers it ?
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I'm very happy with this phone and the activity in the development community so far. The only two major things I would like to see happen in the future is a port of 4.4 and of 5.0 when they eventually are released into the wild. I don't have much faith in LG but with the new nexus phone so similar I'd imagine this will be done.
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Medialunas said:
I'm very happy with this phone and the activity in the development community so far. The only two major things I would like to see happen in the future is a port of 4.4 and of 5.0 when they eventually are released into the wild. I don't have much faith in LG but with the new nexus phone so similar I'd imagine this will be done.
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Ya with the nexus phone for sure. But for there non nexus phones.? I don't know if LG can be trusted to update those. Lol
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Lots of bitter smart asses here I see. Wow. I stated an opinion and got flamed. What douchebags.
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from my experience the best roms out there is the one close to the ship rom. any AOSP or etc. roms will have missing features.
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Lots of bitter smart asses here I see. Wow. I stated an opinion and got flamed. What douchebags.
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U diserve it, whining cause someone else isnt doing work u want on your timeframe....... If its that big of a deal, do some research, and learn.... then u dont have to depend on anyone but u...