My RAM is always at about 250/328MB
Is it possible to lower that amount used?
Would it help speed things up a little? Wondering if that would help with the problem that sometimes when I back out of a program or app or hit the 'home' button all that comes up is my background pic and it sometimes takes 20 seconds or so for my apps to appear on the screen.
My 'home screen' just has the Samsung widget Program monitor on it and I usually try and keep that at 0 so Im not running programs Im not using anymore.
Thanks
Get app killers and a program that does garbage collecting to force the release of memory
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Get app killers and a program that does garbage collecting to force the release of memory
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I would avoid that as it will likely cause problems. Android will have a high memory usage when everything is running fine and normally. It leaves frequently used apps in memory so it takes less time to open them when you need them. It will also free up and allocate memory automatically as needed. If the system gets low on memory, it will free it up from somewhere else. Task killers will just create lag as they will close stuff that likely should be running, or needs to be running. Killing them just creates lag by forcing them to restart. Same goes with other applications, like the browser, email, gmail and messaging that people likely use frequently. Killing them will just make it take longer when you go to open them up again.
not totally true...if you know what you are doing then freeing memory by killing apps that you don't use everyday makes machine run smoother...installed about 400 apps which caused auto start ups to cause machine to run super slow with about 40-60 megs free.
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not totally true...if you know what you are doing then freeing memory by killing apps that you don't use everyday makes machine run smoother...installed about 400 apps which caused auto start ups to cause machine to run super slow with about 40-60 megs free.
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Just hold down your home button, there's a task manager built in... end all of the apps you aren't using.
True but I was thinking more about processes...rss doesn't work right now so I kill the two processes...stuff like that and gtalk and skype
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the best thing to do is root your phone then get an app like titanium backup and freeze the bloatware or the apps you dont use. i have done this and it has freed up something like 20-50 mb of ram
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I would avoid that as it will likely cause problems. Android will have a high memory usage when everything is running fine and normally. It leaves frequently used apps in memory so it takes less time to open them when you need them. It will also free up and allocate memory automatically as needed. If the system gets low on memory, it will free it up from somewhere else. Task killers will just create lag as they will close stuff that likely should be running, or needs to be running. Killing them just creates lag by forcing them to restart. Same goes with other applications, like the browser, email, gmail and messaging that people likely use frequently. Killing them will just make it take longer when you go to open them up again.
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While that is true, if youre smart about the apps you kill,you'll extend your battery life and increase your ram. Dont kill things like task manager, voice command, and any widgets you're using. like imnuts was saying, if you kill those apps, youre decreasing your battery life and create lag because theyll reopen on their own and are essential for the phone to run. U want to kill things like phone, messaging, facebook, cachemate, and other things that dont automatically quit when u exit them and arent essential for the phone to run. once ur finished with them and dont need to use them again u can kill it. The task manager that comes with the phone only detects apps that are left open using the home button. Also, dont use live wallpapers and widgets u dont use. Use setcpu and a debloated rom, and that should help as well.
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You earned this one today Biz
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Get rid of touch wiz, get gingebread launcher. Frees it up tons.
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Limit background process
setting-developer option-Limit background processes
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If you fancy an even more serious bit of fiddling, the same ICS developer area contains the option to "limit background process" demands by the OS. You can use this to stop your phone or tablet storing so many apps in memory. Whether this has any effect of the actual battery life of us users is up for debate, but again, it's something to play with and see if it suits your phone use patterns.
I personally find better myself with android RAM management, but this can be helpful to whom, who really crazy about keeping memory free all the time.at least you won't need to have third party application. I think this wud be better if you allow to keep 3-4 application in background.
Though your reviews are welcome here, how does you feel after using this.
its nice,
but had it kill my browser or app when I had typed something and was switching between the two. It was a long piece of typing and anoyed the crap I had to retype it all lol.
edit could have been user error lol
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I tried to limit background process to 4 but when I access my task manager and chk the Ram it shows no difference of memory usage.Further when I close applications to free up some RAM,it says 29 :what: applications closed! Wonder this setting even works
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No something went wrong. May changes not applied, otherwise it closes only 4 appl if you set it to 4.
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I think this limits multi-tasking to four apps.
It will let only four apps running.
I think it is not multitasking, it keeps application open if you have put appl to background(e.g. by pressing Home). But it auto kills appl which was closed by user.
Tried this method wasn't of much help to me..the ram usage was still 600~650 mb.. Switched to clean note and removed some apps by using titanium and now ram usage is 400 mb
Nope, just check after some time, it must be again higher. Removing application won't help more. as it will be replaced by last using appl.
It's 500mb now..
Opera mobile google music,xda app are running.. That's pretty good for me
I have tried again,same processes.Not working:thumbdown:
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Not working for Sure:banghead:
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I don't think that this option has anything to do with the RAM but the processor. It doesn't kill apps but just prevent more than 4 apps for instance to be running in the background, like Facebook finding notifications...
@babsmatter
I think this will not kill active appl, like mail sync, facebook msg. but just kill inactive appl running in background.
after activating this option, you can mark it won't kill just 4 appl but sure list will be much smaller then stock setting, which usually have 23-25 appl in background.
Maybe u better Know,I've tried it again but still it says 20+ applications closed
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may be changes not applying in your device. I have recheck and closed just 6 app. Anyway don't know reason.
Dr K. or anyone else please -Can you confirm if that setting ie limit process to four changes back to default with power off. It happens with my note and it is a bugger because it means going into settings and changing it back again.
It shouldn't revert to default setting which is the first setting ( i can't remember the name -it's something like STANDARD LIMIT or something like that) . I suppose there isn't anyway to keep it from reverting back to default with powering phone off. Oh Sod!..
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Dr K. or anyone else please -Can you confirm if that setting ie limit process to four changes back to default with power off. It happens with my note and it is a bugger because it means going into settings and changing it back again.
It shouldn't revert to default setting which is the first setting ( i can't remember the name -it's something like STANDARD LIMIT or something like that) . I suppose there isn't anyway to keep it from reverting back to default with powering phone off. Oh Sod!..
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anyone figured out what th "standard limit" is ?
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anyone figured out what th "standard limit" is ?
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Standard limit i assume means it either doesn't kill/ stop any apps you've opened and/or the system doesn't kill the apps that it normally keeps open (for faster access when it needs to open them) and are normally hidden - ie NO APPS ARE KILLED... Best two possibilities i could come up with
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yeah
Standard limit means, android won't kill any background process, till sufficient RAM is available.
When it requires free RAM, it kills background process which is not in use.
dr.ketan said:
yeah
Standard limit means, android won't kill any background process, till sufficient RAM is available.
When it requires free RAM, it kills background process which is not in use.
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Doctor k why does setting revert to default after power off. It's a pain. Does your note do that or is it just me. Lol . Thanks
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Hi all,
My S4 (4G 16GB Snapdragon) keeps freezing when it is locked, e.g. in my pocket, on my desk at work etc. It also sometimes freezes when it is charging overnight. It was doing this non stop but after I deleted AVG it seemed to have stopped. This morning my phone froze again while it was charging overnight. This has become a critical issue not only for the phone, but for me since I use the alarm to wake myself up for work.
The apps I have downloaded include:
-Advanced Task Manager
-Real Racing 3
-Air Navy Fighters
-Flashlight
-Viber
-Whatsapp
-Speed Test
-Skype
-My data manager
-MTR Mobile
-Facebook
-Personal Notes (not sure how this got onto my phone).
The phone is not rooted and using the standard operating system.
Has anyone had any similar issues? Is it perhaps one of the apps which could be causing this? I'm going to start trial and error process of deleting 1 app every 2 days to see if the issue continues. It would be great though if anyone knows the answer straight up, so that I dont have to spend a long time trialing the different apps. Perhaps it could be an issue with the phone itself and not the apps I've installed.
- This also leads me to my next question, is it bad for my phone or battery to be plugged in and charging all night long?
Thanks everyone
Rob
-Advanced Task Manager ???
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Come ooon Bob why you need a Task Manager?
You have already pre-installed stock one.
I recommending to factory reset all phone with full wipe on internal memory. (copy important files before)
Don't use Advanced Task Manager. It was many debate why this apps is bad
Wow thanks for the prompt reply.
I didn't realise my phone has a pre-install task manager. How do I access this?
Does that mean that theres absolutely no point in having a "non standard task manager" installed on the phone?
I have done a factory reset before, but that didn't change anything. So you are pretty sure its the task manager that's giving me trouble?
Robert_89 said:
Wow thanks for the prompt reply.
I didn't realise my phone has a pre-install task manager. How do I access this?
Does that mean that theres absolutely no point in having a "non standard task manager" installed on the phone?
I have done a factory reset before, but that didn't change anything. So you are pretty sure its the task manager that's giving me trouble?
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Hi Robert. If you interesting about it, I recommending to you read this one of the many threads
Proponents of task killers notice that Android is using a lot of RAM – in fact, Android stores a lot of apps in its memory, filling up the RAM! However, that isn’t a bad thing. Apps stored in your RAM can be quickly switched to without Android having to load them from its slower storage.
In summary, you shouldn’t use a task killer – if you have a misbehaving app wasting resources in the background, you should identify it and uninstall it. But don’t just remove apps from your phone or tablet’s RAM – that doesn’t help speed anything up.
Empty RAM is useless. Full RAM is RAM that is being put to good use for caching apps. If Android needs more memory, it will force-quit an app that you haven’t used in a while – this all happens automatically, without installing any task killers.
Task killers think they know better than Android. They run in the background, automatically quitting apps and removing them from Android’s memory. They may also allow you to force-quit apps on your own, but you shouldn’t have to do this.
Task killers aren’t just useless – they can reduce performance. If a task killer removes an app from your RAM and you open that app again, the app will be slower to load as Android is forced to load it from your device’s storage. This will also use more battery power than if you just left the app in your RAM in the first place. Some apps will automatically restart after the task killer quits them, using more CPU and battery resources.
Whether RAM is empty or full, it takes the same amount of battery power – decreasing the amount of apps stored in RAM won’t improve your battery power or offer more CPU cycles.
hope u understood.
Also samsung included a stock task manager.
Press and hold home button.
Then check my attached picture
avetny said:
Hi Robert. If you interesting about it, I recommending to you read this one of the many threads
Proponents of task killers notice that Android is using a lot of RAM – in fact, Android stores a lot of apps in its memory, filling up the RAM! However, that isn’t a bad thing. Apps stored in your RAM can be quickly switched to without Android having to load them from its slower storage.
In summary, you shouldn’t use a task killer – if you have a misbehaving app wasting resources in the background, you should identify it and uninstall it. But don’t just remove apps from your phone or tablet’s RAM – that doesn’t help speed anything up.
Empty RAM is useless. Full RAM is RAM that is being put to good use for caching apps. If Android needs more memory, it will force-quit an app that you haven’t used in a while – this all happens automatically, without installing any task killers.
Task killers think they know better than Android. They run in the background, automatically quitting apps and removing them from Android’s memory. They may also allow you to force-quit apps on your own, but you shouldn’t have to do this.
Task killers aren’t just useless – they can reduce performance. If a task killer removes an app from your RAM and you open that app again, the app will be slower to load as Android is forced to load it from your device’s storage. This will also use more battery power than if you just left the app in your RAM in the first place. Some apps will automatically restart after the task killer quits them, using more CPU and battery resources.
Whether RAM is empty or full, it takes the same amount of battery power – decreasing the amount of apps stored in RAM won’t improve your battery power or offer more CPU cycles.
hope u understood.
Also samsung included a stock task manager.
Press and hold home button.
Then check my attached picture
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Thanks Avetny, there's alot of great information there.
Both your comments and the link make complete sense. I actually never realised that Android doesn't perform in the same manner that windows does.
I've deleted the task manager after your first comment. My device is actually running faster and the battery is more efficient too.:good:
I really appreciate you going to the effort of sending the links/information/photo.
I'll report back if this has fixed my freezing problem.
Thanks again :highfive:
Rob
You are welcome Rob. Stay tuned
Best Regards
-Avetis
Fortunately the phone has not frozen since, both the battery efficiency and response time has significantly improved
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Hi to all,
I have Samsung I9505 Galaxy S4 AFTER installing app Viber I have get for 1 time this popup notification.
I dont have on device installed Task Killer .
Its on croatian but I will translate.
"You have previously manually close Viber"
"Leave Viber ON at the background and you will get infos about calls, This will not affect to battery life and memory"
Thanks in advace
smashs said:
Hi to all,
I have Samsung I9505 Galaxy S4 AFTER installing app Viber I have get for 1 time this popup notification.
I dont have on device installed Task Killer .
Its on croatian but I will translate.
"You have previously manually close Viber"
"Leave Viber ON at the background and you will get infos about calls, This will not affect to battery life and memory"
Thanks in advace
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Anyone??? Why I get this popup screen??? android version 4.2.2
Did you try to clear memory from the in built Samsung task manager?
ilabs said:
Did you try to clear memory from the in built Samsung task manager?
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I always clear my memory by samsung task manager.
BUT my question is what is that popup notification in 1 post???
Never had that at any previous android...
Cheers
Uninstall all 3rd party task managers.
SilentRazor said:
Uninstall all 3rd party task managers.
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How?
Thank you
smashs said:
I always clear my memory by samsung task manager.
BUT my question is what is that popup notification in 1 post???
Never had that at any previous android...
Cheers
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Well then thats the problem. Clearing memory using the samsung task manager clears viber from the ram too, but it needs to stay active to keep running in the background. Thats what the notification meant, coz you clearing memory is similar to a task manager clearing applications in the background to save ram.
Thing is, android and linux systems work in a different way. They deliberately fill up ram to a point with most used stuff so its more responsive. Task managers and clearing memory is really not helpful to the system and can actually make it worse in handling things smoothly. You don't really need to clear memory unless its really full and your phone lags.
Only time you'd use the task manager on a phone like the s4 is if you deliberately wanted to kill a particular app, perhaps because it was playing up and you wanted to restart it.
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ilabs said:
Well then thats the problem. Clearing memory using the samsung task manager clears viber from the ram too, but it needs to stay active to keep running in the background. Thats what the notification meant, coz you clearing memory is similar to a task manager clearing applications in the background to save ram.
Thing is, android and linux systems work in a different way. They deliberately fill up ram to a point with most used stuff so its more responsive. Task managers and clearing memory is really not helpful to the system and can actually make it worse in handling things smoothly. You don't really need to clear memory unless its really full and your phone lags.
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dr.m0x said:
Only time you'd use the task manager on a phone like the s4 is if you deliberately wanted to kill a particular app, perhaps because it was playing up and you wanted to restart it.
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Have click thanks button you deserve it
I was have SGS3 and he was to slow for me, too much laggy device. I have always use task manager to clear memory.
Now Iam using SGS4 i9505...
One more question and Iam done
WHAT is that popup notification screen I never had that screen on SGS3. I dont have any software installed on device like task killer...
In 1 post I have translate text because it is on Croatian...
Thnx
smashs said:
Have click thanks button you deserve it
I was have SGS3 and he was to slow for me, too much laggy device. I have always use task manager to clear memory.
Now Iam using SGS4 i9505...
One more question and Iam done
WHAT is that popup notification screen I never had that screen on SGS3. I dont have any software installed on device like task killer...
In 1 post I have translate text because it is on Croatian...
Thnx
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Viber automatically shows that notification if it finds its been shut down from the background. This is usually something a task manager or task killer would do, but in your case this same action was done by the samsung task mamager when you cleared the ram. When you clear memory from the samsung task manager, it essentially kills tasks, which is what a task manager/task killer does.
Hi everyone,
Since I got this phone I always had this RAM management issue, my model is the basic with 2GB of ram and I understand that it has it's limitations, but I'm so annoyed right now.
Basically the phone can't keep apps running in background, usually if I have Spotify playing and than start browsing on Chrome, Spotify will forced close.
Even when the phone was fresh out of the box it's ram usage was pretty high, but now that I updated to official Android Oreo all just got worse. Now the apps background services are being killed and I just don't receive notifications from WhatsApp, multitasking doesn't exist here.
The screenshots show the RAM usage.
*A fun fact is my old Zenfone 5 with 2GB of RAM is running Nougat (Lineage OS) and when all apps are closed it has about 1GB of free ram while my new Zenfone 3 never get more than 400MB free and still closing the background apps.
Please somebody help me cause the Asus Zentalk forum couldn't help me, I feel like I'm the only one who's having this problem.
*Sorry for my english.
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Have you done the following :
1. Be very selective of what should be kept in the background through Auto-start manager
2. Customize power saving options, extreme power saving will possibly kill everything
3. Wipe cache partition
4. Keep reasonable free space.
5. Disable or remove bloatware (it's achievable without root now)
6. Use lightweight launcher like Evie or stock launcher
7. Avoid unnecessary additional theming
I could hardly think of anything else at the moment, maybe other can come up with better solution. My ze552kl has 4/64 so I don't really deal with this kind of issue but we all did on our older phones.
sanctitude888 said:
Have you done the following :
1. Be very selective of what should be kept in the background through Auto-start manager
2. Customize power saving options, extreme power saving will possibly kill everything
3. Wipe cache partition
4. Keep reasonable free space.
5. Disable or remove bloatware (it's achievable without root now)
6. Use lightweight launcher like Evie or stock launcher
7. Avoid unnecessary additional theming
I could hardly think of anything else at the moment, maybe other can come up with better solution. My ze552kl has 4/64 so I don't really deal with this kind of issue but we all did on our older phones.
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I already did all of this, I don't have a lot off apps, all the bloatware that I didn't use I have disabled. As I said, even when the phone was new it never had much available ram, but now with Oreo it got worse.
Somebody correct me if I am wrong but ram in android is meant to be used. The more apps being allowed to run in background the more ram will be used to avoid opening the app from scratch. Most of us are so obssessed with free ram. The problem is not with free ram but with laggy experience. You may try one last thing in developer options, apps section and activate destroy activities as soon as user leaves it. Just another idea.
sanctitude888 said:
Somebody correct me if I am wrong but ram in android is meant to be used. The more apps being allowed to run in background the more ram will be used to avoid opening the app from scratch. Most of us are so obssessed with free ram. The problem is not with free ram but with laggy experience. You may try one last thing in developer options, apps section and activate destroy activities as soon as user leaves it. Just another idea.
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The truth that you can see amount mem free but it not free like that. Ex: i have 800mb ram free but actually it have only 150mb, that why it make the device laggy. You can use the app called "Disk info" with have option "Mem preferences" which can see the truth mem free. If you want to solve this easy just unmount zram file, creat swap file (recommend 1GB storage) and yes, root is needed.
sanctitude888 said:
Somebody correct me if I am wrong but ram in android is meant to be used. The more apps being allowed to run in background the more ram will be used to avoid opening the app from scratch. Most of us are so obssessed with free ram. The problem is not with free ram but with laggy experience. You may try one last thing in developer options, apps section and activate destroy activities as soon as user leaves it. Just another idea.
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I'm complaining about my apps crashing because lack of free ram, not because the number of free ram.
Hi guys, is anyone here still using Google maps v6?
It is still working fine, except that on this phone (s10+ Exynos) the app gets killed when running in the background.
At first i believed it to be because i had added the app to the sleep list. I had done that because the system keeps saying the app is eating up battery, even when not running.
So I removed the app from the sleep list, but it keeps getting killed.
How can i make sure that an app never gets killed when running in the background?
Try this go into settings and search optimize battery usage, and then press optimize battery usage listed. You have the options to see what is not optimize battery usage or all click all on top left and see If maps is toggled on. If so toggle off.
latino147 said:
Hi guys, is anyone here still using Google maps v6?
It is still working fine, except that on this phone (s10+ Exynos) the app gets killed when running in the background.
At first i believed it to be because i had added the app to the sleep list. I had done that because the system keeps saying the app is eating up battery, even when not running.
So I removed the app from the sleep list, but it keeps getting killed.
How can i make sure that an app never gets killed when running in the background?
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Make sure the following are set.View attachment 4766267View attachment 4766268
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I have those settings now, and removed the app from the sleeping apps (again). I'm afraid the system will put it back on the 'sleep' list again because it uses a lot of battery in the background (I get regular warnings about that).
Anyone have an idea why this app would be so active while not even used?
latino147 said:
I have those settings now, and removed the app from the sleeping apps (again). I'm afraid the system will put it back on the 'sleep' list again because it uses a lot of battery in the background (I get regular warnings about that).
Anyone have an idea why this app would be so active while not even used?
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What power mode are you running at? Play with a few settings on the attache two screens. View attachment 4766542View attachment 4766543
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I have the same settings as you have.
What happens is that i get warnings about the old apps eating battery. I guess i then put it to sleep without noticing.
I restarted my phone, did NOT start mapsD, but its still doing something on the background.
latino147 said:
I have the same settings as you have.
What happens is that i get warnings about the old apps eating battery. I guess i then put it to sleep without noticing.
I restarted my phone, did NOT start mapsD, but its still doing something on the background.
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It's a modded maps correct? It eats alot battery not even sure it's worth it. What use it ?
fearbasel04 said:
It's a modded maps correct? It eats alot battery not even sure it's worth it. What use it ?
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It's v6 of Google Maps. It had a much simpler interface, and easier to use when looking for alternative routes.
And it doesn't have all that commercial baggage of the new version, which is way slower too btw.
The only thing is, why does it use battery when not even started....
latino147 said:
It's v6 of Google Maps. It had a much simpler interface, and easier to use when looking for alternative routes.
And it doesn't have all that commercial baggage of the new version, which is way slower too btw.
The only thing is, why does it use battery when not even started....
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Being it's an old version I would think you downloaded it from the net and not the play store. Maybe it has hidden spyware etc?
fearbasel04 said:
Being it's an old version I would think you downloaded it from the net and not the play store. Maybe it has hidden spyware etc?
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I actually got it here from XDA, posted by a senior member.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2566159