Memory killing by stock setting - Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General

Limit background process
setting-developer option-Limit background processes
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If you fancy an even more serious bit of fiddling, the same ICS developer area contains the option to "limit background process" demands by the OS. You can use this to stop your phone or tablet storing so many apps in memory. Whether this has any effect of the actual battery life of us users is up for debate, but again, it's something to play with and see if it suits your phone use patterns.
I personally find better myself with android RAM management, but this can be helpful to whom, who really crazy about keeping memory free all the time.at least you won't need to have third party application. I think this wud be better if you allow to keep 3-4 application in background.
Though your reviews are welcome here, how does you feel after using this.

its nice,
but had it kill my browser or app when I had typed something and was switching between the two. It was a long piece of typing and anoyed the crap I had to retype it all lol.
edit could have been user error lol
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I tried to limit background process to 4 but when I access my task manager and chk the Ram it shows no difference of memory usage.Further when I close applications to free up some RAM,it says 29 :what: applications closed! Wonder this setting even works
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No something went wrong. May changes not applied, otherwise it closes only 4 appl if you set it to 4.
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I think this limits multi-tasking to four apps.
It will let only four apps running.

I think it is not multitasking, it keeps application open if you have put appl to background(e.g. by pressing Home). But it auto kills appl which was closed by user.

Tried this method wasn't of much help to me..the ram usage was still 600~650 mb.. Switched to clean note and removed some apps by using titanium and now ram usage is 400 mb

Nope, just check after some time, it must be again higher. Removing application won't help more. as it will be replaced by last using appl.

It's 500mb now..
Opera mobile google music,xda app are running.. That's pretty good for me

I have tried again,same processes.Not working:thumbdown:
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Not working for Sure:banghead:
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I don't think that this option has anything to do with the RAM but the processor. It doesn't kill apps but just prevent more than 4 apps for instance to be running in the background, like Facebook finding notifications...

@babsmatter
I think this will not kill active appl, like mail sync, facebook msg. but just kill inactive appl running in background.
after activating this option, you can mark it won't kill just 4 appl but sure list will be much smaller then stock setting, which usually have 23-25 appl in background.

Maybe u better Know,I've tried it again but still it says 20+ applications closed
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may be changes not applying in your device. I have recheck and closed just 6 app. Anyway don't know reason.

Dr K. or anyone else please -Can you confirm if that setting ie limit process to four changes back to default with power off. It happens with my note and it is a bugger because it means going into settings and changing it back again.
It shouldn't revert to default setting which is the first setting ( i can't remember the name -it's something like STANDARD LIMIT or something like that) . I suppose there isn't anyway to keep it from reverting back to default with powering phone off. Oh Sod!..
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fida khan said:
Dr K. or anyone else please -Can you confirm if that setting ie limit process to four changes back to default with power off. It happens with my note and it is a bugger because it means going into settings and changing it back again.
It shouldn't revert to default setting which is the first setting ( i can't remember the name -it's something like STANDARD LIMIT or something like that) . I suppose there isn't anyway to keep it from reverting back to default with powering phone off. Oh Sod!..
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anyone figured out what th "standard limit" is ?

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anyone figured out what th "standard limit" is ?
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Standard limit i assume means it either doesn't kill/ stop any apps you've opened and/or the system doesn't kill the apps that it normally keeps open (for faster access when it needs to open them) and are normally hidden - ie NO APPS ARE KILLED... Best two possibilities i could come up with
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yeah
Standard limit means, android won't kill any background process, till sufficient RAM is available.
When it requires free RAM, it kills background process which is not in use.

dr.ketan said:
yeah
Standard limit means, android won't kill any background process, till sufficient RAM is available.
When it requires free RAM, it kills background process which is not in use.
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Doctor k why does setting revert to default after power off. It's a pain. Does your note do that or is it just me. Lol . Thanks
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[Q] RAM usage...

My RAM is always at about 250/328MB
Is it possible to lower that amount used?
Would it help speed things up a little? Wondering if that would help with the problem that sometimes when I back out of a program or app or hit the 'home' button all that comes up is my background pic and it sometimes takes 20 seconds or so for my apps to appear on the screen.
My 'home screen' just has the Samsung widget Program monitor on it and I usually try and keep that at 0 so Im not running programs Im not using anymore.
Thanks
Get app killers and a program that does garbage collecting to force the release of memory
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Get app killers and a program that does garbage collecting to force the release of memory
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I would avoid that as it will likely cause problems. Android will have a high memory usage when everything is running fine and normally. It leaves frequently used apps in memory so it takes less time to open them when you need them. It will also free up and allocate memory automatically as needed. If the system gets low on memory, it will free it up from somewhere else. Task killers will just create lag as they will close stuff that likely should be running, or needs to be running. Killing them just creates lag by forcing them to restart. Same goes with other applications, like the browser, email, gmail and messaging that people likely use frequently. Killing them will just make it take longer when you go to open them up again.
not totally true...if you know what you are doing then freeing memory by killing apps that you don't use everyday makes machine run smoother...installed about 400 apps which caused auto start ups to cause machine to run super slow with about 40-60 megs free.
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not totally true...if you know what you are doing then freeing memory by killing apps that you don't use everyday makes machine run smoother...installed about 400 apps which caused auto start ups to cause machine to run super slow with about 40-60 megs free.
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Just hold down your home button, there's a task manager built in... end all of the apps you aren't using.
True but I was thinking more about processes...rss doesn't work right now so I kill the two processes...stuff like that and gtalk and skype
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the best thing to do is root your phone then get an app like titanium backup and freeze the bloatware or the apps you dont use. i have done this and it has freed up something like 20-50 mb of ram
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I would avoid that as it will likely cause problems. Android will have a high memory usage when everything is running fine and normally. It leaves frequently used apps in memory so it takes less time to open them when you need them. It will also free up and allocate memory automatically as needed. If the system gets low on memory, it will free it up from somewhere else. Task killers will just create lag as they will close stuff that likely should be running, or needs to be running. Killing them just creates lag by forcing them to restart. Same goes with other applications, like the browser, email, gmail and messaging that people likely use frequently. Killing them will just make it take longer when you go to open them up again.
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While that is true, if youre smart about the apps you kill,you'll extend your battery life and increase your ram. Dont kill things like task manager, voice command, and any widgets you're using. like imnuts was saying, if you kill those apps, youre decreasing your battery life and create lag because theyll reopen on their own and are essential for the phone to run. U want to kill things like phone, messaging, facebook, cachemate, and other things that dont automatically quit when u exit them and arent essential for the phone to run. once ur finished with them and dont need to use them again u can kill it. The task manager that comes with the phone only detects apps that are left open using the home button. Also, dont use live wallpapers and widgets u dont use. Use setcpu and a debloated rom, and that should help as well.
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You earned this one today Biz
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hahahahahhahahaha
Get rid of touch wiz, get gingebread launcher. Frees it up tons.
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Google Now voice commands

Hi,
Recently i've been having problems with some of Google Now's voice commands. Prior to the Google Now update last week I was able to set myself reminders using my voice i.e "Remind me that dinner is ready in 20 minutes" - This would then set an alarm on my phone to remind me in 20 minutes time.
However when I use that same command now, it saves a "note" instead and does not remind me.
I've also noticed that some of the other commands I used to use (Play, Listen to, Navigate To etc) now result in a Google Search instead.
Wondered if anyone could help?
Same issue here.
I used google now for boiling eggs. For instance, telling Now to "set alarm in 8 minutes" would alarm me in 8 minutes.
What it does now is it sets an alarm at 8pm, titled "minutes". This actually made me overcook my eggs yesterday, haha.
I cleared the app's cache but to no avail. I haven't bothered clearing the app data. This probably is the new way this command is handled, and I hope they will revert it. By the way, do you happen to have Google Keep installed? I'm thinking that the note-setting may be related to that...
Same here... Google now seems a bit more like siri to me
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vindikleuk said:
Same issue here.
I used google now for boiling eggs. For instance, telling Now to "set alarm in 8 minutes" would alarm me in 8 minutes.
What it does now is it sets an alarm at 8pm, titled "minutes". This actually made me overcook my eggs yesterday, haha.
I cleared the app's cache but to no avail. I haven't bothered clearing the app data. This probably is the new way this command is handled, and I hope they will revert it. By the way, do you happen to have Google Keep installed? I'm thinking that the note-setting may be related to that...
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same problem, are google aware?
toge64 said:
same problem, are google aware?
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Use the give feedback button in the menu.
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vindikleuk said:
Same issue here.
I used google now for boiling eggs. For instance, telling Now to "set alarm in 8 minutes" would alarm me in 8 minutes.
What it does now is it sets an alarm at 8pm, titled "minutes". This actually made me overcook my eggs yesterday, haha.
I cleared the app's cache but to no avail. I haven't bothered clearing the app data. This probably is the new way this command is handled, and I hope they will revert it. By the way, do you happen to have Google Keep installed? I'm thinking that the note-setting may be related to that...
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Yeah I downloaded Google Keep a few days before the commands stopped working. I'll try uninstalling it now and see if that makes a difference. If it is the new way the command is handled, I hope Google revert it back to the old way.
apt3r said:
Yeah I downloaded Google Keep a few days before the commands stopped working. I'll try uninstalling it now and see if that makes a difference. If it is the new way the command is handled, I hope Google revert it back to the old way.
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Any difference after uninstalling Google Keep?
Seems to be back to normal guys. Let me know if it works for you
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Seems to be back to normal guys. Let me know if it works for you
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I froze Google Keep with titanium backup. It's still saving notes when I don't want it to, and the timer won't work either.
Use the command. set timer 8 minutes
See if that works for you because that is still working for me and I am stock non rooted all apps updated
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jonapunk said:
Use the command. set timer 8 minutes
See if that works for you because that is still working for me and I am stock non rooted all apps updated
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yup, same issue
Use the command. set timer 8 minutes
See if that works for you because that is still working for me and I am stock non rooted all apps updated
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Are you guys using a custom kernel or just custom rom. I'm wondering why Google now would make our phones behave differently
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'Set timer' also worked for me. Using AKOP 4.2.2
Woah, are you on the last version of google search as well? And American english set as system language? This is interesting and strange at the same time.
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Edit: I'm on franco's kernel by the way. I don't see how that would make a difference to Google Now behaviour though.
Still having the same issues, anyone know how to clear the app cache? - bit of a noob here!
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Still having the same issues, anyone know how to clear the app cache? - bit of a noob here!
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Settings » Apps » Select ALL apps.
Then find "Google Search", and under Cache, hit "Clear cache".
That didn't fix it for me, though. d'awwww
All good for me. "set reminder to ... at 9 o'clock tonight' set an alarm with almost the right description. I'd like it better if it went into tasks instead though and set a reminder alarm.
"Set timer for 1 minute" also set an alarm for 1 minute from current time.
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What is App Optimization exactly?

Ok, I just received the N910FXXU1COJ3 OTA on my DBT N-910F with all the security updates. Great, but I did notice that the conveniet app manager feature that killed background processes inside Smart Manager is now gone and from the looks of things, there is a new "alternative" ambiguously called App optimization, within the battery section.
Now I for one am getting pretty tired of this inconsistency and constant feature swapping and come here seeking information. Can anyone actually clear things up for me and explain what exactly App optimization means. Will it simply kill the apps background services and if so, why is the minimum timeout 3 days? I also heard that it is more like a disable fuature for the selected apps, meaning no activity whatsoever, like notifications.
Is there any way that i can make use of the convenient "garbage collection" that Smart Manager used to offer, or am I hopelessly stuck dealing with Samsung`s ADD?
Thanks, any assistance is greatly appreciated.
How about some screenshots ?
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I think it is something like Doze or Greenify
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How about some screenshots ?
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http: // imgur . com/a/6N0q8
Sry I`m on mobile and thats the best i could do, plus i can`t post links
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http: // imgur . com/a/6N0q8
Sry I`m on mobile and thats the best i could do, plus i can`t post links
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Ok that's no good.
Go to play store and install Tapatalk and then you can upload screenshots directly to here from Tapatalk app like this image.
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Ok. I have a call recorder. It just happens to stop working after awhile. I went to app optimazation and disabled it. Does that mean now that my Call Recorder app doesn't apply to these rules and should never shut off or stop working if I disabled it for that app. It's so annoying because all of sudden your looking and your call isn't being recorded. I have to open the app...then it works again. Am I using the app optimazation option improperly?
When I bought the pro version; a message appeared explaining to disable app optimazation for the app so it continuously works. Is this right? And I'm just dealing with an app problem or I'm I not using this feature properly. I want my call recorder to always be working. [email protected]
THX
App Optimization is Doze mode, that simple
You have to disable App Optimization for apps that should always run in background or be accessible without opening the app itself like Tesla Unread, Torchie, some reminder apps an some e-mail apps. In my expirience if an app is being optimized it will not show any notifications and such until "acitivized" by opening the app itself.
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You have to disable App Optimization for apps that should always run in background or be accessible without opening the app itself like Tesla Unread, Torchie, some reminder apps an some e-mail apps. In my expirience if an app is being optimized it will not show any notifications and such until "acitivized" by opening the app itself.
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how do you actually use it?
galaxy16 said:
how do you actually use it?
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Apps that I don't need running in background and have used more battery than I think they should when in background are set to "Always power saving". Exaples: 9GAG. Previously I used Greenify for these apps.
Apps that need to stay active at all times are set to "Disable for". Examples: Reminders, Tesla Unread.
Most of other apps are set to "Automatically optimising".
su660ics said:
App Optimization is Doze mode, that simple
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This.
This feature can also be found on aosp based roms like cm13.
i cant find some apps in the optimization list (like whatsapp) and messages comes really slowly !
Any suggestions?

Questions about battery draining...

Hello, I have got the Note 4 you see in my sign..
I'm wondering why my Note 4 has this heavy draining mainly by 2 processes (Android System and Android Operating System).
As you can notice in attachment the processes I said drain about the same percentage of Screen On.
What do you think about this issue?
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umby75 said:
Hello, I have got the Note 4 you see in my sign..
I'm wondering why my Note 4 has this heavy draining mainly by 2 processes (Android System and Android Operating System).
As you can notice in attachment the processes I said drain about the same percentage of Screen On.
What do you think about this issue?
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Probably, you should uninstall Clean Master and the like. I think it's the real culprit here
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Probably, you should uninstall Clean Master and the like. I think it's the real culprit here
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I've been using Clean Master for a long time and I've never had this issue before.
However Clean Master consumes "only" 12% as the item says..
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Uninstall Clean Master. Those apps are meaningless.
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Uninstall Clean Master. Those apps are meaningless.
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Clean Master helps for the Junk Files. What do you suggest for junk? Clean Master?
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2 ppl already said cleanmaster unnecessary as we already got smart manager. imho, all apps alike clean master / antivirus are unneeded in smartphone.
back to topic, did you just flash / reset your phone? cause this is normal.
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Clean Master helps for the Junk Files. What do you suggest for junk? Clean Master?
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Use SD Maid for cleaning. It has other useful features as well.
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2 ppl already said cleanmaster unnecessary as we already got smart manager. imho, all apps alike clean master / antivirus are unneeded in smartphone.
back to topic, did you just flash / reset your phone? cause this is normal.
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I'm sorry..I was wrong in my previous post when I asked which app do you suggest me. I meant to say CCleaner but the answer I think should be the same.
To be honest I deactivated the optimisation app for battery in Smart Manager. But now I'll enable this feature.
However I noticed Smart Manager for junk files is powered by Clean Master (you find written that next to unnecessary data in Smart Manager).
I don't remember if I've ever resetted my phone (probably only some wipe Dalvik cache) but I wouldn't like reinstall all things and I should spend a lot of time to recreate folders, shortcut, etc...[emoji27]
You consider that I don't have root access for use of Titanium Backup..
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CCleaner should not affect your phone to this extent. It's not the problem.
I find that Google Framework services are the problem.
Look for both the newest Google Play store AND Google Play Services apk online (apkmirror or androidpit) make sure you get the right ones for your phone - they'll tell you how to check.
Go to App Manager and clear caches for these apps or disable if you can.
Install the new ones.
This may or may not work, it's hit and miss. I had the same problems with my S6 edge +, and this did it for me.
Some people don't like cleaners - I do. I use 360 and Greenify and at times, Deep Sleep Battery Saver.
And I use SdMaid for deep cleaning.
Shutapp and Doze work very well for my LgG4.
Whatever people say, I have increased performance with these apps, and with Greenify I have extended battery during screen off - I've tested it extensively.
The key to improved battery life in all cases is to fine tune your 'white lists' and to be sure that these apps THEMSELVES are not running in the background.
With the apps I've mentioned there's no problem, I've never used CCleaner on my phone.
The Battery optimisation that comes with Samsung is VERY good though. You must make sure you go through ALL the apps and select 'always optimising' except for those few (clock, calendar, Nova AND the external optimization apps you have installed, i.e. CCleaner in this case) which you select 'never optimising.' It makes a big difference.
You'll see that Google Framework Services cannot be optimized.
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Google Play Service consums that percentage as it's shown in picture I shared you.
I worried about that two processes of Android System with a very high percentage.
In my phone I have a very large battery by Zerolemon and I don't mind to deactivate some processes like background apps.
I don't know how Samsung Optimisation works and for now I setted Optimisation every three days for all apps.
@kolembo
Why do you suggest me to exclude optimisation of clock, calendar, et. apps?
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I want to thank you all because after the optimisation (Smart Manager) the battery discharges very slowly..and with this large battery is very quite!
But how does it work Smart Manager?
Do we have some other apps in other phones to get the same outcome??
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Google Maps 6 gets killed running in background

Hi guys, is anyone here still using Google maps v6?
It is still working fine, except that on this phone (s10+ Exynos) the app gets killed when running in the background.
At first i believed it to be because i had added the app to the sleep list. I had done that because the system keeps saying the app is eating up battery, even when not running.
So I removed the app from the sleep list, but it keeps getting killed.
How can i make sure that an app never gets killed when running in the background?
Try this go into settings and search optimize battery usage, and then press optimize battery usage listed. You have the options to see what is not optimize battery usage or all click all on top left and see If maps is toggled on. If so toggle off.
latino147 said:
Hi guys, is anyone here still using Google maps v6?
It is still working fine, except that on this phone (s10+ Exynos) the app gets killed when running in the background.
At first i believed it to be because i had added the app to the sleep list. I had done that because the system keeps saying the app is eating up battery, even when not running.
So I removed the app from the sleep list, but it keeps getting killed.
How can i make sure that an app never gets killed when running in the background?
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I have those settings now, and removed the app from the sleeping apps (again). I'm afraid the system will put it back on the 'sleep' list again because it uses a lot of battery in the background (I get regular warnings about that).
Anyone have an idea why this app would be so active while not even used?
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I have those settings now, and removed the app from the sleeping apps (again). I'm afraid the system will put it back on the 'sleep' list again because it uses a lot of battery in the background (I get regular warnings about that).
Anyone have an idea why this app would be so active while not even used?
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What power mode are you running at? Play with a few settings on the attache two screens. View attachment 4766542View attachment 4766543
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I have the same settings as you have.
What happens is that i get warnings about the old apps eating battery. I guess i then put it to sleep without noticing.
I restarted my phone, did NOT start mapsD, but its still doing something on the background.
latino147 said:
I have the same settings as you have.
What happens is that i get warnings about the old apps eating battery. I guess i then put it to sleep without noticing.
I restarted my phone, did NOT start mapsD, but its still doing something on the background.
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It's a modded maps correct? It eats alot battery not even sure it's worth it. What use it ?
fearbasel04 said:
It's a modded maps correct? It eats alot battery not even sure it's worth it. What use it ?
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It's v6 of Google Maps. It had a much simpler interface, and easier to use when looking for alternative routes.
And it doesn't have all that commercial baggage of the new version, which is way slower too btw.
The only thing is, why does it use battery when not even started....
latino147 said:
It's v6 of Google Maps. It had a much simpler interface, and easier to use when looking for alternative routes.
And it doesn't have all that commercial baggage of the new version, which is way slower too btw.
The only thing is, why does it use battery when not even started....
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Being it's an old version I would think you downloaded it from the net and not the play store. Maybe it has hidden spyware etc?
fearbasel04 said:
Being it's an old version I would think you downloaded it from the net and not the play store. Maybe it has hidden spyware etc?
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I actually got it here from XDA, posted by a senior member.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2566159

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